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Post by kdp59 on Jun 4, 2024 17:19:14 GMT -5
At this point I'll take Morris over Hayward, if Hayward couldn't play for OKC, I don't see how he could play for the Celtics! He hasn't really been viable since the ankle imo. I believe you are an OKC fan also, so I will throw this one at you. They are a team that could become the Celtics greatest threat IF they add the right players, IMO. They obviously need a big man with some bulk and a steady bench 3 point shooter, form my perspective. While rumor's are they are going to throw some or all of that $30M plus in Cap space at Hartenstein as a FA, I have another move that may make them even better next year. OKC sends J. Giddy and his expiring *M rookie deal along with the #12 pick and one of their 100 ( I kid) future first round picks to ATLANTA for C. Capela ( $22M -expiring) and B. Bogdanovich ($17M plus 3 more years). Fixes both their issues and since they have over $30M in cap space they do that deal before the draft even. Capela, Holgrem, J. Williams, Dort and SGA allow them to compete in the bigger West playoffs and with a bench led by the shooting of Bogdanovich along with C. Wallace, I. Joe/ Wiggins and either K Wiliams or J. Williams off the bench they are deep then also. I think this gives OKC more bang for their $30M bucks than just signing Hartenstein, Atlanta was a 36 win team last year and right now are second apron team, they need to get rid of salary and try to do a reboot UNDER the tax line for a year or two now. This trade drops them under the tax line and they get a new back court mate to pair with Young. What about Murray you ask? I have him heading back to SA ( rumors are out there and Murray even said he'd love to play for Pop again), SA sends back K Johnson and M. Braham along with Atlanta getting back their own first round picks in 2025 and 2027 in the deal. Atlanta trades Capela ( replaced with #1 over all pick in the draft) Murray replaced with Giddy and Braham Bogdanovich replaced with Johnson they also get #12 this year two additional firsts ( both their own) most importantly they drop UNDER the tax line, while being no worst in wins/losses than this season. SA gets a PG to play with Wemby in his second year and with two additional top 10 draft picks plus the full MLE they can a vet caliper starting Wing/SF type and two more young picks to throw onto the bench. Trying to make a run to get into the playoffs in Wembys second year should be their goal and that may allow them to sneak in |
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 5, 2024 8:42:08 GMT -5
He hasn't really been viable since the ankle imo. I believe you are an OKC fan also, so I will throw this one at you. They are a team that could become the Celtics greatest threat IF they add the right players, IMO. They obviously need a big man with some bulk and a steady bench 3 point shooter, form my perspective. While rumor's are they are going to throw some or all of that $30M plus in Cap space at Hartenstein as a FA, I have another move that may make them even better next year. OKC sends J. Giddy and his expiring *M rookie deal along with the #12 pick and one of their 100 ( I kid) future first round picks to ATLANTA for C. Capela ( $22M -expiring) and B. Bogdanovich ($17M plus 3 more years). Fixes both their issues and since they have over $30M in cap space they do that deal before the draft even. Capela, Holgrem, J. Williams, Dort and SGA allow them to compete in the bigger West playoffs and with a bench led by the shooting of Bogdanovich along with C. Wallace, I. Joe/ Wiggins and either K Wiliams or J. Williams off the bench they are deep then also. I think this gives OKC more bang for their $30M bucks than just signing Hartenstein, Atlanta was a 36 win team last year and right now are second apron team, they need to get rid of salary and try to do a reboot UNDER the tax line for a year or two now. This trade drops them under the tax line and they get a new back court mate to pair with Young. What about Murray you ask? I have him heading back to SA ( rumors are out there and Murray even said he'd love to play for Pop again), SA sends back K Johnson and M. Braham along with Atlanta getting back their own first round picks in 2025 and 2027 in the deal. Atlanta trades Capela ( replaced with #1 over all pick in the draft) Murray replaced with Giddy and Braham Bogdanovich replaced with Johnson they also get #12 this year two additional firsts ( both their own) most importantly they drop UNDER the tax line, while being no worst in wins/losses than this season. SA gets a PG to play with Wemby in his second year and with two additional top 10 draft picks plus the full MLE they can a vet caliper starting Wing/SF type and two more young picks to throw onto the bench. Trying to make a run to get into the playoffs in Wembys second year should be their goal and that may allow them to sneak in Capela has had his minutes decrease each of the last 6 years, and now starts -but doesnt really get starter minutes. Theyve tried to trade him in the past, and are most likely going to this offseason. Hes still okay, but his trade value at 1yr @ 22m isnt great. Bogdan is a nice get, especially on a contract with term. But OKC is giving up way too much here. Why give up on Giddey, pick #12 for an average Capela when Centers can be had cheaper? I think you can get Capela for a future first. |
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 5, 2024 8:44:59 GMT -5
craftednba.com/players/chet-holmgrenChet is in the 99th percentile in rim defense frequency, 96th percentile in in rim defense quality, and 99th percentile in blocks. You think they need a Center?
