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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:16:03 GMT -5
Dont know why the bad vibe against GW. He is actually a decent player. He does the little things. Yesterday he had a good stint towards the end. He has had bad games but he will continue to improve and be more consistent as we go on further into the season. Just like Rozier when he was here. He got all the bashing during regular season but was the most consistent player in the playoffs. Expect the same from GW. It's true he does the little things, but he's just not good enough against the elite teams. I do agree that he will continue to improve. But if the Celts are going to be an elite team, Ainge needs to find someone better than GWill and Semi at PF.
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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:17:13 GMT -5
Nets expected to make a run for Drummond. The other day we watched the guy. One of those bigs with lots of potential but a lazy worker. Reminds me of Sullinger. They both had it but in the gym they were atrocious. Drummond looks really out of shape. It takes a good team that will inspire him to make changes. He could then be a beast. Only way Drummond has a chance to join the Nets is if he's bought out. That's very unlikely.
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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:18:30 GMT -5
In the long run, they wont pay Kemba that much money and bring him off the bench. Maybe itll work while hes coming back from the knee injury, but he will be in the starting lineup when his restrictions are off would be my guess. Agree on TT/Theis. Just not enough scoring/shooting ability against great teams, especially in the half court with those guys on the floor. Yeah, they are not paying Kemba 34m to be a bench player...plus it would radically affect the ability to trade him...a trade can be justified now because we have potentially a young inexpensive option in Pritchard... There you go again with bold predictions. Let me guess, if Kemba doesn't get traded, it's Ainge's fault?
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Post by solly on Jan 26, 2021 10:22:08 GMT -5
In the long run, they wont pay Kemba that much money and bring him off the bench. Maybe itll work while hes coming back from the knee injury, but he will be in the starting lineup when his restrictions are off would be my guess. Agree on TT/Theis. Just not enough scoring/shooting ability against great teams, especially in the half court with those guys on the floor. Yeah, they are not paying Kemba 34m to be a bench player...plus it would radically affect the ability to trade him...a trade can be justified now because we have potentially a young inexpensive option in Pritchard... Ya, Kemba is still valuable because he can create his own shot and is still a solid scoring option. The offense gets stagnant in the halfcourt of these playoff series because their 3 best scorers (Kemba, Tatum, Brown) are all ball in their hands, iso scorers. And if they arent on their game, they dont get many easy shots in crunch time. I think theyd benefit from a true, get in the paint on the Pick and Roll and distribute type point guard. Id be all for trading him, but Pritchard is not a guy id fall back on just yet.
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Post by elvissurfs on Jan 26, 2021 10:27:52 GMT -5
Yeah, they are not paying Kemba 34m to be a bench player...plus it would radically affect the ability to trade him...a trade can be justified now because we have potentially a young inexpensive option in Pritchard... There you go again with bold predictions. Let me guess, if Kemba doesn't get traded, it's Ainge's fault? You have called for Kemba to be traded to the Knicks a hundred times...
If I say the sky is blue, are you going to dispute it?...just because I dared to challenge your opinion of where the Celtics are at this point in time?...And because I dared to question the management?...
We come here to talk Celtics and opinions...sometimes those opinions are different than yours...
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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:35:50 GMT -5
There you go again with bold predictions. Let me guess, if Kemba doesn't get traded, it's Ainge's fault? You have called for Kemba to be traded to the Knicks a hundred times...
If I say the sky is blue, are you going to dispute it?...just because I dared to challenge your opinion of where the Celtics are at this point in time?...And because I dared to question the management?...
We come here to talk Celtics and opinions...
That was when the Knicks had the #8 pick of the 2020 draft. And you really think Pritchard is ready to play 30 minutes in the playoffs? I thought you wanted to prevent the Lakers from getting Banner 18? Celts will not go far in the playoffs if you replace Kemba with Pritchard. If Kemba's going to be traded, it will be after the season. Ainge is not going to risk disrupting team chemistry by trading Kemba in the middle of the season.
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Post by solly on Jan 26, 2021 10:36:49 GMT -5
Where's Solly?? Oh i forgot this is only regular season! Sorry as an adult with responsibilities I couldnt catch the 9pm game against the Chicago Bulls! Im a bad fan!
