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Post by kyceltic on Feb 27, 2024 14:45:22 GMT -5
An ankle injury to starters Beasley (MIL), DiVincenzo (NYK), Caleb Martin (MIA), Nic Batum (PHI), Nesmith (IND), or Max Strus (CLE) does not doom any of those teams because they have quality depth. We rely so much more from our starting 5 than any of those other teams do and that's a major concern come playoff time. Yeah i know that. We lose any one of the 5 and it's over. Just trying not to be all negative It seems to bother KY and the rest of the cheerleaders, We got rid of all the negatives, when we traded Smart and let Grant walk! Nothing but blue skys from here.
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Post by petey62 on Feb 27, 2024 14:56:33 GMT -5
There wasn't a team in the East looking forward to seeing us last year in the playoffs. We see how that played out. Having a record of 45 - 12 means nothing. The fact that you mention Mazz's winning % tells me you 're not looking at things long-term. And to say we have an "above average bench" also shows you're looking strictly from a 57-game perspective. I'm looking at May and June and facing stiff competition and teams with depth that will challenge our STARTERS. I'm looking at May and June and wondering how in the world will we get away NOT playing our starters over 40 minutes every night because we just can't get Hauser, PP or Kornet to produce quality backup minutes. We have to win a championship this year and I see tons of red flags, despite having a record of 45 - 12. No more eastern conference finalists or NBA finalists. We have to win the Finals this year. This year's team is miles ahead of last year's team. PP and Hauser have been good all year, I don't see why they won't be come playoff time. We could do a lot worse than Mazz, ask about 25 other NBA teams. I'm seeing us and Denver in the finals. There's negatives with every team, I believe there's less with the Celtics! PP and Hauser, this season, cannot compare to the contributions of last year's bench players Brogdon, Grant Williams, Robert Williams, and Blake Griffin. PP and Hauser's play this regular season in no way suggests they'd be contributors in the playoffs. What Brogdon, Grant, Rob and Blake brought, especially defensively, travels in the playoffs. Total reliance on 3-point shooting from PP and Hauser doesn't! You're right about every team having negatives but every team isn't constructed to win the championship THIS SEASON. And when we get into four possible seven game series, unlike you, I don't have a comfort level trusting PP and Hauser logging big time playoff minutes.
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 27, 2024 15:03:36 GMT -5
This year's team is miles ahead of last year's team. PP and Hauser have been good all year, I don't see why they won't be come playoff time. We could do a lot worse than Mazz, ask about 25 other NBA teams. I'm seeing us and Denver in the finals. There's negatives with every team, I believe there's less with the Celtics! PP and Hauser, this season, cannot compare to the contributions of last year's bench players Brogdon, Grant Williams, Robert Williams, and Blake Griffin. PP and Hauser's play this regular season in no way suggests they'd be contributors in the playoffs. What Brogdon, Grant, Rob and Blake brought, especially defensively, travels in the playoffs. Total reliance on 3-point shooting from PP and Hauser doesn't! You're right about every team having negatives but every team isn't constructed to win the championship THIS SEASON. And when we get into four possible seven game series, unlike you, I don't have a comfort level trusting PP and Hauser logging big time playoff minutes. Blake didn't do anything, Brogdon and Rob were hurt as usual, and Grant got Jimmy Butler fired up! You want Brogdon and Rob back instead of Holiday?
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 27, 2024 15:14:15 GMT -5
And again this week the Celtics are number 1 in the power rankings! The only Eastern conference team in the top 5!
