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Post by kdp59 on Jun 5, 2021 11:13:25 GMT -5
I doubt there are more than 3 new players in green when next season starts to be honest. Of course none of us have any idea about what type of POBO Stevens will be, sadly I doubt he will be making earth shaking moves in his first year. I can see him running it back with basically the same team and a new HC ( and maybe better player health). Ainge used all his chips/draft picks/assets before he left for Utah in retirement. Leaving Stevens with only his own draft picks, a roster at the tax line now, some worthless TPE's and a roster full of less desirable trade assets to other teams. Good Luck with that! That pretty much sums it up quite well...we are screwed...
At least the Lakers are out of the playoffs already...and looking hobbled by two aging/injured guys who get half of the team's salary...
not screwed , I would say maybe treading water for a year. better health and new coach may push us into the 4 seed next season. after that year Stevens will have gotten his feet wet and Kemba's deal will be easy EASIER to move in the last year.
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2021 12:05:55 GMT -5
what a possible "run it back" roster could look like next season: let Founrier go and use the Taxpaying MLE ($6m) to sign a player like D. McDermott, T. Snell or M. Harkless. not much less player quality there but a lot less salary. draft Josh Giddey or Jared Butler at #16. re-sign Kornet or Tacko for the final roster spot at vet minimum. Team would end up around $146M in total salary's and be about $10M over the tax line with basically the same team as this year. Roster: Rob W.- 3.6M Thompson- 9.7M Kornet/tacko- 2.5M Tatum- 28.1M (maybe more) Grant W. - 2.6M Parker- 2.3M Brown- 26.7M McDermott/Snell- 6.0M Nesmith- 3.6M Smart- 14.3M Langford-3.8M Edwards- 1.8M Kemba- 36.0M Pritchard- 2.1M Butler/Giddey- 2.6M That's what a run it back type roster would likely look like, IMO.
What's the point?
We just wasted one year and you propose wasting another as the clock is ticking on JT & JB?
I'd be surprised if Stevens doesn't make the changes that Ainge was afraid to make.
Sure it won't be anything as aggressive as my wish list but standing pat means watching more potential additions end up on the competition's rosters ... it's time to pursue potential star players like Markkanen, White & Bagley when they are available cuz when you're ready there may not be any studs for the taking.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 5, 2021 14:18:36 GMT -5
what a possible "run it back" roster could look like next season: let Founrier go and use the Taxpaying MLE ($6m) to sign a player like D. McDermott, T. Snell or M. Harkless. not much less player quality there but a lot less salary. draft Josh Giddey or Jared Butler at #16. re-sign Kornet or Tacko for the final roster spot at vet minimum. Team would end up around $146M in total salary's and be about $10M over the tax line with basically the same team as this year. Roster: Rob W.- 3.6M Thompson- 9.7M Kornet/tacko- 2.5M Tatum- 28.1M (maybe more) Grant W. - 2.6M Parker- 2.3M Brown- 26.7M McDermott/Snell- 6.0M Nesmith- 3.6M Smart- 14.3M Langford-3.8M Edwards- 1.8M Kemba- 36.0M Pritchard- 2.1M Butler/Giddey- 2.6M That's what a run it back type roster would likely look like, IMO.
What's the point?
We just wasted one year and you propose wasting another as the clock is ticking on JT & JB?
I'd be surprised if Stevens doesn't make the changes that Ainge was afraid to make.
Sure it won't be anything as aggressive as my wish list but standing pat means watching more potential additions end up on the competition's rosters ... it's time to pursue potential star players like Markkanen, White & Bagley when they are available cuz when you're ready there may not be any studs for the taking.
to clarify i was not saying it's something i prefer, just what something like that might look like is all. Maybe Stevens is a gunslinger and will be a wheeler/dealer right out of the gate or he could need some time to get his 'feet wet' in his new position and be a bit more cautious than we'd all like. time will tell and his pick of gm and HC may give us an early clue for sure. there are also some Celtic fans who feel this team with some better health luck could easily be a top 4 team in the east. Again not saying i agree or disagree with that, just that there is that thought around. I should also say that i think it's very hard to find a way forward next season to build a team thatis better than a top 4 team in the east. unless Kemba somehow becomes the "best version of himself" we are likely going to need a couple years before we can compete for a title, at least IMO.
