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Post by hedleylamarr on Apr 1, 2021 10:26:42 GMT -5
Theis was our best pick and roll defender we traded him for two unproven bigs who will take at least another full year probably more to be anywhere close to what Theis gave us The past 10 games Walker is shooting 32% from threes Smart 33%. WE ARE NOT WINNING WITH WALKER,.. NEVER. He don't pass well he don't defend now his shooting is on par with Smart's.. Looks to be like they took my advice.. Tank. These comments by Stevens are juvenile .. Call more timeouts? Sure bud . If it's that fuckin easy do it.. This man is an idiot for a coach.. Step the f**k down The coach has no clue and the players are following suit..The Celtics winning isn't predicated on Walker. The Celtics winning is predicated on Tatum and Brown. We've gone to the ECF with IT (fill in by Smart in ECF), Irving (fill in by Rozier in ECF), and Walker (limited with messed up knees) and I'm not certain we lost singularly because of their play. How the Celtics go will depend primarily on the play and leadership of Tatum and Brown and, because of that, WE ARE NOT WINNING AND WON'T BE WINNING ANY TIME SOON. I have completely soured on the coach. When Tatum pounds the ball like he did wasting a possession, he should be replaced right then so he knows that's not acceptable. By leaving him in, it shows him and the other players that this is acceptable. Perhaps once Fournier gets his feet wet, and more confidence in the offense, he will take him out. But, who does he replace Tatum with now? Whoever it is can't score, and then we'll on be on here the next day bitching about a loss. And some will call Brad a bad coach for benching our best player. The guy can't win here, and it's further proof that this team has been flawed from the beginning of the season with NO bench, and therefore NO accountability. He has to win games. To do that, he has to play his best players. Wally Pipp is a great story because of that. Tom Brady is a great story because of that. Our bench has no Gehrig or Brady. No one has taken advantage of their opportunity. Rather, I feel Tatum KNOWS he can't be taken out, and until he knows it, he's going to try to be Kobe 2.0
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 10:30:43 GMT -5
Theis was our best pick and roll defender we traded him for two unproven bigs who will take at least another full year probably more to be anywhere close to what Theis gave us The past 10 games Walker is shooting 32% from threes Smart 33%. WE ARE NOT WINNING WITH WALKER,.. NEVER. He don't pass well he don't defend now his shooting is on par with Smart's.. Looks to be like they took my advice.. Tank. These comments by Stevens are juvenile .. Call more timeouts? Sure bud . If it's that fuckin easy do it.. This man is an idiot for a coach.. Step the f**k down The coach has no clue and the players are following suit..The Celtics winning isn't predicated on Walker. The Celtics winning is predicated on Tatum and Brown. We've gone to the ECF with IT (fill in by Smart in ECF), Irving (fill in by Rozier in ECF), and Walker (limited with messed up knees) and I'm not certain we lost singularly because of their play. How the Celtics go will depend primarily on the play and leadership of Tatum and Brown and, because of that, WE ARE NOT WINNING AND WON'T BE WINNING ANY TIME SOON. I have completely soured on the coach. When Tatum pounds the ball like he did wasting a possession, he should be replaced right then so he knows that's not acceptable. By leaving him in, it shows him and the other players that this is acceptable. Fine.. Stevens should find a way to help Walker and JT or any other player to do what they are capable of.. All have faults. . Walker is here to stay find his spots He has a run of 8 pts in 10 minutes most games.. Then he dissapears. Matchups are the key and Stevens has no clue He made no adjustment for Luka he's torches us every game. Stevens is the biggest problem we have no argument.. Ainge is 2nd
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 10:32:32 GMT -5
The Celtics winning isn't predicated on Walker. The Celtics winning is predicated on Tatum and Brown. We've gone to the ECF with IT (fill in by Smart in ECF), Irving (fill in by Rozier in ECF), and Walker (limited with messed up knees) and I'm not certain we lost singularly because of their play. How the Celtics go will depend primarily on the play and leadership of Tatum and Brown and, because of that, WE ARE NOT WINNING AND WON'T BE WINNING ANY TIME SOON. I have completely soured on the coach. When Tatum pounds the ball like he did wasting a possession, he should be replaced right then so he knows that's not acceptable. By leaving him in, it shows him and the other players that this is acceptable. Perhaps once Fournier gets his feet wet, and more confidence in the offense, he will take him out. But, who does he replace Tatum with now? Whoever it is can't score, and then we'll on be on here the next day bitching about a loss. And some will call Brad a bad coach for benching our best player. The guy can't win here, and it's further proof that this team has been flawed from the beginning of the season with NO bench, and therefore NO accountability. He has to win games. To do that, he has to play his best players. Wally Pipp is a great story because of that. Tom Brady is a great story because of that. Our bench has no Gehrig or Brady. No one has taken advantage of their opportunity. Rather, I feel Tatum KNOWS he can't be taken out, and until he knows it, he's going to try to be Kobe 2.0 you just said last week.. We helped the bench and you were happy with the trades Which is it and when has Stevens benched JT or any other player except RWill?
