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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 31, 2019 10:47:44 GMT -5
More bad news for Steph Curry and GSW. He has a broken hand. They're gonna finish last! Which is bad because they are really smart, and draft well. A high draft pick, a returning Klay, and Russell being great trade bait will put them right back on top next year.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 31, 2019 10:49:31 GMT -5
Honestly I'm not even sure I would call Kemba a PG on this team. It seems like he usually receives the ball at the end of the action. Trying to get him the ball in his spot with the d scrambling. I see him taking the ball up, then immediately passing and taking a big curl while Hayward works his way toward the basket and makes the actual decisions. Agreed. A lot of the offense is run through Hayward and Tatum. Kemba was not really brought here to be a facilitator, he's a scorer.
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Post by puddin on Oct 31, 2019 11:37:07 GMT -5
Love the charges this MoFo takes....
Like a Timex watch... he takes a lickin and keeps on tickin!!!
Pud
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Post by drewski6 on Oct 31, 2019 11:37:14 GMT -5
Great game, we need to tighten up the 3 ball defense. A lot of late rotations, giving good shooters open looks. We had to know they would do that because its their MO. Great heart displayed by Smart and Kemba. These charges are a little scary but Ill knock on wood. Tatum is clutch. You can tell by his face and demeanor. Ice in his veins.That's why I keep saying he's going to be a superstar. Jayson Tatum has the mentality, shooting touch, and moves of an NBA superstar. TatuMAX! He's certainly fearless in big moments.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 31, 2019 11:45:10 GMT -5
Love the charges this MoFo takes....
Like a Timex watch... he takes a lickin and keeps on tickin!!!
Pud Loved Smart since the day we drafted him. ONLY issue is he plays so hard, he seems to get hurt every year. Hopefully this will be the year he breaks that tradition. We need him.
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Post by cole on Oct 31, 2019 11:46:52 GMT -5
Honestly I'm not even sure I would call Kemba a PG on this team. It seems like he usually receives the ball at the end of the action. Trying to get him the ball in his spot with the d scrambling. I see him taking the ball up, then immediately passing and taking a big curl while Hayward works his way toward the basket and makes the actual decisions. Cole, I hear you but when our offense is really flowing, Kemba brings the ball up and waits for a screen and then initiates the offense by getting into the paint or pulling up for the perimeter shot. Funny thing..........that is exactly what Hayward does too. But Kemba doesn't feel the need to be ball-dominant. He's fine with the offense being initiated by Smart or Hayward. Kyrie never yielded that to anyone. yeah, then it's IT time and it works nicely in a short burst, like nitro. it's bad for the team in steady doses though, as we saw last year
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Post by cole on Oct 31, 2019 11:47:46 GMT -5
Love the charges this MoFo takes....
Like a Timex watch... he takes a lickin and keeps on tickin!!!
Pud Loved Smart since the day we drafted him. ONLY issue is he plays so hard, he seems to get hurt every year. Hopefully this will be the year he breaks that tradition. We need him. one thing, he's obviously worked hard to get himself into a shape where he can sustain his playing style. Plus he hasn't punched any walls
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Post by fierce on Oct 31, 2019 13:18:14 GMT -5
That's why I keep saying he's going to be a superstar. Jayson Tatum has the mentality, shooting touch, and moves of an NBA superstar. TatuMAX! He's certainly fearless in big moments.That's the mark of a star player.
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Post by quagmire on Oct 31, 2019 13:44:50 GMT -5
Thoughts:
Went back and re-read this entire thread this morning. Very funny and very enlightening! Some folks should be downright embarrassed at some of their comments though! Are you listening drboogiebone?
A tale of two halves. Looked like the ML Carr led Celtics in the first half and finally the exciting young Celtics team that will be fun to watch, in the 2nd half.
First half showed how much JBrown means to this team.
Marcus Smart! Has more grit and determination than the entire rest of the team combined! He is a steal at his current contract.
GHayward still does not have the consistency we all looking for. Especially on D where he gets beat like a drum.
Semi- good game last night, but jeepers do something with your hair! Do you realize you look like a moron?
Got a little taste of Kemba last night. Hope there is a lot more to come.