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2021 15:55:05 GMT -5
your roster (with Salary's): Rob W, - 3.6M Turner- 18.0M Bagley- 11.3M Markkanen- 20.0M Gant W. - 2.6M Parker- 2.3M tatum- 28.1M Nesmith- 3.6M brown- 26.7M Langford- 3.8M Brogdon- 21.7M White- 5.8M Edwards- 1.8M two open roster spots your team salary stands at $149.2M
Let's see:
PG: Brogdon, White, Vet MLE SG: Brown, Langford, Edwards
SF: Tatum, Nesmith, GWill
PF: Markkanen, Bagley, Parker C: Turner, RWill, Tacko/Kornet?
I try to upgrade SF with a trade of GWill (if doable) otherwise I keep him for a backup 3/4/5. Edwards will do as a 3rd string SG and he's guaranteed so no since waiving him now.
Big difference from this fantasy team to our current team is "SIZE." We are big and have shooters at every position.
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Post by kivancb on Jun 6, 2021 16:00:04 GMT -5
Tatum should analyze Doncic's game, who is already looking as good as Larry Bird at his best, but only at 22. He has an unstoppable three pointer (though not as good as Tatum's), he attacks the rim a la Harden (and gets the foul calls as well), he's a tremendous passer and he rebounds relentlessly. He is the COMPLETE PACKAGE. Tatum has all the tools to be as good as Doncic; he's longer, more athletic, a better shooter and a much better defender. But Doncic's already a tier or two above him - He should analyze him, that's the way to greatness. Believe me, Tatum could be better than Doncic, which means he could be a top 10 player all-time. He needs to read the game as good as Doncic's been doing.
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2021 16:05:53 GMT -5
I was just thinking the same thing as I watch Doncic ... Him & Bird aren't/weren't the most athletic and somewhat slow afoot but both were two steps ahead of their defender/opponent and get the shot that they want. It's uncanny how the two compare ...
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2021 16:16:57 GMT -5
This Blog Writer is on the right track but he loses it when he suggests getting White, Aminu & Satoransky back for Kemba.
Why? Satoransky is one of their few SG's ... I doubt they bring back Valentine (UFA) as he had a bad year and never developed into the player they thought they were drafting 5 yrs ago ... why? Like Kemba, he has a LT knee problem and it's starting to catch up to him now.
Secondly, The Bulls don't want to pay or play Markkanen and he lost his starter job during the season. So whynot swap Fournier for Maarkanen? Both teams get what they need ... us a stretch 4/5 and them a vet scorer to stretch the floor for LaVine & Vuc.
The Bulls need a backup for Vucevic and Thompson is a good for the next year and we'll throw in a pick of course to get it done.
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2021 16:36:01 GMT -5
This guy too is on the right track but doesn't go far enough ... Smart isn't enough for Lauri. Swap Fournier, Thompson & Pritchard for White & Markkanen and now we're talking ... both teams win!
Vincent Carchietta-USA TODAY Sports
Lauri Markkanen
The floor-stretching leap was made by former #7 pick Lauri Markkanen in his fourth season, as he finally reached 40% shooting from beyond the arc in almost six attempts per game. Even still, he collected the fewest points and rebounds per game totals of his career in a season that saw Chicago fail to even qualify for the NBA Play-in Tournament.
Given their hiring of proven successful head coach Billy Donovan and midseason acquisition for Vucevic–not to mention the fact that 27 ppg Zach Lavine is their headliner–the Bulls should have done more this past season. That they lost more than they one after posturing to make the postseason is damning and demoting Markkanen ahead of his restricted free agency likely rubbed the Finnish power forward the wrong way.
It is far from a stretch to think that Markkanen could look for greener pastures in his free agency foray, and negotiating a sign-and-trade involving Smart could be an option for Brad Stevens if he can free up the necessary cap space.
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Post by sfbosfan on Jun 6, 2021 17:33:19 GMT -5
I do not think we would have won the championship even with Tatum and then Brown healthy & Kemba playing well. Very competitive yes but I feel that if we had one more player we’d be champs. Maybe Durant, Davis(not hurt), Leonard, Giannis or Embid but whom I would prefer would have been Luka Doncic. Just dreaming I guess.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 6, 2021 18:01:30 GMT -5
your roster (with Salary's): Rob W, - 3.6M Turner- 18.0M Bagley- 11.3M Markkanen- 20.0M Gant W. - 2.6M Parker- 2.3M tatum- 28.1M Nesmith- 3.6M brown- 26.7M Langford- 3.8M Brogdon- 21.7M White- 5.8M Edwards- 1.8M two open roster spots your team salary stands at $149.2M
Let's see:
PG: Brogdon, White, Vet MLE SG: Brown, Langford, Edwards
SF: Tatum, Nesmith, GWill
PF: Markkanen, Bagley, Parker C: Turner, RWill, Tacko/Kornet?
