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Post by quagmire on May 14, 2021 14:05:43 GMT -5
On Thursday, Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge told 98.5’s Toucher and Rich that the Celtics will see some changes this summer. “I think that we will definitely be looking to make some changes in the offseason,” Ainge said. “Obviously can’t go into any of those kind of details. But yeah, there will be changes. How significant? I don’t know yet. We’ll see.” – via Boston Globe Top Rumors, Danny Ainge, Free Agency, Trade, Boston Celtics Let’s hope Ainge isn’t just blowing smoke and is serious this time.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 14:15:35 GMT -5
Quaig did try to rape me on Old Rag last year in the woods Don't tell anyone I put up little resistance.. He isn't a pedo.. Much Worse.. He's a Trumper.. View Attachment I have screen shots myself....... nah, you and your Biden hat no showed remember? Someone finally called you out, came to your neighborhood and you hid. Meanwhile I drank cider at blue quartz. ha Won't see me in a Biden hat or any other hat promoting any candiate.. You gave me about 30 minutes notice. My surburban had a bad fuel pump and was being towed to the garage. I had almost 2 hours of sleep and i wasn't riding the dresser the way i felt. If it was 5 years ago i would have walked and taken the old path up the mountain to Swift Runs gap.. I have bad bad days and today is one of them again.. I'll be in Va later this year just noticed the damn Mexicans have used up 10 pages in my passport.. I'll need a replacement. I'll be glad to meet ya later this summer.. I'll even camp out around South Falls the night before.. Bring beer and ice.. No boxing either it will be too hot.. Your aware you live in a Rebel Hot bed and everone knows when an Yankee comes into town in this part of Va? Mountain folk gossip and talk after a few drinks..
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Post by Cabutan on May 14, 2021 14:17:47 GMT -5
On Thursday, Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge told 98.5’s Toucher and Rich that the Celtics will see some changes this summer. “I think that we will definitely be looking to make some changes in the offseason,” Ainge said. “Obviously can’t go into any of those kind of details. But yeah, there will be changes. How significant? I don’t know yet. We’ll see.” – via Boston Globe Top Rumors, Danny Ainge, Free Agency, Trade, Boston Celtics Let’s hope Ainge isn’t just blowing smoke and is serious this time. exactly
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Post by Cabutan on May 14, 2021 14:22:41 GMT -5
After all these years of watching the same gon show, I have to admit rhat I like Pritchard, Fournier and Neismith. Why? Because they can shoot. Watching others trying to shoot has been overly frustrating. Having said that, I hope those three stick around. JB is tenacious and can be molded. I still have my doubts with tatum. He can be a beast but very selfish sometimes plus the fkn step back three is one of those that you hate it unless it goes in. So if danny didnt learn a lesson that we need shooters to win games then we are in trouble.
Another thing. Danny at his 70 years?? Is not going to change. He sets his sight on obscure players and would take them over the sure bets. Thats not gonna change and am tired of having the same hopes he has on these "obscure players". There is rarely a hidden gem.
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Post by solly on May 14, 2021 14:31:48 GMT -5
After all these years of watching the same gon show, I have to admit rhat I like Pritchard, Fournier and Neismith. Why? Because they can shoot. Watching others trying to shoot has been overly frustrating. Having said that, I hope those three stick around. JB is tenacious and can be molded. I still have my doubts with tatum. He can be a beast but very selfish sometimes plus the fkn step back three is one of those that you hate it unless it goes in. So if danny didnt learn a lesson that we need shooters to win games then we are in trouble. Another thing. Danny at his 70 years?? Is not going to change. He sets his sight on obscure players and would take them over the sure bets. Thats not gonna change and am tired of having the same hopes he has on these "obscure players". There is rarely a hidden gem. I don’t disagree, but here’s where we run into problems with blaming Danny as well. You like Pritchard, nesmtih and Fournier. Obviously want to keep JB and JT. I’m sure you like Rwill as we all should like his promise. You’re already at 6 guys that you don’t want moved. You’re at the end of the bench looking for help already. How much can you improve just moving around role guys?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 14:42:01 GMT -5
So Solly..