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 5, 2024 9:08:21 GMT -5
If Im OKC, Im going for one of: PG, Siakam, OG, DeRozan
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Post by kyceltic on Jun 5, 2024 16:24:47 GMT -5
I believe you are an OKC fan also, so I will throw this one at you. They are a team that could become the Celtics greatest threat IF they add the right players, IMO. They obviously need a big man with some bulk and a steady bench 3 point shooter, form my perspective. While rumor's are they are going to throw some or all of that $30M plus in Cap space at Hartenstein as a FA, I have another move that may make them even better next year. OKC sends J. Giddy and his expiring *M rookie deal along with the #12 pick and one of their 100 ( I kid) future first round picks to ATLANTA for C. Capela ( $22M -expiring) and B. Bogdanovich ($17M plus 3 more years). Fixes both their issues and since they have over $30M in cap space they do that deal before the draft even. Capela, Holgrem, J. Williams, Dort and SGA allow them to compete in the bigger West playoffs and with a bench led by the shooting of Bogdanovich along with C. Wallace, I. Joe/ Wiggins and either K Wiliams or J. Williams off the bench they are deep then also. I think this gives OKC more bang for their $30M bucks than just signing Hartenstein, Atlanta was a 36 win team last year and right now are second apron team, they need to get rid of salary and try to do a reboot UNDER the tax line for a year or two now. This trade drops them under the tax line and they get a new back court mate to pair with Young. What about Murray you ask? I have him heading back to SA ( rumors are out there and Murray even said he'd love to play for Pop again), SA sends back K Johnson and M. Braham along with Atlanta getting back their own first round picks in 2025 and 2027 in the deal. Atlanta trades Capela ( replaced with #1 over all pick in the draft) Murray replaced with Giddy and Braham Bogdanovich replaced with Johnson they also get #12 this year two additional firsts ( both their own) most importantly they drop UNDER the tax line, while being no worst in wins/losses than this season. SA gets a PG to play with Wemby in his second year and with two additional top 10 draft picks plus the full MLE they can a vet caliper starting Wing/SF type and two more young picks to throw onto the bench. Trying to make a run to get into the playoffs in Wembys second year should be their goal and that may allow them to sneak in Capela has had his minutes decrease each of the last 6 years, and now starts -but doesnt really get starter minutes. Theyve tried to trade him in the past, and are most likely going to this offseason. Hes still okay, but his trade value at 1yr @ 22m isnt great. Bogdan is a nice get, especially on a contract with term. But OKC is giving up way too much here. Why give up on Giddey, pick #12 for an average Capela when Centers can be had cheaper? I think you can get Capela for a future first. I think they gave up on Giddey during the playoffs. |
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 6, 2024 6:46:58 GMT -5
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 6, 2024 7:59:49 GMT -5
Capela has had his minutes decrease each of the last 6 years, and now starts -but doesnt really get starter minutes. Theyve tried to trade him in the past, and are most likely going to this offseason. Hes still okay, but his trade value at 1yr @ 22m isnt great. Bogdan is a nice get, especially on a contract with term. But OKC is giving up way too much here. Why give up on Giddey, pick #12 for an average Capela when Centers can be had cheaper? I think you can get Capela for a future first. I think they gave up on Giddey during the playoffs. Its the lottery pick for a package headlined by an average C is mostly why Im thinking the package is too much. Also, blowing your cap room on these guys when theres a good free agent class. And Chet was very good at defending the rim this year at C. |
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 6, 2024 8:08:30 GMT -5
But Chet was a borderline elite defensive C this year. You want to slow them down and take Chet out of the position that he succeeded in? Speed kills, why do you think the Mavs sliced through TWolves? And why settle for Bogdan when you can get a really good FA? What if they left Chet at C and added Siakam for size at PF. Keeping Chet at C (where he was great). If you use your 37M of cap room for Siakam, you may still be able to get Hartenstein with MLE PG: SGA SG: Dort SF: Jaylen, Williams PF: Siakam C: Chet Bench: Isaia Joe, Aaron Williams, Giddey, Hartenstein |
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 6, 2024 8:09:37 GMT -5
And you still have the #12 pick, which you could use on Devin Carter (and then Trade Giddey for cap room to help bring in Siakam and Hartenstein)
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 6, 2024 16:37:20 GMT -5
Because the Knicks want to keep Hartenstien but can only offer him around $18M next year with early bird rights. so the MLE won't get it done.
