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Post by cgreensmashmachine on Jul 21, 2016 18:03:21 GMT -5
What does this mean? Sadly, no blockbuster trades are in the works.
What does this mean then for Tyler Zeller?
Are we going to rescind his QO tomorrow or Saturday, since we won't need to Sign And Trade him?
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 22, 2016 10:51:31 GMT -5
It means that counting Brown ( not yet signed), we will have 13 players under contract. Bentil, Jackson and Nader remain unsigned. Perhaps they will sign Zeller. I don't think it means he's "done" by any stretch. Having Yaba go overseas was inevitable, and now DA has one less thing to worry about.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 11:33:08 GMT -5
Drafting and stashing your first two bigs drafted makes little sense with our desperate need for good bigs.
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Post by croc on Jul 22, 2016 12:42:01 GMT -5
It does if he'd has other bigs in mind all along, and have these two develop overseas.
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Post by rkarp1 on Jul 22, 2016 12:47:35 GMT -5
Drafting and stashing your first two bigs drafted makes little sense with our desperate need for good bigs. in todays NBA, Horford, Oly and Amir (on two good feet) are "good bigs". One more would be nice, and that one more was never Yabu. Zeller would be fine. He knows Brad's style and Brad knows Zeller. I have heard a little more info on Zizic and do think he can be a serviceable big in the league in due time. I do think Yabu also has some upside. Nice footwork. Great hands. Knows how to use his body and really understands the game. Needs to get his body in better shape and obviously improve his defense and rebounding...but guy could be a player down the road. Dreams of Draymond Green are too high imo...certainly the body type makes one think of Diaw. Much different player than Sully imo...other than they are both not in shape |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 22, 2016 15:47:55 GMT -5
As I've said before - we had a ton of draft picks, and not all of them could make the roster. It was merely a question of roster space. Perhaps Danny would have taken Kurmaz under different circumstances. But he KNEW that kid wanted to come over right away. So, he took two kids he liked, early, and put them overseas for a year or two (As I've said, I think Zizic is better than Zurbac, and should come over next year - he can take Amir and/KO's role)
Yabu will grow more in China than in the D-League, and we still hold his rights.
I'm perfectly fine, also, with keeping Zeller. He was up and down last year, and played himself out of the rotation. That still leaves Bentil, Jackson and Nader. OF the 3, Nader played the best in SL. Danny is biding his time right now, keeping space open and looking for the right deal. If he does not find it, there will be tough decisions to make. Like - would Jackson and/Bentil play overseas for a year? What about Nader?
I personally hope Bentil makes the roster. He and Zeller would give us enough bigs to compete in the East. And let's not forget Mickey, who everyone (but me) thought should have played a lot last year.
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Post by jgallag1 on Jul 22, 2016 19:08:56 GMT -5
Drafting and stashing your first two bigs drafted makes little sense with our desperate need for good bigs. It does when you realize he's playing the long game right now. He's going to put together as good a team as he can right now, without sacrificing the future for it. If a deal comes along that's a net win for the C's, he'll make it. If not, he's happy to use the Nets picks on potential stars, and use the rest on building blocks. He thinks those two kids can be future key rotation guys, and he got them. I'm fine with that. I still think he could have gotten Yabusele(35) later on in the draft, and the way things shook out, I would have rather had him, Deyonte Davis(31) and Korkmaz(16), but if this was his guy and he thought someone would take him...I'm willing to wait it out. |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 22, 2016 19:14:44 GMT -5
Drafting and stashing your first two bigs drafted makes little sense with our desperate need for good bigs. It does when you realize he's playing the long game right now. He's going to put together as good a team as he can right now, without sacrificing the future for it. If a deal comes along that's a net win for the C's, he'll make it. If not, he's happy to use the Nets picks on potential stars, and use the rest on building blocks. He thinks those two kids can be future key rotation guys, and he got them. I'm fine with that. I still think he could have gotten Yabusele(35) later on in the draft, and the way things shook out, I would have rather had him, Deyonte Davis(31) and Korkmaz(16), but if this was his guy and he thought someone would take him...I'm willing to wait it out. I agree Yabu was a stretch at 16 - but - as you said he's playing the long game, and we had no roster spots. Korkmaz is playing in the NBA this year, as is Davis. Who would we have to get rid of to have those two? We don't have enough room as it is!! |