Tell us your plan..
Show us how Ainge and Stevens can pull us thu..
Your in the spotlight.. You have gave 0 options for improving this team.
Shit or get off the bed...
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Post by solly on May 14, 2021 14:47:14 GMT -5
So Solly.. Tell us your plan.. Show us how Ainge and Stevens can pull us thu.. Your in the spotlight.. You have gave 0 options for improving this team. Shit or get off the bed... I said I trade smart this off-season. Before the year I was one of the only ones that wanted to trade brown for harden. And was mostly laughed at. I’d move Brown if I could get another really good player with a different skill set. I’ve been pretty much consistent though, that this team needs JT as it’s best player, and he needs time to reach his full potential. You don’t win with young players, we can complain all we want but it doesn’t happen. If ainge knows the locker room is poor, I move jaylen if you get a good return. Otherwise you’re stuck with riding it out with those two
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 14:57:01 GMT -5
Move Brown and Smart? Ok..
To where and for who? . Harden was never coming here he don't like Boston that is clear....
No other top players are coming either and staying that is perfectly clear.
I'll help ya.. Both are guards.. Show me two better guards who are available at that price.
Both have team friendly contracts next year....
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Post by puddin on May 14, 2021 14:58:33 GMT -5
So Solly.. Tell us your plan.. Show us how Ainge and Stevens can pull us thu.. Your in the spotlight.. You have gave 0 options for improving this team. Shit or get off the bed... I said I trade smart this off-season. Before the year I was one of the only ones that wanted to trade brown for harden. And was mostly laughed at. I’d move Brown if I could get another really good player with a different skill set. I’ve been pretty much consistent though, that this team needs JT as it’s best player, and he needs time to reach his full potential. You don’t win with young players, we can complain all we want but it doesn’t happen. If ainge knows the locker room is poor, I move jaylen if you get a good return. Otherwise you’re stuck with riding it out with those two Not much of a plan beyond trading Smart.
Beyond that, everything is very iffy as we await the maturation of JT!
And no change in management?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 15:11:37 GMT -5
So Solly.. Tell us your plan.. Show us how Ainge and Stevens can pull us thu.. Your in the spotlight.. You have gave 0 options for improving this team. Shit or get off the bed... I said I trade smart this off-season. Before the year I was one of the only ones that wanted to trade brown for harden. And was mostly laughed at. I’d move Brown if I could get another really good player with a different skill set. I’ve been pretty much consistent though, that this team needs JT as it’s best player, and he needs time to reach his full potential. You don’t win with young players, we can complain all we want but it doesn’t happen. If ainge knows the locker room is poor, I move jaylen if you get a good return. Otherwise you’re stuck with riding it out with those two in the trade, the Nets send center Jarrett Allen and forward Taurean Prince to Cleveland, and guard Caris LeVert and forward Rodions Kurucs, as well as three first round draft picks (2022, 2024 and 2026) and four first round pick swaps (2021, 2023, 2025 and 2027) to Houston. The Rockets also receive guard Dante Exum and a 2022 first round draft pick from Cleveland (via Milwaukee), and Brooklyn acquires a 2024 second round draft pick from the Cavaliers to complete the deal We didn't have four potential lottery picks to trade for Harden. Ainge pissed them away.. Harden wasn't coming here if we gave him the key to the city. I'm still laughing at your saying get Harden..
