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Post by drewski6 on Nov 9, 2023 11:09:11 GMT -5
Cole if theres something you want to say but are holding back because some of us (myself) are conspiracy averse - I hereby give you permission.
Because the officiating did suck.
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Post by drewski6 on Nov 9, 2023 11:10:13 GMT -5
Officiating sucked, Pritchard sucked, Brown sucked, Horford sucked.
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Post by drewski6 on Nov 9, 2023 11:10:48 GMT -5
Anybody see Pritch pass up an open 3 and then drive the lane and miss a floater. Yikes.
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Post by drewski6 on Nov 9, 2023 11:14:03 GMT -5
All that being said, we lost to the #3 team in power rankings, on the road, by 3 (and Zinger had a good look to tie it). Despite Brown, Horford, Pritchard playing badly and at least 2 terribly timed awful calls (Embiid was out of bounds on that baseline rebound, the T on Tatum).
Its not time to panic, but it might be time to give Banton a shot over PP. And they have to get Al right. He looks terribly old , front rimming everything and struggling to keep up with the play on defensive end. Maybe cut his minutes down and see if Stevens can give you a solid 8-10 energy minutes. Or use Brisset for 8-10 energy minutes.
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Post by drewski6 on Nov 9, 2023 11:20:52 GMT -5
32% from the 3 point line and the Jays scored a combined 27 pts.
Thank goodness for Hauser with 13 pts of the bench's grand total of 16 pts.
The final push made the game appear closer than it was.
Can you read me, Houston?
Houston, can you read me???
Pud
Houston hears you Roger Over and Out They are up by 26 over LA.. 76ers shot only 26% from three and managed to win. The difference? 53% of our shots were 3s. 76ERS only 30%.. They played in the paint while we hung out at the 3 pt line. Stevens old strategy. The team still resorts to their old ways at times when they are faced with a tough opponent. and for the cheerleaders.. It's just two games in a row. Our bench will be fine . No worries at all.. Philly is always near the bottom in 3 pt rate. Was the case for all their recent disappointing seasons. Cant get past the second round despite having Embiid and usually a not terrible supporting cast (they had Butler, Maxey is a very fine player, Harris is solid). Are you sure you want to emulate their approach? One thing they do, that I would like to emulate - is pace push. So maybe Im disagreeing with myself. But as you push the pace, your 3 pt rate would naturally come down because more off your offensive possessions are transition and those usually wind up at the rim. I also love when Tatum uses his strength and quickness to attack the basket. He wasnt aggressive enough last night (and he wasnt alone). Okay - Ive seemed to have come full circle. I do like 3's. But I also like using mismatches and having guys play physical when they have a smaller guy on them. And I love when we push pace (which further cuts down on 3's). But I dont mind having 50% of our half-court sets end in a 3. (Which would be less than 50% of your total offensive plays, because of the transition offensive possessions).
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Post by petey62 on Nov 9, 2023 11:22:25 GMT -5
Chris Forsberg: Jrue Holiday defended Joel Embiid on nearly ⅓ of his offensive possessions on Wednesday. NBA’s tracking data: 22.3 possessions, 2 PTS, 1-3 FG, 3 TO (Al Horford logged similar time and gave up 15 PTS on 6-11 FG) Holiday’s career stats vs Embiid: 17 PTS, 7-22 FG, 9 TO pic.twitter.com/pDzo3wcCaa – via Twitter ChrisForsberg_ Al Horford, Joel Embiid, Jrue Holiday, Boston Celtics, Philadelphia 76ers For that matter, let's just put Lamar Stevens on Embiid. This really doesn't mean anything. There is no way this would happen in a playoff game/series. It would be insane to even suggest Holiday would be successful defending Embiid over a 7-game series. So, instead of playing a gimmick Holiday defense of Embiid, let's focus on really defending him with someone who can make things tough for him consistently. We're really gonna burn Holiday out by making him work the hardest on defense. He's a great defensive player but let's find someone for the long-term.
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Post by puddin on Nov 9, 2023 11:35:52 GMT -5
Cole if theres something you want to say but are holding back because some of us (myself) are conspiracy averse - I hereby give you permission. Because the officiating did suck.
Let's not give carte blanche for conspiracy nuts to talk craziness.
Lets just let it go that refs can have bad nights too w/o reading any more into it.
Pud
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 9, 2023 11:37:43 GMT -5
I actually thought that was one of our better games, when it came to defending Embiid! What beat us Tatum played like the invisible man, and Brown, I can't come up with words to describe how bad Brown was last night. White and Porzingis were the only 2 starters that played up to par last night.
