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Post by drewski6 on Feb 28, 2024 14:10:21 GMT -5
Comparing this years team to last years is like comparing apples to oranges. We are 6 deep .5 good solid starters. 2 so so players off the bench Hauser and PP do well against some teams some nights. Mostly in garbage time but Hauser has made some progress i agree PP not so much that i see he still couldn't guard the Stature of Liberty. When you think this Tillman guy is going to play? Maybe were saving him for next year? Pete said it best. One twisted ankle and it's going to be tough in the playoffs. Stevens in effect did nothing at the trade deadline to bolster the bench. Maybe no one noticed We got 7 pts in 48 minutes from Hauser PP and Kornet last night against a team missing their key player and best defensive one. This is OK? These arent unfair concerns. |
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 14:21:43 GMT -5
Comparing this years team to last years is like comparing apples to oranges. We are 6 deep .5 good solid starters. 2 so so players off the bench Hauser and PP do well against some teams some nights. Mostly in garbage time but Hauser has made some progress i agree PP not so much that i see he still couldn't guard the Stature of Liberty. When you think this Tillman guy is going to play? Maybe were saving him for next year? Pete said it best. One twisted ankle and it's going to be tough in the playoffs. Stevens in effect did nothing at the trade deadline to bolster the bench. Maybe no one noticed We got 7 pts in 48 minutes from Hauser PP and Kornet last night against a team missing their key player and best defensive one. This is OK? These arent unfair concerns. Well our starting 5 is much improved lets hope we have all 5 healthy come playoff time and the bench won't matter as much as last year... |
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Post by petey62 on Feb 28, 2024 14:26:19 GMT -5
nah we don't and the 76ers don't need their best player Embiid either. We can only play what's on the floor against us! I sure hope that's not your plan, starters totally outscoring CLE or MIL starters, against the better teams we'll be playing. That's the root of the "red flag" I keep talking about. If one starter struggles or, even worse, sustains a mild ankle sprain, we have nothing TRUST-WORTHY replacing him in the playoffs. If you want to rely on PP or Hauser guarding Caris LaVert (CLE) or Bogdanovic/Hart/Achiuwa/Burks (NYK) or Jacquez/Richardson/Robinson (MIA) in the playoffs, then good luck. It's a totally different monster then and, I'm sorry, but I don't see us having the depth to match those team's starters and their "more talented than ours" bench players. Our starting 5 versus every tough team's starting 5 and much talented bench will be a huge burden on our starting 5. |
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Post by petey62 on Feb 28, 2024 14:27:51 GMT -5
These arent unfair concerns. Well our starting 5 is much improved lets hope we have all 5 healthy come playoff time and the bench won't matter as much as last year... No matter how we plan it, we will have to rely heavily on our bench in the playoffs. And it'll be a crying shame if we are unprepared in the event of that happening. |
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 28, 2024 14:34:37 GMT -5
We can only play what's on the floor against us! I sure hope that's not your plan, starters totally outscoring CLE or MIL starters, against the better teams we'll be playing. That's the root of the "red flag" I keep talking about. If one starter struggles or, even worse, sustains a mild ankle sprain, we have nothing TRUST-WORTHY replacing him in the playoffs. If you want to rely on PP or Hauser guarding Caris LaVert (CLE) or Bogdanovic/Hart/Achiuwa/Burks (NYK) or Jacquez/Richardson/Robinson (MIA) in the playoffs, then good luck. It's a totally different monster then and, I'm sorry, but I don't see us having the depth to match those team's starters and their "more talented than ours" bench players. Our starting 5 versus every tough team's starting 5 and much talented bench will be a huge burden on our starting 5. So which of those teams are you predicting will beat us in the playoffs?? |
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Post by petey62 on Feb 28, 2024 14:45:25 GMT -5
I sure hope that's not your plan, starters totally outscoring CLE or MIL starters, against the better teams we'll be playing. That's the root of the "red flag" I keep talking about. If one starter struggles or, even worse, sustains a mild ankle sprain, we have nothing TRUST-WORTHY replacing him in the playoffs. If you want to rely on PP or Hauser guarding Caris LaVert (CLE) or Bogdanovic/Hart/Achiuwa/Burks (NYK) or Jacquez/Richardson/Robinson (MIA) in the playoffs, then good luck. It's a totally different monster then and, I'm sorry, but I don't see us having the depth to match those team's starters and their "more talented than ours" bench players. Our starting 5 versus every tough team's starting 5 and much talented bench will be a huge burden on our starting 5. So which of those teams are you predicting will beat us in the playoffs?? Any of those teams CAN beat us in the playoffs. But to answer your question, my prediction is that the Celtics will win the NBA Finals this year. Now, my question to you...... Do you predict that the Celtics starting 5 will all make it thru the playoffs fully healthy and never struggling? |
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 28, 2024 15:11:59 GMT -5
So which of those teams are you predicting will beat us in the playoffs?? Any of those teams CAN beat us in the playoffs. But to answer your question, my prediction is that the Celtics will win the NBA Finals this year. Now, my question to you...... Do you predict that the Celtics starting 5 will all make it thru the playoffs fully healthy and never struggling? Like you, my prediction is we will win banner 18 this season! |
