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Post by cgreensmashmachine on May 29, 2016 10:30:33 GMT -5
Or, do we have to wait until the 23rd before we're allowed to make a trade?
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Post by Admin on May 29, 2016 10:58:04 GMT -5
Or, do we have to wait until the 23rd before we're allowed to make a trade? Teams can conduct trades after their season ends (regular or playoffs) provided that the players who are being traded are under contract for the following season or draft picks. Free Agents to be cannot be traded. This allows teams to make trades on draft day that affect their final roster for the season...a team that's over the cap could technically get under the cap on draft day via trade.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 19:07:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect anything to happen till draft day that seem to be the norm now.
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Post by Mitch on May 30, 2016 9:48:30 GMT -5
Yeah, seems like too many things could happen between now and June 23rd. Like Jamal Murray, Buddy Hield, and Kris Dunn could all become drag queens. Or LA does choose Bender or Ingram, in which case DA decides to keep the pick.
All I know is that I CAN'T WAIT for Draft Night!!
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 5, 2016 10:56:39 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2016 12:47:41 GMT -5
It was rumored that the Celtics have already offered their Brooklyn Nets' unprotected pick for Okafor at the deadline so why the hold-up? At that time, the Celtics did not know what their pick was worth but now that it's no.3, it can be speculated that they were asking for something more. But it could also be the other way around.I think we should pursue #3 & #16 for either Noel or Okafor and Saric.
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Post by Employee8 on Jun 17, 2016 14:09:21 GMT -5
www.libertyballers.com/2016/6/16/11957196/nba-trade-rumors-jahlil-okafor-top-five-pick-nerlens-noelChad Ford's description of Jahlil Okafor's trade value has to be a little disheartening for Sixers fans to hear. Ford hopped on with 97.5 The Fanatic's Joe DeCamara this afternoon, and for those hoping to get the Celtics No. 3 pick and more for the young center, you might have to reevaluate:
I think that the Sixers and I both believed that the most valuable asset they had other than the No. 1 pick was [Jahlil] Okafor. I think that now, several weeks of gauging that interest around the league has led them to the conclusion that he might not be as valuable as they once thought. I think they went into the process asking the question, 'Would we trade for the No. 3 pick, or the No. 4 pick or the No. 5 pick for a guy like Okafor, would that be good value for us?' And I think they've walked out of that scenario saying, 'We don't think we can actually get that for Okafor right now.'
I think that's less an indictment on Okafor than it is a realization that center has become a little bit like a running back in the NFL... Especially the sort of player Okafor is, which is a back to the basket, below the rim, not particularly athletic, not going to stretch the floor, doesn't necessarily play defense big man. That just doesn't fit the schemes that most NBA coaches are after, including I think the 76ers. So I think there was a major miscalculation on the part of Sam Hinkie when he selected him at [three].
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[Nerlens] Noel might actually end up having more trade value because he does some things in the modern NBA, his ability to defend multiple positions, his shot-blocking, his ability to finish on the break, that make him perhaps a more attractive option right now. They're exploring that as well, but it's not easy to necessarily move either of those guys right now and get the sort of value that Philadelphia wants, which I think what they want is a top five or six pick in this draft, or a young point guard, or a young two guard that can really shoot the basketball to pair on the floor with Ben Simmons.
Regardless of where you stand in the Okafor vs. Noel battle royale, this isn't exactly encouraging news. Everything should be taken with a grain of salt this close to draft time -- and rival executives with an interest in scooping up one of the Sixers bigs could have Ford's ear -- but if true, this will likely kill any dreams of trading back into this draft. I would probably make a deal for the third pick on its own because of how detrimental I think the logjam in the paint is, but not being able to get even a top-five pick ends the conversation before it begins for me.
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Post by kyceltic on Jun 17, 2016 16:08:07 GMT -5
I would offer Smart and pick 23 for Okafor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 16:10:19 GMT -5
No doubt most teams around the league would take Noel over Okafor. Okafor can really score in the paint and on a balanced team like the Celtics could put up 20+ most nights. I'm for all keeping the pick but would take Noel in a heartbeat and would consider Okafor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 16:11:04 GMT -5
I would offer Smart and pick 23 for Okafor. I really like that.
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Post by billge on Jun 17, 2016 16:32:21 GMT -5
Me too
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Post by cgreensmashmachine on Jun 18, 2016 9:31:48 GMT -5
Sounds pretty good, especially after you've read some of the 'hypothetical' trade ideas for Jimmy Butler (miscellaneous web reports)
Most of them start out, like- 3, 16, 23, next year's BKN pick, Bradley and Crowder.
Then they realize how lop-sided this is, and they edit the proposal (they swap Crowder for a pair of 2016 second round picks)
At any rate, it's awful.