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Post by petey62 on Nov 9, 2023 11:47:35 GMT -5
All that being said, we lost to the #3 team in power rankings, on the road, by 3 (and Zinger had a good look to tie it). Despite Brown, Horford, Pritchard playing badly and at least 2 terribly timed awful calls (Embiid was out of bounds on that baseline rebound, the T on Tatum). Its not time to panic, but it might be time to give Banton a shot over PP. And they have to get Al right. He looks terribly old , front rimming everything and struggling to keep up with the play on defensive end. Maybe cut his minutes down and see if Stevens can give you a solid 8-10 energy minutes. Or use Brisset for 8-10 energy minutes. Totally agree it's not time to panic but there is a concern when Hauser outscores JB against the Sixers, in a loss. If we beat Charlotte by 20 and Hauser scores 13 to Brown's 11, we won't look twice at that. But this is the Sixers and JB has to show up with more than 11 points. Al looks DONE! I think he'll show flashes at times during the season but even that will be inconsistent. We need veterans on our bench. I'd love for us to get a guy like TJ Warren or Terrence Ross or, even John Wall. Either of those guys can play at least 20 minutes a night and take some pressure off Holiday, Brown, White and Tatum. Hauser (19 mins) and PP (13 mins) don't take any pressure off our starting 5 when they're on the court.
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2023 11:54:54 GMT -5
Admin, you alright? Haven't heard from you since halftime.
I was frustrated by the poor officiating early in the game and when I saw Philly running us off the court before the half was over with their new additions (Batum, Covington, Oubre) and Maxey taking over for Harden I decided not to punish myself with another half when it was so much more entertaining watching the GOP Debate ...
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2023 12:03:31 GMT -5
Cole if theres something you want to say but are holding back because some of us (myself) are conspiracy averse - I hereby give you permission. Because the officiating did suck.
Let's not give carte blanche for conspiracy nuts to talk craziness.
Lets just let it go that refs can have bad nights too w/o reading any more into it.
Pud
You need to watch a Patriots game ... refs are trying to get them the top pick in the draft!
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Post by hedleylamarr on Nov 9, 2023 12:11:15 GMT -5
Speaking of refs:
In the aftermath of the loss, Joe Mazzulla wasn’t shy about taking a subtle shot at officiating in what he viewed as some subtle advantages the Sixers gained due to a lack of rule enforcement. Philadelphia routinely packed the paint with Joel Embiid and other Sixers help defenders for much of the evening to the point where Mazzulla suggested he needed to teach his players to do the same. “The one thing we have to teach our bigs is to stay in the paint on defense and not move and we just got to be able to do that and protect the rim,” Mazzulla said with a hint of sarcasm. “I thought Embiid did a good job of standing in the paint, protecting the rim and forcing us to kick it out, and I just don’t think we made them.” – via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers Top Rumors, Joe Mazzulla, Joel Embiid, Boston Celtics, Philadelphia 76ers
When pressed about Celtics bigs playing more defense in the paint, it became clear that Mazzulla was referring to the Sixers taking advantage of the loose enforcement of the defensive 3-second rule with that remark. “Well, there is a rule called (Defensive 3 seconds), but I don’t know if it’s a rule anymore,” Mazzulla said. “But I have to look it up.” – via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers Joe Mazzulla, Joel Embiid, Boston Celtics, Philadelphia 76ers
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Post by cole on Nov 9, 2023 12:17:34 GMT -5
Cole if theres something you want to say but are holding back because some of us (myself) are conspiracy averse - I hereby give you permission. Because the officiating did suck. Yeah bad but not the worst. I thought about it. I do think the nba wants phili to feel better about losing Harden
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2023 12:20:24 GMT -5
and that Zinger "T" for rim hanging ... HCA was too obvious early in the game.