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Post by petey62 on Feb 27, 2024 16:41:35 GMT -5
PP and Hauser, this season, cannot compare to the contributions of last year's bench players Brogdon, Grant Williams, Robert Williams, and Blake Griffin. PP and Hauser's play this regular season in no way suggests they'd be contributors in the playoffs. What Brogdon, Grant, Rob and Blake brought, especially defensively, travels in the playoffs. Total reliance on 3-point shooting from PP and Hauser doesn't! You're right about every team having negatives but every team isn't constructed to win the championship THIS SEASON. And when we get into four possible seven game series, unlike you, I don't have a comfort level trusting PP and Hauser logging big time playoff minutes. Blake didn't do anything, Brogdon and Rob were hurt as usual, and Grant got Jimmy Butler fired up! You want Brogdon and Rob back instead of Holiday? I thought we were referring to, what concerns me, our bench production in the playoffs. Brogdon got injured in the MIA series but had two very solid performances in games 1 and 2 (where others failed giving MIA road wins). Rob Williams played every game in the Heat series and outperformed Al Horford, while playing less than 100%. I have no problem with our starting 5 other than I'd like them to develop more chemistry. But we will not win a championship with just an amazing starting 5 because, at times, even they will struggle in the playoffs. That's why I have the red flag about our bench. I sure hope Horford steps things up but I'm not ready to trust PP and Hauser. I hope you're right, but we'll see. That's also why I believe integrating Tillman and developing that chemistry not only with the starting 5 but with a 9-man rotation will better prepare us for the playoffs. Again, for me, anything less than a championship is failure. This team MUST win it all!
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Post by petey62 on Feb 27, 2024 16:49:08 GMT -5
And again this week the Celtics are number 1 in the power rankings! The only Eastern conference team in the top 5! And what does that matter? So, we'll earn the top seed and a home court advantage for the entire playoffs. Been there, done that. Means nothing. I believe we have a championship-caliber team, but I can't wait to see how we perform in the 5 games after tonight. If we're for real, we should win 4 of those next 5 (vs GSW, vs DAL, at CLE, at DEN, at PHX). No slip ups, no let downs! Let's go out and win at least 4 of those next 5 after tonight (not including tonight). And honestly, we need to bury PHI tonight and not escape with a 4-point win. Bury them! It's time to put the rest of the NBA and all those Western Conference teams on notice!
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 27, 2024 16:59:26 GMT -5
Blake didn't do anything, Brogdon and Rob were hurt as usual, and Grant got Jimmy Butler fired up! You want Brogdon and Rob back instead of Holiday? I thought we were referring to, what concerns me, our bench production in the playoffs. Brogdon got injured in the MIA series but had two very solid performances in games 1 and 2 (where others failed giving MIA road wins). Rob Williams played every game in the Heat series and outperformed Al Horford, while playing less than 100%. I have no problem with our starting 5 other than I'd like them to develop more chemistry. But we will not win a championship with just an amazing starting 5 because, at times, even they will struggle in the playoffs. That's why I have the red flag about our bench. I sure hope Horford steps things up but I'm not ready to trust PP and Hauser. I hope you're right, but we'll see. That's also why I believe integrating Tillman and developing that chemistry not only with the starting 5 but with a 9-man rotation will better prepare us for the playoffs. Again, for me, anything less than a championship is failure. This team MUST win it all! I said at the 1st of the season, if we don't win it all, I will consider the season a failure! Tillman could help out against teams like the Heat and Bucks, I'm glad we got him.
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 27, 2024 17:04:43 GMT -5
And again this week the Celtics are number 1 in the power rankings! The only Eastern conference team in the top 5! And what does that matter? So, we'll earn the top seed and a home court advantage for the entire playoffs. Been there, done that. Means nothing. I believe we have a championship-caliber team, but I can't wait to see how we perform in the 5 games after tonight. If we're for real, we should win 4 of those next 5 (vs GSW, vs DAL, at CLE, at DEN, at PHX). No slip ups, no let downs! Let's go out and win at least 4 of those next 5 after tonight (not including tonight). And honestly, we need to bury PHI tonight and not escape with a 4-point win. Bury them! It's time to put the rest of the NBA and all those Western Conference teams on notice! we're number 1 and still complaining, if we were number 10, some would be jumping of the ledge! I expect to win all 5 of those games!