Maybe Stinky P is the play for them, however then they have the same problem as the Knicks one. While they have a tad over $35M in cap space to sign someone, Indy can pay Siakam more to keep him with his full bird rights.
the #12 pick ( and the other glut of first round picks they have) are mostly now trade fodder to get upgrades on their roster ( and replace other picks on the roster who are lesser players). OKC 's play this year has sped up their timeline and by all accounts they are looking for higher quality players then #12 picks to fill out that roster.
at least in my opinion.
now my idea may be lousy, but I do take into account real cap issues when trying to acquire players or trade for them.
so to repeat for them to get Siakam he will have to take LESS money to play there and to get Hartenstein ( rumored to be a target) they will have to pay more than the $18M NY can offer him.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 6, 2024 16:39:53 GMT -5
OK I side tracked this thread as it was about the draft.
back to it then.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 9, 2024 7:57:38 GMT -5
all 3 mocks drafts were updated on 6-7 now.
here is my combined rankings between 20-40 revised
20 PF Trisan da Silva 6-8 220 23 Colorado
21 C Zach Edey 7-4 300 22 Purdue
22 PG Carlton Carrington 6-5 195 18 Pittsburgh
23 PG Tyler Kolek 6-2 195 23 Marquette
24 SG Johnny Furphy 6-8 200 19 Kansas
25 PF/C Kyle Filipowski 6-11 230 20 Duke
26 SF/SG Terrence Shannon 6-6 225 23 Illinois
27 SF Jaylon Tyson 6-7 215 21 California
28 PF Tyler Smith 6-9 225 19 G-League
29 PF/C DaRon Holmes 6-9 235 21 Dayton
30 PF Pacome Dadiet 6-8 210 18 Int
31 SF Bobi Klintman 6-9 210 21 Int
32 SF Ryan Dunn 6-7 216 21 Virginia
33 SG Baylor Scheierman 6-6 200 23 Ceighton
34 SF/SG Kevin McCullar 6-6 210 23 Kansas
35 SG Trentyn Flowers 6-8 180 19
36 SF Nikola Durisic 6-6 209 20 Int
37 PG KJ Simpson 6-1 190 21 Colorado
38 PF/C PJ Hall 6-9 240 22 Clemson
39 SG Cam Christie 6-5 190 18 Minnesota
40 SF Dillon Jones 6-6 235 22 Weber St
While Filipowski and Holmes still fall into that area as bigs, keep an eye on both Dadiet and especially Scheierman as possible picks at 30.
both seem to be fits with what Mazz like to do and if Horford come back for a final season, then they may pass on a big there.
