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Post by kivancb on Jul 23, 2016 10:53:26 GMT -5
www.celticshub.com/tyler-zeller-sign-2-year-deal-celtics/"According to Steve Bulpett of the Boston Herald, the Celtics will sign Tyler Zeller to a 2-year deal, with Boston holding a team option for the second year." No info about the terms, but I think this is a good move. With the signing of Gerald Green, this pretty much ends the James Young era in Boston, eh?
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 23, 2016 11:01:06 GMT -5
I agree. And yes, it looks like young Mr. Young is done!
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Post by kivancb on Jul 23, 2016 11:22:50 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2016 14:47:30 GMT -5
Green will be more reliable than Young ... Nader will be a D-League Draft & Stash as there's no more room for a swing with Crowder, Green & Brown
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Post by fisher on Jul 23, 2016 14:56:55 GMT -5
Will be surprised if GG make the final roster.... If he does, it's because the smoke regarding trades is nothing more than smoke ...
Doesn't improve the team or make it stronger .....
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Post by Cabutan on Jul 23, 2016 15:00:44 GMT -5
Will be surprised if GG make the final roster.... If he does, it's because the smoke regarding trades is nothing more than smoke ... Doesn't improve the team or make it stronger ..... Just saw this signing. Kind of shocked actually. Danny is being once again frugal. GG actually had a good stint with Phoenix but looks like his head is not in the right place nowadays. I cant really picture Al Hortfords face. I hope that this works and quiets me down. Although there was really not a lot of good options, Indiana really picked some good ones that might have worked better for us.
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2016 15:58:33 GMT -5
Will be surprised if GG make the final roster.... If he does, it's because the smoke regarding trades is nothing more than smoke ... Doesn't improve the team or make it stronger ..... On the contrary, if GG makes the team it's more likely that Bradley is gone as well as Rozier along with Amir and one of Zeller or Oly with BRK's 2018 pick for Pierce & Griffin. Why do you give a 4th string PG (Jackson) a guaranteed contract, sign Zeller to $8mm for 1 yr with an option over a QO of $3.5mm then sign Green? Not to become a contender this season ... LOL!!!
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 23, 2016 18:21:03 GMT -5
Will be surprised if GG make the final roster.... If he does, it's because the smoke regarding trades is nothing more than smoke ... Doesn't improve the team or make it stronger ..... On the contrary, if GG makes the team it's more likely that Bradley is gone as well as Rozier along with Amir and one of Zeller or Oly with BRK's 2018 pick for Pierce & Griffin. Why do you give a 4th string PG (Jackson) a guaranteed contract, sign Zeller to $8mm for 1 yr with an option over a QO of $3.5mm then sign Green? Not to become a contender this season ... LOL!!! I like that trade, but I think all of those players go to SAC, and Gay goes to LAC!
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2016 18:59:12 GMT -5
Reading now that if Sac involved they like Rozier and need a PG with other pieces like Jerebko & Holland going as well from C's while LA wants Amir as backup PF/C along with Gay as we obviously get Griffin and Pierce. espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hyelsoaOther guys wonder why everyone signed except Brown and one source says Brown could be traded while another says definitely not. I also found a source whose wife works for C's marketing that says Brown has agreed to change his number to 7 and they are in process of doing a ton of marketing with the new number FWIW ... ?? MEMO: I don't know these guys, just reading them ... also speculation that ownership is impatient and willing to do Griffin deal with hopes of him resigning here as FA
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 23, 2016 19:11:28 GMT -5
Reading now that if Sac involved they like Rozier and need a PG with other pieces like Jerebko & Holland going as well from C's while LA wants Amir as backup PF/C along with Gay as we obviously get Griffin and Pierce. espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hyelsoaOther guys wonder why everyone signed except Brown and one source says Brown could be traded while another says definitely not. I also found a source whose wife works for C's marketing that says Brown has agreed to change his number to 7 and they are in process of doing a ton of marketing with the new number FWIW ... ?? MEMO: I don't know these guys, just reading them Yes, that makes sense. Of course YOU get to write stuff like this - when I write the same stuff I'm told I'm wrong and don't know the game...lol
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2016 19:13:23 GMT -5
Reading now that if Sac involved they like Rozier and need a PG with other pieces like Jerebko & Holland going as well from C's while LA wants Amir as backup PF/C along with Gay as we obviously get Griffin and Pierce. espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hyelsoaOther guys wonder why everyone signed except Brown and one source says Brown could be traded while another says definitely not. I also found a source whose wife works for C's marketing that says Brown has agreed to change his number to 7 and they are in process of doing a ton of marketing with the new number FWIW ... ?? MEMO: I don't know these guys, just reading them Yes, that makes sense. Of course YOU get to write stuff like this - when I write the same stuff I'm told I'm wrong and don't know the game...lol I'm just reporting what I'm reading rather than personal speculation now for the "entertainment" of the membership ... LOL!!!
