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Post by quagmire on May 14, 2021 18:22:04 GMT -5
How I would fix the Celtics:
1) Fire Ainge. Overall, despite a few hits, he has been a horrible drafter. The fact that he and Gordon Hayward had to extend their deadline on his player option is a clear indicator AINGE WAS NOT PREPARED for what was anticipated to be his biggest off season issue. 1A) Fire Austin Ainge and most of the scouts. The eye for talent has been suspect at best. Personally i'm happy with last years draft (Nesmith and PP) but prior to that? Time to revamp the scouting department
2) Since Brad Stephens is a "great coach" who would not be unemployed long I would get creative and try to trade him. Send Stephens back home to the Pacers along with fellow native son Romeo Langford and throw in Tristan Thompson, for Myles Turner. This should be an attractive package for the Pacers since Turner "has no trade value around the league."
3) End the Marcus Smart era in Boston. Trade Smart to the Pelicans for Lonzo. Salaries should be close. Smart can be the enforcer the Pels apparently need to protect Zion.
4) Try like heck to dump Smiley. Might Pop actually do a sign and trade, Kemba and a pick for Demar DeRozan? That or he loses him for nothing (which I agree might be better for Pop). Or add Rwill and Gwill and try to get Patty Mills as well.
5) Ensure that GWill, Semi, Carson Edwards and Tremont Waters are no longer on this team.
6) Try to lure FA Chris Paul for 2 seasons (sign and trade for Kemba if DeRozan don't work out)?
7) Bring in a cheap veteran big man who's also an enforcer; Drummond or Boogie Cousins
8) Keep Fournier
That leaves a new GM, a new ass kicker for a coach, Myles Turner, Tatum, Jaylon, Ball and DD or Chris Paul as your starting 5. Fournier, Nesmith, PP, Taco, Drummond or Boogie, and possibly Patty Mills off the bench. Sign 2 more from the D league to fill the bench out.
Not sure if there's enough money to make it happen but that's the new GM's problem!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 18:39:50 GMT -5
How I would fix the Celtics: 1) Fire Ainge. Overall, despite a few hits, he has been a horrible drafter. The fact that he and Gordon Hayward had to extend their deadline on his player option is a clear indicator AINGE WAS NOT PREPARED for what was anticipated to be his biggest off season issue. 1A) Fire Austin Ainge and most of the scouts. The eye for talent has been suspect at best. Personally i'm happy with last years draft (Nesmith and PP) but prior to that? Time to revamp the scouting department 2) Since Brad Stephens is a "great coach" who would not be unemployed long I would get creative and try to trade him. Send Stephens back home to the Pacers along with fellow native son Romeo Langford and throw in Tristan Thompson, for Myles Turner. This should be an attractive package for the Pacers since Turner "has no trade value around the league." 3) End the Marcus Smart era in Boston. Trade Smart to the Pelicans for Lonzo. Salaries should be close. Smart can be the enforcer the Pels apparently need to protect Zion. 4) Try like heck to dump Smiley. Might Pop actually do a sign and trade, Kemba and a pick for Demar DeRozan? That or he loses him for nothing (which I agree might be better for Pop). Or add Rwill and Gwill and try to get Patty Mills as well. 5) Ensure that GWill, Semi, Carson Edwards and Tremont Waters are no longer on this team. 6) Try to lure FA Chris Paul for 2 seasons (sign and trade for Kemba if DeRozan don't work out)? 7) Bring in a cheap veteran big man who's also an enforcer; Drummond or Boogie Cousins 8) Keep Fournier That leaves a new GM, a new ass kicker for a coach, Myles Turner, Tatum, Jaylon, Ball and DD or Chris Paul as your starting 5. Fournier, Nesmith, PP, Taco, Drummond or Boogie, and possibly Patty Mills off the bench. Sign 2 more from the D league to fill the bench out. Not sure if there's enough money to make it happen but that's the new GM's problem! I'll go along with 99.9 % of this. My disagreement is so minor i won't mention it.. Not sure we can resign Fournier that where is there enough money gets a little out of hand.. I like him however..