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Post by solly on Apr 1, 2021 10:34:21 GMT -5
The Celtics winning isn't predicated on Walker. The Celtics winning is predicated on Tatum and Brown. We've gone to the ECF with IT (fill in by Smart in ECF), Irving (fill in by Rozier in ECF), and Walker (limited with messed up knees) and I'm not certain we lost singularly because of their play. How the Celtics go will depend primarily on the play and leadership of Tatum and Brown and, because of that, WE ARE NOT WINNING AND WON'T BE WINNING ANY TIME SOON. I have completely soured on the coach. When Tatum pounds the ball like he did wasting a possession, he should be replaced right then so he knows that's not acceptable. By leaving him in, it shows him and the other players that this is acceptable. Fine.. Stevens should find a way to help Walker and JT or any other player to do what they are capable of.. All have faults. . Walker is here to stay find his spots He has a run of 8 pts in 10 minutes most games.. Then he dissapears. Matchups are the key and Stevens has no clue He made no adjustment for Luka he's torches us every game. Stevens is the biggest problem we have no argument.. Ainge is 2nd So what changed from the previous years to now with Brad?
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Post by puddin on Apr 1, 2021 10:38:06 GMT -5
Danny Ainge: “When you have success, it, everybody’s success and when you have failures, it’s everybody, failures. I think we’re trying to identity how to get the team to best perform and, without anything else, we really do need to get healthy. We have different players out every night and there, not a lot of time to practice and it really is difficult to sustain continuity. Having said all that, effort should be the one thing that is consistent.” – via Twitter ChrisForsberg_ Danny Ainge, Boston Celtics Should be.... or must be?
And if it isn't........ whatcha propose do about it, amigo??!!??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 10:41:39 GMT -5
Fine.. Stevens should find a way to help Walker and JT or any other player to do what they are capable of.. All have faults. . Walker is here to stay find his spots He has a run of 8 pts in 10 minutes most games.. Then he dissapears. Matchups are the key and Stevens has no clue He made no adjustment for Luka he's torches us every game. Stevens is the biggest problem we have no argument.. Ainge is 2nd So what changed from the previous years to now with Brad? Did we win something the past 8 years and i missed it? Nothing for me i said he would fail from the start. He got a grace period being new in the NBA.. That is over Teams have us figured out.. The East has been weak and other teams have got better. Ainge has provided Stevens with a poor roster to boot.. We have played for the three ball for 8 years its no surpise that we are fooling no one. I said 7 years ago.. Stevens will never get a banner.. I'm get more covinced every day.