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Post by petey62 on Feb 28, 2024 15:30:11 GMT -5
Any of those teams CAN beat us in the playoffs. But to answer your question, my prediction is that the Celtics will win the NBA Finals this year. Now, my question to you...... Do you predict that the Celtics starting 5 will all make it thru the playoffs fully healthy and never struggling? Like you, my prediction is we will win banner 18 this season! But I also think you can also consider those factors that might derail that prediction. What fun is it to make a prediction but not consider what might become an obstacle to it? |
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 28, 2024 15:49:54 GMT -5
Like you, my prediction is we will win banner 18 this season! But I also think you can also consider those factors that might derail that prediction. What fun is it to make a prediction but not consider what might become an obstacle to it? I'll deal with the obstacles when and if they happen! |
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 15:57:05 GMT -5
Well our starting 5 is much improved lets hope we have all 5 healthy come playoff time and the bench won't matter as much as last year... No matter how we plan it, we will have to rely heavily on our bench in the playoffs. And it'll be a crying shame if we are unprepared in the event of that happening. IDK Pete . I think the plan is to play the all the starters about 38 to 42 minutes a game. I suppose we'll see how Porgy holds up. We have probably one of the poorest benches in the East i already acknowledged that. KY said it best. Something like this When you have 5 starters this good you don't need a bench. I don't have to tell you what i think of that remark. I'm on your side 100% |
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 28, 2024 16:14:10 GMT -5
No matter how we plan it, we will have to rely heavily on our bench in the playoffs. And it'll be a crying shame if we are unprepared in the event of that happening. IDK Pete . I think the plan is to play the all the starters about 38 to 42 minutes a game. I suppose we'll see how Porgy holds up. We have probably one of the poorest benches in the East i already acknowledged that. KY said it best. Something like this When you have 5 starters this good you don't need a bench. I don't have to tell you what i think of that remark. I'm on your side 100% You should start being on my side more often! |
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 16:42:48 GMT -5
IDK Pete . I think the plan is to play the all the starters about 38 to 42 minutes a game. I suppose we'll see how Porgy holds up. We have probably one of the poorest benches in the East i already acknowledged that. KY said it best. Something like this When you have 5 starters this good you don't need a bench. I don't have to tell you what i think of that remark. I'm on your side 100% You should start being on my side more often! I take bribes what might ya be holding i need? |
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 28, 2024 17:04:53 GMT -5
You should start being on my side more often! I take bribes what might ya be holding i need? You ain't getting my MAGA hat, signed by Melania! |
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Post by petey62 on Feb 28, 2024 17:30:47 GMT -5
Not the MAGA hat! Y'all funny.
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 28, 2024 19:31:29 GMT -5
Mitch just announced his retirement from the Senate come November ... Well ain't that sweet...the fricking prick...see ya later... |
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Post by cole on Feb 28, 2024 19:50:52 GMT -5
Mitch just announced his retirement from the Senate come November ... Did he say he was stepping down from the senate and not running, or just that he was stepping down as leader? |
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 20:04:04 GMT -5
Mitch just announced his retirement from the Senate come November ... Did he say he was stepping down from the senate and not running, or just that he was stepping down as leader? Look at him giving the announcement. He not capable and if he was re running he might have kept his seat. He's makes a Zombie look alive. You question? McConnell didn’t preview his plans for his post-leadership career. His term runs to 2027 3 more years he don't have it looks like. Most likely a special election in KY this year or early next. If Trump is elected he'll resign before January. Trump wants to finish destroying him Why are you asking .Do you care. Don't worry another conservative will be appointed to replace him. |
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Post by cole on Feb 28, 2024 20:13:15 GMT -5
Did he say he was stepping down from the senate and not running, or just that he was stepping down as leader? Look at him giving the announcement. He not capable and if he was re running he might have kept his seat. He's near Rob Zombie. You question? McConnell didn’t preview his plans for his post-leadership career. I saw white zombie la sexorcisto tour. Very poor. Album is great. Obviously a studio band. I talked to Paul white aka "big show" half thr time. He was a bouncer at the cotillion in wichita |
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 20:23:51 GMT -5
Look at him giving the announcement. He not capable and if he was re running he might have kept his seat. He's near Rob Zombie. You question? McConnell didn’t preview his plans for his post-leadership career. I saw white zombie la sexorcisto tour. Very poor. Album is great. Obviously a studio band. I talked to Paul white aka "big show" half thr time. He was a bouncer at the cotillion in wichita oh My on White Zombie. I added to my last post take a peek. |
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Post by cole on Feb 28, 2024 22:11:00 GMT -5
With friends like mitch, who needs enemies?
