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Post by fierce on Jan 28, 2021 12:46:52 GMT -5
All that can be described in one word, overcompensating. Theis played poorly in this game because he was facing Aldridge. When Theis came off the bench or was more of a PF in a 2-big lineup, Theis was playing well. That's why he should be starting at power forward and Smart coming off the bench! Agree. I think Brad should try TT, Theis, JT, JB, and Kemba. Smart comes off the bench.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 12:48:59 GMT -5
Yes, I would be happy if we got Barnes. But that is not the point. The point is - we'd better get SOMEONE. Our GM knows more about the league than I do, so I will trust him to get a good player, like I always have. As I've said repeatedly, though, he'd better not let that go unused, or his ass will be grass on this forum in my book
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 28, 2021 12:51:10 GMT -5
Smart should be backing up at SF and playing iso post from the mid range as a scorer.
Teague,Green,Smart,Semi,RWill
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Post by fierce on Jan 28, 2021 12:51:11 GMT -5
TPE favotites: 1. Ball & Redick = 24 mil 2. Aaron Gordon & Nemanja Bjelica = 26 mil 3. Oladipo & Clemons = 23 mil My TPE candidates: 1. Thad Young & Redick = 26.5m 2. Harrison Barnes = 22.2m 3. DeRozan = 27.7m I would even do a Kemba for DeRozan trade. A 3rd team needed to take Kemba.
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Post by fierce on Jan 28, 2021 12:52:40 GMT -5
Yes, I would be happy if we got Barnes. But that is not the point. The point is - we'd better get SOMEONE. Our GM knows more about the league than I do, so I will trust him to get a good player, like I always have. As I've said repeatedly, though, he'd better not let that go unused, or his ass will be grass on this forum in my book Absolutely! I will be joining you and the others who will grass his ass if the TPE go unused this season.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 13:02:54 GMT -5
So, I'm not going to give my list of who I would like to see the TPE used on.........just use it. We all know I like Barnes, Bjelica, Ariza, Young etc. Using a buy out won't do it for me. He has to use the TPE - or else he blew the Turner trade big time.
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Post by solly on Jan 28, 2021 13:08:45 GMT -5
So, I'm not going to give my list of who I would like to see the TPE used on.........just use it. We all know I like Barnes, Bjelica, Ariza, Young etc. Using a buy out won't do it for me. He has to use the TPE - or else he blew the Turner trade big time. Also as far as using the logic "This Celtics team isnt complete since the TPE isnt used" needs to stop. Whos to say this isnt a complete team? I think holding out hope for the TPE to be used is less realistic then not using it
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 28, 2021 13:11:24 GMT -5
What I would like to do?
-Smart,GWill & Edwards to Houston for Oladipo.
Boston- Aaron Gordon for TPE and picks Vooch,Lonzo and Redick
Pels- Kemba,Langford & Theis
Orl- Steven Adams, TPE and picks
6 out 5 back.
The rest of the TPE to Sacramento for BJelica and picks.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 28, 2021 13:14:25 GMT -5
That would give us:
Oladipo,Brown,Tatum,Gordon,Vooch
Teague,Redick,Ball,Bjelica,TT.
Rwill,Green,Tacko
When Green and RWill are 11th and 12th we are in championship potential.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 28, 2021 13:16:19 GMT -5
Ball would be the playmaker while defending the SF on defense.
Teague and Redick would be the corner three guys.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 13:31:28 GMT -5
So, I'm not going to give my list of who I would like to see the TPE used on.........just use it. We all know I like Barnes, Bjelica, Ariza, Young etc. Using a buy out won't do it for me. He has to use the TPE - or else he blew the Turner trade big time. Also as far as using the logic "This Celtics team isnt complete since the TPE isnt used" needs to stop. Whos to say this isnt a complete team? I think holding out hope for the TPE to be used is less realistic then not using it I also think our GM really wants to see our "complete" team before making any decisions. This includes Romeo, and let's not forget, last night was the first time our starting team played together all year.......I think he'll wait until Langford gets back before doing anything
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 28, 2021 13:32:15 GMT -5
This guy is so underpaid and underrated!
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 13:42:15 GMT -5
This guy is so underpaid and underrated! I'm all in
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 28, 2021 13:43:26 GMT -5
This guy is so underpaid and underrated! I'm all in Theis will never be this good.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 13:43:39 GMT -5
Happy 72nd birthday, Pop. It's guys like you and Biden that make me think I can keep going long past when my Dad retired. Oh, and you're a great coach, too.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 13:44:15 GMT -5
Theis will never be this good. Probably not, but Theis is who we have right now
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Post by solly on Jan 28, 2021 13:48:45 GMT -5
Also as far as using the logic "This Celtics team isnt complete since the TPE isnt used" needs to stop. Whos to say this isnt a complete team? I think holding out hope for the TPE to be used is less realistic then not using it I also think our GM really wants to see our "complete" team before making any decisions. This includes Romeo, and let's not forget, last night was the first time our starting team played together all year.......I think he'll wait until Langford gets back before doing anything Ya im not big on Romeo. Hes not going to come magically help this team after barely playing. Id be willing to bet if Ainge uses the TPE its in the offseason
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 13:52:38 GMT -5
I also think our GM really wants to see our "complete" team before making any decisions. This includes Romeo, and let's not forget, last night was the first time our starting team played together all year.......I think he'll wait until Langford gets back before doing anything Ya im not big on Romeo. Hes not going to come magically help this team after barely playing. Id be willing to bet if Ainge uses the TPE its in the offseason Well, I kind of meant it like to see if he has any trade value. I realize he's not taking us over the top, but if he any good, we can trade him and keep Nesmith. But we can't until we see if he has any value. Not sure if I'm explaining this correctly or not
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Post by solly on Jan 28, 2021 13:55:41 GMT -5
Ya im not big on Romeo. Hes not going to come magically help this team after barely playing. Id be willing to bet if Ainge uses the TPE its in the offseason Well, I kind of meant it like to see if he has any trade value. I realize he's not taking us over the top, but if he any good, we can trade him and keep Nesmith. But we can't until we see if he has any value. Not sure if I'm explaining this correctly or not No I get you, maybe he could be used in a trade. He just doesnt show any unique ability and he cant stay healthy imo. Not sure how much value he adds to a deal on our end, but maybe teams just like that hes young and a good athlete.