50 PG Juan Nunez 6-3 180 19 Int
51 PG Ajay Mitchell 6-4 195 21 UC-Santa Barbara
52 SF Pelle Larsson 6-6 212 23 Arizona
53 PF Enrique Freeman 6-7 206 23 Akron
54 SG Bronny James 6-2 210 19 USC
55 SF Jaylen Wells 6-7 210 20 Washington St
56 SF Melvin Ajinca 6-7 200 19 Int
57 PG Jamal Shead 6-0 200 21 Houston
58 C Oso Ighodaro 6-10 235 21 Marquette
59 PF/C Isaac Jones 6-8 235 23 Washington St
there could be some developmental type bigs in the second round to snag for a two way deal in that case, in the above rankings
also
C N'Faly Dante 6-11 230 22 Oregon
PF Izan Almansa 6-10 220 19 Int
who just missed the rankings
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 9, 2024 8:02:49 GMT -5
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 19, 2024 7:24:13 GMT -5
my most recent rankings with all mocks updated this week:
Rank Pos Player Hgt Wgt Age School
1 SF Zaccharie Riacher 6-8 200 19 Int
2 C Alexandre Sarr 7-0 225 19 Int
3 SG/PG Reed Sheppard 6-2 185 19 Kentucky
4 SG Stephon Castle 6-6 215 19 Uconn
5 SF Matas Buzelis 6-9 210 19 Int
6 C Donovan Clingan 7-2 280 20 Uconn
7 SF Cody Williams 6-7 180 19 Colorado
8 PF Tidjane Salaun 6-9 210 18 Int
9 SG Dalton Knecht 6-6 210 23 Tennessee
10 PG/SG Devin Carter 6-3 195 22 Providence
11 SF Ron Holland 6-7 205 18 G-League
12 SG Ja'Kobe Walter 6-5 200 19 Baylor
13 PG Nikola Topic 6-6 200 18 Int
14 PF Trisan da Silva 6-8 220 23 Colorado
15 PG Rob Dillingham 6-2 175 19 Kentucky
16 PG Jared McCain 6-2 205 20 Duke
17 C Zach Edey 7-4 300 22 Purdue
18 C Kel'el Ware 7-0 230 20 Indiana
19 PG Carlton Carrington 6-5 195 18 Pittsburgh
20 C Yves Missi 6-11 230 20 Baylor
21 SF Kyshawn George 6-7 210 20 Miami
22 PG Isaiah Collier 6-3 205 19 USC
23 PG Tyler Kolek 6-2 195 23 Marquette
24 PF/C DaRon Holmes 6-9 235 21 Dayton
25 SF Jaylon Tyson 6-7 215 21 California
26 SG Johnny Furphy 6-8 200 19 Kansas
27 PF Pacome Dadiet 6-8 210 18 Int
28 PF/C Kyle Filipowski 6-11 230 20 Duke
29 PF Tyler Smith 6-9 225 19 G-League
30 SG Baylor Scheierman 6-6 200 23 Ceighton
31 SF Bobi Klintman 6-9 210 21 Int
32 SF Ryan Dunn 6-7 216 21 Virginia
33 SF/SG Terrence Shannon 6-6 225 23 Illinois
34 SG Cam Christie 6-5 190 18 Minnesota
35 SF Nikola Durisic 6-6 209 20 Int
36 PG KJ Simpson 6-1 190 21 Colorado
37 SF/SG Kevin McCullar 6-6 210 23 Kansas
38 PG Ajay Mitchell 6-4 195 21 UC-Santa Barbara
39 PF/C PJ Hall 6-9 240 22 Clemson
40 PF/SF Jonathan Mogbo 6-8 215 22 San Francisco
41 SG Trentyn Flowers 6-8 180 19
42 PG AJ Johnson 6-4 165 19
43 SF Dillon Jones 6-6 235 22 Weber St
44 SF Harrison Ingram 6-6 235 21 N. Carolina
45 SG Antonio Reeves 6-5 185 23 Kentucky
46 SF Justin Edwards 6-7 205 20 Kentucky
47 C Adem Bona 6-9 243 21 UCLA
48 SG Trisen Newton 6-4 195 23 Uconn
49 PF Keshad Johnson 6-7 225 22 Arizona
50 SG Bronny James 6-2 210 19 USC
51 PF Enrique Freeman 6-7 206 23 Akron
52 SF Jaylen Wells 6-7 210 20 Washington St
53 PG Juan Nunez 6-3 180 19 Int
54 SF Pelle Larsson 6-6 212 23 Arizona
55 SF Melvin Ajinca 6-7 200 19 Int
56 PG Jamal Shead 6-0 200 21 Houston
57 C Oso Ighodaro 6-10 235 21 Marquette
58 PF/C Isaac Jones 6-8 235 23 Washington St
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 19, 2024 7:39:43 GMT -5
A rumor I read was that Holmes has a guarantee in the first round and shut down all team meetings. and he has moved up slightly in those mocks.