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Post by jgallag1 on Jul 22, 2016 19:20:47 GMT -5
Honestly, I would have rather had Korkmaz and Diallo based on potential, but there's ways to do it. Diallo would have gone down to the D-League, and I think Korkmaz would have been able to play on this team. He could have been a really good fit. It would have been nice to see him in summer league, but I believe he skipped it to concentrate on Rio.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 19:53:08 GMT -5
It does if he'd has other bigs in mind all along, and have these two develop overseas. Yes that makes perfect sense should have included that in my comment. Unlees Cousins bolts it llooks like Okafor or hopefully Noel. After that it's second tier players whom we have plenty of. I'm not convinced the 76ers won't get a better offer from another team. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 19:57:40 GMT -5
We don't have enough room? I might be wrong but i thought we have only 13 spots filled with two open.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 22, 2016 20:25:46 GMT -5
Counting Brown, who is unsigned, we have 13 players under contract. That does not count Zizic, Yaba, Bentil, Jackson and Nader. AND Zeller is still out there as well. So, AS I SAID, they did not have room to sign, or even make, all the draft picks. We had to trade two of them (31 and 35). You can only have 15 players under contract once the season starts.
Want a link for that one, too??
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 22, 2016 20:29:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 9:42:19 GMT -5
We have 13 players under contract with Brown. The ones you mentioned are playing overseas or will be d league bound all year. We have two spots open there is nothing to debate. Spin your BS ANY WAY U WANT.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 23, 2016 10:48:34 GMT -5
We have 13 players under contract with Brown. The ones you mentioned are playing overseas or will be d league bound all year. We have two spots open there is nothing to debate. Spin your BS ANY WAY U WANT. Now you have a crystal ball. All we know right now is that Yaba and Zizic are playing overseas. We do NOT know the status of Jackson, Bentil, Nader and Zeller. While it is true that IF any of the first 3 play overseas, we retain their rights, it is also true that in order to be assigned to the D League, they need to sign a contract. IF they sign a contract, that counts as one of the 15. I am trying to gather further information, but I'm fairly confident that they need to be on the roster to be assigned to the D League. You, of course, could help by countering my argument with FACT - but you won't! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 10:39:36 GMT -5
There are eight different paths a player can take to the NBA D-League:
1) NBA teams can assign players to their NBA D-League affiliate and recall them at any time.
2) NBA teams can draft players and sign them to NBA D-League contracts, thus retaining their rights through the “Draft Rights Player” rule.
3) NBA teams can designate up to four players that they cut during training camp as “affiliate players,” meaning those players will join that team’s NBA D-League affiliate (should the players choose to sign into the NBA D-League). These players are signed under contract with the league rather than the team, however, meaning they are technically free agents who can be called up to any of the 30 NBA teams.
4) NBA D-League teams hold local tryouts each offseason and can invite up to five players from these tryouts to their training camps.
5) The NBA D-League holds a draft every year consisting of nearly 200 players who have signed contracts with the league. In 2014, the draft consisted of eight rounds.
6) Players who return to the NBA D-League are, by rule, re-acquired by the teams that they played for within the last two seasons (Returning Players).
7) Once the NBA D-League season begins, players who sign NBA D-League contracts are placed into a rotating waiver pool so that teams can claim them.
8) If a player from high school, college or overseas enters the NBA D-League without ever having declared for the NBA Draft, he will also join the waiver pool. That player remains NBA Draft-eligible but is not eligible to be called up to the NBA.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jul 24, 2016 12:11:24 GMT -5
Yes, I saw when employee 8 posted that. We were debating #2 and #3, right? Which is kind of moot now, as of the rash of signings yesterday. Bentil is a partial deal, and according to #3, we could lose him. Jackson falls under #3, we will keep his rights for at least this year. I think Nader will also be #3.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 12:14:06 GMT -5
Ok
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