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 18:58:51 GMT -5
dude saves my posts?? And accuses me of stalking?! LOL You are absolutely the creepy stalker type. Butchise I’m not even gonna deal with you anymore. On ignore you go, creep. Looks like the board saves them under your post history. Funny how your history of commenting on my posts is proven. I never comment on your posts and you only comment on mine, now you’re dealing with me? Put me on ignore dumb dumb and have some thoughts of your own. Here’s your post in January about me “ I have one person on ignore but it has nothing to do with his basketball posts, it has to do with his hate filled venom he constantly spews(ed) about politics. I come here to escape that not be subjected to it. And its not Solly, whose posts I sometimes enjoy reading although I usually disagree with them.” Appreciate your fandom bozo Lol, welcome to the world of Quagmire...swear to gawd that for a couple of years 90% of his posts were trolling me...supposedly he has me on ignore now...I do not debate him anymore...he is fairly prominent on the Pats board and I see he is harsh on you there as well...
But you are wrong that coaches don't matter...LOL...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:02:32 GMT -5
I’m with perk: if they’re changing the roster cause the mix doesn’t work. I’m moving Smart. I’d move him regardless. They need more off the ball shooting and veteran leadership. Which I think is obvious funny cuz the ball stops with kemba more than smart. Ainge wont admit it though. He paid alot for walker. There is some pride to it. Exactly...and not just pride, but attempting to justify his job despite a horrid signing...Smart plays for a third of what Kemba makes...nice that Smart signed this contract before his mother passed away...at least she knew he had succeeded...recall he bought her a house right away...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:12:23 GMT -5
I don’t disagree, but here’s where we run into problems with blaming Danny as well. You like Pritchard, nesmtih and Fournier. Obviously want to keep JB and JT. I’m sure you like Rwill as we all should like his promise. You’re already at 6 guys that you don’t want moved. You’re at the end of the bench looking for help already. How much can you improve just moving around role guys? believe it or not, i think Robert williams health wont be any better. You can cut any of the guys i did not mention and it wont bother me at this moment. Start over pretty much. We keep stevens and you watch how all the guys we trade roast us. Is a tossup. I am just tired of watching this franchise do very little or nothing at all. I am tired of trading the wrong guys too. Its easier to part ways with stevens and start with a new coach that could reach these guys and newcomers. I want drastic changes. no bandaids. As ainge gets older he becomes of less of a risk taker and that has us fked. Well said...Stevens is a nice guy and all, but he aint getting it done...I believe that there is a lot of truth to what Che says - Brad aint played in the NBA...he doesnt have a clue...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:14:45 GMT -5
Not much of a plan beyond trading Smart.
Beyond that, everything is very iffy as we await the maturation of JT!
And no change in management?
Pud
We might very well be doing Smart a favor by trading him to a team with less dysfunctional management that here.
My plan is short and simple.
Get rid of GM and coach.
Bring in a solid disciplinarian coach who has the guts to crack the whip, getting everyone on the same page.
Give him a year to sort out the talent presently under contract... and go from there.
We have plenty of talent, some of it is redundant.
What the Cs need is smart, capable, adult supervision, something even the Boy Scouts have but this organization currently lacks.
