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Post by Admin on Jan 1, 2018 18:10:32 GMT -5
Isaiah Thomas To Make Season Debut Tuesdayby Mark SuleymanovDavid Richard-USA TODAY Sports Cavaliers’ head coach Tyronn Lue confirmed to reporters, including ESPN’s Dave McMenamin (via Twitter), that point guard Isaiah Thomas will make his season debut tomorrow night (Tues) against the Trail Blazers. Thomas will come off the bench and will play on a minutes restriction, per Lue. Since Thomas will not play in back-to-back games for a while, he will miss Wednesday night’s contest against his former team, the Celtics, in Boston. While the Cavaliers will attempt to ease Thomas into game action, he is ready to play at full speed. www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/01/isaiah-thomas-to-make-season-debut-tuesday.html
There was reason to believe Thomas wouldn't play against the Celtics, especially given that Cleveland will be traveling to Boston for the second night of a back-to-back. As Cleveland.com's Joe Vardon noted, Thomas is also reportedly reluctant to return prior to a marquee matchup -- preferring instead to work his way back up to speed against less meaningful opponents. The Trail Blazers would qualify as a less meaningful opponent. The Celtics, of course, would not.
Thomas and the Cavaliers will be back in Boston on Feb. 11 (which doubles as Paul Pierce's jersey retirement), and he will likely be closer to full health at that point. But assuming Thomas is in attendance on Wednesday, both he and Crowder could still get tribute videos and enormous ovations.
www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2018/01/isaiah_thomas_former_boston_ce_2.html#incart_river_index
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Post by cole on Jan 1, 2018 19:12:47 GMT -5
So do we still doing the recognition ceremony even if he doesn't play?
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Post by elvissurfs on Jan 1, 2018 19:24:24 GMT -5
Soooooo, whatever...hey we all loved and appreciated IT, but no one was going to 'back up the Brinks truck' for him...wish him the best, gonna be hard getting along with LeQueen...maybe he can do it, and he is quite good...fully stoked to have Irving...cannot quite grasp that this is real...figured the NBA would block such a trade...
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Post by puddin on Jan 1, 2018 20:14:18 GMT -5
Soooooo, whatever...hey we all loved and appreciated IT, but no one was going to 'back up the Brinks truck' for him...wish him the best, gonna be hard getting along with LeQueen...maybe he can do it, and he is quite good...fully stoked to have Irving...cannot quite grasp that this is real... figured the NBA would block such a trade...When is the last time the NBA blocked a trade? Anyone? Pud
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Post by elvissurfs on Jan 1, 2018 20:19:36 GMT -5
Chris Paul to Lakers?!
Arod to Sox?...
not unheard of...for Celts fans it is cool, for other teams they cannot believe it was allowed...
as in, all the good players go to LA or Boston?...
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Post by cole on Jan 1, 2018 20:24:26 GMT -5
Chris Paul to Lakers?!
Arod to Sox?...
not unheard of...for Celts fans it is cool, for other teams they cannot believe it was allowed...
as in, all the good players go to LA or Boston?... Cp was the last I can remember.
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Post by puddin on Jan 1, 2018 21:43:33 GMT -5
Last I recall was CP3 from N.O. to Clippers for Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and an unprotected 1st round pick and $$$$ instead of to the Celtics for Rondo and pieces.
The league "owned" the bankrupt Hornets at the time and didn't feel that the Celtic offer of Rondo for CP3 sufficiently benefited the Hornets.
And the league executives were right.
It is rare when the league blocks a trade. This was just such an instance.
Pud
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Post by cole on Jan 1, 2018 21:49:12 GMT -5
Are you implying that the league may also block a Davis trade because he's a pelican?
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Post by puddin on Jan 1, 2018 22:06:27 GMT -5
Are you implying that the league may also block a Davis trade because he's a pelican? No... not at all. The franchise is now financially viable as I understand things and is on its own. Such was not the case in 2011 when the franchise fell into receivership because it could not pay its bills. The league office took over management of franchise assets at the time until things turned solvent. Pud
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Post by elvissurfs on Jan 1, 2018 22:21:49 GMT -5
whoa...some serious conversation...out of my league
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Post by cole on Jan 1, 2018 22:43:56 GMT -5
Are you implying that the league may also block a Davis trade because he's a pelican? No... not at all. The franchise is now financially viable as I understand things and is on its own. Such was not the case in 2011 when the franchise fell into receivership because it could not pay its bills. The league office took over management of franchise assets at the time until things turned solvent. Pud I didn't realize the NBA had transferred ownership or I guess that someone had bought them. The NBA had purchased the team to keep it from folding as I remember. Don't remember news of a sale but Im sure you're right.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 1:09:34 GMT -5
NBA had blocked a trade for CP3 from (then) Hornets to the Lakers. The trade involved CP3 going to the Lakers, Odom going to Hornets and Pau Gasol going to the Rockets. For Gasol, Hornets would have received Scola, Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic and a 1st from NY.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 1:12:36 GMT -5
No... not at all. The franchise is now financially viable as I understand things and is on its own. Such was not the case in 2011 when the franchise fell into receivership because it could not pay its bills. The league office took over management of franchise assets at the time until things turned solvent. Pud I didn't realize the NBA had transferred ownership or I guess that someone had bought them. The NBA had purchased the team to keep it from folding as I remember. Don't remember news of a sale but Im sure you're right. NBA had bought the franchise from George Shinn who had many ongoing troubles at the time. It was later sold to Tom Benson.