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Post by solly on May 14, 2021 15:13:48 GMT -5
Move Brown and Smart? Ok.. To where and for who? . Harden was never coming here he don't like Boston that is clear.... No other top players are coming either and staying that is perfectly clear. I'll help ya.. Both are guards.. Show me two better guards who are available at that price. Both have team friendly contracts next year.... They wanted JB and Ainge didn’t want to move him. I think a deal could’ve been done, and they would’ve been better for it. I don’t have specific examples of trades that could happen in 6 months. I gave the harden opinion when he was on the block. Most disagreed. Let’s see what happens and who’s available in the off-season
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Post by Cabutan on May 14, 2021 15:18:24 GMT -5
After all these years of watching the same gon show, I have to admit rhat I like Pritchard, Fournier and Neismith. Why? Because they can shoot. Watching others trying to shoot has been overly frustrating. Having said that, I hope those three stick around. JB is tenacious and can be molded. I still have my doubts with tatum. He can be a beast but very selfish sometimes plus the fkn step back three is one of those that you hate it unless it goes in. So if danny didnt learn a lesson that we need shooters to win games then we are in trouble. Another thing. Danny at his 70 years?? Is not going to change. He sets his sight on obscure players and would take them over the sure bets. Thats not gonna change and am tired of having the same hopes he has on these "obscure players". There is rarely a hidden gem. I don’t disagree, but here’s where we run into problems with blaming Danny as well. You like Pritchard, nesmtih and Fournier. Obviously want to keep JB and JT. I’m sure you like Rwill as we all should like his promise. You’re already at 6 guys that you don’t want moved. You’re at the end of the bench looking for help already. How much can you improve just moving around role guys? believe it or not, i think Robert williams health wont be any better. You can cut any of the guys i did not mention and it wont bother me at this moment. Start over pretty much. We keep stevens and you watch how all the guys we trade roast us. Is a tossup. I am just tired of watching this franchise do very little or nothing at all. I am tired of trading the wrong guys too. Its easier to part ways with stevens and start with a new coach that could reach these guys and newcomers. I want drastic changes. no bandaids. As ainge gets older he becomes of less of a risk taker and that has us fked.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 15:20:31 GMT -5
Move Brown and Smart? Ok.. To where and for who? . Harden was never coming here he don't like Boston that is clear.... No other top players are coming either and staying that is perfectly clear. I'll help ya.. Both are guards.. Show me two better guards who are available at that price. Both have team friendly contracts next year.... They wanted JB and Ainge didn’t want to move him. I think a deal could’ve been done, and they would’ve been better for it. I don’t have specific examples of trades that could happen in 6 months. I gave the harden opinion when he was on the block. Most disagreed. Let’s see what happens and who’s available in the off-season Need some proof they wanted Brown over 4 lottery picks. Show me. So ya have no idea who or what we need? Fine i'm happy with that..
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Post by puddin on May 14, 2021 15:23:52 GMT -5
I said I trade smart this off-season. Before the year I was one of the only ones that wanted to trade brown for harden. And was mostly laughed at. I’d move Brown if I could get another really good player with a different skill set. I’ve been pretty much consistent though, that this team needs JT as it’s best player, and he needs time to reach his full potential. You don’t win with young players, we can complain all we want but it doesn’t happen. If ainge knows the locker room is poor, I move jaylen if you get a good return. Otherwise you’re stuck with riding it out with those two Not much of a plan beyond trading Smart.
Beyond that, everything is very iffy as we await the maturation of JT!
And no change in management?
Pud
We might very well be doing Smart a favor by trading him to a team with less dysfunctional management that here.
My plan is short and simple.
Get rid of GM and coach.
Bring in a solid disciplinarian coach who has the guts to crack the whip, getting everyone on the same page.
Give him a year to sort out the talent presently under contract... and go from there.
We have plenty of talent, some of it is redundant.
What the Cs need is smart, capable, adult supervision, something even the Boy Scouts have but this organization currently lacks.
Pud
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 15:26:41 GMT -5
Solly.
Ya said over and over Tatum needs years.
Harden is 30 now will be 33 or 34 before you say Tatum is ready.
Harden won't be near the player he is in three years he has a lot of miles.
You boxed yourself in to your own BS..