I try to upgrade SF with a trade of GWill (if doable) otherwise I keep him for a backup 3/4/5. Edwards will do as a 3rd string SG and he's guaranteed so no since waiving him now.
Big difference from this fantasy team to our current team is "SIZE." We are big and have shooters at every position.
Looks good adding a MLE and a vet minimum deal would put the team at around $157M more or less in salary , so as long as the owners are up for it and Stevens can make the deals you have the team. I would make one small change, since I see grant as a PF /small ball center only. release Parker and his non-guaranteed salary and sign a small forward for vet minimum (or bring in Mader or whoever we pick in the second round instead). and you're right we'd have real height for the first time a while on the team.
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2021 14:20:19 GMT -5
Celtics trade options for Gordon Hayward exception: 13 players Boston could target this offseason![](https://www.masslive.com/resizer/khV9P-52F5G6G1mdzKOxlNXNzik=/1280x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/DLCRWY53CVB77DX57RBKLT3MFQ.JPG) (John Kuntz, cleveland.com) By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.com
The Celtics have limited options to improve their team on the free-agent market, due to NBA salary cap rules. Modest spending ( $5.9 million taxpayer midlevel exception) and veteran’s minimum contracts will be the team’s made tools to build from the open market. Those limitations mean a trade remains a likely bet to help improve the team’s core. One tool that will be at Boston’s disposal on that front is the leftover chunk of the Gordon Hayward trade exception remaining ($11 million) that remains after the team used $17 million of it to acquire Evan Fournier for two second-round picks from the Orlando Magic back in March. We already covered last week at MassLive why the Celtics are highly unlikely to be able to use the trade exception in a sign-and-trade deal for a free agent due to CBA rules. However, there is still a long list of players around the league that make under $11 million and could be made available by their teams heading into this offseason. What names fill the criteria and could fit in Boston moving forward? Let’s look at 13 potential candidates and a few specific ones to keep an eye on. BigsLarry Nance Jr. ($10.6 million, 2 years left on deal): A long-rumored target of the Celtics, Nance Jr. suffered through an injury-plagued 2020-21 campaign that limited him to 35 games for the Cavs. His expanded 3-point range (36 percent) and defensive versatility make him an appealing target for any team, making him an ideal stretch big option for Boston. The cost will be steep from Cleveland’s demands (at least a first-round pick and a young player with promise) but it could be worth the cost for the 28-year-old.
Admin Critique: Another "undersized big" like TT
Marvin Bagley III ($11.3 million, final year of deal): A potential buy-low option for Boston heading into a contract year for the power forward. Bagley has played only 118 games during his first three NBA seasons and his defense has been horrific at times despite his offensive upside. He’s only 22 and probably could be had for pennies on the dollar but it’s hard to envision Brad Stevens bringing in a guy who can’t be trusted defensively at center.
Admin Critique: He'd be the PF and a far better fit when Parker is released!
Maxi Kleber ($8.7 million, two years left on deal): A potential Daniel Theis replacement? He stretches the floor better than the former Celtics center and is very mobile defensively for a 6-foot-10 big. However, he’s been a starter in Dallas for the past two years so it’s hard to envision them moving on from his team-friendly deal unless the Celtics overpay for him. Boston simply doesn’t have the extra assets to afford doing that at this point.
Admin Critique: As Fierce would say, the Mavs aren't in business to help the C's and again, "UNDERSIZED!"
Mason Plumlee ($8.1 million, two years left on deal): A manageable contract for a center who is a terrific passer for his position. However, his lack of shooting range makes this pairing a no-go for Boston. The Celtics have a couple of centers who already can’t shoot from the perimeter so bringing in a third wouldn’t make much sense unless Tristan Thompson is sent packing.
Admin Critique: TT will be traded but we want Nerlens Noel not Plumblee!