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 9, 2023 12:43:08 GMT -5
I am happy with Mazulla being fired. We can start there if you ask me. Didnt get along with Grant William. We traded him for second rounders (if we dont play first rounders, gathering second rounders is a waste). Grant williams is missed more than what some think. Im not loving what Im seeing out of him. Philly pushed the ball up the court much more often and effectively than we did. You need to turn your steals, blocks, and rebounds into points the other way. Philly was great at this. philly looks solid and well coached
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Post by dfries13 on Nov 9, 2023 12:45:18 GMT -5
Cole if theres something you want to say but are holding back because some of us (myself) are conspiracy averse - I hereby give you permission. Because the officiating did suck. Yeah bad but not the worst. I thought about it. I do think the nba wants phili to feel better about losing Harden Phila already feels good without Harden with or without the NBA's help They look like a happy team especially Maxey . He was smiling all nite. Harden leaving gave him the keys and he's got his foot deep into the floor.. What concerns Silver.?. Not Harden Lost TV ratings and soon maybe lost revenue.. The stupid in season tournament gimmick is low class BS and a poor attempt to keep the fans interested in what is too long of a season.. Teams are going to rest stars with or without Silver's blessing.. Little counts till playoff time and that is many months away.. You can tell by the # of posts here and on other forums also i'm sure.. Mazz is an idiot the players talk with Sam on the sidelines not Mazz.. All the idiot had to say was.. Stop shooting so many threes and go to the hole make Embiid work his ass off....
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 9, 2023 14:38:37 GMT -5
Mazz needs to make Brown watch film of Bob Cousy! If you can only dribble with one hand, at least learn to do it good!!
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Post by cole on Nov 9, 2023 14:41:03 GMT -5
Mazz needs to make Brown watch film of Bob Cousy! If you can only dribble with one hand, at least learn to do it good!! Now it's come to the point where he's like that kid in kids inc that everyone knows freezes if he gets the ball. As soon as Jaylen puts the ball down now it's a full-on blitz. I'd think he's very embarrassed, but not enough to do anything about it.
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 9, 2023 14:53:23 GMT -5
Mazz needs to make Brown watch film of Bob Cousy! If you can only dribble with one hand, at least learn to do it good!! Now it's come to the point where he's like that kid in kids inc that everyone knows freezes if he gets the ball. As soon as Jaylen puts the ball down now it's a full-on blitz. I'd think he's very embarrassed, but not enough to do anything about it. What is this his 8th year, and he's not a bit better with his left hand, than he was his 1st year!
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Post by puddin on Nov 9, 2023 15:11:04 GMT -5
Yeah bad but not the worst. I thought about it. I do think the nba wants phili to feel better about losing Harden Phila already feels good without Harden with or without the NBA's help They look like a happy team especially Maxey . He was smiling all nite. Harden leaving gave him the keys and he's got his foot deep into the floor.. What concerns Silver.?. Not Harden Lost TV ratings and soon maybe lost revenue.. The stupid in season tournament gimmick is low class BS and a poor attempt to keep the fans interested in what is too long of a season.. Teams are going to rest stars with or without Silver's blessing.. Little counts till playoff time and that is many months away.. You can tell by the # of posts here and on other forums also i'm sure.. Mazz is an idiot the players talk with Sam on the sidelines not Mazz.. All the idiot had to say was.. Stop shooting so many threes and go to the hole make Embiid work his ass off....Too much effort on Cs part trying to make Embiid work his azz off.
Why not avoid the down low grind, wait around the 3 point line, shoot treys, rest your legs and be happy that the game is finally coming so easily for the guys in green!
It's Win Win Win!
(1) You save yourself for the playoffs when games actually begin to mean something.
(2) The league office is happy if Philly wins a few games after losing the BEARD.
(3) You lull 76ers into regular season complacency and then... KA-BOOM!
... you let Philly really have it when PO's arrive.... that is, if the league office and the refs say it's OK!
Pud
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Post by puddin on Nov 9, 2023 16:44:51 GMT -5
Let's not give carte blanche for conspiracy nuts to talk craziness.
Lets just let it go that refs can have bad nights too w/o reading any more into it.
Pud
You need to watch a Patriots game ... refs are trying to get them the top pick in the draft!
I happened to watch my woeful 'skins beat up on the once mighty Pats this past week.
Maybe the refs need to be helping my team get top draft pick instead of yours.... 'coz the Pats need absolutely ZERO help at this point. Dey stink!
Same for da 'skins.
Pud
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Post by Admin on Nov 9, 2023 19:28:57 GMT -5
Cole if theres something you want to say but are holding back because some of us (myself) are conspiracy averse - I hereby give you permission. Because the officiating did suck. Yeah bad but not the worst. I thought about it. I do think the nba wants phili to feel better about losing Harden
So they did this?
The NBA acknowledged a key missed call in the closing seconds of the Celtics’ loss to the 76ers on Wednesday night within the Last 2 Minute Report.