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Post by petey62 on Apr 1, 2021 10:48:47 GMT -5
The Celtics winning isn't predicated on Walker. The Celtics winning is predicated on Tatum and Brown. We've gone to the ECF with IT (fill in by Smart in ECF), Irving (fill in by Rozier in ECF), and Walker (limited with messed up knees) and I'm not certain we lost singularly because of their play. How the Celtics go will depend primarily on the play and leadership of Tatum and Brown and, because of that, WE ARE NOT WINNING AND WON'T BE WINNING ANY TIME SOON. I have completely soured on the coach. When Tatum pounds the ball like he did wasting a possession, he should be replaced right then so he knows that's not acceptable. By leaving him in, it shows him and the other players that this is acceptable. Fine.. Stevens should find a way to help Walker and JT or any other player to do what they are capable of.. All have faults. . Walker is here to stay find his spots He has a run of 8 pts in 10 minutes most games.. Then he dissapears. Matchups are the key and Stevens has no clue He made no adjustment for Luka he's torches us every game. Stevens is the biggest problem we have no argument.. Ainge is 2ndThe disappearing is my gripe about Tatum. Tatum normally doesn't start playing until the 2nd quarter. Against the PELS I think he had a chip on his shoulder against Ingram and he came out lighting Ingram up. But then he disappeared. Normally, like yesterday, Tatum takes off the 1st period. Last night, Tatum may have had 2 points in the first quarter. I don't get that. When you are the lead guy on offense, you can't start the game and 1st quarter with that kind of production. Then, to make up for that, he forces things and ends up with 26 points on 24 shots missing layups and dunks in the final quarter. Stevens is a huge problem and since Ainge has his back, therefore Ainge is a huge problem too.
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Post by billge on Apr 1, 2021 10:54:35 GMT -5
Roy Williams just quit. Send Stevens down here to North Carolina. Danny is talking in circles, in a vacuum. Nothing he says means anything anymore. The team needs a change, and soon ! We may have lost Tatum already. Carmelo is a good comparison. We may need to trade him before we lose him for nothing. If Danny can.t see Stevens needs to go, then Danny should be gone too. Danny is too close to ownership so they put up with this incompetence.
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Post by petey62 on Apr 1, 2021 10:57:26 GMT -5
Fine.. Stevens should find a way to help Walker and JT or any other player to do what they are capable of.. All have faults. . Walker is here to stay find his spots He has a run of 8 pts in 10 minutes most games.. Then he dissapears. Matchups are the key and Stevens has no clue He made no adjustment for Luka he's torches us every game. Stevens is the biggest problem we have no argument.. Ainge is 2nd S o what changed from the previous years to now with Brad?This is the first truly challenging year Brad has experienced when expectations were high. That's important. I just don't feel he has responded well. As a coach, you may need to tweak your approach from game to game. solly, that is one of my problems.......NOTHING has changed in Brad's approach. Where YOU say the players cannot consistently execute Brad's game plan, I say the game plan is flawed for the players we have. So, I believe a coach has to be creative and find ways to put players in positions to maximize their strengths. I just don't believe Brad has changed anything about his approach that maximizes the strengths of the players on this roster. We are not a good 3-point shooting team yet we shot 47 threes making just 11. I'm sorry but, at some point, the coach has to FIND ANOTHER WAY because this way isn't working. Brad's problem is that he's challenged at finding other ways for this team.