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Post by petey62 on Feb 27, 2024 17:16:40 GMT -5
And what does that matter? So, we'll earn the top seed and a home court advantage for the entire playoffs. Been there, done that. Means nothing. I believe we have a championship-caliber team, but I can't wait to see how we perform in the 5 games after tonight. If we're for real, we should win 4 of those next 5 (vs GSW, vs DAL, at CLE, at DEN, at PHX). No slip ups, no let downs! Let's go out and win at least 4 of those next 5 after tonight (not including tonight). And honestly, we need to bury PHI tonight and not escape with a 4-point win. Bury them! It's time to put the rest of the NBA and all those Western Conference teams on notice! we're number 1 and still complaining, if we were number 10, some would be jumping of the ledge! I expect to win all 5 of those games! Being number 1 right now is an illusion. We got work to do and I'm not sitting on my laurels because we're ranked number 1. Like you said, let's go out and win the next 6 games and I'll believe it then.
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2024 19:45:21 GMT -5
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 27, 2024 22:34:12 GMT -5
Rkarp is one of the more prominent posters on the Pats board linked below, and therefore has no problem 'going up against the oldtimers here'... Nice to see him bring in some fresh perspective, even if it is annoyingly positive at all times, lol... If you can't be positive about this team, you'll never be positive about anything. 45 and 12, best starting 5 in the game, coach with the highest winning % of all time, Tatum top 3 player in the league, Porgie almost unguardable, Brown can put up 30 on you at any time, White and Holiday probably best pair of all around guards in the league, and an above adequate bench. There's not a team in the East looking forward to seeing us in the playoffs! Wow, that is high praise!...I am with you...positively positive!...(except I am holding my breath!)...
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 27, 2024 22:41:28 GMT -5
Rkarp is one of the more prominent posters on the Pats board linked below, and therefore has no problem 'going up against the oldtimers here'... Nice to see him bring in some fresh perspective, even if it is annoyingly positive at all times, lol... How did the head cheerleader go over on the Pats forum this year? Don't see him as a cheerleader...pretty critical of the Pats...goes to games and posts his perspective...heck, he goes to preseason practice...
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 27, 2024 22:43:33 GMT -5
There wasn't a team in the East looking forward to seeing us last year in the playoffs. We see how that played out. Having a record of 45 - 12 means nothing. The fact that you mention Mazz's winning % tells me you 're not looking at things long-term. And to say we have an "above average bench" also shows you're looking strictly from a 57-game perspective. I'm looking at May and June and facing stiff competition and teams with depth that will challenge our STARTERS. I'm looking at May and June and wondering how in the world will we get away NOT playing our starters over 40 minutes every night because we just can't get Hauser, PP or Kornet to produce quality backup minutes. We have to win a championship this year and I see tons of red flags, despite having a record of 45 - 12. No more eastern conference finalists or NBA finalists. We have to win the Finals this year. This year's team is miles ahead of last year's team. PP and Hauser have been good all year, I don't see why they won't be come playoff time. We could do a lot worse than Mazz, ask about 25 other NBA teams. I'm seeing us and Denver in the finals. There's negatives with every team, I believe there's less with the Celtics! Yeah, agree...should be Celts and Denver in the finals...but lots of ball to play...Denver would be hecka tough...
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 27, 2024 22:45:44 GMT -5
This year's team is miles ahead of last year's team. PP and Hauser have been good all year, I don't see why they won't be come playoff time. We could do a lot worse than Mazz, ask about 25 other NBA teams. I'm seeing us and Denver in the finals. There's negatives with every team, I believe there's less with the Celtics! PP and Hauser, this season, cannot compare to the contributions of last year's bench players Brogdon, Grant Williams, Robert Williams, and Blake Griffin. PP and Hauser's play this regular season in no way suggests they'd be contributors in the playoffs. What Brogdon, Grant, Rob and Blake brought, especially defensively, travels in the playoffs. Total reliance on 3-point shooting from PP and Hauser doesn't! You're right about every team having negatives but every team isn't constructed to win the championship THIS SEASON. And when we get into four possible seven game series, unlike you, I don't have a comfort level trusting PP and Hauser logging big time playoff minutes. Crap, now you are depressing me...and as you know, I value your opinion...errr....
