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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 22:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2016 22:19:42 GMT -5
Why not wait for him to become a free agent? He'll cost you enough to sign next season with or w/o giving up the pick now ... is the pick worth it for a 1 season rental?
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 22:22:26 GMT -5
Of course I would want him resigned by Philly and traded to us first! No picks for rentals here!
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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2016 22:24:38 GMT -5
If he'll do that then I'm on board ... unless DA can convince them to take our pick or the Clippers 2019 that would be even better!
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 22:29:09 GMT -5
I think we could get more out of Okafor and Noel than Philly does. I would give up all Brooklyn picks for both guys. But not Jaylen Brown. They could roll with Mickey,Zeller and Olynyk and our Brooklyn picks. We start Thomas,Bradley,Crowder,Horford,Noel. Okafor plays big minutes off the bench for Noel and Horford. He starts when Horford inevitably misses games. Horford's role will go down as Okafor grows up.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 23:13:25 GMT -5
Bench is: Rozier,Smart,Brown,Jerebko,Okafor.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 23:29:29 GMT -5
Avery Bradley has built a stellar rep without ever having a shot blocker like this to amplify him! Shot blockers are to defense what an assist man is to offense. They make others better!
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 23:36:08 GMT -5
Scoring machine but not a 2 way player like Noel!
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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2016 23:43:05 GMT -5
I think we could get more out of Okafor and Noel than Philly does. I would give up all Brooklyn picks for both guys. But not Jaylen Brown. They could roll with Mickey,Zeller and Olynyk and our Brooklyn picks. We start Thomas,Bradley,Crowder,Horford,Noel. Okafor plays big minutes off the bench for Noel and Horford. He starts when Horford inevitably misses games. Horford's role will go down as Okafor grows up. You must have broken open the tequila a day early! Weren't you just advocating holding onto the 2017 pick for a sure thing in that draft? I can part with Mickey and even Oly under the right circumstances but BRK's 2017 pick ... ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ? Come back in the morning when you're sober and edit the post as needed ... our secret!
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 23:45:34 GMT -5
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 23:48:13 GMT -5
I think we could get more out of Okafor and Noel than Philly does. I would give up all Brooklyn picks for both guys. But not Jaylen Brown. They could roll with Mickey,Zeller and Olynyk and our Brooklyn picks. We start Thomas,Bradley,Crowder,Horford,Noel. Okafor plays big minutes off the bench for Noel and Horford. He starts when Horford inevitably misses games. Horford's role will go down as Okafor grows up. You must have broken open the tequila a day early! Weren't you just advocating holding onto the 2017 pick for a sure thing in that draft? I can part with Mickey and even Oly under the right circumstances but BRK's 2017 pick ... ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ? Come back in the morning when you're sober and edit the post as needed ... our secret! Lol. If Danny can pull it off. Cash in those Brooklyn picks for some SURE young talent! Okafor AND Noel for 2017 and 2018 otherwise just put 2018 on the table for 1 of them. P.S.- Sunday is tequila day?
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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2016 23:53:21 GMT -5
It depends upon your time zone ... but usually Saturday Night
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 22, 2016 23:54:15 GMT -5
Gotcha.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jul 23, 2016 9:05:38 GMT -5
It depends upon your time zone ... but usually Saturday Night What does that icon mean?
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2016 21:51:28 GMT -5
For those willing to overpay for Okafor or Noel ... Danny was right! www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/07/eastern-rumors-j-r-smith-sixers-knicks.htmlBryan Colangelo’s overt attempts to trade either Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor has backfired, Mike Sielski of the Philadelphia Inquirer opines. The Sixers’ GM should have taken a more low-key approach and now has undermined his ability to trade either big man, Sielski continues. Both young players know that Colangelo is shopping them, and while it makes sense to now keep them into the regular season to improve their trade value, that might lead to discord in the locker room, Sielski adds.
www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20160724_Colangelo_doesn_t_help_Sixers_in_game_of_offseason_poker.html
"By staying the course, we still have some things to do to this roster to make it more balanced," Colangelo said. "I've talked about roster balance being a key objective."
