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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 9:14:37 GMT -5
Last 10 games against teams with a winning record.. We won TWO. Stevens built his record up whipping on the bottom feeders.. Nothing has changed.... I tried to do the math myself, but since Stevens' first year the Celtics Record against teams above .500 is 132-186. The Last 5 years they are 104-107, not including this year. Looking back in the Eastern Conference, thats kind of right on par with the other top teams in the east. Teams make a killing on the bad teams in the regular season, then rely on their talent to get by in the playoff series. Exactly.. The East has been weak for years..No need to add this year Celtic record its on par with the previous years or worse.. You have to win the big games during the regular season.. If nothing else it gives the players some confindence..
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 9:22:55 GMT -5
I tried to do the math myself, but since Stevens' first year the Celtics Record against teams above .500 is 132-186. The Last 5 years they are 104-107, not including this year. Looking back in the Eastern Conference, thats kind of right on par with the other top teams in the east. Teams make a killing on the bad teams in the regular season, then rely on their talent to get by in the playoff series. Exactly.. The East has been weak for years..No need to add this year Celtic record its on par with the previous years or worse.. You have to win the big games during the regular season.. If nothing else it gives the players some confindence.. Im not disagreeing, just that not many teams are great against teams with over .500 records. Tough to really hold Brad accountable for that, its a league wide thing...Especially when your teams arent great
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Post by puddin on Apr 7, 2021 9:35:46 GMT -5
Cheer up, PeeWee.... its only a F'N game!
... in the meantime, lets all eat fresh... just like JT does!
Pud
Oh i'm happy. Sox won two in a row . We make no defensive adjustments its always ONE player who takes us out.. Not the fuckin threes we shot over 40% from deep last night. Wagner and Kornet suck.. We got nothing for Theis just like we got nothing for Hayward or Rozier.. This shit show needs to end.. CBS and Ainge should bow out.. Oh and i wouldn't eat at Subway if it was free. We have real Italians who make real subs . Happy, amigo?
You don't sound happy.
Psssssssst: Is constipation your problem?
Stop straining and try Dulcolax....
and then treat yourself to a Happy meal!
I'll be tickled to pick up the tab.
Pud
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Post by Cabutan on Apr 7, 2021 9:36:21 GMT -5
Exactly.. The East has been weak for years..No need to add this year Celtic record its on par with the previous years or worse.. You have to win the big games during the regular season.. If nothing else it gives the players some confindence.. Im not disagreeing, just that not many teams are great against teams with over .500 records. Tough to really hold Brad accountable for that, its a league wide thing...Especially when your teams arent great O dont know but have you seen the magic after the trade? We are talking about a team that was dissasembled with GLeague experience and they play harder than us. Is actually discouraging to see that we cant do better knowing we supposedly have three stars. We are not the greatest talent in the league but come on. What will the next excuse be? That we need to be stacked?
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Post by elvissurfs on Apr 7, 2021 9:41:17 GMT -5
Well, we were missing Javier...
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 9:41:54 GMT -5
Im not disagreeing, just that not many teams are great against teams with over .500 records. Tough to really hold Brad accountable for that, its a league wide thing...Especially when your teams arent great O dont know but have you seen the magic after the trade? We are talking about a team that was dissasembled with GLeague experience and they play harder than us. Is actually discouraging to see that we cant do better knowing we supposedly have three stars. We are not the greatest talent in the league but come on. What will the next excuse be? That we need to be stacked? I dont make excuses, the Celtics are lead by entitled, immature but talented young players. They dont play hard and they are selfish. At some point you have to hold the players, who are adults accountable for effort.
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Post by cole on Apr 7, 2021 9:43:54 GMT -5
O dont know but have you seen the magic after the trade? We are talking about a team that was dissasembled with GLeague experience and they play harder than us. Is actually discouraging to see that we cant do better knowing we supposedly have three stars. We are not the greatest talent in the league but come on. What will the next excuse be? That we need to be stacked? I dont make excuses, the Celtics are lead by entitled, immature but talented young players. They dont play hard and they are selfish. At some point you have to hold the players, who are adults accountable for effort. Chicken and the egg. Who's job is it to hold players accountable?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 9:48:19 GMT -5
Exactly.. The East has been weak for years..No need to add this year Celtic record its on par with the previous years or worse.. You have to win the big games during the regular season.. If nothing else it gives the players some confindence.. Im not disagreeing, just that not many teams are great against teams with over .500 records. Tough to really hold Brad accountable for that, its a league wide thing...Especially when your teams arent great Well this goes back to the IT days.. Different players same coach.. I'll adopt Fierce's line of thinking.. A championship is a plus just having a winning record is peachy-keen.. That fell out of favor with me during the long draught of the Sox not winning a World Series why should i not hold the current Celtics accountable?
