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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 23, 2023 9:12:10 GMT -5
Good summary...so basically, Jaylen won't be making a financial move until about a year from now...so at that point we should worry or trade him...in the meantime, enjoy the ride... Personally, I would trade him after the season unless we win a title, cuz winning fixes averything...and here I was thinking that Tatum would be leaving us and it would be Brown's team...errr... |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 23, 2023 9:53:39 GMT -5
Does he have to make first team all NBA, or any team?
I love Jaylen, but he has to realize he's not the best player on the team. Tatum gets all the glory because he's the best player.
He's upset at being picked third?? No one but Danny Ainge knew who he was. AND, both Simmons and Ingram have been traded by their original teams. We have kept him and developed him.
I'm not sure this is fixable, in his mind. He's sounding like a mini-Kyrie. An easily offended person who needs to realize he is an employee of a team. Like we all are. He can't be a "partner", that's just crazy.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 23, 2023 10:23:05 GMT -5
See, it's not just "Boston." If he does not make all-NBA, how can he consider that a slight on Boston? Does he think he'll be all NBA in another city?
I will say this about his "platform' - IF Jaylen Brown leaves after next year to pursue outside interests and gives up basketball, then I will respect that.
If he wants to continue to play in the best league in the world, being one of the highest paid athletes in the world, then we need to trade him when the year is over........title or not.
Now the question is, for whom? I'm thinking Beal, but we'd have to add another player, like PP.
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Post by kdp59 on Mar 23, 2023 10:28:57 GMT -5
Good summary...so basically, Jaylen won't be making a financial move until about a year from now...so at that point we should worry or trade him...in the meantime, enjoy the ride... Personally, I would trade him after the season unless we win a title, cuz winning fixes averything...and here I was thinking that Tatum would be leaving us and it would be Brown's team...errr... I think the time to decide for Boston is this summer. IF they feel there is a good shot he will leave and sign a max deal somewhere else, you almost have to trade him with a year left on his deal. |
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Post by kdp59 on Mar 23, 2023 10:31:19 GMT -5
See, it's not just "Boston." If he does not make all-NBA, how can he consider that a slight on Boston? Does he think he'll be all NBA in another city? I will say this about his "platform' - IF Jaylen Brown leaves after next year to pursue outside interests and gives up basketball, then I will respect that. If he wants to continue to play in the best league in the world, being one of the highest paid athletes in the world, then we need to trade him when the year is over........title or not. Now the question is, for whom? I'm thinking Beal, but we'd have to add another player, like PP. since you asked I put this together yesterday: Since the Brown interviews have many concerned I put together some possible trade options for Boston IF they decide they have to move him this summer ( I am NOT promoting trading him , only giving possible options that could be in play). draft picks may be needed in some or all deals 1) Atlanta ( since Brown is from there) J. Brown -30.7M-exp and M. Smart -18.1M for D. Murry- 18.2M- Exp and J. Collins-25.3M 2) Chicago J. Brown and M. Brogdon- 22.5M for Z. Lavine -40.0M and P. Williams 9.83M exp (RFA) 3) Minnesota J. Brown and M. Brogdon for KA Towns 52.1M ( his contract has to be an average of his current and the new he signed this year) and W. Moore- 2.42 ( FRP last year) 4) OKC J. Brown and M. Brogdon for SGA- 33.3M and K. Williams -6.8M 5) Miami J. Brown and ROB Wiliams - 11.8M for Bam- 32.6M and C. Martin-6.8M 6) Memphis J. Brown and M. Muscala- 3.5M for J. Jackson Jr- 27.1M and Z. Williams 4.8M all trades work for salary matching with the CBA . Salarys are from spotrac ** another one Brown to the Nets for M. Bridges -21.7M and D> Finney-Smith- 13.9M |