This was not the first time he'd spoken like this, and for an executive whose father remains one of the NBA's most powerful people and has long had a fitting nickname - "The Godfather" - Colangelo has a bewildering habit of letting people outside the Sixers' inner circle know what he's thinking. To achieve that precious roster balance, to make room for the arrivals of Simmons, Joel Embiid, and Dario Saric, Colangelo has made it clear that Jahlil Okafor and Nerlens Noel are on the market. So now, nearly a month after the draft, it shouldn't be surprising that the Sixers' roster remains unbalanced, that neither Okafor nor Noel has gone anywhere and that Colangelo has cost himself leverage in his attempts to get maximum value in return for either player.
What he's succeeded in doing is this: He has taken a situation that was already complex, that required patience, and has made it more tenuous, more fraught with peril for the Sixers' future. If the impulse to trade either Okafor or Noel is a natural one - last season suggested that the two were incompatible when they were on the floor together - Colangelo and the Sixers still would be better served by fighting it. The argument for trading one or both of them has always been based on the notion that each one's value was at its peak and would only drop once Embiid and Saric started taking minutes from them. That notion is false.
Noel doesn't need 35 minutes a night to demonstrate that his awkward-as-an-Erector-set jump shot has improved, that he can give a defender reason to guard him 10 to 15 feet from the basket, that he can be more than an excellent weak-side shot blocker. And for all of Okafor's refined post skills, he still has to show that he's capable of growth on the court and off. He has to become a better defensive player, a better rebounder, a harder worker. And after that succession of troubling incidents last season - the fight in Boston, the 108-mph dash across the Ben Franklin Bridge, a confrontation at an Old City nightclub in which someone drew a gun on him - he has to prove, to the Sixers and the rest of the league, that he can keep his nose clean.
Time is the best and most effective answer to these questions, the best way for Colangelo and the Sixers to learn what they really have in Okafor, Noel, Simmons, Embiid, the entire team. But by making his intentions so obvious, Colangelo has undermined himself. Okafor and Noel now know that the Sixers are shopping them, and that's a problem, because even though it makes sense for the Sixers to keep both players into the regular season, Colangelo has created conditions for a disgruntled locker room the longer that Okafor and Noel stay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 2:01:23 GMT -5
Noel for Olynyk and Rozier. Philly gets a point guard material and a 4 that can better fit with their 5. However, if this was a possibility, signing Zeller will be head scratcher. I just think that the Celts roster has settled down and once they fill the 15th spot, this is what we are looking at for the opening day. The Celts will be looking to develop excellence from this roster.
Looking for Rozier to step up well and for Brown to become a solid contributor. Zeller and Olynyk are likely odd men out.
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Post by Admin on Sept 26, 2016 13:32:36 GMT -5
On and On it goes ... Nerlens Noel: Sixers’ Center Logjam Is “Silly” September 26th 2016 at 8:37am CST by Luke AdamsWith Joel Embiid poised to make his NBA debut this season, the Sixers are stacked at the center position, as Embiid joins Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor in the rotation. The logjam at the position has resulted in plenty of trade rumors involving Noel and Okafor this offseason, but the team has yet to make a move. And as Keith Pompey of The Philadelphia Inquirer, Noel is starting to publicly question when a move will happen. “I think it’s just silly… this situation that we are in now with three starting centers,” Noel said. “With the departure of [former GM] Sam Hinkie, I would have figured that management would be able to get something done this summer. … I think something needs to happen.” According to Noel, he’s not asking to be traded himself, or demanding that the Sixers make a move immediately. However, it sounds as if he views a deal as inevitable, since it doesn’t make sense for the club to play out the season with all three players, assuming they all stay healthy. According to Noel, it’s the equivalent of having “three starting quarterbacks.” “I feel like it definitely needs to be figured out,” Noel