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 9:48:51 GMT -5
I dont make excuses, the Celtics are lead by entitled, immature but talented young players. They dont play hard and they are selfish. At some point you have to hold the players, who are adults accountable for effort. Chicken and the egg. Who's job is it to hold players accountable? What else can Brad do? If a player isnt self motivated, then hes not great. Its pretty simple. The players are adults, they arent children
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 9:51:17 GMT -5
Im not disagreeing, just that not many teams are great against teams with over .500 records. Tough to really hold Brad accountable for that, its a league wide thing...Especially when your teams arent great Well this goes back to the IT days.. Different players same coach.. I'll adopt Fierce's line of thinking.. A championship is a plus just having a winning record is peachy-keen.. That fell out of favor with me during the long draught of the Sox not winning a World Series why should i not hold the current Celtics accountable? You can hold the Celtics accountable, but in a player dominated league...Id say the players are much more at fault then a coach. If this was the NFL, then id say its time to make a move. Hey, like Ive said before...I dont really care if you change Stevens, but we will be back here saying fire the next guy in a year again
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 9:55:16 GMT -5
Oh i'm happy. Sox won two in a row . We make no defensive adjustments its always ONE player who takes us out.. Not the fuckin threes we shot over 40% from deep last night. Wagner and Kornet suck.. We got nothing for Theis just like we got nothing for Hayward or Rozier.. This shit show needs to end.. CBS and Ainge should bow out.. Oh and i wouldn't eat at Subway if it was free. We have real Italians who make real subs . Happy, amigo?
You don't sound happy.
Psssssssst: Is constipation your problem?
Stop straining and try Dulcolax....
and then treat yourself to a Happy meal!
I'll be tickled to pick up the tab.
Pud
No I have prunes most everything passes.. If i could only pass a blunt . Two days no smoke. Guess i ride into DC before i turn into as ass.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 9:57:42 GMT -5
Well this goes back to the IT days.. Different players same coach.. I'll adopt Fierce's line of thinking.. A championship is a plus just having a winning record is peachy-keen.. That fell out of favor with me during the long draught of the Sox not winning a World Series why should i not hold the current Celtics accountable? You can hold the Celtics accountable, but in a player dominated league...Id say the players are much more at fault then a coach. If this was the NFL, then id say its time to make a move. Hey, like Ive said before...I dont really care if you change Stevens, but we will be back here saying fire the next guy in a year again OK.. The next two years would suck if Red was coach. I agree. Goes back to my Ainge 65% Stevens 35% I'll hold Ainge responsible.. Someone has to be accountable.
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 9:59:28 GMT -5
You can hold the Celtics accountable, but in a player dominated league...Id say the players are much more at fault then a coach. If this was the NFL, then id say its time to make a move. Hey, like Ive said before...I dont really care if you change Stevens, but we will be back here saying fire the next guy in a year again OK.. Goes back to my Ainge 65% Stevens 35% I'll hold Ainge responsible.. Someone has to be accountable. Why are the players not on your list? The people actually playing the game get no responsiblity?
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Post by cole on Apr 7, 2021 10:01:10 GMT -5
You can hold the Celtics accountable, but in a player dominated league...Id say the players are much more at fault then a coach. If this was the NFL, then id say its time to make a move. Hey, like Ive said before...I dont really care if you change Stevens, but we will be back here saying fire the next guy in a year again OK.. Goes back to my Ainge 65% Stevens 35% I'll hold Ainge responsible.. Someone has to be accountable. Reminds me of some lines from a song/artist I hate. But Johnny can't read Summer is over and he's gone to seed (You know that), Johnny can't read He never learned nothin' that he'll ever need Well, is it Teacher's fault? Oh No! Is it Mommy's fault? Oh No! Is it society's fault? Oh No! Well is it Johnny's fault? OhhHHH NooOOO!
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Post by kyceltic on Apr 7, 2021 10:11:51 GMT -5
Well boys, it's time to face the facts. Kemba is not close to the player he once was. Brown is an empty suit type player. The other team let's him have a few points, but know they can stop him any time they want to! Smart should have been included in a trade package for Gordon, or Vooch! Tatum has regressed from last year! Worst of all Ainge is still GM, and until he goes, as someone said last night, we're doomed! Which leads me to my new starting lineup! RWill, Tatum, Brown, Fournier and Pritchard! Let Pritchard run the team, and be the point guard, not Tatum! Gives us 5 scorers and may keep Tatum from being doubled! Kemba and Smart help the bench, and both should be traded next year!!
