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Post by croc on Aug 6, 2021 19:35:11 GMT -5
Tradeable contracts will be important for our future. Having some mid-teens to twenty million dollar long-term contracts, when combined, make for good assets in a trade for a high-salary player. This was brought up during the Hayward / Turner debacle. Even with Turner contract being 'over valued'.
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Post by dfries13 on Aug 6, 2021 20:35:38 GMT -5
Sign Smart and flip him for Lauri Isn't Smart asking around 5 mil more a year than Lauri . Smart is asking 4/80 offered 4/78 i seen Lauri is asking for 15 to 17 mil maybe a bit lessi thought..... Doesn't help the Bulls cap space does it..? Bulls need bigs a lot more than guard..
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Post by dfries13 on Aug 6, 2021 20:37:59 GMT -5
BRobb is the best. Puts it all out there right to the point. Who is BRobb the ''twitter''' guy>? I;m not so sharp today..
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Post by Admin on Aug 6, 2021 21:37:46 GMT -5
Sign Smart and flip him for Lauri Isn't Smart asking around 5 mil more a year than Lauri . Smart is asking 4/80 offered 4/78 i seen Lauri is asking for 15 to 17 mil maybe a bit lessi thought..... Doesn't help the Bulls cap space does it..? Bulls need bigs a lot more than guard.. Smart offered $17MM extension ... $17MM should satisfy Lauri otherwise he'll be stuck in Chicago on the bench cashing the QO $9MM. He better smarten up quick or he'd gonna be the next Nerlens Noel.
We can always swap Thompson & and filler. They really could use another center with just Vucevic and Bradley there.
Oh, Brian Robb is the writer for MassLive Celtics now - he used to write for the Athletic I believe or maybe Boston Sports Journal.
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Post by cole on Aug 6, 2021 21:54:00 GMT -5
I was hearing on the karalis podcast that Schroeder is really regretting not taking his option. Nobody likes him and his stock is tanking. Sometimes it doesn't pay to bet on yourself
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Post by croc on Aug 7, 2021 4:22:17 GMT -5
BRobb wrote for BSJ and does some stuff on 98 .5 now writes for mass live.
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Post by kdp59 on Aug 7, 2021 10:09:11 GMT -5
Smart's better than than the fin.
stop it!
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Post by kyceltic on Aug 7, 2021 10:33:57 GMT -5
There's all kind of guards in college, who can play a little D, can't drive and can't shoot, and we're trying to give Smart 78mil, and he hasn't signed yet? He's dumber than I thought!
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Post by elvissurfs on Aug 7, 2021 10:48:13 GMT -5
Dennis Schroder in negotiations with Celtics The Lakers free agent guard Dennis Schroder watched money dry up after reportedly declining a four-year, $80-million extension last year with LA. Boston is limited in what it can offer. By Bobby Manning
Michael Scotto reported that the Celtics would utilize a non-taxpayer mid level exception for a one-year deal, or two years with a player option. He wrote “the Celtics and Schroder have interest in a short-term deal.” That’s because Boston is currently limited in what it can offer Schroder. With no cap space, only some form of the mid-level exception is available to Brad Stevens. Once the delayed Tristan Thompson trade inevitably goes through and lands Kris Dunn and Bruno Fernando in Boston, the Celtics are out of roster spots following yesterday’s Enes Kanter signing. So what’s the shoe to drop that could usher Schroder into Boston? Adam Himmelsbach initially reported the Celtics could reroute Dunn’s one-year, $5 million contract to open a roster spot. That could be part of what delayed the original deal from happening before the Kanter trade exception expired that Dunn would’ve fit into for Boston in the previous league year. If Stevens successfully clears Dunn’s salary, it would free the Celtics down to roughly $132-million in salary. That would be enough to free up a one-year, $9,536,000 contract that would provide Schroder a competitive salary for this season and get him back into free agency next year — while allowing Boston to keep its summer, 2022 cap space free. A full mid-level deal for Schroder would hard cap the Celtics at $143-million though, hampering their flexibility throughout the regular season into next year’s draft. A $5.9-million taxpayer mid-level exception would cost the Celtics less in luxury tax this season and avoid a hard cap. It’s unclear if that would be enough to land Schroder in Boston, but given his market dry-up it just might be for the playing time Boston could provide. A sign-and-trade to land him in Boston is all but doubtful, given that the Celtics would have to sign Schroder to a three-year contract to acquire him via sign-and-trade.