Pud
Sounds great!...I am available!...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:20:03 GMT -5
The first person we trade is TT. When is the last time the Celtics had a center who had NO GAME whatsoever outside the paint? There is a reason why JT, JB and KW always encounter a defender at the rim......it's because TT can't position himself outside the paint. Every center we've had, that played significant minutes, had the ability to attempt and make a perimeter shot (and 3-point shot). This kept other centers out the paint. Having TT with Smart starting at the 2 guard makes our starting offense totally inefficient. Honestly, if we ARE NOT able to move Kemba's contract, I'd try to move Smart and get Lonzo Ball in return. A backcourt of Walker and Ball would be a much more dynamic backcourt than Ball and Smart. And if we ARE able to move Kemba's contract, a backcourt of Ball and Fournier would be even more dangerous. Langford, Nesmith and Pritchard are fine young players with promise but I'd use any of them in a second as part of a trade package if it meant moving Walker's contract. But I'd try to include GWill first. RWill is a backup and that is what we should slate him as until he can prove he can consistently stay on the court. This team also needs VETERANS in the Morris, Baynes, Olynyk mold - veterans who MASTER their roles where you know exactly what you'll get from them. We just don't know what we'll get from a vet like Semi on most nights. But most important, JT and JB have to take the next step. This season should be a sign to both that they are not nearly where they need to be. I could post a point by point agreement, but instead I will just say that 'Petey speaks the Truth!'...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:25:09 GMT -5
Cab, obviously Ball would be the PG if we had to pair him with Kemba. TT's game is not a good fit for what the Celtics do. Go figure, didn't we hear how great a fit he was at the start of the season? TT has to be in the paint and that impacts EVERYTHING, EVERY PLAYER, and it limits our ability to attack the rim. Imagine how more effective JT and JB would be if we had a center who could pull his defender out to the 3 point line. The middle would be wide open for them to operate. We lose that part of our offense with TT in the lineup (as well as RWill). If Kornet (or Wagner) were more efficient 3-point shooters, they could have had a nice role with the Celtics. hard to find those. We have been here screaming for a solid cwnter for years. I was quite content with baynes. Not the best, not the worst but was effective for us. We have lost key players along the way Losing Baynes, a total gamer and banger, just so we could give $5M more per year to Kemba pisses me the f**k off!...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:34:05 GMT -5
I don't think ys can win with a 6'0'' shooting guard in this league these days.. Teams will switch till they get a good matchup. Fully agree TT is a problem said that when we signed him.. Three long years await us.. Offense is half of the game.. Our defense got much worse this year especially after Brown got hurt.. Losing Brown's D is a big issue...not to mention he has been playing injured for a while...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:37:17 GMT -5
I mean if they had the ability to move Kemba I’m 100% doing it too. Unfortunately his contract is horrendous. Smart is a good role player, unfortunately his ego takes him out of his role and he over evaluates his skill set. He’s simply an effort guy, he’s one in a trillion you can find anywhere. I move him to shake up the locker room as it sounds like he’s got a pretty big voice in it The biggest problem with the core they have right now is their 3 best players have the exact same skill set, I’ve said that going into the year and it still looks to be true. That’s why I would’ve traded JB for harden. Tatum, brown and Kemba are all isolation scorers, they don’t play make, and the ball sticks with all 3. I’m not sure if that can win you a championship at any point, there needs to be some diversity or Tatum and brown need to improve their games. I’d be waiting on that portion as I think it’s too early to give up on either unless you give me a great package back (like harden)
Now you do sound like Fierce. He said Brown & Hayward were redundant and wanted to trade Brown. Then he flip-flopped to Hayward when he was injured again.
Now you're back wanting to move Brown?
Please Brown isn't the problem ... Kemba (too small/shoot 1st PG) and Tatum (matador defense/iso/poor leader/doesn't make others better) are the ones that s/b moved.
I said it long ago, JB will be the better star for the long term ... I'm sticking by that prediction.