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 10:12:59 GMT -5
Well boys, it's time to face the facts. Kemba is not close to the player he once was. Brown is an empty suit type player. The other team let's him have a few points, but know they can stop him any time they want to! Smart should have been included in a trade package for Gordon, or Vooch! Tatum has regressed from last year! Worst of all Ainge is still GM, and until he goes, as someone said last night, we're doomed! Which leads me to my new starting lineup! RWill, Tatum, Brown, Fournier and Pritchard! Let Pritchard run the team, and be the point guard, not Tatum! Gives us 5 scorers and may keep Tatum from being doubled! Kemba and Smart help the bench, and both should be traded next year!! How is your best player gonna feel about taking the ball out of his hands?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 10:16:16 GMT -5
OK.. Goes back to my Ainge 65% Stevens 35% I'll hold Ainge responsible.. Someone has to be accountable. Reminds me of some lines from a song/artist I hate. But Johnny can't read Summer is over and he's gone to seed (You know that), Johnny can't read He never learned nothin' that he'll ever need Well, is it Teacher's fault? Oh No! Is it Mommy's fault? Oh No! Is it society's fault? Oh No! Well is it Johnny's fault? OhhHHH NooOOO! It's probably all of the above.. Mommy gets the most blame i suppose You left out Dad .. He's in jail probably.. You also realize grandparents raise more children today in the black community than the parents.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 10:17:23 GMT -5
OK.. Goes back to my Ainge 65% Stevens 35% I'll hold Ainge responsible.. Someone has to be accountable. Why are the players not on your list? The people actually playing the game get no responsiblity? Pawns don't win a game for you not often..
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 10:21:19 GMT -5
Why are the players not on your list? The people actually playing the game get no responsiblity? Pawns don't win a game for you not often.. Huh? You dont think the players/talent level matters? Did Steve Kerr forget how to coach?
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Post by cole on Apr 7, 2021 10:24:09 GMT -5
Pawns don't win a game for you not often.. Huh? You dont think the players/talent level matters? Did Steve Kerr forget how to coach? We cant blame injury any more, and they players are a reflection of the manager. For the last 6 years we've been trying to draft the next Glen Davis for some reason, and haven't even succeeded at that.
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 10:29:57 GMT -5
Huh? You dont think the players/talent level matters? Did Steve Kerr forget how to coach? We cant blame injury any more, and they players are a reflection of the manager. For the last 6 years we've been trying to draft the next Glen Davis for some reason, and haven't even succeeded at that. Not understanding the first line. I dont disagree, that the role players here are not as good as they should be. Role players dont win you games though, you rely on your stars to do that. I put most of the issue on Tatum and Brown. Let me ask you this. In 2016, how did the Celtics get a 1 seed?
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Post by kyceltic on Apr 7, 2021 10:30:25 GMT -5
Well boys, it's time to face the facts. Kemba is not close to the player he once was. Brown is an empty suit type player. The other team let's him have a few points, but know they can stop him any time they want to! Smart should have been included in a trade package for Gordon, or Vooch! Tatum has regressed from last year! Worst of all Ainge is still GM, and until he goes, as someone said last night, we're doomed! Which leads me to my new starting lineup! RWill, Tatum, Brown, Fournier and Pritchard! Let Pritchard run the team, and be the point guard, not Tatum! Gives us 5 scorers and may keep Tatum from being doubled! Kemba and Smart help the bench, and both should be traded next year!! How is your best player gonna feel about taking the ball out of his hands? Probably relieved! He can concentrate on scoring!
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Post by kyceltic on Apr 7, 2021 10:32:26 GMT -5
We cant blame injury any more, and they players are a reflection of the manager. For the last 6 years we've been trying to draft the next Glen Davis for some reason, and haven't even succeeded at that. Not understanding the first line. I dont disagree, that the role players here are not as good as they should be. Role players dont win you games though, you rely on your stars to do that. I put most of the issue on Tatum and Brown. Let me ask you this. In 2016, how did the Celtics get a 1 seed? They may not win you game, but they can lose you games!!
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Post by solly on Apr 7, 2021 10:32:39 GMT -5
How is your best player gonna feel about taking the ball out of his hands? Probably relieved! He can concentrate on scoring! What does he concentrate on now? He shoots 30 times a game
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Post by cole on Apr 7, 2021 10:37:15 GMT -5
We cant blame injury any more, and they players are a reflection of the manager. For the last 6 years we've been trying to draft the next Glen Davis for some reason, and haven't even succeeded at that. Not understanding the first line. I dont disagree, that the role players here are not as good as they should be. Role players dont win you games though, you rely on your stars to do that. I put most of the issue on Tatum and Brown. Let me ask you this. In 2016, how did the Celtics get a 1 seed? The fact that the team has regressed is an argument against, not for management.
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