Dwight Powell ($11 million, two years left on deal): The athletic 6-foot-10 big man has carved out a nice career for himself in Dallas after being a throw-in to the Rajon Rondo trade. He’s a bit overpaid for his production though and his poor outside shooting makes him a questionable fit in Boston’s frontcourt, assuming Boston’s new coach doesn’t want to play double bigs much. The Celtics can’t afford to pay another non-shooter $11 million that has limited upside.
Admin Critique: You eliminated him on your own so no need for me to reply but again, poor fit & too small for C.
Dario Saric ($9 million, two years left on deal): The 26-year-old has been a useful bench player for the Suns on their way to the Conference Finals so it’s highly possible he’s not even made available via trade. However, he’d be a nice fit to provide some shooting and offensive touch in Boston’s frontcourt.
Admin Critique: So now you want a PF but Bagley won't do?
WingsKyle Anderson ($9.9 million, one year left on deal): The Celtics have had their eye on Anderson for quite some time according to league sources. With Memphis having plenty of younger talent on the wing, they may opt to simply add some more assets for the 27-year-old wing entering a contract year. Anderson’s improvement as a 3-point shooter last season, along with his passing, would provide the skillset that makes him a nice fit for Boston.
Admin Critique: I'm open to this idea but I think we have more important holes to fill at PG, PF & C
Derrick Jones Jr. ($9.7 million, player option likely to be picked up): He got a big deal for the MLE in Portland but largely underwhelmed in the bigger role, ultimately racking up DNP-CDs for most of the team’s playoff series loss against the Nuggets over six games. Jones Jr. isn’t going to provide much offensive upside or shooting but his length and athleticism still could make him appealing at 23-years-old. Assuming he picks up his option, the Blazers probably wouldn’t ask much for him.
Admin Critique: Only if we need a trade partner to take TT with Noel coming in at backup C.
Cedi Osman ($8 million, three years left on deal with final year non-guaranteed): The 25-year-old posted career-worst shooting numbers last year in Cleveland (38 percent from the field, 30 percent from 3). That combined with some lackluster defense has turned what looked to be a bargain deal into one the Cavs could have trouble moving. The Celtics could take him for next to nothing but Osman hasn’t shown that he’s worth any kind of investment at this point at age 25.
Admin Critique: Cavs have been waiting forever for a breakout ... why should we?
Justin Holiday ($6 million, two years left on deal): The journeyman has turned himself into an elite 3-point shooter in Indiana over his past two seasons, knocking down 38 percent of his attempts while increasing his volume to 5.4 attempts per game. The Pacers already have 12 players under contract for next year so they could be looking to move some wings for value. Holiday could be a cheaper backup plan for Boston if Fournier ends up getting a big-money deal elsewhere.
Admin Critique: Not sure the Pacers would deal with us anymore but Brad may have an inside track ... could be a decent vet addition but I prefer someone to slide into the 3rd shooter spot with the J's for the next 5 yrs.
Kevin Knox ($5.8 million, one year left on deal): Another buy-low option after failing to break his way into Tom Thibodeau’s rotation in New York last season. At age 21, there is untapped potential here but the case can be made that the Celtics already have too much youth on their roster already.
Admin Critique: Another developmental player on the roster? No!
GuardsJeremy Lamb ($10.5 million, one year left on deal): Same situation as Justin Holiday, except with a more expensive deal. Injury history (torn ACL in 2019) is also something to worry about but he did shoot a career-high 40 percent from 3 last year in 36 games after recovering.
Admin Critique: Never liked him much but I'm open to other opinions
Tomas Satoransky ($10 million, one year left on deal): The 6-foot-7 guard would bring some needed size to Boston’s backcourt. He’s also a strong distributor although his high turnover rate is a tough sell. The Bulls could be looking to open up cap space for free agency so he could come cheap as a sixth man or a potential replacement at point guard if Kemba Walker is dealt.
Admin Critique: He's a SG and the Bulls don't have many on their roster unless we S&T Fournier for a swap involving Markkanen & Satoransky for Evan and some other assets.
Ideal targetsBased on Boston’s needs, the ideal targets on this list would be any of Nance Jr., Kleber, Anderson, Saric or Satoransky. All are proven role players in their prime that will provide Brad Stevens with meaningful upgrades to the team’s depth as he tries to reshape the bench.