It is a heavy prediction...but I will hang with it with you...Brown will work with us...I believe Tatum is ready to leave to wherever it is 'easier'...just like AD joined up with LeQueen...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:53:19 GMT -5
How I would fix the Celtics: 1) Fire Ainge. Overall, despite a few hits, he has been a horrible drafter. The fact that he and Gordon Hayward had to extend their deadline on his player option is a clear indicator AINGE WAS NOT PREPARED for what was anticipated to be his biggest off season issue. 1A) Fire Austin Ainge and most of the scouts. The eye for talent has been suspect at best. Personally i'm happy with last years draft (Nesmith and PP) but prior to that? Time to revamp the scouting department 2) Since Brad Stephens is a "great coach" who would not be unemployed long I would get creative and try to trade him. Send Stephens back home to the Pacers along with fellow native son Romeo Langford and throw in Tristan Thompson, for Myles Turner. This should be an attractive package for the Pacers since Turner "has no trade value around the league." 3) End the Marcus Smart era in Boston. Trade Smart to the Pelicans for Lonzo. Salaries should be close. Smart can be the enforcer the Pels apparently need to protect Zion. 4) Try like heck to dump Smiley. Might Pop actually do a sign and trade, Kemba and a pick for Demar DeRozan? That or he loses him for nothing (which I agree might be better for Pop). Or add Rwill and Gwill and try to get Patty Mills as well. 5) Ensure that GWill, Semi, Carson Edwards and Tremont Waters are no longer on this team. 6) Try to lure FA Chris Paul for 2 seasons (sign and trade for Kemba if DeRozan don't work out)? 7) Bring in a cheap veteran big man who's also an enforcer; Drummond or Boogie Cousins 8) Keep Fournier That leaves a new GM, a new ass kicker for a coach, Myles Turner, Tatum, Jaylon, Ball and DD or Chris Paul as your starting 5. Fournier, Nesmith, PP, Taco, Drummond or Boogie, and possibly Patty Mills off the bench. Sign 2 more from the D league to fill the bench out. Not sure if there's enough money to make it happen but that's the new GM's problem! Well, Quaig...well thought out, except for I am not sure about getting rid of Smart except for board harmony...and the get rid of 'Smiley' thing cracked me the hell up...
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Post by solly on May 14, 2021 19:56:47 GMT -5
Solly. Ya said over and over Tatum needs years. Harden is 30 now will be 33 or 34 before you say Tatum is ready. Harden won't be near the player he is in three years he has a lot of miles. You boxed yourself in to your own BS.. Your no longer arguing with the dimwit kid Fierce.. Pud and I ARE OVER 18 well over Well my thought process for harden was you have the short window now. Harden as your best player would make you a championship contender with Tatum as the 2nd best player. My argument saying Tatum needs years, is he needs that to lead a team. That is pretty clear, and I’ve been consistent with all my thoughts all year. Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Either have to move one of them now to be an immediate contender or wait it out and find the right role players for the future
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 19:59:40 GMT -5
How I would fix the Celtics: 1) Fire Ainge. Overall, despite a few hits, he has been a horrible drafter. The fact that he and Gordon Hayward had to extend their deadline on his player option is a clear indicator AINGE WAS NOT PREPARED for what was anticipated to be his biggest off season issue. 1A) Fire Austin Ainge and most of the scouts. The eye for talent has been suspect at best. Personally i'm happy with last years draft (Nesmith and PP) but prior to that? Time to revamp the scouting department 2) Since Brad Stephens is a "great coach" who would not be unemployed long I would get creative and try to trade him. Send Stephens back home to the Pacers along with fellow native son Romeo Langford and throw in Tristan Thompson, for Myles Turner. This should be an attractive package for the Pacers since Turner "has no trade value around the league." 3) End the Marcus Smart era in Boston. Trade Smart to the Pelicans for Lonzo. Salaries should be close. Smart can be the enforcer the Pels apparently need to protect Zion. 4) Try like heck to dump Smiley. Might Pop actually do a sign and trade, Kemba and a pick for Demar DeRozan? That or he loses him for nothing (which I agree might be better for Pop). Or add Rwill and Gwill and try to get Patty Mills as well. 5) Ensure that GWill, Semi, Carson Edwards and Tremont Waters are no longer on this team. 6) Try to lure FA Chris Paul for 2 seasons (sign and trade for Kemba if DeRozan don't work out)? 7) Bring in a cheap veteran big man who's also an enforcer; Drummond or Boogie Cousins 8) Keep Fournier That leaves a new GM, a new ass kicker for a coach, Myles Turner, Tatum, Jaylon, Ball and DD or Chris Paul as your starting 5. Fournier, Nesmith, PP, Taco, Drummond or Boogie, and possibly Patty Mills off the bench. Sign 2 more from the D league to fill the bench out. Not sure if there's enough money to make it happen but that's the new GM's problem! I'll go along with 99.9 % of this. My disagreement is so minor i won't mention it.. Not sure we can resign Fournier that where is there enough money gets a little out of hand.. I like him however.. Plenty of money if you get rid of Kemba!!!...except we will have to pay people to take him...crap...