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 26, 2021 10:38:28 GMT -5
Yeah, they are not paying Kemba 34m to be a bench player...plus it would radically affect the ability to trade him...a trade can be justified now because we have potentially a young inexpensive option in Pritchard... There you go again with bold predictions. Let me guess, if Kemba doesn't get traded, it's Ainge's fault? fault? Damage is already done in paying so much for the guy.
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 26, 2021 10:39:40 GMT -5
Dont know why the bad vibe against GW. He is actually a decent player. He does the little things. Yesterday he had a good stint towards the end. He has had bad games but he will continue to improve and be more consistent as we go on further into the season. Just like Rozier when he was here. He got all the bashing during regular season but was the most consistent player in the playoffs. Expect the same from GW. It's true he does the little things, but he's just not good enough against the elite teams. I do agree that he will continue to improve. But if the Celts are going to be an elite team, Ainge needs to find someone better than GWill and Semi at PF. not what we all saw against miami in the playoffs. Only guy containing Adebayo was GW.
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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:43:55 GMT -5
There you go again with bold predictions. Let me guess, if Kemba doesn't get traded, it's Ainge's fault? fault? Damage is already done in paying so much for the guy. I would agree with you if the Celts still had Hayward at 25m per year. But since GH is gone, Kemba's contract is not a cap killer anymore.
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Post by elvissurfs on Jan 26, 2021 10:46:12 GMT -5
You have called for Kemba to be traded to the Knicks a hundred times...
If I say the sky is blue, are you going to dispute it?...just because I dared to challenge your opinion of where the Celtics are at this point in time?...And because I dared to question the management?...
We come here to talk Celtics and opinions...
That was when the Knicks had the #8 pick of the 2020 draft. And you really think Pritchard is ready to play 30 minutes in the playoffs? I thought you wanted to prevent the Lakers from getting Banner 18? Celts will not go far in the playoffs if you replace Kemba with Pritchard. If Kemba's going to be traded, it will be after the season. Ainge is not going to risk disrupting team chemistry by trading Kemba in the middle of the season. That is why I said that we had a 'potential replacement' in Pritchard...and I agree with you that any trade of Kemba will happen after the season, if he can remain healthy...and if Pritchard can continue to develop...
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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:46:39 GMT -5
It's true he does the little things, but he's just not good enough against the elite teams. I do agree that he will continue to improve. But if the Celts are going to be an elite team, Ainge needs to find someone better than GWill and Semi at PF. not what we all saw against miami in the playoffs. Only guy containing Adebayo was GW. Not really. Bam averaged 21.8 ppg and 11.0 rpg against the Celts in the east finals. If Bam wasn't a problem in the playoffs, the Celts would've been in the finals instead of the Heat. But a couple of weeks ago, we saw how Bam was contained when Bam was held to 15 points and 8 rebounds against TT.
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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:47:40 GMT -5
That was when the Knicks had the #8 pick of the 2020 draft. And you really think Pritchard is ready to play 30 minutes in the playoffs? I thought you wanted to prevent the Lakers from getting Banner 18? Celts will not go far in the playoffs if you replace Kemba with Pritchard. If Kemba's going to be traded, it will be after the season. Ainge is not going to risk disrupting team chemistry by trading Kemba in the middle of the season. That is why I said that we had a 'potential replacement' in Pritchard...and I agree with you that any trade of Kemba will happen after the season, if he can remain healthy...and if Pritchard can continue to develop... Agree with you on that!
