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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2024 11:29:44 GMT -5
If Brad would let me pick for him, I'm taking Justin Edwards from Kentucky with my first pick, and with the last pick I'm taking Chomche, on potential alone!! Kentucky guys tend to get better when they get away from coach Cal!
Larsson is better than Edwards ... Just saying.
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2024 11:43:12 GMT -5
Look at Larsson compared to Scheierman ... why waste #30 for him when you could get Tyler Smith there and Larsson w/ #54?
Of course I want Chomche in rd 2 but Larsson may have a higher ceiling than Scheierman.
I like both Mogbo & Bona ... wish we had 3 2nd rd picks!
Really good comp. Wonder why one is late first round, and one is late second. How do you feel about the French kid?
Ajinca?
Behind Bridges but ahead of Edwards.
I looked at Ajinca and Christi as pure SG's ... Christi is a better shooter but a lightweight @ 190lbs and I'd take Larsson over both. The only negative I have found on Larsson is a need to get his shot off quicker given NBA superior defenders. Ajinca's alright, I just don't see a higher ceiling for him compared to others but I could be wrong.
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 26, 2024 12:01:16 GMT -5
Just read an article. (NESN) They said these guys are the targets: Scheierman Ighodaro Mogbo Bona I like the kid from Duke, but Scheireman makes a lot of sense because he can replace Hauser after next year. Chomche in the second round?? Can't wait, should be fun!
Look at Larsson compared to Scheierman ... why waste #30 for him when you could get Tyler Smith there and Larsson w/ #54?
Of course I want Chomche in rd 2 but Larsson may have a higher ceiling than Scheierman.
I like both Mogbo & Bona ... wish we had 3 2nd rd picks!
Because Scheierman was unstoppable in teh big east for 3 years, which was one of the best conferences during that span. Larsson had one good shooting yr (his sr year) after struggling for his 3 previous years in a weaker conference. You may be onto something w Larsson, but IMO you are underrating Scheierman. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2024 12:19:47 GMT -5
Look at Larsson compared to Scheierman ... why waste #30 for him when you could get Tyler Smith there and Larsson w/ #54?
Of course I want Chomche in rd 2 but Larsson may have a higher ceiling than Scheierman.
I like both Mogbo & Bona ... wish we had 3 2nd rd picks!
Because Scheierman was unstoppable in teh big east for 3 years, which was one of the best conferences during that span. Larsson had one good shooting yr (his sr year) after struggling for his 3 previous years in a weaker conference. You may be onto something w Larsson, but IMO you are underrating Scheierman.
I just don't see the need for an NBA ready shooter with all the shooters we have now. His ceiling is limited while there are other guys in round 2 that do the same thing w/ potentially higher ceilings. I'm sure Brad can identify those bargains and save #30 for a better option.
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 26, 2024 12:24:53 GMT -5
Look at Larsson compared to Scheierman ... why waste #30 for him when you could get Tyler Smith there and Larsson w/ #54?
Of course I want Chomche in rd 2 but Larsson may have a higher ceiling than Scheierman.
I like both Mogbo & Bona ... wish we had 3 2nd rd picks!
Because Scheierman was unstoppable in teh big east for 3 years, which was one of the best conferences during that span. Larsson had one good shooting yr (his sr year) after struggling for his 3 previous years in a weaker conference. You may be onto something w Larsson, but IMO you are underrating Scheierman. But to be clear, Im not anything close to Scheierman or bust and I also dont think celtics go there. Especially with how far Hauser's defense has gone. I just wouldnt hate it. For most guys, i have to look at stats and "deep dive" but I watch sooo much big east ball. Scheierman Ive seen it with my own eyes, and maybe that makes me biased, but I remember when Kalkbrenner got hurt and Scheierman was triple teamed and he was still keeping them in games vs very good big east. Creighton , Uconn, Marquette, my friars, Xavier, even Seton....these are good programs and Scheierman was a pain in the butt in the conference. Ive seen him take over games against very good teams. Just unstoppable. Jump shot after jump shot. Swish after swish. Triple teamed. Step back 3s. 3s from the logo. But he's slow. |
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 26, 2024 12:27:57 GMT -5
Because Scheierman was unstoppable in teh big east for 3 years, which was one of the best conferences during that span. Larsson had one good shooting yr (his sr year) after struggling for his 3 previous years in a weaker conference. You may be onto something w Larsson, but IMO you are underrating Scheierman.