Time Lord and GWilliams are looking good so far. Time Lord needs to assert himself more, GWill needs to grow 5" LOL
Paid very close attention to the Celtics bench last night. I foresee trouble brewing with Romeo Langford and Carsen Edwards. Neither one really cheers or supports their teammates on the floor, and sit with sullen looks on their faces. Looks like both having difficulty not being the big man on campus. Will their attitudes affect their game? Hope not because that will keep them on the bench longer.
Tell me again why Wannamaker is on this team? To quote a baseball term; he is a great 4A player, not much at the big league level.
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Post by petey62 on Oct 31, 2019 14:37:11 GMT -5
He's certainly fearless in big moments.That's the mark of a star player. I love Jayson Tatum. Again, I love Jayson Tatum. He shows some marks of a "star" player but he also shows some marks as a "very good" player, at best. Tatum has a long way to go to become a superstar in this league. In my opinion, right now he's a fine young player but he has so many flaws in his game to overcome before being a superstar. He shows no more fearlessness than any other Celtics player. I want to see this guy engaged for 48 minutes, from the opening tip. I'd love to see him come out fully engaged from the start and drop 40 on somebody. Last night, I believe EVERYONE put it all together in the 2nd half, not just Tatum. I saw fearlessness in Tatum last night but I also saw fearlessness in the faces of Kemba and Gordon and Daniel and always Marcus. But I also see the continued lack of engagement for an entire half. I still see the continued lack of strength with the ball (driving to the rim) and lack of handles out on the perimeter. He loses the ball far too much for my liking. And his mentality needs to be like Smart's - come out the locker room ready for battle (no letting the game come to you). Superstars come out and impose their will from the start. They don't sit back for a half and, once the team starts fearlessly clicking, join in and become fearless too. I thought "Mamba Academy" would have instilled that trait. He's got a lot to work on to become a superstar, with his mentality, skills and strength, and, in my opinion, that should be much improved now that we're in year 3. I love Jayson Tatum but let's wait and see how he develops (and improves) before forecasting him a future superstar.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 31, 2019 14:43:22 GMT -5
That's the mark of a star player. I love Jayson Tatum. Again, I love Jayson Tatum. He shows some marks of a "star" player but he also shows some marks as a "very good" player, at best. Tatum has a long way to go to become a superstar in this league. In my opinion, right now he's a fine young player but he has so many flaws in his game to overcome before being a superstar. He shows no more fearlessness than any other Celtics player. I want to see this guy engaged for 48 minutes, from the opening tip. I'd love to see him come out fully engaged from the start and drop 40 on somebody. Last night, I believe EVERYONE put it all together in the 2nd half, not just Tatum. I saw fearlessness in Tatum last night but I also saw fearlessness in the faces of Kemba and Gordon and Daniel and always Marcus. But I also see the continued lack of engagement for an entire half. I still see the continued lack of strength with the ball (driving to the rim) and lack of handles out on the perimeter. He loses the ball far too much for my liking. And his mentality needs to be like Smart's - come out the locker room ready for battle (no letting the game come to you). Superstars come out and impose their will from the start. They don't sit back for a half and, once the team starts fearlessly clicking, join in and become fearless too. I thought "Mamba Academy" would have instilled that trait. He's got a lot to work on to become a superstar, with his mentality, skills and strength, and, in my opinion, that should be much improved now that we're in year 3. I love Jayson Tatum but let's wait and see how he develops (and improves) before forecasting him a future superstar. Spot on. LOVE the kid. Needs to get stronger, better handle and a "go-to" move. Right now he's just a shooter and slasher. I think he will do it, and I think he will do it in Boston. None of us were "grown" men at 21!! LOL
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Post by puddin on Oct 31, 2019 14:47:09 GMT -5
Thoughts: Went back and re-read this entire thread this morning. Very funny and very enlightening! Some folks should be downright embarrassed at some of their comments though! Are you listening drboogiebone?A tale of two halves. Looked like the ML Carr led Celtics in the first half and finally the exciting young Celtics team that will be fun to watch, in the 2nd half. First half showed how much JBrown means to this team. Marcus Smart! Has more grit and determination than the entire rest of the team combined! He is a steal at his current contract. GHayward still does not have the consistency we all looking for. Especially on D where he gets beat like a drum. Semi- good game last night, but jeepers do something with your hair! Do you realize you look like a moron? Got a little taste of Kemba last night. Hope there is a lot more to come. Time Lord and GWilliams are looking good so far. Time Lord needs to assert himself more, GWill needs to grow 5" LOL Paid very close attention to the Celtics bench last night. I foresee trouble brewing with Romeo Langford and Carsen Edwards. Neither one really cheers or supports their teammates on the floor, and sit with sullen looks on their faces. Looks like both having difficulty not being the big man on campus. Will their attitudes affect their game? Hope not because that will keep them on the bench longer. Tell me again why Wannamaker is on this team? To quote a baseball term; he is a great 4A player, not much at the big league level. The good doctor can get carried away at times.