Filipowski continues to drop in the mocks, due to his bad measurable at the combine I guess. Short arms, slow footed and not a leaper. Sounds like our old friend Kelly O. is his high end to me ( IF Filipwoski can shoot as well). Made a mistake not coming out last year it seems now.
It will be interesting to see what happens if Filipowski falls past 26 though, is he a guy Boston likes?
Scheiermann just looks like a Celtic pick to me and has been moving up due to a solid draft combine.
I still think it's more likely Brad trades down into the second round and picks up some future draft assets. IN that case Indiana could be the team to watch in a trade. They have picks 36, 50 and 51 this year.
Trading #30 for #36 and a future second could be a solid move here. Especially if Brad sees not much difference in the 30-36 range of players on the board.
IF Brad does trade into the early second, some players of note who could be there are
Dunn or McCullar- both good wing defenders ( though McCuller had a knee issue last year)
PJ Hall is a big I like as a sleeper pick and A. Bona 7-4 wingspan, big leaper, no offence out of the paint ( Timelord part 2?)
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 19, 2024 7:56:46 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jun 19, 2024 10:44:38 GMT -5
Yahoo Mock has Missi going #21 (Pels) ... Holmes #23 (Bucks) ... Edey #25 (NYK) ... Tyler Smith #28 (Nuggs)
Ranking the top power forward prospects, led by Duke's Kyle Filipowski
With the way the NBA game is extending outside the paint, NBA scouts and decision-makers will be deep diving into each player's 3-point potential. Duke's Kyle Filipowski, who elected to return for his sophomore season and helped lead the Blue Devils to an Elite Eight run, leads this list. Colorado's Tristan da Silva, meanwhile, is a four-year player who can be plugged in right away and contribute to a handful of teams.
In a draft that's completely wide open, especially projecting the draft ranges of power forwards, there could be a few surprises in this group during both rounds on June 26-27.
1. Kyle Filipowski
Ht./Wt.: 7-0, 230 pounds | Age: 20
Duke ran the majority of its offense through Filipowski, who is a very smart player at targeting mismatches off pick-and-rolls and different pin-down screens. His face-up game has improved and his go-to move is taking a defender left off the elbow before spinning back and finishing on the right side of the rim. Filipowski's lateral movement on defense continues to be an area of improvement, but he's moved better since undergoing double hip surgery a year ago. His draft range is anywhere from late lottery to mid-20s in the first round. He can be a plug-and-play guy for multiple teams.
2. Tristan da Silva
Ht./Wt.: 6-9, 217 pounds | Age: 23
Colorado had a successful season largely due to the guard play of KJ Simpson and the inside-out versatility of da Silva. Being an older prospect, da Silva will be expected to contribute right away; what makes him most valuable is all the different spots he can be slotted into. The senior forward shot 39.5% from 3-point range and doesn't need the ball in his hands to positively impact the game. He moves well off the ball and is an underrated passer, dishing out five or more assists in five games this season. His draft range is anywhere from 15-25.
3. Tyler Smith
Ht./Wt.: 6-10, 224 pounds | Age: 19
Smith is one of the most improved players in the draft. Although the G League Ignite struggled all season, Smith showed glimpses of his NBA potential with his 3-point shot and improved motor. Because he's a threat along the wing, the spacing opens up for more guard play and defenders aren't able to sag off and clog the paint. Defensively, he did a better job at keeping players in front and was really good off the help-side, using his length to contest at the rim when guards got beat.
4. DaRon Holmes II
Ht./Wt.: 6-10, 236 pounds | Age: 21
Holmes possesses the traits many teams are looking for in a big who can stretch the floor. He finished the season shooting 38.6% from 3-point range and can play a similar role that Naz Reid plays in Minnesota. Holmes started turning down workouts and many believe he has a promise at the end of the first round. Denver could be a nice landing spot for Holmes, who would add length and size to counter the Timberwolves' frontcourt. Milwaukee and Boston could also be looking to add Holmes.