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Post by solly on Apr 1, 2021 10:58:17 GMT -5
So what changed from the previous years to now with Brad? Did we win something the past 8 years and i missed it? Nothing for me i said he would fail from the start. He got a grace period being new in the NBA.. That is over Teams have us figured out.. The East has been weak and other teams have got better. Ainge has provided Stevens with a poor roster to boot.. We have played for the three ball for 8 years its no surpise that we are fooling no one. I said 7 years ago.. Stevens will never get a banner.. I'm get more covinced every day. No, but its tough to say its a coaching failure when you go to the ECF. Ultimately he overachieved especially in the IT years, getting to the ECF. You need the big guns to win, and they havent been here since 2008-2010 realistically. If you go to the ECF one year then are below .500, did he change or did the roster and on court leaderhsip?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 11:03:36 GMT -5
Fine.. Stevens should find a way to help Walker and JT or any other player to do what they are capable of.. All have faults. . Walker is here to stay find his spots He has a run of 8 pts in 10 minutes most games.. Then he dissapears. Matchups are the key and Stevens has no clue He made no adjustment for Luka he's torches us every game. Stevens is the biggest problem we have no argument.. Ainge is 2ndThe disappearing is my gripe about Tatum. Tatum normally doesn't start playing until the 2nd quarter. Against the PELS I think he had a chip on his shoulder against Ingram and he came out lighting Ingram up. But then he disappeared. Normally, like yesterday, Tatum takes off the 1st period. Last night, Tatum may have had 2 points in the first quarter. I don't get that. When you are the lead guy on offense, you can't start the game and 1st quarter with that kind of production. Then, to make up for that, he forces things and ends up with 26 points on 24 shots missing layups and dunks in the final quarter. Stevens is a huge problem and since Ainge has his back, therefore Ainge is a huge problem too. Tatum starts slow. We all have seen that.. I'm reaching here. Is it because he wants Brown or Walker to get involved early? We have one hot hand at a time never two it seems. I'll have to go with Stevens. Our approach is ISO and threes nothing else kinda hard to get the whole team involved. One player is always a spectator it seems just watching. We have no one running the team. Coach or player. Paul runs the Suns.. James runs the Lakers Harden runs the Nets.. Simmons runs the 76ers We run each other in the ground . FAULT? Ainge 60% Stevens 40%
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Post by hedleylamarr on Apr 1, 2021 11:04:21 GMT -5
Perhaps once Fournier gets his feet wet, and more confidence in the offense, he will take him out. But, who does he replace Tatum with now? Whoever it is can't score, and then we'll on be on here the next day bitching about a loss. And some will call Brad a bad coach for benching our best player. The guy can't win here, and it's further proof that this team has been flawed from the beginning of the season with NO bench, and therefore NO accountability. He has to win games. To do that, he has to play his best players. Wally Pipp is a great story because of that. Tom Brady is a great story because of that. Our bench has no Gehrig or Brady. No one has taken advantage of their opportunity. Rather, I feel Tatum KNOWS he can't be taken out, and until he knows it, he's going to try to be Kobe 2.0 you just said last week.. We helped the bench and you were happy with the trades Which is it and when has Stevens benched JT or any other player except RWill? First line - very important. He's only been here two games. Also a key word is "perhaps". So, once Fournier is more comfortable, and he IS a big addition to our bench, then "perhaps" Brad will bench Tatum in favor of Fournier. But since it's only been two games, he's probably not ready to do that yet. Or, he may not at all. Finally, in the previous game, he benched ALL the starters in the first quarter. I can find the link if you really want.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Apr 1, 2021 11:05:30 GMT -5
The game plan is great when we win
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 11:08:58 GMT -5
Did we win something the past 8 years and i missed it? Nothing for me i said he would fail from the start. He got a grace period being new in the NBA.. That is over Teams have us figured out.. The East has been weak and other teams have got better. Ainge has provided Stevens with a poor roster to boot.. We have played for the three ball for 8 years its no surpise that we are fooling no one. I said 7 years ago.. Stevens will never get a banner.. I'm get more covinced every day. No, but its tough to say its a coaching failure when you go to the ECF. Ultimately he overachieved especially in the IT years, getting to the ECF. You need the big guns to win, and they havent been here since 2008-2010 realistically. If you go to the ECF one year then are below .500, did he change or did the roster and on court leaderhsip? We got lucky last year on the pairing was the only reason we made it.. Most here agree. You don't read a friggin' thing i post. The EAST HAS GOT BETTER. BRAD IS STILL PLAYING THE SAME GAME AS HE WAS WHEN IT WAS HERE. TEAMS HAVE FIGURED IT OUT, HE NEEDS TO FIND ANOTHER APPROACH..