On the positive side, he does carry the game-on threads religiously... and I thank him for that.
Pud
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 31, 2019 15:27:07 GMT -5
Thoughts: Went back and re-read this entire thread this morning. Very funny and very enlightening! Some folks should be downright embarrassed at some of their comments though! Are you listening drboogiebone?A tale of two halves. Looked like the ML Carr led Celtics in the first half and finally the exciting young Celtics team that will be fun to watch, in the 2nd half. First half showed how much JBrown means to this team. Marcus Smart! Has more grit and determination than the entire rest of the team combined! He is a steal at his current contract. GHayward still does not have the consistency we all looking for. Especially on D where he gets beat like a drum. Semi- good game last night, but jeepers do something with your hair! Do you realize you look like a moron? Got a little taste of Kemba last night. Hope there is a lot more to come. Time Lord and GWilliams are looking good so far. Time Lord needs to assert himself more, GWill needs to grow 5" LOL Paid very close attention to the Celtics bench last night. I foresee trouble brewing with Romeo Langford and Carsen Edwards. Neither one really cheers or supports their teammates on the floor, and sit with sullen looks on their faces. Looks like both having difficulty not being the big man on campus. Will their attitudes affect their game? Hope not because that will keep them on the bench longer. Tell me again why Wannamaker is on this team? To quote a baseball term; he is a great 4A player, not much at the big league level. The good doctor can get carried away at times.
On the positive side, he does carry the game-on threads religiously... and I thank him for that.
Pud
Agreed. In fairness to the Doc, he reports in real time, and last night in the first half we sucked. I was yelling at the TV myself. I don't think it's necessary to "bash" someone who is merely reporting what is happening. Anyone, and I'm guilty of this too, can write posts AFTER the game ( I tape it - 3 hour difference), and be accurate knowing the outcome. Kudos to Doc for his accurate reporting.
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Post by cole on Oct 31, 2019 15:34:30 GMT -5
I love Jayson Tatum. Again, I love Jayson Tatum. He shows some marks of a "star" player but he also shows some marks as a "very good" player, at best. Tatum has a long way to go to become a superstar in this league. In my opinion, right now he's a fine young player but he has so many flaws in his game to overcome before being a superstar. He shows no more fearlessness than any other Celtics player. I want to see this guy engaged for 48 minutes, from the opening tip. I'd love to see him come out fully engaged from the start and drop 40 on somebody. Last night, I believe EVERYONE put it all together in the 2nd half, not just Tatum. I saw fearlessness in Tatum last night but I also saw fearlessness in the faces of Kemba and Gordon and Daniel and always Marcus. But I also see the continued lack of engagement for an entire half. I still see the continued lack of strength with the ball (driving to the rim) and lack of handles out on the perimeter. He loses the ball far too much for my liking. And his mentality needs to be like Smart's - come out the locker room ready for battle (no letting the game come to you). Superstars come out and impose their will from the start. They don't sit back for a half and, once the team starts fearlessly clicking, join in and become fearless too. I thought "Mamba Academy" would have instilled that trait. He's got a lot to work on to become a superstar, with his mentality, skills and strength, and, in my opinion, that should be much improved now that we're in year 3. I love Jayson Tatum but let's wait and see how he develops (and improves) before forecasting him a future superstar. Spot on. LOVE the kid. Needs to get stronger, better handle and a "go-to" move. Right now he's just a shooter and slasher. I think he will do it, and I think he will do it in Boston. None of us were "grown" men at 21!! LOL Right now I'd compare him to Alan Houston. Quick trigger but not a fully developed game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 16:16:26 GMT -5
Doc reports the game pretty damn well and favors no player or coach.
When the tide turns like last night in the 3rd Doc turns with it. Bitch about the truth? Oh i'm so surprised....
Tatum is taking 20 plus shots a game and about 33% are bad shots. His D maybe has improved a little as he plays the passing lanes for steals.
When he fails is man takes him to the cleaners.