Your no longer arguing with the dimwit kid Fierce.. Pud and I ARE OVER 18
well over
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 15:33:22 GMT -5
I'll finish ya off. Rockets wanted Celtics’ Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, first-round picks for James Harden. clutchpoints.com/It says Smart and Brown and picks .. Picks are plural.
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Post by petey62 on May 14, 2021 15:39:17 GMT -5
The first person we trade is TT. When is the last time the Celtics had a center who had NO GAME whatsoever outside the paint? There is a reason why JT, JB and KW always encounter a defender at the rim......it's because TT can't position himself outside the paint. Every center we've had, that played significant minutes, had the ability to attempt and make a perimeter shot (and 3-point shot). This kept other centers out the paint.
Having TT with Smart starting at the 2 guard makes our starting offense totally inefficient.
Honestly, if we ARE NOT able to move Kemba's contract, I'd try to move Smart and get Lonzo Ball in return. A backcourt of Walker and Ball would be a much more dynamic backcourt than Ball and Smart. And if we ARE able to move Kemba's contract, a backcourt of Ball and Fournier would be even more dangerous.
Langford, Nesmith and Pritchard are fine young players with promise but I'd use any of them in a second as part of a trade package if it meant moving Walker's contract. But I'd try to include GWill first.
RWill is a backup and that is what we should slate him as until he can prove he can consistently stay on the court.
This team also needs VETERANS in the Morris, Baynes, Olynyk mold - veterans who MASTER their roles where you know exactly what you'll get from them. We just don't know what we'll get from a vet like Semi on most nights.
But most important, JT and JB have to take the next step. This season should be a sign to both that they are not nearly where they need to be.
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 14, 2021 15:57:38 GMT -5
Brown, Smart and two FRDP's for KAT
Move Kemba in a separate deal
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Post by Cabutan on May 14, 2021 16:00:14 GMT -5
The first person we trade is TT. When is the last time the Celtics had a center who had NO GAME whatsoever outside the paint? There is a reason why JT, JB and KW always encounter a defender at the rim......it's because TT can't position himself outside the paint. Every center we've had, that played significant minutes, had the ability to attempt and make a perimeter shot (and 3-point shot). This kept other centers out the paint. Having TT with Smart starting at the 2 guard makes our starting offense totally inefficient. Honestly, if we ARE NOT able to move Kemba's contract, I'd try to move Smart and get Lonzo Ball in return. A backcourt of Walker and Ball would be a much more dynamic backcourt than Ball and Smart. And if we ARE able to move Kemba's contract, a backcourt of Ball and Fournier would be even more dangerous. Langford, Nesmith and Pritchard are fine young players with promise but I'd use any of them in a second as part of a trade package if it meant moving Walker's contract. But I'd try to include GWill first. RWill is a backup and that is what we should slate him as until he can prove he can consistently stay on the court. This team also needs VETERANS in the Morris, Baynes, Olynyk mold - veterans who MASTER their roles where you know exactly what you'll get from them. We just don't know what we'll get from a vet like Semi on most nights. But most important, JT and JB have to take the next step. This season should be a sign to both that they are not nearly where they need to be. ill take ball but if we have to keep walker he better play SG. PG is not walkers position. But i hope that we can get rid off him period. He has done less than TT so lets prioritize on dumling his huge salary and his selfish game
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Post by petey62 on May 14, 2021 16:10:03 GMT -5
Cab, obviously Ball would be the PG if we had to pair him with Kemba.
TT's game is not a good fit for what the Celtics do. Go figure, didn't we hear how great a fit he was at the start of the season?
TT has to be in the paint and that impacts EVERYTHING, EVERY PLAYER, and it limits our ability to attack the rim.
Imagine how more effective JT and JB would be if we had a center who could pull his defender out to the 3 point line. The middle would be wide open for them to operate.
We lose that part of our offense with TT in the lineup (as well as RWill). If Kornet (or Wagner) were more efficient 3-point shooters, they could have had a nice role with the Celtics.