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 27, 2024 22:47:16 GMT -5
PP and Hauser, this season, cannot compare to the contributions of last year's bench players Brogdon, Grant Williams, Robert Williams, and Blake Griffin. PP and Hauser's play this regular season in no way suggests they'd be contributors in the playoffs. What Brogdon, Grant, Rob and Blake brought, especially defensively, travels in the playoffs. Total reliance on 3-point shooting from PP and Hauser doesn't! You're right about every team having negatives but every team isn't constructed to win the championship THIS SEASON. And when we get into four possible seven game series, unlike you, I don't have a comfort level trusting PP and Hauser logging big time playoff minutes. Blake didn't do anything, Brogdon and Rob were hurt as usual, and Grant got Jimmy Butler fired up! You want Brogdon and Rob back instead of Holiday? Thanks for getting me back to my happy place!...Well, except I think Smart is better than Holiday, but that Holiday works better for us because he does not have to be the alpha...that sort of messed with Jaylen and Jason's stature/growth...
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Post by drewski6 on Feb 28, 2024 11:19:09 GMT -5
Blake didn't do anything, Brogdon and Rob were hurt as usual, and Grant got Jimmy Butler fired up! You want Brogdon and Rob back instead of Holiday? I thought we were referring to, what concerns me, our bench production in the playoffs. Brogdon got injured in the MIA series but had two very solid performances in games 1 and 2 (where others failed giving MIA road wins). Rob Williams played every game in the Heat series and outperformed Al Horford, while playing less than 100%. I have no problem with our starting 5 other than I'd like them to develop more chemistry. But we will not win a championship with just an amazing starting 5 because, at times, even they will struggle in the playoffs. That's why I have the red flag about our bench. I sure hope Horford steps things up but I'm not ready to trust PP and Hauser. I hope you're right, but we'll see. That's also why I believe integrating Tillman and developing that chemistry not only with the starting 5 but with a 9-man rotation will better prepare us for the playoffs. Again, for me, anything less than a championship is failure. This team MUST win it all! Brogdon, whole series, was a negative (averaged out). You want to compare benches to last year, I think its better to compare to what Brogdon was not what he would have been if healthy. Al played like crap, and I dont see that happening again. He also wasnt a bench player last season. Last years bench: RWill (who took too many minutes away from DWhite), a hurt Brogdon, and Grant. PP didnt play much, neither really did Hauser. This years bench: Horford, PP, Hauser. Pritch is better than a hurt Brogdon, and Al is better than RWill. You'll also see a lot more DWhite. Tatum 24 > Tatum 23 Brown 24 > Brown 23 JRue = Smart Porgie > 23 starter Al White 24 > White 23 + Rwill combo (as mentioned too much RWill cuz it supressed Whites mins) We ran 6 starters last year because we switched back to double big , which has held this team back for years. So White and RWill kind of combined Al > Rwill 23 (the portion of his minutes played off the bench) PP > Hurt Brogdon Grant 23 (he played well) > Hauser. Thats one. Cuz Grant , while not a great player, played very well in that series so Ill give you that. But thats not enough to overcome the addition of Porz and more minutes for White and Mazz growing into himself. In 23 he let the players talk him into playing Rwill too much In 22 the double big killed us against GSW We're set up better this year. Better transition defense, better 3 pt defense, better offensive pace, less turnovers and its no secret as to why....We arent going to play 2 centers nearly as often. And if you are just going to fall back to PP and Hauser arent to be trusted because theyve never contributed on a playoff run before....Do you know the % of quality playoff performers who had a first year in playoff rotation? Its 100%. Every single player who has ever contributed in the playoffs has had "the first year where they contributed in the playoffs" You say you wil focus on next few games, but I dont see anything PP and Huaser can do in those games to get you off the "never been relied on in playoffs". Not to imply it isnt a valid reason for concern, but again.....How they did this year is more indicative of if they are playoff ready than the fact that they have small playoff samples. Would you bench a rookie of the year in the playoffs because of lack of playoff experience? If playoff experience was the driver of who should get playoff minutes, nobody would ever play in the playoffs because theyd never get a chance to break in.