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Post by kdp59 on Mar 23, 2023 10:51:31 GMT -5
You'll notice ALL the players I brought back in trades were UNDER 30, so no Beal, or Dame or anyone else OLD.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 23, 2023 11:12:24 GMT -5
You'll notice ALL the players I brought back in trades were UNDER 30, so no Beal, or Dame or anyone else OLD. Yes. I tried this one, with no picks and it worked. To Boston - KAT and Maxi Klieber To MN - Brown To DAL - RWill If we get KAT, we don't need RWill, so I gave him to a team that needs a Center. I kind of like this one.....lol |
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Post by kivancb on Mar 23, 2023 11:19:01 GMT -5
See, it's not just "Boston." If he does not make all-NBA, how can he consider that a slight on Boston? Does he think he'll be all NBA in another city? I will say this about his "platform' - IF Jaylen Brown leaves after next year to pursue outside interests and gives up basketball, then I will respect that. If he wants to continue to play in the best league in the world, being one of the highest paid athletes in the world, then we need to trade him when the year is over........title or not. Now the question is, for whom? I'm thinking Beal, but we'd have to add another player, like PP. since you asked I put this together yesterday: Since the Brown interviews have many concerned I put together some possible trade options for Boston IF they decide they have to move him this summer ( I am NOT promoting trading him , only giving possible options that could be in play). draft picks may be needed in some or all deals 1) Atlanta ( since Brown is from there) J. Brown -30.7M-exp and M. Smart -18.1M for D. Murry- 18.2M- Exp and J. Collins-25.3M 2) Chicago J. Brown and M. Brogdon- 22.5M for Z. Lavine -40.0M and P. Williams 9.83M exp (RFA) 3) Minnesota J. Brown and M. Brogdon for KA Towns 52.1M ( his contract has to be an average of his current and the new he signed this year) and W. Moore- 2.42 ( FRP last year) 4) OKC J. Brown and M. Brogdon for SGA- 33.3M and K. Williams -6.8M 5) Miami J. Brown and ROB Wiliams - 11.8M for Bam- 32.6M and C. Martin-6.8M 6) Memphis J. Brown and M. Muscala- 3.5M for J. Jackson Jr- 27.1M and Z. Williams 4.8M all trades work for salary matching with the CBA . Salarys are from spotrac ** another one Brown to the Nets for M. Bridges -21.7M and D> Finney-Smith- 13.9M I hope Jaylen stays, but if he won't, my favorite from yours is; Brown to the Nets for M. Bridges -21.7M and D> Finney-Smith- 13.9M I also would suggest following: Jaylen + Rob to Pelicans Brandon Ingram + Valancuinas to C's. |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 23, 2023 12:14:35 GMT -5
See, it's not just "Boston." If he does not make all-NBA, how can he consider that a slight on Boston? Does he think he'll be all NBA in another city? I will say this about his "platform' - IF Jaylen Brown leaves after next year to pursue outside interests and gives up basketball, then I will respect that. If he wants to continue to play in the best league in the world, being one of the highest paid athletes in the world, then we need to trade him when the year is over........title or not. Now the question is, for whom? I'm thinking Beal, but we'd have to add another player, like PP. since you asked I put this together yesterday: Since the Brown interviews have many concerned I put together some possible trade options for Boston IF they decide they have to move him this summer ( I am NOT promoting trading him , only giving possible options that could be in play). draft picks may be needed in some or all deals 1) Atlanta ( since Brown is from there) J. Brown -30.7M-exp and M. Smart -18.1M for D. Murry- 18.2M- Exp and J. Collins-25.3M 2) Chicago J. Brown and M. Brogdon- 22.5M for Z. Lavine -40.0M and P. Williams 9.83M exp (RFA) 3) Minnesota J. Brown and M. Brogdon for KA Towns 52.1M ( his contract has to be an average of his current and the new he signed this year) and W. Moore- 2.42 ( FRP last year) 4) OKC J. Brown and M. Brogdon for SGA- 33.3M and K. Williams -6.8M 5) Miami J. Brown and ROB Wiliams - 11.8M for Bam- 32.6M and C. Martin-6.8M 6) Memphis J. Brown and M. Muscala- 3.5M for J. Jackson Jr- 27.1M and Z. Williams 4.8M all trades work for salary matching with the CBA . Salarys are from spotrac ** another one Brown to the Nets for M. Bridges -21.7M and D> Finney-Smith- 13.9M I like #1, and partially 3. Don't want to trade Brogdon, though |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 23, 2023 12:22:30 GMT -5