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Post by quagmire on May 14, 2021 16:11:40 GMT -5
nah, you and your Biden hat no showed remember? Someone finally called you out, came to your neighborhood and you hid. Meanwhile I drank cider at blue quartz. ha Won't see me in a Biden hat or any other hat promoting any candiate.. You gave me about 30 minutes notice. My surburban had a bad fuel pump and was being towed to the garage. I had almost 2 hours of sleep and i wasn't riding the dresser the way i felt. If it was 5 years ago i would have walked and taken the old path up the mountain to Swift Runs gap.. I have bad bad days and today is one of them again.. I'll be in Va later this year just noticed the damn Mexicans have used up 10 pages in my passport.. I'll need a replacement. I'll be glad to meet ya later this summer.. I'll even camp out around South Falls the night before.. Bring beer and ice.. No boxing either it will be too hot.. Your aware you live in a Rebel Hot bed and everone knows when an Yankee comes into town in this part of Va? Mountain folk gossip and talk after a few drinks.. I will happily meet up with you, we can do the same thing we planned last year. A little smoke, a little drink and solve the worlds problems! If we really get feeling good we may even try to solve the C's problems!
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Post by Cabutan on May 14, 2021 16:22:48 GMT -5
Cab, obviously Ball would be the PG if we had to pair him with Kemba. TT's game is not a good fit for what the Celtics do. Go figure, didn't we hear how great a fit he was at the start of the season? TT has to be in the paint and that impacts EVERYTHING, EVERY PLAYER, and it limits our ability to attack the rim. Imagine how more effective JT and JB would be if we had a center who could pull his defender out to the 3 point line. The middle would be wide open for them to operate. We lose that part of our offense with TT in the lineup (as well as RWill). If Kornet (or Wagner) were more efficient 3-point shooters, they could have had a nice role with the Celtics. hard to find those. We have been here screaming for a solid cwnter for years. I was quite content with baynes. Not the best, not the worst but was effective for us. We have lost key players along the way
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 17:25:30 GMT -5
Brown, Smart and two FRDP's for KAT Move Kemba in a separate deal Umm. If we had better picks maybe. Smart has only one year remaining he would have to be resigned and traded is my guess.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 17:32:25 GMT -5
I don't think ys can win with a 6'0'' shooting guard in this league these days..
Teams will switch till they get a good matchup.
Fully agree TT is a problem said that when we signed him..
Three long years await us.. Offense is half of the game.. Our defense got much worse this year especially after Brown got hurt..
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Post by Admin on May 14, 2021 18:19:35 GMT -5
funny cuz the ball stops with kemba more than smart. Ainge wont admit it though. He paid alot for walker. There is some pride to it. I mean if they had the ability to move Kemba I’m 100% doing it too. Unfortunately his contract is horrendous. Smart is a good role player, unfortunately his ego takes him out of his role and he over evaluates his skill set. He’s simply an effort guy, he’s one in a trillion you can find anywhere. I move him to shake up the locker room as it sounds like he’s got a pretty big voice in it The biggest problem with the core they have right now is their 3 best players have the exact same skill set, I’ve said that going into the year and it still looks to be true. That’s why I would’ve traded JB for harden. Tatum, brown and Kemba are all isolation scorers, they don’t play make, and the ball sticks with all 3. I’m not sure if that can win you a championship at any point, there needs to be some diversity or Tatum and brown need to improve their games. I’d be waiting on that portion as I think it’s too early to give up on either unless you give me a great package back (like harden)
Now you do sound like Fierce. He said Brown & Hayward were redundant and wanted to trade Brown. Then he flip-flopped to Hayward when he was injured again.
Now you're back wanting to move Brown?
Please Brown isn't the problem ... Kemba (too small/shoot 1st PG) and Tatum (matador defense/iso/poor leader/doesn't make others better) are the ones that s/b moved.
I said it long ago, JB will be the better star for the long term ... I'm sticking by that prediction.
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