Admin Critique: Ideal but most are unrealistic except maybe Satoransky but Bulls would need a replacement before helping us out.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 15, 2021 17:57:25 GMT -5
because you are likely sending back this years first in the deal, for me the question about any of those players coming in with the TPE exception is...are they worth the first round pick this year?
if your answer is yes, then the move makes sense for you (or more importantly for Stevens).
for me to say YES the player has has at least TWO years under contract as a starting point.
so the only ones that are a yes to me would be
Nance Holiday Lamb Satoransky
of course NONE of them are coming here if Fournier is re-signed, the owners are not going that far into the tax line this coming year, IMO.
also Bagley's salary is $250K over the TPE we have left from the Hayward trade, not sure why the article put him in there as a TPE option to be honest.
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2021 22:02:51 GMT -5
because you are likely sending back this years first in the deal, for me the question about any of those players coming in with the TPE exception is...are they worth the first round pick this year? if your answer is yes, then the move makes sense for you (or more importantly for Stevens). for me to say YES the player has has at least TWO years under contract as a starting point. so the only ones that are a yes to me would be Nance Holiday Lamb Satoransky of course NONE of them are coming here if Fournier is re-signed, the owners are not going that far into the tax line this coming year, IMO. also Bagley's salary is $250K over the TPE we have left from the Hayward trade, not sure why the article put him in there as a TPE option to be honest. Not until next season ... if a trade is done this summer his $8.9MM would be the basis used is my understanding. Team alaries and caps are determined on the final day of regular season or payoffs for each respective team. The $11MM salary wouldn't be effective until the new season begins.
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Post by Admin on Jun 16, 2021 7:29:55 GMT -5
Celtics have eyed Kyle Anderson for 'quite some time'
Justin Ford-USA TODAY Sports By Michael Mulford
As the offseason has already begun for Brad Stevens and the Boston Celtics, the search for a new head coach kicks off what will be quite the interesting summer following such a disappointing season. Once Stevens and company settle on his replacement, the focus will shift to improving the roster around All-Star’s Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. One big asset that could help add a rotation player is Gordon Hayward’s trade exception, which has $11M remaining following the trade for Evan Fournier. Among the potential trade options for the Celtics could be Memphis Grizzlies’ Kyle Anderson. On Tuesday, Brian Robb of Mass Live reported that the Celtics have had interest in Anderson for ‘quite some time’. The 27-year-old had a career-year in 2020-21, averaging 12.4 points, 5.7 rebounds, and 3.6 assists while shooting 36% from 3-point range, the second-highest of his career. Anderson has one-year and $9.9M remaining on his deal, which fits seamlessly into Hayward’s trade exception. Having such a young roster with a handful of upcoming extensions including Ja Morant, Jaren Jackson Jr., and a decision to make on Jonas Valanciunas, Anderson could certainly be attainable for the Celtics and help with as veteran presence who’s a versatile, lengthy ball-handler.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 16, 2021 7:54:19 GMT -5
because you are likely sending back this years first in the deal, for me the question about any of those players coming in with the TPE exception is...are they worth the first round pick this year? if your answer is yes, then the move makes sense for you (or more importantly for Stevens). for me to say YES the player has has at least TWO years under contract as a starting point. so the only ones that are a yes to me would be Nance Holiday Lamb Satoransky of course NONE of them are coming here if Fournier is re-signed, the owners are not going that far into the tax line this coming year, IMO. also Bagley's salary is $250K over the TPE we have left from the Hayward trade, not sure why the article put him in there as a TPE option to be honest. Not until next season ... if a trade is done this summer his $8.9MM would be the basis used is my understanding. Team alaries and caps are determined on the final day of regular season or payoffs for each respective team. The $11MM salary wouldn't be effective until the new season begins. trade deadline has passed for this season now. that's the reason they have a deadline.
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Post by Admin on Jun 16, 2021 8:18:54 GMT -5
Not until next season ... if a trade is done this summer his $8.9MM would be the basis used is my understanding. Team alaries and caps are determined on the final day of regular season or payoffs for each respective team. The $11MM salary wouldn't be effective until the new season begins. trade deadline has passed for this season now. that's the reason they have a deadline. You're missing my point ... his new salary doesn't go into effect until next season (10/21') ... any trade this summer would be based on his current salary. The NBA uses season ending team salaries to develop cap holds, team caps etal.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 16, 2021 8:40:13 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure trades are not official until the new year starts, which is typically right after the draft in late June (everything ahs been weird due to covid in the past couple years for sure.
but hey I could be wrong , but I can't think of one trade that happened "officially" between the trade deadline form the previous season and the start of the new NbA season.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2021 10:24:54 GMT -5
Other than last year, trades have happened every year between teams that are out of the playoffs. Those out and the ones bumped can trade from that point on but can't execute the deal till after the moratorium. Fact remains, if you make a trade before the next season, the current salary applies it doesn't not roll over to next season because the deal was executed on the 1st day of the new season. Check the rules and even prior trades made pre-pandemic to confirm if you doubt that.