Yep, he's from there:
“One reason the Hawks are trying to unload (John) Collins is to get that cap space and be in position to add someone, another star, with Trae,” one Eastern Conference executive said. “It is not easy to get free agents to Atlanta but Jaylen Brown would be different—they want to be in position, at least, to make a move if he wants to be there. I think there is not question they are watching the situation with him. Closely.” – via Sean Deveney @ Heavy.com
Top Rumors, Free Agency, Jaylen Brown, Atlanta Hawks, Boston Celtics
And, more than that, Brown is known for being tough-willed and for being willing to seek out his own unique path. Downplaying his enthusiasm for remaining with his current team is in character for him. “Jaylen is a smart man, he kind of sees through some of the BS of the league,” one NBA executive told Heavy Sports. “It would be of no advantage to him to come out and say, ‘Hell yeah, I want to stay in Boston and I’ll sign whatever they give me.’ That might be the popular answer, but he is not going to give the popular answer. Things change fast in the NBA, and who knows where they might be in two years?” – via Sean Deveney @ Heavy.com
Free Agency, Jaylen Brown, Boston Celtics
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Post by drboogiebone on Mar 23, 2023 12:30:15 GMT -5
I read what he said, and took it all as posturing. The topic was resigning with Boston, in which we've heard these type of statements before. He does have knowledge, people, situations, and history around him to pull from. People like Brogdon, and Blake who've mentioned numerous times that the pasture here in Beantown is greener then most anywhere else. As well as Horford taking more $ to go and be completely unhappy with his situation. Hopefully Jaylen is smart enough to realize that he has something special here in Boston. And like E8 said... you find hate EVERYWHERE. In many different forms too. For some people I know, racism has been the easiest to deal with. Hell, his issues may even be more internal than external. I like Jaylen, and hope he's not making more out of things then he should. As the saying goes, keep it simple stupid. This is only a small faction of your life. If he truly wants to win, this is the best situation he can hope for. Just get rid of Mazz...
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Post by Admin on Mar 23, 2023 12:52:09 GMT -5
Does he have to make first team all NBA, or any team? I love Jaylen, but he has to realize he's not the best player on the team. Tatum gets all the glory because he's the best player. He's upset at being picked third?? No one but Danny Ainge knew who he was. AND, both Simmons and Ingram have been traded by their original teams. We have kept him and developed him. I'm not sure this is fixable, in his mind. He's sounding like a mini-Kyrie. An easily offended person who needs to realize he is an employee of a team. Like we all are. He can't be a "partner", that's just crazy.
Any of the three All-NBA squads will make him eligible this summer. No reason to postpone till next year cuz if he gets injured and doesn't make then he forfeits the big payday and the best he can do is reup here for 5 yrs as a FA.
I don't think it's being picked 3rd in that draft as much as the booing that the pick got from season ticket holders who had no idea who he was and really expected the pick to be traded for Jimmy Butler (?).
In 2016 Ainge offered 2 1sts for Butler and was turned down
then in 2017 the Bulls offered Butler to Ainge for just 1 1st rd pick ... of course that was the 3rd pk after we traded down from #1 with Sixers and took Tatum with #3.