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Post by petey62 on Jan 28, 2021 14:22:59 GMT -5
Folks let's be realistic. Take off your green Celtics glasses. Who in the NBA would let DA win a trade involving Langford? We'd be happy to get a second rounder for him until he can show something. So far in his short career, he has done absolutely nothing. Some posters mention his defense but I just don't see where any part of his game makes him a valuable trade asset before April.
If Langford can return and, after getting in playing shape, play a solid 20 games, then, maybe, he might have low second round trade value.
I also agree with Solly, we will likely not use the TPE (most of or a portion of it) until after the season. Why use a small portion of it for what likely won't be a player who will have a significant impact on our progress. Not sure the TPE should be used for a "minor upgrade" player(s). Also, let's stop with the idea of factoring in the result of the TPE in any discussion about the team as it is now. This team may very well be the same team come April and May.
It's funny how we as Celtics fans make comments like "let's get DeRozan" or "we should use it on Gordon or Thad Young", like those players are available or will be available. I think we should all be REALISTIC when discussing this team right now and leave out the TPE cause it's irrelevant now.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 14:27:54 GMT -5
Well, I kind of meant it like to see if he has any trade value. I realize he's not taking us over the top, but if he any good, we can trade him and keep Nesmith. But we can't until we see if he has any value. Not sure if I'm explaining this correctly or not No I get you, maybe he could be used in a trade. He just doesnt show any unique ability and he cant stay healthy imo. Not sure how much value he adds to a deal on our end, but maybe teams just like that hes young and a good athlete. The NBA now is all about potential. That's why guys like Pritchard, with four years, go late in the first round. And Semi went in the second round. Romeo, like you say, is young, and he was a top recruit in HS. So, I believe he can be on some team that views his potential as a late bloomer, like maybe Gerald Green, who came too young to the NBA at 18. So, we'll see what happens with young Mr. Langford going forward
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 28, 2021 14:32:12 GMT -5
Folks let's be realistic. Take off your green Celtics glasses. Who in the NBA would let DA win a trade involving Langford? We'd be happy to get a second rounder for him until he can show something. So far in his short career, he has done absolutely nothing. Some posters mention his defense but I just don't see where any part of his game makes him a valuable trade asset before April. If Langford can return and, after getting in playing shape, play a solid 20 games, then, maybe, he might have low second round trade value. I also agree with Solly, we will likely not use the TPE (most of or a portion of it) until after the season. Why use a small portion of it for what likely won't be a player who will have a significant impact on our progress. Not sure the TPE should be used for a "minor upgrade" player(s). Also, let's stop with the idea of factoring in the result of the TPE in any discussion about the team as it is now. This team may very well be the same team come April and May. It's funny how we as Celtics fans make comments like "let's get DeRozan" or "we should use it on Gordon or Thad Young", like those players are available or will be available. I think we should all be REALISTIC when discussing this team right now and leave out the TPE cause it's irrelevant now. I specifically said wait on Langford until he's healthy. I also said he will not take us over the top, but perhaps some team would like him as a filler for salary on a trade. I never said trade the guy straight up for anyone. I can't speak for anyone else, but I am being realistic by saying we need someone to help us if we want to be better this year. The topic at hand is the TPE, and many of us, including me, are just speculating on who we would like to use it on. Some teams may want to dump salary and unload players, and I think SAC might be one of those teams. That's all this is, no one is being unrealistic here..............who would you want?
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Post by petey62 on Jan 28, 2021 14:45:40 GMT -5
hedley, who I want has nothing to do with the TPE. I want John Collins. I want a young PF stud who can come in and learn how to maximize his offensive and defensive capabilities. I want a young guy who can come in and provide impact and still be a player who can develop within our core.
As for the TPE, I have no idea who I want. It really doesn't matter because whoever it is, we won't know if he's a good fit for awhile.
I hear some folks say DeRozan and last night as an example. If we could last night's player who can score 21 points on just 8 shot attempts and add 7 assists and 5 rebounds, I'd say use it on him TODAY. I'm just not sure that would be the everyday DeRozan we'd be getting.
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 28, 2021 14:53:02 GMT -5
Yes, I would be happy if we got Barnes. But that is not the point. The point is - we'd better get SOMEONE. Our GM knows more about the league than I do, so I will trust him to get a good player, like I always have. As I've said repeatedly, though, he'd better not let that go unused, or his ass will be grass on this forum in my book Absolutely! I will be joining you and the others who will grass his ass if the TPE go unused this season. I've started early!!
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 28, 2021 14:56:48 GMT -5
This guy is so underpaid and underrated! I'm all in I'm past all in!
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