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Post by solly on Jan 26, 2021 10:48:48 GMT -5
not what we all saw against miami in the playoffs. Only guy containing Adebayo was GW. Not really. Bam averaged 21.8 ppg and 11.0 rpg against the Celts in the east finals. If Bam wasn't a problem in the playoffs, the Celts would've been in the finals instead of the Heat. But a couple of weeks ago, we saw how Bam was contained when Bam was held to 15 points and 8 rebounds against TT. Nothing like a 1 game sample size Also Bams stats in the series dont reflect how Gwill guarded him
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 26, 2021 10:49:09 GMT -5
We can all have wish lists but lets not forget that other teams have their wish lists as well. We might not have Adebayo as a PF but we have JB and JT in other spots. We have a very solid team that is and has been inconsistent for years. I keep saying, its on brad or on these two stars to make it work. IMO we could cruise at least to the conference finals if this group got into the habit of sharing the ball. Then I see Kemba come in and do his cardiac moves and it defies the purpose of that team ball. Yesterday it was JB and JT on other ocassions. Rookie is three of three from the 3 wide open and doesnt get the ball. Is shit like that that stops us. Is not not having that ideal PF or that ideal Center. Its on the team, the culture. Having said that, i think they are playing better than last year.
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 26, 2021 10:51:21 GMT -5
not what we all saw against miami in the playoffs. Only guy containing Adebayo was GW. Not really. Bam averaged 21.8 ppg and 11.0 rpg against the Celts in the east finals. If Bam wasn't a problem in the playoffs, the Celts would've been in the finals instead of the Heat. But a couple of weeks ago, we saw how Bam was contained when Bam was held to 15 points and 8 rebounds against TT. you always navigating around. Circumventing the facts. Adebayo avg a few points against GW. he torched theis only.
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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:53:39 GMT -5
We can all have wish lists but lets not forget that other teams have their wish lists as well. We might not have Adebayo as a PF but we have JB and JT in other spots. We have a very solid team that is and has been inconsistent for years. I keep saying, its on brad or on these two stars to make it work. IMO we could cruise at least to the conference finals if this group got into the habit of sharing the ball. Then I see Kemba come in and do his cardiac moves and it defies the purpose of that team ball. Yesterday it was JB and JT on other ocassions. Rookie is three of three from the 3 wide open and doesnt get the ball. Is shit like that that stops us. Is not not having that ideal PF or that ideal Center. Its on the team, the culture. Having said that, i think they are playing better than last year. Agree with you on sharing the ball. Lakers look dominant right now because they play excellent team ball. I think the Celts just lack maturity. Hopefully they will mature this season.
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Post by solly on Jan 26, 2021 10:54:27 GMT -5
We can all have wish lists but lets not forget that other teams have their wish lists as well. We might not have Adebayo as a PF but we have JB and JT in other spots. We have a very solid team that is and has been inconsistent for years. I keep saying, its on brad or on t hese two stars to make it work. IMO we could cruise at least to the conference finals if this group got into the habit of sharing the ball. Then I see Kemba come in and do his cardiac moves and it defies the purpose of that team ball. Yesterday it was JB and JT on other ocassions. Rookie is three of three from the 3 wide open and doesnt get the ball. Is shit like that that stops us. Is not not having that ideal PF or that ideal Center. Its on the team, the culture. Having said that, i think they are playing better than last year. Agree totally, especially with the bolded. No role player is taking this team over the top and making them a contender. It depends on the play of JT and JB and their continued development. I also agree with their inconsistencies, especially when they show up in the playoffs. They have trouble scoring in spurts, and its glaring. Their 3 best players, are all iso scorers and in the halfcourt they dont get a ton of easy shots, at least not consistently.