Admin Comment: It would be poetic justice for us to get a PG for the taxpayer MLE after the Knicks got Kemba for $8MM/yr
Pretty big fall for Kemba, the $34 million man...
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Post by dfries13 on Aug 7, 2021 10:50:36 GMT -5
Isn't Smart asking around 5 mil more a year than Lauri . Smart is asking 4/80 offered 4/78 i seen Lauri is asking for 15 to 17 mil maybe a bit lessi thought..... Doesn't help the Bulls cap space does it..? Bulls need bigs a lot more than guard.. Smart offered $17MM extension ... $17MM should satisfy Lauri otherwise he'll be stuck in Chicago on the bench cashing the QO $9MM. He better smarten up quick or he'd gonna be the next Nerlens Noel.
We can always swap Thompson & and filler. They really could use another center with just Vucevic and Bradley there.
Oh, Brian Robb is the writer for MassLive Celtics now - he used to write for the Athletic I believe or maybe Boston Sports Journal.
Not sure if its just Smarts Lauri wants out of Chicago. Wonder why no one has picked him up yet? The Bulls must like Williams a whole lot more who they picked 4th. I've watched the Fin some the past few days. He's just an average rebounder at best and a below average defender. None of these moves. Schroder or the Fin excite me much.. Both are just enough to get us in the playoffs just to be eliminated rather quickly. At some point this madness to just maintain a .580 winning % only to be sent home early in the playoffs has to stop. When the war is all but lost.. Just lay down your weapons and wait for a better opportunity . It's quite obvious next year we won't come close to winning the final battle.. Live to fight another day.. Next year won't be our year.
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Post by elvissurfs on Aug 7, 2021 10:56:50 GMT -5
There's all kind of guards in college, who can play a little D, can't drive and can't shoot, and we're trying to give Smart 78mil, and he hasn't signed yet? He's dumber than I thought! Classic KY...thanks for the morning chuckle...you are indeed relentless...
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Post by dfries13 on Aug 7, 2021 10:57:08 GMT -5
There's all kind of guards in college, who can play a little D, can't drive and can't shoot, and we're trying to give Smart 78mil, and he hasn't signed yet? He's dumber than I thought! Smart will get 4/80 next year from several teams and he's knows it.. Fournier just got 4/78 and if you ask most anyone except you Smart is more valuable then Fournier.... If Boston wants him they should pay his asking price.. Do i care if he stays or goes? No
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Post by elvissurfs on Aug 7, 2021 10:59:55 GMT -5
I heard that Golden State's payroll is near $200 million...Guess if you pay the tax, you can do whatever you want...
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Post by croc on Aug 7, 2021 11:10:18 GMT -5
There's all kind of guards in college, who can play a little D, can't drive and can't shoot, and we're trying to give Smart 78mil, and he hasn't signed yet? He's dumber than I thought! Smart will get 4/80 next year from several teams and he's knows it.. Fournier just got 4/78 and if you ask most anyone except you Smart is more valuable then Fournier.... If Boston wants him they should pay his asking price.. Do i care if he stays or goes? No It's those magical moveable contracts like his Turners, Aaron Gordon. Guys they could have had in 2020. Smart doesn't happen this year.
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Post by dfries13 on Aug 7, 2021 11:23:59 GMT -5
Smart will get 4/80 next year from several teams and he's knows it.. Fournier just got 4/78 and if you ask most anyone except you Smart is more valuable then Fournier.... If Boston wants him they should pay his asking price.. Do i care if he stays or goes? No It's those magical moveable contracts like his Turners, Aaron Gordon. Guys they could have had in 2020. Smart doesn't happen this year. Might be a plus for Smart.. If he stays healthy he might get 4/90/. I'm no doctor and medicine is one subject i don't venture into.. My guess.. In two years his body will be simular to mine. A flick maybe two away from performing up to snuff...