Boston had a chance to tie the game in the closing seconds when Kristaps Porzingis attempted a 3-point shot from the top of the key with just under 10 seconds remaining. The big man badly misfired on the shot and Joel Embiid came up with the rebound in a crowd.
However, Embiid appeared to have one foot on the baseline when he took control of the rebound but it was uncalled by officials in real time. Philadelphia ran out the clock and won the game 106-103.
The NBA Last 2 Minute report acknowledged that Embiid was out of bounds and the Celtics should have been given one final possession with four seconds remaining in regulation.
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Post by dfries13 on Nov 9, 2023 20:03:29 GMT -5
Phila already feels good without Harden with or without the NBA's help They look like a happy team especially Maxey . He was smiling all nite. Harden leaving gave him the keys and he's got his foot deep into the floor.. What concerns Silver.?. Not Harden Lost TV ratings and soon maybe lost revenue.. The stupid in season tournament gimmick is low class BS and a poor attempt to keep the fans interested in what is too long of a season.. Teams are going to rest stars with or without Silver's blessing.. Little counts till playoff time and that is many months away.. You can tell by the # of posts here and on other forums also i'm sure.. Mazz is an idiot the players talk with Sam on the sidelines not Mazz.. All the idiot had to say was.. Stop shooting so many threes and go to the hole make Embiid work his ass off....Too much effort on Cs part trying to make Embiid work his azz off.
Why not avoid the down low grind, wait around the 3 point line, shoot treys, rest your legs and be happy that the game is finally coming so easily for the guys in green!
It's Win Win Win!
(1) You save yourself for the playoffs when games actually begin to mean something.
(2) The league office is happy if Philly wins a few games after losing the BEARD.
(3) You lull 76ers into regular season complacency and then... KA-BOOM!
... you let Philly really have it when PO's arrive.... that is, if the league office and the refs say it's OK!
Pud
So your saying we didn't try to win?. The league wanted Phia to feel good about Harden? Can't sell me that Pud.. I think all the starters played 30+ minutes. If we weren't trying it would have been a good time to sit the starters and play the bench more.. Right? Right Your opinion here is satire i'll assume then... You don't believe in conspiracies by the league office or the refs.. If i'm wrong you'll need to wear Cole's hat for a week..
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 9, 2023 20:08:47 GMT -5
This team needs help, fast! We have a solid starting five but after that, the cupboards are bare. AND it's going to take a good part of the season for the starting five to gel. They are a long way from there despite some pretty good outings. What ever happened to Al Horford? He has not yet adjusted to his role coming off the bench. Outside of the occasional good defensive play, Al is a total non-factor to winning. Not a big proponent of that <plus/minus> stat, but Al was a MINUS 23 last night. Not a big proponent of it but being a MINUS 23 CANNOT BE A GOOD THING. And, after signing a new contract, the expectation is that you RAISE YOUR GAME. What has happened to PP? He has done NOTHING since signing the new contract. We need a center. Porzingis IS NOT a center and we can't play him there. I love Derrick White but he needs to be 6th man. We have to get a NBA center to man the paint, bang, defend and get rebounds. Right now, we don't have that player on our roster and it showed yesterday. It's literally embarrassing watching Jrue Holiday guard KAT and Embiid. That is not a long-term solution to guarding those types of centers. If we cannot play Brisset, Stevens and Banton in an important game AND GET solid contributions, then move on and bring in someone who can contribute. We miss Brogdon and Grant because they were solid bench contributors. We have to get the starting five "some" help or it's going to be a long, frustrating season. Wow...and there Petey is again...speaking 'The Truth'...
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 9, 2023 20:41:08 GMT -5
Yeah bad but not the worst. I thought about it. I do think the nba wants phili to feel better about losing Harden
So they did this?
The NBA acknowledged a key missed call in the closing seconds of the Celtics’ loss to the 76ers on Wednesday night within the Last 2 Minute Report.
Boston had a chance to tie the game in the closing seconds when Kristaps Porzingis attempted a 3-point shot from the top of the key with just under 10 seconds remaining. The big man badly misfired on the shot and Joel Embiid came up with the rebound in a crowd.
However, Embiid appeared to have one foot on the baseline when he took control of the rebound but it was uncalled by officials in real time. Philadelphia ran out the clock and won the game 106-103.
The NBA Last 2 Minute report acknowledged that Embiid was out of bounds and the Celtics should have been given one final possession with four seconds remaining in regulation.
The refs may have missed it, but we deserved to lose.
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