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Post by solly on May 14, 2021 20:00:01 GMT -5
Looks like the board saves them under your post history. Funny how your history of commenting on my posts is proven. I never comment on your posts and you only comment on mine, now you’re dealing with me? Put me on ignore dumb dumb and have some thoughts of your own. Here’s your post in January about me “ I have one person on ignore but it has nothing to do with his basketball posts, it has to do with his hate filled venom he constantly spews(ed) about politics. I come here to escape that not be subjected to it. And its not Solly, whose posts I sometimes enjoy reading although I usually disagree with them.” Appreciate your fandom bozo Lol, welcome to the world of Quagmire...swear to gawd that for a couple of years 90% of his posts were trolling me...supposedly he has me on ignore now...I do not debate him anymore...he is fairly prominent on the Pats board and I see he is harsh on you there as well...
But you are wrong that coaches don't matter...LOL...
We will agree to disagree on the coach. There’s too much history of coaches completely failing when their prominent players are gone. There’s history here with Brad. All depends on the players imo
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Post by solly on May 14, 2021 20:04:05 GMT -5
I mean if they had the ability to move Kemba I’m 100% doing it too. Unfortunately his contract is horrendous. Smart is a good role player, unfortunately his ego takes him out of his role and he over evaluates his skill set. He’s simply an effort guy, he’s one in a trillion you can find anywhere. I move him to shake up the locker room as it sounds like he’s got a pretty big voice in it The biggest problem with the core they have right now is their 3 best players have the exact same skill set, I’ve said that going into the year and it still looks to be true. That’s why I would’ve traded JB for harden. Tatum, brown and Kemba are all isolation scorers, they don’t play make, and the ball sticks with all 3. I’m not sure if that can win you a championship at any point, there needs to be some diversity or Tatum and brown need to improve their games. I’d be waiting on that portion as I think it’s too early to give up on either unless you give me a great package back (like harden)
Now you do sound like Fierce. He said Brown & Hayward were redundant and wanted to trade Brown. Then he flip-flopped to Hayward when he was injured again.
Now you're back wanting to move Brown?
Please Brown isn't the problem ... Kemba (too small/shoot 1st PG) and Tatum (matador defense/iso/poor leader/doesn't make others better) are the ones that s/b moved.
I said it long ago, JB will be the better star for the long term ... I'm sticking by that prediction.
No fierce was down on Hayward saying he was redundant because he wasn’t on the team. In reality I argued against that. Hayward has a different skill set then the current players. I am not saying that brown is the problem, just that I would’ve tried to offer him for harden. I’m on the record saying that pre trade. It’s pretty clear this year that the roster doesn’t mesh, I’ve been a wait out JB/JT into their primes. But I wouldn’t be against trading JB for the right package. The portion about JT/JB and Kemba having the same skill set is something I’ve said all year and why I thought Hayward was important. Me and fierce are nothing alike
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 20:05:11 GMT -5
Solly. Ya said over and over Tatum needs years. Harden is 30 now will be 33 or 34 before you say Tatum is ready. Harden won't be near the player he is in three years he has a lot of miles. You boxed yourself in to your own BS.. Your no longer arguing with the dimwit kid Fierce.. Pud and I ARE OVER 18 well over Well my thought process for harden was you have the short window now. Harden as your best player would make you a championship contender with Tatum as the 2nd best player. My argument saying Tatum needs years, is he needs that to lead a team. That is pretty clear, and I’ve been consistent with all my thoughts all year. Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Either have to move one of them now to be an immediate contender or wait it out and find the right role players for the future Nobody likes dickhead Harden...and to trade Brown would be stupid...better to trade Tatum, because he is leaving anyways with this piece of shit coach and Gm...Brown has enough guts to stick around and give it a try...