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 23, 2023 22:43:52 GMT -5
Does he have to make first team all NBA, or any team? I love Jaylen, but he has to realize he's not the best player on the team. Tatum gets all the glory because he's the best player. He's upset at being picked third?? No one but Danny Ainge knew who he was. AND, both Simmons and Ingram have been traded by their original teams. We have kept him and developed him. I'm not sure this is fixable, in his mind. He's sounding like a mini-Kyrie. An easily offended person who needs to realize he is an employee of a team. Like we all are. He can't be a "partner", that's just crazy. Sometimes the smartest people create their own problems...let's hope Jaylen pulls his head out of his arse soon...yeah, he is the guy who is most solid on our team...but wait a minute, maybe he is not...buddies like Kyrie and Kanye?...and I cant believe I have to admit I know who Kanye is...a total POS...name one song that he did that anyone, and I mean, anyone would know... |
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Post by kivancb on Mar 24, 2023 6:19:11 GMT -5
Does he have to make first team all NBA, or any team? I love Jaylen, but he has to realize he's not the best player on the team. Tatum gets all the glory because he's the best player. He's upset at being picked third?? No one but Danny Ainge knew who he was. AND, both Simmons and Ingram have been traded by their original teams. We have kept him and developed him. I'm not sure this is fixable, in his mind. He's sounding like a mini-Kyrie. An easily offended person who needs to realize he is an employee of a team. Like we all are. He can't be a "partner", that's just crazy. Sometimes the smartest people create their own problems...let's hope Jaylen pulls his head out of his arse soon...yeah, he is the guy who is most solid on our team...but wait a minute, maybe he is not...buddies like Kyrie and Kanye?...and I cant believe I have to admit I know who Kanye is...a total POS...name one song that he did that anyone, and I mean, anyone would know... to be fair to Kanye, his first 10 year run as a solo artist (2004-2014) easily made him the best rapper EVER, and it's not even close. Him turning out to be a complete douchebag later is another story... |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 24, 2023 11:16:26 GMT -5
With Jaylen Brown, there’s no doubt that all of this chatter was coming from outside the organization since it obviously serves the Celtics no good to feed into any of it. The contrast in his remarks is an interesting point to and something I’ll be asking him to clarify at some point as well. With that said, Brown has every right to feel the way he does based on how much his name has been thrown around in the last few years at various points in trade deals. Each side has their reasons for how they handled it but it’s certainly a situation where some scars may remain. Whether or not those factor into his future remains to be seen. – via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers
Free Agency, Trade, Jaylen Brown, Boston Celtics
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Post by kdp59 on Mar 24, 2023 11:27:40 GMT -5
With Jaylen Brown, there’s no doubt that all of this chatter was coming from outside the organization since it obviously serves the Celtics no good to feed into any of it. The contrast in his remarks is an interesting point to and something I’ll be asking him to clarify at some point as well. With that said, Brown has every right to feel the way he does based on how much his name has been thrown around in the last few years at various points in trade deals. Each side has their reasons for how they handled it but it’s certainly a situation where some scars may remain. Whether or not those factor into his future remains to be seen. – via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers Free Agency, Trade, Jaylen Brown, Boston Celtics I think we all can see a no trade clause will be the next deal Brown signs..no matter where that is |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 24, 2023 12:08:04 GMT -5
If you fancy Ingram, Brown for Ingram straight up works
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Post by drboogiebone on Mar 24, 2023 14:04:56 GMT -5
Yeah i know . I tried to spin this and you even helped. Well after supper i have a response for Boss and Brown.. Brown ain't near as 'Smart' as he thinks he is...getting sick of him pretty quick... and I am a long hair Californian...supposed 'liberal'...It's Ok man... we're willing to look past that...  |
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Post by Admin on Mar 24, 2023 14:30:38 GMT -5
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Post by fierce on Mar 24, 2023 18:11:33 GMT -5
I still say no way Jaylen walks away from a 5-year max from the Celtics.
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Post by Admin on Mar 24, 2023 20:30:19 GMT -5
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Post by kdp59 on Mar 25, 2023 8:07:25 GMT -5
WOW, I never thought of GS for some reason!! that one actually makes sense AND we all know the Warriors will spend whatever on top of it. J. Poole and Kuminga for Brown might be the best Boston could get back if he forces a trade. |
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 25, 2023 9:14:22 GMT -5
I still say no way Jaylen walks away from a 5-year max from the Celtics. I sure hope so... |
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 25, 2023 9:17:52 GMT -5
Sometimes the smartest people create their own problems...let's hope Jaylen pulls his head out of his arse soon...yeah, he is the guy who is most solid on our team...but wait a minute, maybe he is not...buddies like Kyrie and Kanye?...and I cant believe I have to admit I know who Kanye is...a total POS...name one song that he did that anyone, and I mean, anyone would know... to Kanye, his first 10 year run as a solo artist (2004-2014) easily made him the best rapper EVER, and it's not even close. Him turning out to be a complete douchebag later is another story... , I know very little of rap, other than it rhymes with crap...and I had to tell my older son to always lower the volume because it was not appropriate for the little girl next door....it is too bad, my son started off liking Offspring and stuff like that... Did like that movie about the kid from Detroit though...cool that he actually starred in it...oh yeah, Eminem, LMNOP.... |
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2023 19:45:17 GMT -5
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