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Post by Admin on Aug 7, 2021 11:31:02 GMT -5
Once Smart is signed he'll give us something to chum with at $17-20MM ... we could use a contract that size. Some here wanted Baynes over Kanter. Not sure when this happened but here's why he's out of the discussion: Aron Baynes Could Miss Next Seasonby Dana GauruderFree agent center Aron Baynes could miss next season due to a neck injury, Shams Charania of The Athletic tweets. Baynes, who played for the Raptors last season, has severe nerve damage in his neck and remains hospitalized. Baynes, a member of the Australian national team that took the bronze medal at the Olympics, initially injured his neck in a victory over Italy. He suffered a more significant injury slipping in the team bathroom. The Raptors waived Baynes on Wednesday before his $7.35MM salary for 2021/22 would’ve become fully guaranteed.
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Post by dfries13 on Aug 7, 2021 11:34:08 GMT -5
Smarts quote..
Stevens told me to take the three when i was open. It never occured to either just why they were open..
Just because we have 4 better three point shooters on the team it doesn't matter..
So folks want to bitch about Smart taking too many threes? We also complain about Tatum and Brown playing iso ball.
Who in the hell developed this approach? Bernie.
But alas.. Bernie gets promoted.. No friggin' way i'm buying into this shit show..
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There was an argument here between me and one unnamed poster . No it wasn't Pud
Smarts 3 % is getting better ever year.. Lets go to the numbers. He's becoming a better shooter 2021 33% 2020 34.7 2019 36 .0
Stevens math is just as bad as our resident math teacher.. I'm not sayin anymore and no need to argue because numbers don't lie....
So you can blame Smart or Timmy my guess was Timmy didn't develope Smart into the player he should be....
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Post by dfries13 on Aug 7, 2021 11:37:51 GMT -5
Once Smart is signed he'll give us something to chum with at $17-20MM ... we could use a contract that size. Some here wanted Baynes over Kanter. Not sure when this happened but here's why he's out of the discussion: Aron Baynes Could Miss Next Seasonby Dana GauruderFree agent center Aron Baynes could miss next season due to a neck injury, Shams Charania of The Athletic tweets. Baynes, who played for the Raptors last season, has severe nerve damage in his neck and remains hospitalized. Baynes, a member of the Australian national team that took the bronze medal at the Olympics, initially injured his neck in a victory over Italy. He suffered a more significant injury slipping in the team bathroom. The Raptors waived Baynes on Wednesday before his $7.35MM salary for 2021/22 would’ve become fully guaranteed.
Baynes and Kanter were let go.. Now we have one back and thinking about getting both? Why? There is severe damage i agree.. Most of it is from management,,,,
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Post by Admin on Aug 7, 2021 12:28:25 GMT -5
Once Smart is signed he'll give us something to chum with at $17-20MM ... we could use a contract that size. Some here wanted Baynes over Kanter. Not sure when this happened but here's why he's out of the discussion: Aron Baynes Could Miss Next Seasonby Dana GauruderFree agent center Aron Baynes could miss next season due to a neck injury, Shams Charania of The Athletic tweets. Baynes, who played for the Raptors last season, has severe nerve damage in his neck and remains hospitalized. Baynes, a member of the Australian national team that took the bronze medal at the Olympics, initially injured his neck in a victory over Italy. He suffered a more significant injury slipping in the team bathroom. The Raptors waived Baynes on Wednesday before his $7.35MM salary for 2021/22 would’ve become fully guaranteed.
Baynes and Kanter were let go.. Now we have one back and thinking about getting both?
Why? There is severe damage i agree.. Most of it is from management,,,,
No ... just explaining to those that preferred Baynes over Kanter why that wasn't considered. If anything, we may have too many centers now. I'd like to see a real PF and if we can't get Lauri on the cheap we could end up with Milsap. He's be a good Vet leader in the locker room but Lauri could turn his game around and have a much higher ceiling. Anderson also works for me but we need someone so JT isn't locked in there forever.
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Post by kyceltic on Aug 7, 2021 12:32:48 GMT -5
JT bringing home the gold, baby! Gold medal Jay!!
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Post by kyceltic on Aug 7, 2021 12:34:23 GMT -5
Baynes and Kanter were let go.. Now we have one back and thinking about getting both?
Why? There is severe damage i agree.. Most of it is from management,,,,
No ... just explaining to those that preferred Baynes over Kanter why that wasn't considered. If anything, we may have too many centers now. I'd like to see a real PF and if we can't get Lauri on the cheap we could end up with Milsap. He's be a good Vet leader in the locker room but Lauri could turn his game around and have a much higher ceiling. Anderson also works for me but we need someone so JT isn't locked in there forever.