5. Bobi Klintman
Ht./Wt.: 6-10, 212 pounds | Age: 21
Klintman elected to play overseas in Australia's NBL for the Cairns Taipans after spending one year at Wake Forest. Out of all the players in the NBL's Next Stars program, Klintman saw the most playing time, averaging 21 minutes per game. Offensively, he was a little inconsistent but did have seven games this season in which he scored in double digits. Like the forwards above, Klintman passes the eye test as a versatile forward who is comfortable in the pick-and-pop and has a promising outside jumper that will translate. Klintman is projected to be drafted at the end of the first round or beginning of the second round.
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Post by Admin on Jun 19, 2024 11:36:15 GMT -5
Because the Knicks want to keep Hartenstien but can only offer him around $18M next year with early bird rights. so the MLE won't get it done. Maybe Stinky P is the play for them, however then they have the same problem as the Knicks one. While they have a tad over $35M in cap space to sign someone, Indy can pay Siakam more to keep him with his full bird rights. the #12 pick ( and the other glut of first round picks they have) are mostly now trade fodder to get upgrades on their roster ( and replace other picks on the roster who are lesser players). OKC 's play this year has sped up their timeline and by all accounts they are looking for higher quality players then #12 picks to fill out that roster. at least in my opinion. now my idea may be lousy, but I do take into account real cap issues when trying to acquire players or trade for them. so to repeat for them to get Siakam he will have to take LESS money to play there and to get Hartenstein ( rumored to be a target) they will have to pay more than the $18M NY can offer him.
Just signed $189MM deal w/ Pacers ...
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Post by Admin on Jun 19, 2024 11:55:26 GMT -5
Where's Chomche on your mocks kdp59?
I'd love to see him accept a 2-way in the 2nd round.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 19, 2024 17:47:39 GMT -5
he is 44th pick in the draftroom mock and not on any of the other two .
I only put guys who make 2 out of 3 mocks in the rankings.
if I added guys in only one to the end of the list , Chomche would have been #61 .
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Post by Admin on Jun 19, 2024 22:33:44 GMT -5
You should dump B/R for this one:
or this one:
or this one:
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Post by rkarp1 on Jun 20, 2024 6:28:15 GMT -5
And you still have the #12 pick, which you could use on Devin Carter (and then Trade Giddey for cap room to help bring in Siakam and Hartenstein) I think Carter gtoes earlier than #12 Siakam resigned with Indy |
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 20, 2024 7:22:13 GMT -5
You should dump B/R for this one:
or this one:
or this one:
Thanks I do have them all in my bookmarks, so I will check them out and see ( or maybe add one or two even to the rankings) Hoopshype already does what I do with mine , in that they aggregate various mocks themselves. in the past the ringer simply did not update much until closer to the draft and I never know when tankathon updates for some reason. let me add both and see how things change |
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 20, 2024 8:50:39 GMT -5
And you still have the #12 pick, which you could use on Devin Carter (and then Trade Giddey for cap room to help bring in Siakam and Hartenstein) I think Carter gtoes earlier than #12 Siakam resigned with Indy Sure, on both counts. But my overall point was that if you can create a max contract spot, you should do that over blowing your cap room for an overpaid Capela , while giving up the 12th overall pick and moving Chet out of a position in which he excelled last year. Teams see what the Celtics were able to do with 5 shooters on the court. Its a copycat league. Non shooting bigs arent worth 20M anymore. |
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Post by rkarp1 on Jun 20, 2024 9:29:00 GMT -5
I think Carter gtoes earlier than #12 Siakam resigned with Indy Sure, on both counts. But my overall point was that if you can create a max contract spot, you should do that over blowing your cap room for an overpaid Capela , while giving up the 12th overall pick and moving Chet out of a position in which he excelled last year. Teams see what the Celtics were able to do with 5 shooters on the court. Its a copycat league. Non shooting bigs arent worth 20M anymore. I could see Capela included in a Trae Young deal. I hope it's the Lakers. |
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