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 20:11:14 GMT -5
Solly. Ya said over and over Tatum needs years. Harden is 30 now will be 33 or 34 before you say Tatum is ready. Harden won't be near the player he is in three years he has a lot of miles. You boxed yourself in to your own BS.. Your no longer arguing with the dimwit kid Fierce.. Pud and I ARE OVER 18 well over Well my thought process for harden was you have the short window now. Harden as your best player would make you a championship contender with Tatum as the 2nd best player. My argument saying Tatum needs years, is he needs that to lead a team. That is pretty clear, and I’ve been consistent with all my thoughts all year. Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Either have to move one of them now to be an immediate contender or wait it out and find the right role players for the future Short window? Really short. You do realize Harden has only one more year left after this one.. The last year is a PLAYER OPTION.. He can go anywhere .. So ya expect Tatum to be all grown up next year.? Your math or your logic doesn't add up.. You just now Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Your remark...... Ya logic has been beat up all day and yet you continue.. Good luck here i love landing blows.. The last two would have been fatal if we were on the streets...
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Post by solly on May 14, 2021 20:14:10 GMT -5
Well my thought process for harden was you have the short window now. Harden as your best player would make you a championship contender with Tatum as the 2nd best player. My argument saying Tatum needs years, is he needs that to lead a team. That is pretty clear, and I’ve been consistent with all my thoughts all year. Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Either have to move one of them now to be an immediate contender or wait it out and find the right role players for the future Short window? Really short. You do realize Harden has only one more year left after this one.. The last year is a PLAYER OPTION.. He can go anywhere .. So ya expect Tatum to be all grown up next year.? Your math or your logic doesn't add up.. You just now Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Your remark...... Ya logic has been beat up all day and yet you continue.. Good luck here i love landing blows.. The last two would have been fatal if we were on the streets... No you misunderstand, Tatum reaching his prime, along with brown would be a requirement for them to lead the team. Young players do no lead teams to championships. If harden comes here, he is the best player on the team no doubt. Tatum could play second fiddle to him and they fit each other well play style wise. You haven’t countered much. I realize hardens deal...do you take two years of possibly being atop the East? There’s a chance he could resign as well. This team may never see that with these guys. In the nba you need supreme talent Nothing I’ve said has changed since I joined here. I’d say when I argued with fierce I’ve been correct 100% of the time. You’ve agreed with me in the past, the teams play must be clouding your judgement
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Post by solly on May 14, 2021 20:18:20 GMT -5
Well my thought process for harden was you have the short window now. Harden as your best player would make you a championship contender with Tatum as the 2nd best player. My argument saying Tatum needs years, is he needs that to lead a team. That is pretty clear, and I’ve been consistent with all my thoughts all year. Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Either have to move one of them now to be an immediate contender or wait it out and find the right role players for the future Nobody likes dickhead Harden...and to trade Brown would be stupid...better to trade Tatum, because he is leaving anyways with this piece of shit coach and Gm...Brown has enough guts to stick around and give it a try...
You could argue both are leaving, I said that in my original statements before harden was traded. I’d stick with JT as his offensive ceiling looks to be higher and he’s more polished. You may not like harden but he’s incredibly good and his skill set is much needed
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 20:20:43 GMT -5
Well my thought process for harden was you have the short window now. Harden as your best player would make you a championship contender with Tatum as the 2nd best player. My argument saying Tatum needs years, is he needs that to lead a team. That is pretty clear, and I’ve been consistent with all my thoughts all year. Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Either have to move one of them now to be an immediate contender or wait it out and find the right role players for the future Short window? Really short. You do realize Harden has only one more year left after this one.. The last year is a PLAYER OPTION.. He can go anywhere .. So ya expect Tatum to be all grown up next year.? Your math or your logic doesn't add up.. You just now Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Your remark...... Ya logic has been beat up all day and yet you continue.. Good luck here i love landing blows.. The last two would have been fatal if we were on the streets... It does not have to get so heavy Che...
Meanwhile, California turns a surplus and is looking at giving a refund to citizens...lol, how is that?...because this is California!...a true melting pot of ingenuity...lot's of Teslas and Apples being cranked out here...not to mention our basic and simple and necessary agriculture...yeah, we are the land of fruit and nuts!...
meanwhile, California continues to subsidize all the ghetto red states...we get back 80 cents on the dollar from Feds, while red states soak us for $1.20...