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 23, 2016 19:19:24 GMT -5
Yes, that makes sense. Of course YOU get to write stuff like this - when I write the same stuff I'm told I'm wrong and don't know the game...lol I'm just reporting what I'm reading rather than personal speculation now for the "entertainment" of the membership ... LOL!!! I know - and you know I report as well - it's just different for me. I read a variation of that trade a few days ago. There is actually a whole thread on it. And, of course, the negative Nelly's think it won't help us....LOL Blake is a loser.....lol I would LOVE this deal. Unfortunately, I still disagree on Monroe. He might help us, but I think his price tag will be too high, and Danny wont' wait for it to come down. But.....he'd help for sure!
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2016 19:58:25 GMT -5
Well, I think DA is focused on Griffin and Westbrook still ... Monroe is probably on the back burner just in case but NY is hot after him come the DEC trade deadline for FA signings to be re-traded.
Also reading that Brown signing could be delayed for hope of a deal for Westbrook ... seems Presti/OKC really like Brown just as they did Sabonis. In fact both Riley & Presti liked Brown alot with Presti comparing him to Vince Carter and Riley Duane Wade ...
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 23, 2016 20:23:02 GMT -5
I would give up Brown for Westbrook IF he opted in. Would not give him up for Blake. The deal you proposed is good enough. IT would also have to go for Russ, don't you think?
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2016 20:40:55 GMT -5
I would give up Brown for Westbrook IF he opted in. Would not give him up for Blake. The deal you proposed is good enough. IT would also have to go for Russ, don't you think? Yes, If SAC were to be in the Griffin trade providing Gay, we'd keep Zeller. If we got Westbrook there would be no need for IT as long as Smart, Bradley & Jackson were still on the roster. But agreed, if Brown were dealt with IT then Westbrook MUST be extended.
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Post by cole on Aug 3, 2016 16:34:25 GMT -5
Did we waive zeller? I just read an article about adding Smith and Westbrook with this paragraph:
The Boston Celtics management may have made up its mind on Smith. Team management told the press earlier that Tyler Zeller will not be returning next season to give way to JR Smith's single year contract.