Employee8, on top of his game!!
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Post by kyceltic on Aug 7, 2021 12:47:00 GMT -5
Summer league tomorrow at 3 central time!
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Post by Admin on Aug 7, 2021 13:23:42 GMT -5
No ... just explaining to those that preferred Baynes over Kanter why that wasn't considered. If anything, we may have too many centers now. I'd like to see a real PF and if we can't get Lauri on the cheap we could end up with Milsap. He's be a good Vet leader in the locker room but Lauri could turn his game around and have a much higher ceiling. Anderson also works for me but we need someone so JT isn't locked in there forever.
Employee8, on top of his game!!
Thnx!
It's shit like this misinformed blogger that fucks readers up ...
3 free agent signings that would boost fan morale by Andrew Hughes
Boston Celtics morale-boosting free agent #2: Aron Baynes
Aron Baynes was not the fit that the Toronto Tampa Raptors the 2018-19 champs were looking for on the floor last season, so instead of ponying up and giving the Aussie another $7 million, they cut him loose onto the free-agent market.
That could benefit him if he lands in the right spot. Both the Phoenix Suns and Boston Celtics proved to be such the past few years, but the Cs are the only team with a potential spot open after the defending Western Conference champions signed JaVale McGee to be their backup.
We saw Danny Ainge store several bigs on his depth chart, so perhaps Brad Stevens takes his lead and brings on another after the Enes Kanter signing this past week. Baynes would likely take a similar deal.
The fact that there is energy out there that the Cs might have made a mistake in choosing Kanter over Baynes means that Stevens should consider righting the ship and bringing on the bulky big from down under to once again man the middle alongside Al Horford in a pairing that once thrived in Beantown.
Cs fans would certainly be happy about it at the very least.
What a load of rubbish!
These writers can't be trusted ... they have no editor proof reading their often misspelled and poor grammatically designed sentences. They do no fact checking and regularly mislead their readers.
Here's another one that was just posted around Noon (Sat 8/7) despite the fact that Payton has agreed to sign with the Suns already ... WTF?
3 alternative FA point guard options not named Dennis Schroder by Andrew Hughes 4 hours ago
Free agency has been a whirlwind…well, for everyone besides the Boston Celtics at least. While Enes Kanter was brought back on a veteran’s minimum deal, the rest of the league was handing out an exorbitant sum of money.
Future financial flexibility has been the goal of the offseason, but that has left some Cs fans wanting more.
Like a starting point guard.
Marcus Smart is a fine option to man the floor general mantle for Boston considering his improved passing over the years (5.7 assists in 2020-21) and knack for avoiding turnovers. Still, finding a more natural playmaker to balance out the starting lineup and having a passing threat from multiple positions could be preferable for first-year coach Ime Udoka.
Here are 3 playmakers the Houdini has in mind that the Cs could pursue that don’t involve handing out a long-term contract to Dennis Schroder, who is quickly running out of options:
Boston Celtics free-agent target not named Dennis Schroder #1: Elfrid Payton
The New York Knicks now have former Celtics max point guard Kemba Walker playing for a deal worth less than the MLE. Couple that with re-signing Derrick Rose, and there is no room for Elfrid Payton on the depth chart in the Big Apple.
In Boston, there’s a spot for Payton to prove he could be closer to the player he was before the 2020-21 season, where his assist total–aka his meal ticket to being a starter in the NBA at all–was more than slashed in half to just three per game.
It’s low-risk, high-reward. If it doesn’t work out, nothing changes from right now. If it does? The cost to bring him on makes it a serious value signing.
Someone tell this writer that Payton has committed to the Suns a few days ago (8/5)
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Post by croc on Aug 7, 2021 13:45:02 GMT -5
JT bringing home the gold, baby! Gold medal Jay!! He was a significant contributor. One of the top 2 or 3 players on the team behind KD. So basically we know he can at least be a Robin on a championship caliber team...Which is both good and concerning.
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Post by kyceltic on Aug 7, 2021 13:56:25 GMT -5
JT bringing home the gold, baby! Gold medal Jay!! He was a significant contributor. One of the top 2 or 3 players on the team behind KD. So basically we know he can at least be a Robin on a championship caliber team...Which is both good and concerning. When KD is on your team, Robin is the best you can hope for!
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