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Post by sfbosfan on May 14, 2021 20:26:05 GMT -5
TT is a waste. He got a ring because the Cavs had a much younger LeBron & Kyrie. We don’t have a twosome like them...please don’t say Tatum & Brown. The last good center we had was Perkins 11 years ago and he was mostly a banger in the post but never a prolific scorer or rebounder. But” yes” losing him in game 6 vs Lakers major reason we lost games 7 in 2010. Playing center in 10 years we had skinny Kelly Olynk(better PF), Horford(better PF), Theis(better PF) and others I can’t think of.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 20:30:11 GMT -5
Short window? Really short. You do realize Harden has only one more year left after this one.. The last year is a PLAYER OPTION.. He can go anywhere .. So ya expect Tatum to be all grown up next year.? Your math or your logic doesn't add up.. You just now Tatum/brown if you stick with them won’t reach their primes for a few more years. Your remark...... Ya logic has been beat up all day and yet you continue.. Good luck here i love landing blows.. The last two would have been fatal if we were on the streets... It does not have to get so heavy Che...
Meanwhile, California turns a surplus and is looking at giving a refund to citizens...lol, how is that?...because this is California!...a true melting pot of inginuity...lot's of Teslas and Apples being cranked out here...not to mention our basic and simple and necessary agriculture...yeah, we are the land of fruit and nuts!...
meanwhile, California continues to subsidize all the ghetto red states...we get back 80 cents on the dollar from Feds, while red states soak us for $1.20...
Che likes the heavyweights Elvis and i'm just 5'9'' 140 .. You keep posting Solly the hole is all but finished........ Just another victim for me I lead his welcome party also.. He's clever but..... Round cheer they call me.......
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 20:44:40 GMT -5
TT is a waste. He got a ring because the Cavs had a much younger LeBron & Kyrie. We don’t have a twosome like them...please don’t say Tatum & Brown. The last good center we had was Perkins 11 years ago and he was mostly a banger in the post but never a prolific scorer or rebounder. But” yes” losing him in game 6 vs Lakers major reason we lost games 7 in 2010. Playing center in 10 years we had skinny Kelly Olynk(better PF), Horford(better PF), Theis(better PF) and others I can’t think of. Well, how about Baynes...a true banger and dirt dog...gave his all at a great value at $5M/year...tough guy from Australia...traded by Ainge to make room for giving dickhead worthless Kemba more money...like $29 M/yr would not have been enough for the worthless prick...
Baynes was not elite, but he was ours!...solid, determined, healthy...he delivered...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 14, 2021 20:53:37 GMT -5
It does not have to get so heavy Che...
Meanwhile, California turns a surplus and is looking at giving a refund to citizens...lol, how is that?...because this is California!...a true melting pot of inginuity...lot's of Teslas and Apples being cranked out here...not to mention our basic and simple and necessary agriculture...yeah, we are the land of fruit and nuts!...
meanwhile, California continues to subsidize all the ghetto red states...we get back 80 cents on the dollar from Feds, while red states soak us for $1.20...
Che likes the heavyweights Elvis and i'm just 5'9'' 140 .. You keep posting Solly the hole is all but finished........ Just another victim for me I lead his welcome party also.. He's clever but..... Round cheer they call me....... 5'8 1/2", and 175...need to trim down...
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Post by sfbosfan on May 14, 2021 20:55:15 GMT -5
TT is a waste. He got a ring because the Cavs had a much younger LeBron & Kyrie. We don’t have a twosome like them...please don’t say Tatum & Brown. The last good center we had was Perkins 11 years ago and he was mostly a banger in the post but never a prolific scorer or rebounder. But” yes” losing him in game 6 vs Lakers major reason we lost games 7 in 2010. Playing center in 10 years we had skinny Kelly Olynk(better PF), Horford(better PF), Theis(better PF) and others I can’t think of. Well, how about Baynes...a true banger and dirt dog...gave his all at a great value at $5M/year...tough guy from Australia...traded by Ainge to make room for giving dickhead worthless Kemba more money...like $29 M/yr would not have been enough for the worthless prick...
Baynes was not elite, but he was ours!...solid, determined, healthy...he delivered...
I forgot about him and “yup” I agree.
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