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 12:22:03 GMT -5
Comparing this years team to last years is like comparing apples to oranges.
We are 6 deep .5 good solid starters. 2 so so players off the bench Hauser and PP do well against some teams some nights.
Mostly in garbage time but Hauser has made some progress i agree PP not so much that i see he still couldn't guard the Stature of Liberty.
When you think this Tillman guy is going to play? Maybe were saving him for next year?
Pete said it best. One twisted ankle and it's going to be tough in the playoffs.
Stevens in effect did nothing at the trade deadline to bolster the bench.
Maybe no one noticed We got 7 pts in 48 minutes from Hauser PP and Kornet last night against a team missing their key player and best defensive one. This is OK?
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Post by Admin on Feb 28, 2024 12:38:17 GMT -5
Mitch just announced his retirement from the Senate come November ...
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Post by cole on Feb 28, 2024 13:13:12 GMT -5
Mitch just announced his retirement from the Senate come November ... He's shot but also zero chance for reelection
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 28, 2024 13:14:52 GMT -5
Comparing this years team to last years is like comparing apples to oranges. We are 6 deep .5 good solid starters. 2 so so players off the bench Hauser and PP do well against some teams some nights. Mostly in garbage time but Hauser has made some progress i agree PP not so much that i see he still couldn't guard the Stature of Liberty. When you think this Tillman guy is going to play? Maybe were saving him for next year? Pete said it best. One twisted ankle and it's going to be tough in the playoffs. Stevens in effect did nothing at the trade deadline to bolster the bench. Maybe no one noticed We got 7 pts in 48 minutes from Hauser PP and Kornet last night against a team missing their key player and best defensive one. This is OK? When our starters outscore their starters 102 to 54, we don't need much from our bench!
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Post by Admin on Feb 28, 2024 13:19:36 GMT -5
Mitch just announced his retirement from the Senate come November ... He's shot but also zero chance for reelection
As much as I'm glad to see him go, he was the last "border wall" trying to slow down the MAGA movement in the Senate. His retirement could mean moar MAGA in the Senate and less bipartisanship.
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 13:32:18 GMT -5
He's shot but also zero chance for reelection
As much as I'm glad to see him go, he was the last "border wall" trying to slow down the MAGA movement in the Senate. His retirement could mean moar MAGA in the Senate and less bipartisanship.
He was the only one holding what was left of the party together. Now we'll see more backstabbing the Republican Party will Implode if it already hasn't happened. In other news Trump now says he doesn't have 400 mil but maybe he can come up with 100 mil if he is allowed to sell his golf courses in the US and Scotland.
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 13:34:06 GMT -5
Comparing this years team to last years is like comparing apples to oranges. We are 6 deep .5 good solid starters. 2 so so players off the bench Hauser and PP do well against some teams some nights. Mostly in garbage time but Hauser has made some progress i agree PP not so much that i see he still couldn't guard the Stature of Liberty. When you think this Tillman guy is going to play? Maybe were saving him for next year? Pete said it best. One twisted ankle and it's going to be tough in the playoffs. Stevens in effect did nothing at the trade deadline to bolster the bench. Maybe no one noticed We got 7 pts in 48 minutes from Hauser PP and Kornet last night against a team missing their key player and best defensive one. This is OK? When our starters outscore their starters 102 to 54, we don't need much from our bench! nah we don't and the 76ers don't need their best player Embiid either.
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 28, 2024 13:39:56 GMT -5
Mitch just announced his retirement from the Senate come November ... He's shot but also zero chance for reelection He's not running for reelection . He can hardly stand up leaning against the podium.
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 28, 2024 13:47:07 GMT -5
When our starters outscore their starters 102 to 54, we don't need much from our bench! nah we don't and the 76ers don't need their best player Embiid either. We can only play what's on the floor against us!
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