said. “I think at the end of the day, again, you have three starting-caliber centers. And it’s just not going to work to anybody’s advantage having that on the same team. That’s how I’m looking at it. I’m not opposed to anything, but things need to be situated.” Although GM Bryan Colangelo has suggested in the past that heading into the season with Okafor, Noel, and Embiid all on the roster isn’t necessarily ideal, the Sixers also like all three players and don’t want to sell one of them for below market value. Appearing on Adrian Wojnarowski’s podcast last week, Colangelo denied aggressively shopping Okafor and Noel, adding that the team’s desire to make a deal has been overstated and calling it a “high-class problem” to have three promising young centers. Noel tells Pompey that he knows he “was shopped,” though that could be a question of semantics — it’s not clear whether the Sixers were instigating trade discussions or simply talking to teams that called to ask about their bigs. According to Pompey, Noel’s name has come up in trade talks with the Celtics, Suns, Hawks, and Rockets, but Philadelphia turned down multiple offers for the 22-year-old. Another source tells Pompey that the Sixers have also spoken to the Raptors and Spurs. While it remains possible that the Sixers will make a move prior to the regular season, the club had been hoping to make it until at least December 15, per Steve Kyler of Basketball Insiders (Twitter links). That would give Okafor and Embiid time to prove they’re fully healthy, and it would allow players who signed new deals this offseason to become trade-eligible, opening the door for more possible scenarios. www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/09/nerlens-noel-sixers-center-logjam-is-silly.html
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 17:55:52 GMT -5
Noel for Olynyk and Rozier. Philly gets a point guard material and a 4 that can better fit with their 5. However, if this was a possibility, signing Zeller will be head scratcher. I just think that the Celts roster has settled down and once they fill the 15th spot, this is what we are looking at for the opening day. The Celts will be looking to develop excellence from this roster. Looking for Rozier to step up well and for Brown to become a solid contributor. Zeller and Olynyk are likely odd men out. Olynyk and Rozier won't get ya a sniff of Noel. As much as i like both i would do it in a minute. You convince Phila and im all in. Signing Zeller is a head scratcher and will be till he's traded. Stevens demostrated last year he has little love for him. Stevens likes three point shooters at all the positions not sure he knows how to play Noel or Zeller..
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Post by Admin on Sept 26, 2016 18:05:03 GMT -5
Noel for Olynyk and Rozier. Philly gets a point guard material and a 4 that can better fit with their 5. However, if this was a possibility, signing Zeller will be head scratcher. I just think that the Celts roster has settled down and once they fill the 15th spot, this is what we are looking at for the opening day. The Celts will be looking to develop excellence from this roster. Looking for Rozier to step up well and for Brown to become a solid contributor. Zeller and Olynyk are likely odd men out. Olynyk and Rozier won't get ya a sniff of Noel. As much as i like both i would do it in a minute. You convince Phila and im all in. Signing Zeller is a head scratcher and will be till he's traded. Stevens demostrated last year he has little love for him. Stevens likes three point shooters at all the positions not sure he knows how to play Noel or Zeller.. Of course you would. After all, you are willing to give up both Thomas & Crowder for Noel or Okafor ... Seriously? You think it takes that much to get one of them? If that's what it takes, no wonder DA has walked away! celticshomecourt.freeforums.net/thread/222/send-thomas-crowder-phila-okafor
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 13:19:56 GMT -5
Well giving up Rozier isn't easy on my part. Thomas and Crowder might be a little much but one of the two with our first and second rounders. Okafor is a 20/ 10 man and probably will get only better on D. I used to lean toward Noel but Okafor might turn out the better player.
No Brooklyn pick for either one. We probably need Crowder until Brown proves himself. Crowders stock isn't quite as high as Thomas but might be higher in a couple years. Thomas's stock will diminish in the next couple years. The Brinks truck won't be making a stop in Boston for Thomas Ainge isn't that foolish.