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Post by Employee8 on Aug 3, 2016 22:20:37 GMT -5
Did we waive zeller? I just read an article about adding Smith and Westbrook with this paragraph: The Boston Celtics management may have made up its mind on Smith. Team management told the press earlier that Tyler Zeller will not be returning next season to give way to JR Smith's single year contract. I've researched this story a few times after seeing the report again a few days ago that had nothing new from what I posted under the Rumors Thread ... the reason I posted the initial story there rather than have a dedicated thread was that I didn't find the story credible given the signing of Zeller just a few days earlier and no longer having the cap space needed without turning around and renouncing that signing as well as clearing a few other cap holds. But if Danny did indeed have interest in Smith he had all the time and cap space before signing Zeller so my conclusion was that it was an old story that some media guy picked up on late and missed the Zeller signing ... a case of being a day late and a dollar short. Here's the link from the other day that I checked and again, this is a Chinese media company based in NY producing a Chinese and English version of their stories for the Chinese community living in the U.S. Again I chalk it up to a day late and a dollar short while trying to keep the Chinese community informed though not on a timely basis. en.yibada.com/articles/147527/20160802/nba-free-agency-rumors-jr-smith-way-boston-celtics-offer.htmBut, just to make sure, I checked most of the sources I use and didn't find anything today until I "googled" it and came up with this ... www.sportsrageous.com/nba/nba-trade-rumors-boston-celtics-acquiring-jr-smith-leads-trouble-free-agent-tyler-zeller-return-remains-murky/38774/NBA Trade Rumors: Boston Celtics acquiring JR Smith leads to trouble? Free agent Tyler Zeller return remains murky?
Acquiring JR Smith to Boston Celtics certainly is considerably a high-risk for the team as per latest NBA trade rumors. Given the $15 million deal for a great shooting skill, perhaps this move guarantees a good return.
Smith’s desire for a $15 million salary is crystal clear. However, for Celtics’s move on spending that much to acquire him is agreeable.
This is so far the biggest gamble for the team. Yet, to achieve the goal of improvement on defense, they need to get JR Smith while he’s a free agent.
Based on the team’s progress in the previous seasons, Boston Celtics clearly needs to have a sharp shooter in the team to improve their game.
Prior to acquiring Smith, the team was hopeful on James Young and RJ Hunter for shooting improvements. Yet, they failed to show any sign of progress.
Hence, having the former Cleveland Cavaliers’ shooting guard in their hands is the best option. As much as the records are concerned, a good game for Celtics awaits them.
Averaging 40 percent of the whooping 510 3-pointers he made in the previous season, it is quite a proof he could give Celtics a great contribution.
Reports noted that he earned 1.014 points per play in the previous season alone, only a fraction lower than Jimmy Butler and James Harden.
In addition, his 83rd percentile among the other NBA players makes sense why Boston Celtics sees the need to have him in their hands.
Regardless of these good records in his NBA career, JR Smith obviously does not meet the demands of Boston coach Brad Stevens, however.
Chris Forsberg of ESPN cited that he does not fit Steven’s mantra on the basketball court though he knows the missing ingredient for the team.
According to the same source, he has the tendency to exaggerate defense wherein he boxed out and knocked down Jae Crowder, who happened to be in Celtics as well.
That being said, there is much curiosity among the Celtics fans to how the team could work out the game with JR Smith in the next regular season.
In the meantime, restricted free agent Tyler Zeller return remains a doubt until 2018, Hoops Hype noted. Boston Celtics’ earlier announced renouncing his rights in the team to allow Smith’s one-year deal.
HUH? Not only does the writer have a poor command of the English language but I found no Hoops Hype note of Zeller returning in 2018 (from his imbedded link: hoopshype.com/storyline/tyler-zeller-free-agency/) let alone renouncing of his rts. I'm thinking this writer is confusing Sullinger with Zeller but who knows, and apparently who cares at their end as long as they get eyeball clicks I guess. That's not "Sportsrageous" ...it's "Outrageous" reporting!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 22:54:42 GMT -5
Zeller's signing was formally announced by the Celtics a few days back.
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Post by Employee8 on Aug 3, 2016 23:22:37 GMT -5
Zeller's signing was formally announced by the Celtics a few days back. That's why the story is misleading and poor reporting ... they are implying that the C's made a mistake signing Zeller and will now renounce him to sign Smith. Outrageous and Danny/Celtics would look very bad (to agents & players) if indeed he were to do such a thing ... I give the story no credibility whatsoever until they provide a source that does have some. This is like the writer saying, Celtics fans are so desperate for a big trade or FA signing we can write anything and get clicks ... kinda like Trump saying "I can shoot someone in Times Square and not lose a point in the ratings." (paraphrased quote)
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