I just don't see the need for an NBA ready shooter with all the shooters we have now. His ceiling is limited while there are other guys in round 2 that do the same thing w/ potentially higher ceilings. I'm sure Brad can identify those bargains and save #30 for a better option.
I dont disagree. It sounds like the difference between us is you would be disappointed w Scheierman and I would be okay (because Ive seen him destroy teams with my eyes). But I agree that his potential is Hauser w less defense. Scheierman does have more offensive versatility than Hauser though. Hes more than an outside shooter. He also uses his size against smaller defenders and is wet from midrange. hes got more bully ball in him than Hauser. But Hauser was too good in the finals to bench now. Even his D is night/day compared to where it was. |
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 26, 2024 12:32:50 GMT -5
scheierman is like a very poor mans luka. He drops that shoulder. He knows how to use his body and his footwork to get a shot off. Hes also wet. He also handles very well for someone his size and is never out of control. He can pass and rebound. Hes also slow.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jun 26, 2024 13:05:01 GMT -5
My top Celtics targets are:
Edey
Shead
Dunn
Bona
Mogbo
Chomche
Dadiet
Chomche and Dadiet are at the bottom because they are not being judged on potential but where they are today.
Tyler Smith to me is interesting but I think he will never be a good enough defender or rebounder.
I could be wrong.
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2024 13:11:30 GMT -5
scheierman is like a very poor mans luka. He drops that shoulder. He knows how to use his body and his footwork to get a shot off. Hes also wet. He also handles very well for someone his size and is never out of control. He can pass and rebound. Hes also slow.
Ok he'd fit now but AGAIN I ask ... Why do we need him or any NBA ready draftee now? They won't get much if any playing time so why draft him. I'm not suggesting I'd be pissed if Brad took him as long as we didn't pass on a guy like Smith who will be much moar help in a few yrs than Scheierman unless we let Hauser walk and Peterson doesn't step up. Drafts are always gonna have shooters so we can get one when we have to. I just prefer the potential HR with some of these other prospects.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 26, 2024 13:16:29 GMT -5
scheierman is like a very poor mans luka. He drops that shoulder. He knows how to use his body and his footwork to get a shot off. Hes also wet. He also handles very well for someone his size and is never out of control. He can pass and rebound. Hes also slow.
Ok he'd fit now but AGAIN I ask ... Why do we need him or any NBA ready draftee now? They won't get much if any playing time so why draft him. I'm not suggesting I'd be pissed if Brad took him as long as we didn't pass on a guy like Smith who will be much moar help in a few yrs than Scheierman unless we let Hauser walk and Peterson doesn't step up. Drafts are always gonna have shooters so we can get one when we have to. I just prefer the potential HR with some of these other prospects.
I read because Hauser will want to get paid next year, and we won't be able to afford him. Also, one more year of Al. |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 26, 2024 13:17:20 GMT -5
Really good comp. Wonder why one is late first round, and one is late second. How do you feel about the French kid?
Ajinca?
Behind Bridges but ahead of Edwards.
I looked at Ajinca and Christi as pure SG's ... Christi is a better shooter but a lightweight @ 190lbs and I'd take Larsson over both. The only negative I have found on Larsson is a need to get his shot off quicker given NBA superior defenders. Ajinca's alright, I just don't see a higher ceiling for him compared to others but I could be wrong.
No, I was referring to Dadiet. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2024 13:22:25 GMT -5
Ajinca?
Behind Bridges but ahead of Edwards.