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Post by solly on Apr 1, 2021 11:10:49 GMT -5
S o what changed from the previous years to now with Brad?This is the first truly challenging year Brad has experienced when expectations were high. That's important. I just don't feel he has responded well. As a coach, you may need to tweak your approach from game to game. solly, that is one of my problems.......NOTHING has changed in Brad's approach. Where YOU say the players cannot consistently execute Brad's game plan, I say the game plan is flawed for the players we have. So, I believe a coach has to be creative and find ways to put players in positions to maximize their strengths. I just don't believe Brad has changed anything about his approach that maximizes the strengths of the players on this roster. We are not a good 3-point shooting team yet we shot 47 threes making just 11. I'm sorry but, at some point, the coach has to FIND ANOTHER WAY because this way isn't working. Brad's problem is that he's challenged at finding other ways for this team. I dont think there are many gameplans that are truly stuck to throughout a game in the nba. The game is relied on players talents and improvisational ability. Shooting 3s when open is about as much as you can ask for. Its the players responsibility to make them, and its really JT and JBs responsibility to create those open looks for the role players. If the approach worked last year, why change it? The expectations were incorrectly put on this team, their veteran talent was gone from last year along with Kemba's decreasing health. Young players dont win. This teams two best players are young
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Post by solly on Apr 1, 2021 11:12:52 GMT -5
No, but its tough to say its a coaching failure when you go to the ECF. Ultimately he overachieved especially in the IT years, getting to the ECF. You need the big guns to win, and they havent been here since 2008-2010 realistically. If you go to the ECF one year then are below .500, did he change or did the roster and on court leaderhsip? We got lucky last year on the pairing was the only reason we made it.. Most here agree. You don't read a friggin' thing i post. The EAST HAS GOT BETTER. BRAD IS STILL PLAYING THE SAME GAME AS HE WAS WHEN IT WAS HERE. TEAMS HAVE FIGURED IT OUT, HE NEEDS TO FIND ANOTHER APPROACH.. I read it, the East getting better I agree with, which is why my expectations were low. They got worse as a team, before they even played a game. It has nothing to do with switching game plans. Their players just arent as good as other teams in the east. The effort and laziness is on the players. Lebron and KD and Harden are the same players, with the same playstyles since they entered the league. Why havent people figured them out?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 11:12:52 GMT -5
you just said last week.. We helped the bench and you were happy with the trades Which is it and when has Stevens benched JT or any other player except RWill? First line - very important. He's only been here two games. Also a key word is "perhaps". So, once Fournier is more comfortable, and he IS a big addition to our bench, then "perhaps" Brad will bench Tatum in favor of Fournier. But since it's only been two games, he's probably not ready to do that yet. Or, he may not at all. Finally, in the previous game, he benched ALL the starters in the first quarter. I can find the link if you really want. nah don't need a link. Tatum will start the rest of the season so will Walker is my guess. You can't sit 60 mil down or the face of the franchise Smart might be benched for Fournier but that takes away from the bench scoring i would guess.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 11:15:43 GMT -5
We got lucky last year on the pairing was the only reason we made it.. Most here agree. You don't read a friggin' thing i post. The EAST HAS GOT BETTER. BRAD IS STILL PLAYING THE SAME GAME AS HE WAS WHEN IT WAS HERE. TEAMS HAVE FIGURED IT OUT, HE NEEDS TO FIND ANOTHER APPROACH.. I read it, the East getting better I agree with, which is why my expectations were low. They got worse as a team, before they even played a game. It has nothing to do with switching game plans. Their players just arent as good as other teams in the east. The effort and laziness is on the players. So what does one do when the players arn't good enough? What should Ainge do? What should Brad do? You would agree we need to do something?