PS: How did the C's make a trade of Kemba for Horford already? Will the numbers change (next yrs salary for Al and a trade bonus for Kemba) when executed on 8/6? I don't think so!
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2021 10:31:15 GMT -5
3 Tristan Thompson trades to help replace Kemba Walker by Jack Simone
Both Maxi Kleber and Trey Burke help fill positional needs for the C’s. Kleber adds a true stretch-four with defensive versatility, while Burke provides another ball-handling option and solid shooter to the rotation.
The most intriguing part of this deal is that both players the Celtics receive are on the books past next season. Kleber and Burke could potentially be under contract until the 2022-23 season.
Kleber will make $8.75 million next season and $9 million the year after that, though the final season is non-guaranteed. Burke is set to make $3.33 million next year and has a $3.43 million player option for the 2022-23 season.
![](https://celticshomecourt.freeforums.net/attachment/download/3610)
This trade also fixes Boston’s clog at the center position. Robert Williams, Al Horford, and Moses Brown would get all the minutes at the five.
Wright helps shore up the Celtics’ guard position, giving them another versatile option to get rotational minutes. He played amazing last year in both Detroit and Sacramento.
He averaged 10.2 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 4.4 APG, and 1.6 SPG on the season in total. He shot 46.3% from the field and 37.2% from deep.
The one issue with this trade is that Wright would only be on the books for next season.
White averaged 15.4 PPG, 3.0 RPG, and 3.5 APG last season on roughly 41/35/85 shooting splits. His solid defense and scoring highlight an all-around playstyle.
White would lead a backcourt of himself and Smart, but would also provide insurance if the C’s decide to trade Smart. White is on the books for $15-$18 million from next year until the 2024-25 season.
Admin Comment > White fits the Brad bill of a vet that comes from an elite coached team with discipline and able to execute difficult schemes.
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Post by Admin on Jun 21, 2021 14:02:25 GMT -5
Spencer Dinwiddie To Decline Player Option by Arthur Hill
Nets guard Spencer Dinwiddie plans to decline his $12.3MM player option for next season and become a free agent, tweets ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski. His deadline to make an official decision is Monday.
Dinwiddie suffered a partially torn ACL early this season that limited him to three games. The 28-year-old has spent the past five seasons with Brooklyn and posted his best career numbers in 2019/20, averaging 20.6 points, 3.5 rebounds and 6.8 assists per night.
Keeping Dinwiddie may not be in the Nets’ plans because of their huge financial commitment to Kevin Durant, James Harden and Kyrie Irving. Brooklyn also has five other free agents to address this summer, including Bruce Brown, Jeff Green and Blake Griffin, who all played important roles during the postseason.
There should be a strong demand for Dinwiddie on the free agent market, and ESPN’s Bobby Marks suggests his future could depend on what fellow free agents Kyle Lowry and Dennis Schroder decide to do. With the Heat, Bulls and Knicks all needing point guard help, at least one of those teams could make an offer to Dinwiddie.
However, the team is also limited is what it can do to acquire new talent, so it may not want to let Dinwiddie leave without getting something in return. Marks notes that tax-paying teams received a break this season because of the decline in BRI (basketball-related income) caused by the pandemic. A similar tax break next season could influence the Nets’ thinking with Dinwiddie.
Another possibility Marks raises is to find a team this summer that’s willing to trade for veteran center DeAndre Jordan without sending any salary back to Brooklyn. That would likely cost the Nets their first-round pick in this year’s draft. Jordan wasn’t used in the postseason and still has two years and nearly $20MM left on his contract.