I looked at Ajinca and Christi as pure SG's ... Christi is a better shooter but a lightweight @ 190lbs and I'd take Larsson over both. The only negative I have found on Larsson is a need to get his shot off quicker given NBA superior defenders. Ajinca's alright, I just don't see a higher ceiling for him compared to others but I could be wrong.
No, I was referring to Dadiet.
Love Dadiet ... even if he's taken at #30 over Smith!
My top 5 are 1) Smith 2) Dadiet 3) Chomche 4) Bridges 5) Mogbo ... or Bona
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Post by DaCeltics on Jun 26, 2024 13:34:51 GMT -5
Adem Bona gives me Ben Wallace vibes.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 26, 2024 13:58:16 GMT -5
How would you guys feel about trading 30 and 55 to IND for 36, 50 and 51?
Just a thought
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 26, 2024 14:01:11 GMT -5
scheierman is like a very poor mans luka. He drops that shoulder. He knows how to use his body and his footwork to get a shot off. Hes also wet. He also handles very well for someone his size and is never out of control. He can pass and rebound. Hes also slow.
Ok he'd fit now but AGAIN I ask ... Why do we need him or any NBA ready draftee now? They won't get much if any playing time so why draft him. I'm not suggesting I'd be pissed if Brad took him as long as we didn't pass on a guy like Smith who will be much moar help in a few yrs than Scheierman unless we let Hauser walk and Peterson doesn't step up. Drafts are always gonna have shooters so we can get one when we have to. I just prefer the potential HR with some of these other prospects.
As Ive said previously, we are one forward injury away from starting Hauser and then who is your depth behind him? We are one guard injury away from starting PP (yuck) and who is your depth behind him? I think we can use some real NBA depth. I also think you are higher on guys like Q, Pederson, Springer than I am. Theres always the end of roster carousel but those guys dont get serious minutes. |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 26, 2024 14:02:32 GMT -5
The Celtics talks have centered around the No. 30 pick, the final pick of the night on Wednesday but Boston has been shopping that selection in hopes of picking up additional draft compensation per a source. Boston’s front office is attempting to thread the needle between infusing some young talent into the franchise and adding more draft capital to the cupboard to add ammo for future moves. – via Booth Newspapers
Draft, Trade, Boston Celtics
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 26, 2024 14:04:05 GMT -5
Bob Manning: Wow. This is also something from Brad Stevens on Russillo: “Kristaps Porzingis, after his surgery, we don’t know exactly when he’ll be back, but he’ll probably miss at least the very start of the season. So that’ll be a great opportunity for us to do things different and have to find different solutions.” – via Twitter RealBobManning
Top Rumors, Brad Stevens, Injuries, Kristaps Porzingis, Boston Celtics
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2024 14:12:53 GMT -5
How would you guys feel about trading 30 and 55 to IND for 36, 50 and 51? Just a thought
Good idea to pick up a 3rd pick but I'm afraid that the guys I'm interested in will be gone before #50 & #51.
Portland might be better > #30 & #54 for #34 & #40 ... That could gets us Dadiet & Chomche.
Would like another pick for sure to grab either Bridges or Mogbo (if still around) Bona also fits there.
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 26, 2024 14:13:55 GMT -5
Ok he'd fit now but AGAIN I ask ... Why do we need him or any NBA ready draftee now? They won't get much if any playing time so why draft him. I'm not suggesting I'd be pissed if Brad took him as long as we didn't pass on a guy like Smith who will be much moar help in a few yrs than Scheierman unless we let Hauser walk and Peterson doesn't step up. Drafts are always gonna have shooters so we can get one when we have to. I just prefer the potential HR with some of these other prospects.