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Post by solly on Apr 1, 2021 11:19:15 GMT -5
I read it, the East getting better I agree with, which is why my expectations were low. They got worse as a team, before they even played a game. It has nothing to do with switching game plans. Their players just arent as good as other teams in the east. The effort and laziness is on the players. So what does one do when the players arn't good enough? What should Ainge do? What should Brad do? You would agree we need to do something? I have been consistent since the year started, you know that. Ainge could make every trade you want to help the bench, and improve the role players on the roster. They wouldnt win anything this year regardless. Their best players arent good enough, its pretty simple. The NBA is a hard league to build a contender in, because the best players in the league control so much of the game. When other teams have better top end players then you, you cannot do much. You can scream at Brad all you want, if they fire him and bring in somebody else...The same issue will rise again. This teams fate in the future relies on how good Tatum and Brown will be. If they ascend to superstar levels, then theyll be contenders. Unfortunately its a waiting game Ask Pop how hes doing without Duncan and Parker or Kawhi. Wonder why the NBA all of a sudden figured out his game plans
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 11:22:53 GMT -5
I'll make it easy and answer my guestions Solly.
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Play our young guys in hopes that maybe some poor team will take two or three off our back in a trade..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 11:25:48 GMT -5
Ask Pop how hes doing without Duncan and Parker or Kawhi. Wonder why the NBA all of a sudden figured out his game plans.
Better yet.. Ask Pop how he got 5 championships.. Stevens is curious to know i'm sure..
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Post by petey62 on Apr 1, 2021 11:26:48 GMT -5
This is the first truly challenging year Brad has experienced when expectations were high. That's important. I just don't feel he has responded well. As a coach, you may need to tweak your approach from game to game. solly, that is one of my problems.......NOTHING has changed in Brad's approach. Where YOU say the players cannot consistently execute Brad's game plan, I say the game plan is flawed for the players we have. So, I believe a coach has to be creative and find ways to put players in positions to maximize their strengths. I just don't believe Brad has changed anything about his approach that maximizes the strengths of the players on this roster. We are not a good 3-point shooting team yet we shot 47 threes making just 11. I'm sorry but, at some point, the coach has to FIND ANOTHER WAY because this way isn't working. Brad's problem is that he's challenged at finding other ways for this team. I dont think there are many gameplans that are truly stuck to throughout a game in the nba. The game is relied on players talents and improvisational ability. Shooting 3s when open is about as much as you can ask for. Its the players responsibility to make them, and its really JT and JBs responsibility to create those open looks for the role players. If the approach worked last year, why change it? The expectations were incorrectly put on this team, their veteran talent was gone from last year along with Kemba's decreasing health. Young players dont win. This teams two best players are youngI disagree with your first statement. Our offensive game plan is a heavily reliance on making 3-pointers. Yesterday we stuck to that game plan throughout the entire game despite our horrid rate making them. The Celtics don't have one true 3-point shooter. Every Celtics player shooting a 3-pointer can be classified as a "streak shooter". You should clarify your next to the last statement to include "NBA Titles". Young players CAN and DO win in the NBA (regular season) and, if fortunate, make it to the conference finals. We're not talking the NBA Finals here though. We're talking regular season games against the PELS and DAL and their struggles.
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Post by Cabutan on Apr 1, 2021 11:28:46 GMT -5
Problem is Smart that none of you are natural shooters.
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Post by solly on Apr 1, 2021 11:29:21 GMT -5
Ask Pop how hes doing without Duncan and Parker or Kawhi. Wonder why the NBA all of a sudden figured out his game plans. Better yet.. Ask Pop how he got 5 championships.. Stevens is curious to know i'm sure.. He had Duncan, who was a top 10 player ever, it adds up
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Post by solly on Apr 1, 2021 11:30:29 GMT -5
I'll make it easy and answer my guestions Solly. Tank Play our young guys in hopes that maybe some poor team will take two or three off our back in a trade.. JT and JB are our young guys, and theyre playing. They only should get better by learning the game as they play it. If they dont, then the Celtics will never win
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