Great Idea: Thompson & GWill for Dinwiddie will reunite TT with Griffin and then if Brad wants a 1st rd pick (#28?) all it will cost him is a TPE to take back Jordan then he can flip Jordan and we can call him Trader Brad ... LOL
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Post by sfbosfan on Jun 21, 2021 14:44:11 GMT -5
Let’s hope Moses Brown developes as our strength in the post. I’m not that excited Horford returned now 3 yrs older and we didn’t win championship with him before. Like Theis a very good battler but still only 6’9” so can’t complete with Embiid & Giannis. Also, we need another scorer 15-20 pts to assist Tatum & Brown preferably a PF.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 21, 2021 15:12:18 GMT -5
3 Tristan Thompson trades to help replace Kemba Walker by Jack Simone
Both Maxi Kleber and Trey Burke help fill positional needs for the C’s. Kleber adds a true stretch-four with defensive versatility, while Burke provides another ball-handling option and solid shooter to the rotation.
The most intriguing part of this deal is that both players the Celtics receive are on the books past next season. Kleber and Burke could potentially be under contract until the 2022-23 season.
Kleber will make $8.75 million next season and $9 million the year after that, though the final season is non-guaranteed. Burke is set to make $3.33 million next year and has a $3.43 million player option for the 2022-23 season.
![](https://celticshomecourt.freeforums.net/attachment/download/3610)
This trade also fixes Boston’s clog at the center position. Robert Williams, Al Horford, and Moses Brown would get all the minutes at the five.
Wright helps shore up the Celtics’ guard position, giving them another versatile option to get rotational minutes. He played amazing last year in both Detroit and Sacramento.
He averaged 10.2 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 4.4 APG, and 1.6 SPG on the season in total. He shot 46.3% from the field and 37.2% from deep.
The one issue with this trade is that Wright would only be on the books for next season.
White averaged 15.4 PPG, 3.0 RPG, and 3.5 APG last season on roughly 41/35/85 shooting splits. His solid defense and scoring highlight an all-around playstyle.
White would lead a backcourt of himself and Smart, but would also provide insurance if the C’s decide to trade Smart. White is on the books for $15-$18 million from next year until the 2024-25 season.
Admin Comment > White fits the Brad bill of a vet that comes from an elite coached team with discipline and able to execute difficult schemes.
I like the second trade. As far as the third one goes, I don't think we can trade that pick. Can't trade two years in a row.............?
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Post by Admin on Jun 21, 2021 16:39:53 GMT -5
3 Tristan Thompson trades to help replace Kemba Walker by Jack Simone
Both Maxi Kleber and Trey Burke help fill positional needs for the C’s. Kleber adds a true stretch-four with defensive versatility, while Burke provides another ball-handling option and solid shooter to the rotation.
The most intriguing part of this deal is that both players the Celtics receive are on the books past next season. Kleber and Burke could potentially be under contract until the 2022-23 season.
Kleber will make $8.75 million next season and $9 million the year after that, though the final season is non-guaranteed. Burke is set to make $3.33 million next year and has a $3.43 million player option for the 2022-23 season.
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This trade also fixes Boston’s clog at the center position. Robert Williams, Al Horford, and Moses Brown would get all the minutes at the five.
Wright helps shore up the Celtics’ guard position, giving them another versatile option to get rotational minutes. He played amazing last year in both Detroit and Sacramento.
He averaged 10.2 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 4.4 APG, and 1.6 SPG on the season in total. He shot 46.3% from the field and 37.2% from deep.
The one issue with this trade is that Wright would only be on the books for next season.
White averaged 15.4 PPG, 3.0 RPG, and 3.5 APG last season on roughly 41/35/85 shooting splits. His solid defense and scoring highlight an all-around playstyle.
White would lead a backcourt of himself and Smart, but would also provide insurance if the C’s decide to trade Smart. White is on the books for $15-$18 million from next year until the 2024-25 season.
Admin Comment > White fits the Brad bill of a vet that comes from an elite coached team with discipline and able to execute difficult schemes.
I like the second trade. As far as the third one goes, I don't think we can trade that pick. Can't trade two years in a row.............?
Yes, we'd have to make that a 2023 pick or swap 2022 firsts (protected) with a 2nd rd sweetener ...
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Post by croc on Jun 21, 2021 17:34:30 GMT -5
According to John Karalis at BSJ trading now in year 20-21 avoids the 2 year in a row rule. They can deal the 21-22 pick
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 22, 2021 13:01:14 GMT -5
Anyone think Yam Mader is coming over this year?
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