My guess is Stevens is the stumbling block not Ainge. Neither Noel or Okafor throw up enough ugly threes to make Stevens happy. Bottom line no inside game no inside defense no contender.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 19:59:35 GMT -5
Well giving up Rozier isn't easy on my part. Thomas and Crowder might be a little much but one of the two with our first and second rounders. Okafor is a 20/ 10 man and probably will get only better on D. I used to lean toward Noel but Okafor might turn out the better player. No Brooklyn pick for either one. We probably need Crowder until Brown proves himself. Crowders stock isn't quite as high as Thomas but might be higher in a couple years. Thomas's stock will diminish in the next couple years. The Brinks truck won't be making a stop in Boston for Thomas Ainge isn't that foolish. My guess is Stevens is the stumbling block not Ainge. Neither Noel or Okafor throw up enough ugly threes to make Stevens happy. Bottom line no inside game no inside defense no contender. It is nice that you have helped E8 keep this board active during the off season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 20:27:59 GMT -5
Thanks Prakash E8 deserves all the credit however lots of good basketball facts posted the past summer. Good to see ya chime in also. Despite my constant negativity i look for some progress this year. Mainly Rozier Smart Brown and Olynic in that order.
Along the same lines.
Hedley are you ok?
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Post by Admin on Sept 27, 2016 23:38:02 GMT -5
Well giving up Rozier isn't easy on my part. Thomas and Crowder might be a little much but one of the two with our first and second rounders. Okafor is a 20/ 10 man and probably will get only better on D. I used to lean toward Noel but Okafor might turn out the better player. No Brooklyn pick for either one. We probably need Crowder until Brown proves himself. Crowders stock isn't quite as high as Thomas but might be higher in a couple years. Thomas's stock will diminish in the next couple years. The Brinks truck won't be making a stop in Boston for Thomas Ainge isn't that foolish. My guess is Stevens is the stumbling block not Ainge. Neither Noel or Okafor throw up enough ugly threes to make Stevens happy. Bottom line no inside game no inside defense no contender. Maybe this idea works for you ... Not sure BS would want to lose one of his few good 3-pt shooters but he will be looking for Horford to take more than he has ever taken before so maybe Oly is expendable. celticshomecourt.freeforums.net/thread/258/todays-breaking-news-nerlens-noel?page=3&scrollTo=7286As Ive said previously on this forum, Olynyk is one of our most tradeable assets.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 22:22:49 GMT -5
No of course he doesn't want to give up a three point shooters.
You need a balanced attact to win a championship. Stevens i don't think fully understands that. Ainge knowns very well he played on what probably was the most balanced Celtic team ever.
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2016 18:40:31 GMT -5
Simmons' injury likely ends talk of Noel-to-Celtics dealBOSTON – It would have been a fairy tale come true for many to see Massachusetts native Nerlens Noel donning a real, non-Photoshopped Celtics jersey this season. So much for dreaming. The likelihood of that happening anytime soon – or ever – doesn’t look good after the Sixers suffered yet another injury to one of its young big men. No. 1 overall pick Ben Simmons sustained a right foot injury that will reportedly keep the 6-foot-10 rookie out for at least three months. While his injury certainly is a huge blow to Philadelphia’s overall depth, it still doesn’t add a tremendous amount of clarity to what’s still a pretty clogged up middle. Noel, Jahlil Okafor and Joel Embiid all play center, although Noel can slide over and play some at power forward.The cluster of bigs was at the heart of Noel’s frustration with the Sixers and his role in their plans. “I feel like it definitely needs to be figured out," Noel told the Philadelphia Inquirer recently. "At the end of the day, again, you have three starting-caliber centers. And it's just not going to work to anybody's advantage having that on the same team. That's how I'm looking at it. I'm not opposed to anything, but things need to be situated." Noel has been clear from the jump that with the glut of big men on the roster, all he wanted was clarity as to how Philadelphia would proceed and what his role would be going forward. But multiple sources told CSNNE.com that the 6-foot-11 from Malden, Mass., was open to the idea of being traded and that the Celtics were a team he wouldn’t mind joining. However, that becomes more of a moot point in light of Simmons’ injury which will mark the fourth straight year that Philadelphia will be without one of its prized, lottery-pick (top-14) big men due to an injury for an extended period of time. Noel fans should soak in Tuesday’s preseason game between Boston and Philadelphia. Not only because it’ll be the first glimpse at this year’s Celtics team against someone other than itself. But also because it’ll be one of the few times Celtics fans will see Noel this season on the floor with the Celtics, although him still being in a Sixers uniform probably isn’t what you had in mind.
www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/simmons-injury-likely-ends-talk-noel-celtics-deal
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