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 26, 2021 10:55:17 GMT -5
We can all have wish lists but lets not forget that other teams have their wish lists as well. We might not have Adebayo as a PF but we have JB and JT in other spots. We have a very solid team that is and has been inconsistent for years. I keep saying, its on brad or on these two stars to make it work. IMO we could cruise at least to the conference finals if this group got into the habit of sharing the ball. Then I see Kemba come in and do his cardiac moves and it defies the purpose of that team ball. Yesterday it was JB and JT on other ocassions. Rookie is three of three from the 3 wide open and doesnt get the ball. Is shit like that that stops us. Is not not having that ideal PF or that ideal Center. Its on the team, the culture. Having said that, i think they are playing better than last year. Agree with you on sharing the ball. Lakers look dominant right now because they play excellent team ball. I think the Celts just lack maturity. Hopefully they will mature this season. absolutely
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Post by solly on Jan 26, 2021 10:56:12 GMT -5
We can all have wish lists but lets not forget that other teams have their wish lists as well. We might not have Adebayo as a PF but we have JB and JT in other spots. We have a very solid team that is and has been inconsistent for years. I keep saying, its on brad or on these two stars to make it work. IMO we could cruise at least to the conference finals if this group got into the habit of sharing the ball. Then I see Kemba come in and do his cardiac moves and it defies the purpose of that team ball. Yesterday it was JB and JT on other ocassions. Rookie is three of three from the 3 wide open and doesnt get the ball. Is shit like that that stops us. Is not not having that ideal PF or that ideal Center. Its on the team, the culture. Having said that, i think they are playing better than last year. Agree with you on sharing the ball. Lakers look dominant right now because they play excellent team ball. I think the Celts just lack maturity. Hopefully they will mature this season. Its funny he says this, which is totally reasonable. Young players simply dont win Championships in this league. So when I predict the Nets will go to the Finals, he gets bent out of shape. Not much consistency here Also the Lakers are great at sharing the ball because their best player is one of the greatest playmakers in the history of the sport
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Post by fierce on Jan 26, 2021 10:56:15 GMT -5
Not really. Bam averaged 21.8 ppg and 11.0 rpg against the Celts in the east finals. If Bam wasn't a problem in the playoffs, the Celts would've been in the finals instead of the Heat. But a couple of weeks ago, we saw how Bam was contained when Bam was held to 15 points and 8 rebounds against TT. you always navigating around. Circumventing the facts. Adebayo avg a few points against GW. he torched theis only. I don't know about that. Against Miami, GWill only averaged 8 minutes per game. The most minutes he got in one game was 10 minutes.
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 26, 2021 10:56:17 GMT -5
We can all have wish lists but lets not forget that other teams have their wish lists as well. We might not have Adebayo as a PF but we have JB and JT in other spots. We have a very solid team that is and has been inconsistent for years. I keep saying, its on brad or on t hese two stars to make it work. IMO we could cruise at least to the conference finals if this group got into the habit of sharing the ball. Then I see Kemba come in and do his cardiac moves and it defies the purpose of that team ball. Yesterday it was JB and JT on other ocassions. Rookie is three of three from the 3 wide open and doesnt get the ball. Is shit like that that stops us. Is not not having that ideal PF or that ideal Center. Its on the team, the culture. Having said that, i think they are playing better than last year. Agree totally, especially with the bolded. No role player is taking this team over the top and making them a contender. It depends on the play of JT and JB and their continued development. I also agree with their inconsistencies, especially when they show up in the playoffs. They have trouble scoring in spurts, and its glaring. Their 3 best players, are all iso scorers and in the halfcourt they dont get a ton of easy shots, at least not consistently. there is help though. I think Pritchard and Neismith are ahead. At least they are showing more than what i was hoping for.
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 26, 2021 10:57:37 GMT -5
you always navigating around. Circumventing the facts. Adebayo avg a few points against GW. he torched theis only. I don't know about that. Against Miami, GWill only averaged 8 minutes per game. The most minutes he got in one game was 10 minutes. and that was the criticisim of many not only here but around the nba. Brad could have used GW much more than what he did proving in favor of his ability to manage adebayo.
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 26, 2021 10:58:21 GMT -5
I remember it vividly BS would put theis in and Spoelstra would run to the bench to grab adebayo.
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Post by solly on Jan 26, 2021 10:58:53 GMT -5
Agree totally, especially with the bolded. No role player is taking this team over the top and making them a contender. It depends on the play of JT and JB and their continued development. I also agree with their inconsistencies, especially when they show up in the playoffs. They have trouble scoring in spurts, and its glaring. Their 3 best players, are all iso scorers and in the halfcourt they dont get a ton of easy shots, at least not consistently. there is help though. I think Pritchard and Neismith are ahead. At least they are showing more than what i was hoping for. Ya for sure, not saying role players wouldnt help...Just that the extent that they can help can only go so far. If this team wants to go to the next level JT and JB have to be able to consistently make plays for the other guys and get them easy looks. Most role players are role players because they dont have the skillset to create their own shots or score consistently.
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