Hayward is our PG or Point Forward and Walker is a 5'11'' shooting guard. He does seem content and plays within his role well.
The reason we won? We hit over 40% of our threes. When we don't we usually lose. Nothing different than last year except a more active Hayward.
The Bucks are one player away from being the 76ers . All this will change before the trade deadline teams will shore up their weakness .
Edwards and Wanamaker need to stay on the bench cheering or crying i care less. Hayward and Smart run the point much better.
Have i gained confidence? Nah second round exit again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 16:21:58 GMT -5
Right now I'd compare him to Alan Houston. Quick trigger but not a fully developed game.
Exactly Cole How many rings did Houston get in 12 seasons I forgot???
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Post by cole on Oct 31, 2019 16:30:58 GMT -5
I'm hoping he'll get better than Houston. I'm saying Tatum now is at peak Houston level.
But that team only made one final as I recall, and lost to Houston
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 31, 2019 16:50:28 GMT -5
When he was drafted, Tatum was compared to, at best Carmelo Anthony and Jabari Parker, and at worst, Rudy Gay. I think it's now above Rudy Gay............
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Post by cole on Oct 31, 2019 17:05:39 GMT -5
I'd say at his best gay was a better scorer
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 17:26:16 GMT -5
I'm hoping he'll get better than Houston. I'm saying Tatum now is at peak Houston level. But that team only made one final as I recall, and lost to Houston Yea he should i don't think he has peaked. Houston wasn't a favorite of mine but he was smooth on his jumper like Tatum. My problem with him. He doesn't mix it up in the paint. Not ever........ I'm glad no one compares Tatum to Pierce. Anthony was a much better player in his prime maybe Tatum gets there. They seem to have the same attitude on the court.. I don't care about but one thing. How do we turn all this talent into a championship the not how good one individual player is... Brown being out and us winning was the most important thing i noticed. We are really deep except for the front line Maybe having 10 wing players is a good idea.. Theis played well i noticed no one noticed..
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 31, 2019 17:59:31 GMT -5
All the starters played well. The bench? Not so much
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Post by cole on Oct 31, 2019 18:01:18 GMT -5
I was shocked how well he moved on the ankle. It was for sure his best game in a while, but I've seen him play better
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2019 18:57:37 GMT -5
Theis is the best we can hope for for 5 mil . Ah the bench . Not so well. Might be a valid reason. 1 Brown was hurt and Smart started who usually leads the bench. 2 Kanter is still out and shares some valuable time on the bench. You mean Edwards? Semi ? and Wanamaker? Good luck on getting consistent play from all three this year. Have the fires approached your home yet in East LA? Don't worry the earthquake coming soon will make the fires look likechilds play....
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Post by quagmire on Oct 31, 2019 19:19:59 GMT -5
Thoughts: Went back and re-read this entire thread this morning. Very funny and very enlightening! Some folks should be downright embarrassed at some of their comments though! Are you listening drboogiebone?A tale of two halves. Looked like the ML Carr led Celtics in the first half and finally the exciting young Celtics team that will be fun to watch, in the 2nd half. First half showed how much JBrown means to this team. Marcus Smart! Has more grit and determination than the entire rest of the team combined! He is a steal at his current contract. GHayward still does not have the consistency we all looking for. Especially on D where he gets beat like a drum. Semi- good game last night, but jeepers do something with your hair! Do you realize you look like a moron? Got a little taste of Kemba last night. Hope there is a lot more to come. Time Lord and GWilliams are looking good so far. Time Lord needs to assert himself more, GWill needs to grow 5" LOL Paid very close attention to the Celtics bench last night. I foresee trouble brewing with Romeo Langford and Carsen Edwards. Neither one really cheers or supports their teammates on the floor, and sit with sullen looks on their faces. Looks like both having difficulty not being the big man on campus. Will their attitudes affect their game? Hope not because that will keep them on the bench longer. Tell me again why Wannamaker is on this team? To quote a baseball term; he is a great 4A player, not much at the big league level. The good doctor can get carried away at times.
On the positive side, he does carry the game-on threads religiously... and I thank him for that.
Pud
Agreed. I actually really LOL’d at several of his comments! And he is there til the end!
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Post by puddin on Oct 31, 2019 19:26:51 GMT -5
Smart and Greek Freak.... the takedown.
Freak looked a bit surprised as bodies were separated!
ADVANTAGE: Smart
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