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 18, 2016 11:01:57 GMT -5
I would offer Smart and pick 23 for Okafor. i would even offer smart and #16 for okafor...and we could use #3 for dunn or make another trade.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 18, 2016 11:19:39 GMT -5
No on trading Smart. If they want Smart, then I want Saric. The whole reason for them wanting #3 is to take Murray or Dunn. Why would they want Smart? OLY and #3 for Noel. OR, OLY, #3 and Young for Okafor and Saric. That's it - otherwise no thanks!
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 18, 2016 11:39:48 GMT -5
No on trading Smart. If they want Smart, then I want Saric. The whole reason for them wanting #3 is to take Murray or Dunn. Why would they want Smart? OLY and #3 for Noel. OR, OLY, #3 and Young for Okafor and Saric. That's it - otherwise no thanks! yeah...for me i would rather trade bradley than smart..and i like the saric part...would love to get him...and to tell you the truth..i think i'm falling for Dunn...that guy is going to be something...if we do keep the pick and take Dunn one of bradley or smart has to go? i like Brown also.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 18, 2016 11:45:54 GMT -5
No on trading Smart. If they want Smart, then I want Saric. The whole reason for them wanting #3 is to take Murray or Dunn. Why would they want Smart? OLY and #3 for Noel. OR, OLY, #3 and Young for Okafor and Saric. That's it - otherwise no thanks! yeah...for me i would rather trade bradley than smart..and i like the saric part...would love to get him...and to tell you the truth..i think i'm falling for Dunn...that guy is going to be something...if we do keep the pick and take Dunn one of bradley or smart has to go? i like Brown also. We can trade Bradley in another scenario...........Bradley, Johnson and #16 to CLE for Love! We'd have to keep #3 in that scenario, though, and draft Dunn or Muray!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 12:03:22 GMT -5
No on trading Smart. If they want Smart, then I want Saric. The whole reason for them wanting #3 is to take Murray or Dunn. Why would they want Smart? OLY and #3 for Noel. OR, OLY, #3 and Young for Okafor and Saric. That's it - otherwise no thanks! Smart progressed little last year. I would like Saric to but i'll be surprised if they package him with Okafor. Dunn is a PG and Murray is a two guard for the mostpart. Smart could split his time and him and Dunn would be instant defense in the backcourt. Phila needs at least two more guards and Smart can play the three some to. Perfect fit. They would take him in a heartbeat. Trade him Unless he has a breakout year next year his stock is as high as it will get.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 12:07:14 GMT -5
yeah...for me i would rather trade bradley than smart..and i like the saric part...would love to get him...and to tell you the truth..i think i'm falling for Dunn...that guy is going to be something...if we do keep the pick and take Dunn one of bradley or smart has to go? i like Brown also. We can trade Bradley in another scenario...........Bradley, Johnson and #16 to CLE for Love! We'd have to keep #3 in that scenario, though, and draft Dunn or Muray! That would be ok if Love was making what he's worth about 12 to 15 mil at the most. We could still draft Brown or Bender even if Bradley leaves . We have a real glut at the guard position if Turner comes back.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 18, 2016 12:55:21 GMT -5
We can trade Bradley in another scenario...........Bradley, Johnson and #16 to CLE for Love! We'd have to keep #3 in that scenario, though, and draft Dunn or Muray! That would be ok if Love was making what he's worth about 12 to 15 mil at the most. We could still draft Brown or Bender even if Bradley leaves . We have a real glut at the guard position if Turner comes back. "Worth" is relative. Especially with the increase in the cap coming up. Love may not be one of the top 20 salaries next year.
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Post by croc on Jun 18, 2016 14:14:05 GMT -5
I would offer Smart and pick 23 for Okafor. I really like that. What about for Noel? And it might be #16? We don't know what's going to happen tonight, but most of CLE would trade Love for some of Red's leftover cigar butts.
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 18, 2016 14:20:27 GMT -5
What about for Noel? And it might be #16? We don't know what's going to happen tonight, but most of CLE would trade Love for some of Red's leftover cigar butts. i just think CLE will want players for love not draft picks...so you gotta think bradley and crowder or some kind of a mix in players.
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 18, 2016 14:22:26 GMT -5
What about for Noel? And it might be #16? We don't know what's going to happen tonight, but most of CLE would trade Love for some of Red's leftover cigar butts. i just think CLE will want players for love not draft picks...so you gotta think bradley and crowder or some kind of a mix in players...amir johnson for the money to work future picks?
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Post by croc on Jun 18, 2016 14:36:53 GMT -5
I don't think Love is much of a fit right now. They need a rim defender and overall defensive presence, more than someone who can rebound, shoot in the paint, and maybe when he feels like it play D
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 18, 2016 14:42:57 GMT -5
I don't think Love is much of a fit right now. They need a rim defender and overall defensive presence, more than someone who can rebound, shoot in the paint, and maybe when he feels like it play D that's why for some crazy reason..dwight howard will be ainge's sign? i still think we trade for butler sign howard and ryan anderson and we still sign j.dudley...it's crazy but that would do damage.
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 18, 2016 14:51:29 GMT -5
or you can even put howard with love..and sign shooters...dudley and anderson?
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