As Ive said previously, we are one forward injury away from starting Hauser and then who is your depth behind him? We are one guard injury away from starting PP (yuck) and who is your depth behind him? I think we can use some real NBA depth. I also think you are higher on guys like Q, Pederson, Springer than I am. Theres always the end of roster carousel but those guys dont get serious minutes. This is just answering your question on what the point would be of adding someone more NBA ready. I want to clarify that I dont think they'll do it and I wont be pissed if they dont. I still think the most likely outcome is a trade back, followed by another trade back, followed by 2 picks in the 50s. I think they are going to make a trade eventually. One of the ones Ive talked about before. Like 2 second rounds picks and springer for proven NBA good depth. Like Gordon or Craig or someone like that. Or maybe even a center who can shoot. |
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 26, 2024 14:25:26 GMT -5
Adem Bona gives me Ben Wallace vibes. or Biyombo |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 26, 2024 14:47:54 GMT -5
This is just answering your question on what the point would be of adding someone more NBA ready. I want to clarify that I dont think they'll do it and I wont be pissed if they dont. I still think the most likely outcome is a trade back, followed by another trade back, followed by 2 picks in the 50s. I think they are going to make a trade eventually. One of the ones Ive talked about before. Like 2 second rounds picks and springer for proven NBA good depth. Like Gordon or Craig or someone like that. Or maybe even a center who can shoot.
That's where VM's come in ...PGs: Beverley, K Dunn, M Flynn, Ish Smith etc ... Fs: Oubre, Marshall, Craig, Fontecchio etc. ... PFs: Watford, Achiuwa, Bol Bol ... C's: Drummond, Jalen Smith, Eubanks, Len, Bamba! and there's moar ...
oooh, would I love Oubre!! |
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2024 14:51:31 GMT -5
So, VMs to 2-3 of above: Dunn, Oubre & Bamba and 2-3 Draftees: Dadiet, Chomche & Bridges (all 2-ways)
... that leaves 12 roster spots:
Jrue
White
Brown
Tatum
Porgy
Horford
Hauser
Pritchard
Queta
Walsh
Springer
Tillman or Kornet (I think we lose one)
Peterson (2-way if we don't get 3 draftees)
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 26, 2024 14:51:53 GMT -5
This is just answering your question on what the point would be of adding someone more NBA ready. I want to clarify that I dont think they'll do it and I wont be pissed if they dont. I still think the most likely outcome is a trade back, followed by another trade back, followed by 2 picks in the 50s. I think they are going to make a trade eventually. One of the ones Ive talked about before. Like 2 second rounds picks and springer for proven NBA good depth. Like Gordon or Craig or someone like that. Or maybe even a center who can shoot.
That's where VM's come in ...PGs: Beverley, K Dunn, M Flynn, Ish Smith etc ... Fs: Oubre, Marshall, Craig, Fontecchio etc. ... PFs: Watford, Achiuwa, Bol Bol ... C's: Drummond, Jalen Smith, Eubanks, Len, Bamba! and there's moar ...
Sure. |
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Post by thejuice on Jun 26, 2024 14:59:49 GMT -5
I think Brad is looking at it like you and is thinking about the future more so than the present because we're already so good. Im with Cab because I think we should go all in on defending the title and outside of KP we had good injury luck last year. We're one guard injury away from starting Pritch and then our depth behind him looks a bit murky. We're one forward injury away from starting Hauser, and if we do, the depth behind him looks a bit murky. We're one Porz injury away from starting Horford and then the depth behind him would look okay if we keep Tillman but still not spectacular. So I wouldnt mind guys who are more NBA ready like a Scheierman for example. But that wasnt the question - the question was how do i think brad ranks him, and I think hes looking at it like you - and I think he's going to chase a raw guy who will need a couple years w upside. yea. Give me a seasoned college player. But. With two picks. I can see Brad going for the project and the nba ready guy. the preferred outcome, imo |
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Post by thejuice on Jun 26, 2024 15:03:54 GMT -5
How would you guys feel about trading 30 and 55 to IND for 36, 50 and 51? Just a thought id be all over that if i were them. really dont see much of a difference (unless someone unexpected falls) at 30 vs 36 |
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