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Post by cole on Jan 2, 2018 6:48:16 GMT -5
According to the ESPN thing I saw, they have the c's with a 73% chance of winning
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 2, 2018 9:57:01 GMT -5
Davis likes NO from all accounts Who wouldn't great city friendly folks best food and music in the USA. Downside most corrupt police force in the States.
That and the Pelicans desire to build around him are the driving forces that will keep him out of Boston. As far as the league they would love it Davis in Boston brings more revenue and excitement than in NO.Lots more.
Get ready to lose Brown and or Tatum Smart or Rozier possible also. and at least two first GOOD round picks.
Switch another key two or three players ever year That don't work.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 2, 2018 10:45:23 GMT -5
The Paul trade was not a good one. It only made the lakers better. After the Gasol theft, the league decided to veto the trade. The other owners were the "owners" of the team. Stern only did what a majority of them wanted. So, it was blocked. As for Davis, IF he says he wants out, his value goes down. It would take Horford, Brown and two picks. The Celtics will NOT trade Tatum, IMO, and Smart will be a RFA at year's end. Lakers pick is looking pretty good right now - they are terrible.
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Post by sfbosfan on Jan 2, 2018 17:41:59 GMT -5
The Paul trade was not a good one. It only made the lakers better. After the Gasol theft, the league decided to veto the trade. The other owners were the "owners" of the team. Stern only did what a majority of them wanted. So, it was blocked. As for Davis, IF he says he wants out, his value goes down. It would take Horford, Brown and two picks. The Celtics will NOT trade Tatum, IMO, and Smart will be a RFA at year's end. Lakers pick is looking pretty good right now - they are terrible. I like your comment "after the Gasol theft" !!! I wish we had picked up Gasol( and relatively cheap too) a few years ago and even last year. He’s older and not part of our future and youth movement but he was classified as being “soft” and I disagree and felt he’d be a good role model too for our youngsters but also help rebounding something we’ve lacked past many years. He is probably the main reason we lost in the finals in 2010 vs Lakers. Yup, I know we lost Perkins in Game 6 and in the finals they got the egregious difference of 42 foul shots to our 18 and just 21 in critical Qtr #4 when we had a 13 pt lead end of Qtr #3. We had two 7 footers, Rashid Wallace and Garnett, but they seemed, especially Sheed, more interested in shooting 3s as we were losing the rebound advantage substantially, especially in the 4th Qtr. We had PP & Allen to do that with Rondo driving to the basket. They killed us with reb advantage 53 to 40 (I mean 13 extra chances) and only shot 38% and we did 42% but the extra chances killed us. Gasol schooled KG out rebounding him 18 to 3. What else was painful was that Kobe shoots 6 for 24 or 25% and is MVP. He’d been a goat had they los
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Post by cole on Jan 2, 2018 18:12:35 GMT -5
As I remember he wasn't interested in Boston at that time.
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Post by puddin on Jan 2, 2018 18:40:52 GMT -5
The Paul trade was not a good one. It only made the lakers better. After the Gasol theft, the league decided to veto the trade. The other owners were the "owners" of the team. Stern only did what a majority of them wanted. So, it was blocked. As for Davis, IF he says he wants out, his value goes down. It would take Horford, Brown and two picks. The Celtics will NOT trade Tatum, IMO, and Smart will be a RFA at year's end. Lakers pick is looking pretty good right now - they are terrible. I like your comment "after the Gasol theft" !!! I wish we had picked up Gasol( and relatively cheap too) a few years ago and even last year. He’s older and not part of our future and youth movement but he was classified as being “soft” and I disagree and felt he’d be a good role model too for our youngsters but also help rebounding something we’ve lacked past many years. He is probably the main reason we lost in the finals in 2010 vs Lakers. Yup, I know we lost Perkins in Game 6 and in the finals they got the egregious difference of 42 foul shots to our 18 and just 21 in critical Qtr #4 when we had a 13 pt lead end of Qtr #3. We had two 7 footers, Rashid Wallace and Garnett, but they seemed, especially Sheed, more interested in shooting 3s as we were losing the rebound advantage substantially, especially in the 4th Qtr. We had PP & Allen to do that with Rondo driving to the basket. They killed us with reb advantage 53 to 40 (I mean 13 extra chances) and only shot 38% and we did 42% but the extra chances killed us. Gasol schooled KG out rebounding him 18 to 3. What else was painful was that Kobe shoots 6 for 24 or 25% and is MVP. He’d been a goat had they los Shoot 26% from the charity stripe for the series, Rondo had long since stopped driving to the basket. Pud
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Post by fierce on Jan 2, 2018 19:44:53 GMT -5
IT has 8 points in 6 minutes against the Blazers.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 2, 2018 22:11:10 GMT -5
IT ends with 17 points in 19 mins
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Post by fierce on Jan 2, 2018 22:56:10 GMT -5
IT ends with 17 points in 19 mins If he remains healthy, the Celts are in trouble if they face the Cavs in the playoffs. I think the Celts can beat the Cavs, in the playoffs, this season. But IT will make it very difficult for the Celts.
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Post by sfbosfan on Jan 3, 2018 0:37:40 GMT -5
Unless Haywood comes back, we ain't gonna beat the Cavs because it's even up on points....Irving about 30 and IT and Crowder at least 30.
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Post by cole on Jan 3, 2018 0:41:33 GMT -5
What's going to be fascinating is the defensive analytics for Cleveland after a sample size of games.
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Post by Admin on Jan 3, 2018 1:04:30 GMT -5
What's going to be fascinating is the defensive analytics for Cleveland after a sample size of games. That's why they want to trade Thompson to LAC for Jordan ...
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