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 28, 2024 22:31:10 GMT -5
Stacy Wakefield age 53 just passed away only five months after Tim died. age 57...both due to cancer...
Wakefield was so fun to watch, the last of the great knuckleballers...
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Post by kdp59 on Feb 29, 2024 6:47:33 GMT -5
until they prove me wrong I will not trust Tatum and Brown to step up big when it counts, sorry.
I can see this team just as easily getting bounced BEFORE the ECF's rather than winning it all.
the no depth and Crazy Joe as HC along with the shrinking of Tatum and Brown in big moments is my reasoning.
however I am a pessimist by nature too.
IF I am correct though, the off-season will be FULL of fireworks!
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 29, 2024 9:08:43 GMT -5
With friends like mitch, who needs enemies? I thought he was your friend. Mitch pushed thu all of Trumps agenda . Cut the EPA and and restricted all EPA regulations that had been in place for years.. Tax cuts for the rich and large corporations. He also stopped Obama from appointing Garlend to the supreme court. Now we have a lopsided 6 to 3 conservative court which struck down Roe vs Wade and just yeaterday delayed Trumps trial likely till after the election. One of us is confused on your position on politics. Are you not an Republican and a deep centered conservative or have i misjudged you for over a decade. Saying your a Libertarian don't count Cole. You vote Republican. Simple Yes or No . Now you answer won't piss me off if you honestly answer it. Squirming away under the Libertarian umbrella that don't exist will show you have no character. I would be deeply hurt i think highly of you. |
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Post by drewski6 on Feb 29, 2024 9:15:42 GMT -5
No matter how we plan it, we will have to rely heavily on our bench in the playoffs. And it'll be a crying shame if we are unprepared in the event of that happening. IDK Pete . I think the plan is to play the all the starters about 38 to 42 minutes a game. I suppose we'll see how Porgy holds up. We have probably one of the poorest benches in the East i already acknowledged that. KY said it best. Something like this When you have 5 starters this good you don't need a bench. I don't have to tell you what i think of that remark. I'm on your side 100% Meanwhile, the Celtics have the best bench +/- in the entire NBA. Second in the east is the Sixers with +1.3/game. Celtics are at +3, more than double. Granted a lot of this is due to playing bench players w starters, but still. Cant completely dismiss this. Hauser is having a spectacular month and Al is one of the best bench bigs in the NBA. Second fewest bench turnovers (per game) in NBA, 3rd in nba in bench 3 pt % |
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Post by drewski6 on Feb 29, 2024 9:29:39 GMT -5
"Our bench is terrible, and bench is really important."
Okay then, how are we 8 games up on second place? Luck?
"But the playoffs?"
Bench minutes go down in playoffs , not up.
"But what if we lose one of our best starters, we may be in trouble"
Sure, but so would anybody. There are no teams that have bench players that can come in and replace a top 2 player when one goes down. If you lose a starter , you know who you look to fill the pts, defense, everything you lost....Your other starters.
We are deep. For scorers we have : Tatum, Porz, Brown, Jrue, White, Al, PP, Hauser....We are 8 deep in guys who can score
For defernders: maybe take away PP, so we are 7 deep in guys who can defend, but maybe add Tilman in so back to 8.
This is how depth works. Its not, if player x goes down, player y replaces him. Depth is determined by team, not having a starting caliber backup at every position. Thats why when someone gets hurt and teams keep winning, its multiple guys stepping up. Other starters start scoring more, defending with more versatility, and sure maybe a bench guy or 2 gets some increased minutes and plays welll - but you dont look exclusively to these bench guys
That being said, I dont have a problem with pointing out things that can derail us. Nobody is , has ever been, nor will ever be "derail proof"
Of course injuries are #1 on list of things that can hurt us, but guess what? They always are. You think Bucks bench will save them if one of top 2 go down? Nuggets? Cavs? If these guys lose a key starter, they are likely toast, and if they arent its not because their #7 man comes in to save the day. Its a team effort. And our team is deep with players who can score and defend.
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