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Post by solly on Mar 1, 2021 22:52:41 GMT -5
Don’t see how doubling somebody 30 feet away from the basket is a good idea, even so they tried to trap him as he hit an off balanced 3 in on 2 guys. So the argument is pretty ridiculous. It’s just blaming Brad to say it’s the coach Maybe that penultimate three could have been doubled, but that final three was well defended. Better offense, as they say Agree don’t really see how you can play the game winner much better. Took a 30 footer off a dead sprint and step back off balanced. Sometimes you tip your cap to great players
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 1, 2021 23:21:41 GMT -5
Here’s where I disagree...they don’t have 2 dominant players. They have 2 young players with high potential. Like I’ve said since I joined this forum is that we crowned them as superstars way too early. Simply scoring 24ppg doesn’t make you a superstar, these 2 guys have a long way to go in terms of being all around basketball players who control the game and make others better If you need to be motivated as a professional athlete, then it’s the athletes problem. How is it Brads fault they care more about the all star game than regular season games? They’re young and immature, they’ll Learn just like management. Just because you have the title of manager doesn't make you angreat leader. Two different things. And in a professional environment, a leader motivates. A manager just orders. Basketball is no different and yes at some point they will need an extra push, a motivator. A leader. I am available and will play for peanuts...but for sure I could lead these guys better...One lecture about Celtic pride and they would all crawl in to a corner and hide...
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 1, 2021 23:21:42 GMT -5
Maybe that penultimate three could have been doubled, but that final three was well defended. Better offense, as they say Agree don’t really see how you can play the game winner much better. Took a 30 footer off a dead sprint and step back off balanced. Sometimes you tip your cap to great players Exactly. Brad really drew that one up badly, didn't he.......
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Post by DaCeltics on Mar 1, 2021 23:30:49 GMT -5
I call it attention to detail. It separates the winners from the losers in all aspects of life. Do you think you’ll ever answer my question you quoted or did you want to continue avoiding it cause you know it flies in the face of your logic? We can cry all we want about a guy making a 30 footer on 2 defenders and say it’s bad coaching. We can also rewatch the game and say every single bad play a player made cost them the game as well? They are not bad coaches because they are no longer competing for championships. That ? doesnt require an answer. it is self explanatory. It has nothing to do with the Brad Stevens argument. False narrative.
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Post by quagmire on Mar 2, 2021 2:34:42 GMT -5
If my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.
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Post by solly on Mar 2, 2021 7:48:35 GMT -5
Do you think you’ll ever answer my question you quoted or did you want to continue avoiding it cause you know it flies in the face of your logic? We can cry all we want about a guy making a 30 footer on 2 defenders and say it’s bad coaching. We can also rewatch the game and say every single bad play a player made cost them the game as well? They are not bad coaches because they are no longer competing for championships. That ? doesnt require an answer. it is self explanatory. It has nothing to do with the Brad Stevens argument. False narrative. So Brad is a bad coach cause his current team full of young players is .500, but these guys arent? None of them are competing for Championships though, so what separates them? THE PLAYERS. That list of guys proves they are only as good as their players. Brad has been to 3/4 ECFs, Im not understanding how this is his fault. Was he brainwashed over the summer?
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Post by solly on Mar 2, 2021 7:49:46 GMT -5
just like management. Just because you have the title of manager doesn't make you angreat leader. Two different things. And in a professional environment, a leader motivates. A manager just orders. Basketball is no different and yes at some point they will need an extra push, a motivator. A leader. I am available and will play for peanuts...but for sure I could lead these guys better...One lecture about Celtic pride and they would all crawl in to a corner and hide... Or theyd ignore you and look at how many followers they have on instagram. They are 20 years old, they dont care about Celtics Pride
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Post by Cabutan on Mar 2, 2021 9:25:38 GMT -5
They are not bad coaches because they are no longer competing for championships. That ? doesnt require an answer. it is self explanatory. It has nothing to do with the Brad Stevens argument. False narrative. So Brad is a bad coach cause his current team full of young players is .500, but these guys arent? None of them are competing for Championships though, so what separates them? THE PLAYERS. That list of guys proves they are only as good as their players. Brad has been to 3/4 ECFs, Im not understanding how this is his fault. Was he brainwashed over the summer? Bad is not rhe word i would use. He is not great lets face it. Is he the guy that will take us to that chip? Doubt it. Thats what it boils down to. The chip.
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Post by solly on Mar 2, 2021 9:32:42 GMT -5
So Brad is a bad coach cause his current team full of young players is .500, but these guys arent? None of them are competing for Championships though, so what separates them? THE PLAYERS. That list of guys proves they are only as good as their players. Brad has been to 3/4 ECFs, Im not understanding how this is his fault. Was he brainwashed over the summer? Bad is not rhe word i would use. He is not great lets face it. Is he the guy that will take us to that chip? Doubt it. Thats what it boils down to. The chip. Who is great though is my point? None of these guys make much of a difference. They are at the players will. If they arent good enough, a coach isnt elevating a team
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 9:42:10 GMT -5
So Brad is a bad coach cause his current team full of young players is .500, but these guys arent? None of them are competing for Championships though, so what separates them? THE PLAYERS. That list of guys proves they are only as good as their players. Brad has been to 3/4 ECFs, Im not understanding how this is his fault. Was he brainwashed over the summer? Bad is not rhe word i would use. He is not great lets face it. Is he the guy that will take us to that chip? Doubt it. Thats what it boils down to. The chip. Cabby.. Just having a winning record is fine with a lot of folks here.. The Fierce attitude is gaining traction.. '' A championship is a plus not a goal.. Somehow ya get rewarded for coming in second third or fourth. Just lower your bar or expectations .
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Post by solly on Mar 2, 2021 9:45:03 GMT -5
Bad is not rhe word i would use. He is not great lets face it. Is he the guy that will take us to that chip? Doubt it. Thats what it boils down to. The chip. Cabby.. Just having a winning record is fine with a lot of folks here.. The Fierce attitude is gaining traction.. '' A championship is a plus not a goal.. Somehow ya get rewarded for coming in second third or fourth. Just lower your bar or expectations . You know Fierce and I had different Mindsets. The point isnt to praise him for making the ECF, just that he got there while a lot of guys you want didnt. The coach goes as far as the players take them, in every case. No coach elevates their teams
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 9:57:32 GMT -5
Cabby.. Just having a winning record is fine with a lot of folks here.. The Fierce attitude is gaining traction.. '' A championship is a plus not a goal.. Somehow ya get rewarded for coming in second third or fourth. Just lower your bar or expectations . You know Fierce and I had different Mindsets. The point isnt to praise him for making the ECF, just that he got there while a lot of guys you want didnt. The coach goes as far as the players take them, in every case. No coach elevates their teams Fierce's mind is one huge Your consistant .. Stevens is average i believe .. Been saying for 8 years he will never bring a champoinship.. Maybe i'll be proven wrong one day.. I'm leaning Sox now were going no where this year that we both seem to agree on..
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Post by solly on Mar 2, 2021 10:01:07 GMT -5
You know Fierce and I had different Mindsets. The point isnt to praise him for making the ECF, just that he got there while a lot of guys you want didnt. The coach goes as far as the players take them, in every case. No coach elevates their teams Fierce's mind is one huge View Attachment Your consistant .. Stevens is average i believe .. Been saying for 8 years he will never bring a champoinship.. Maybe i'll be proven wrong one day.. I'm leaning Sox now were going no where this year that we both seem to agree on.. Haha, I wish the Sox forum was more alive, maybe once the year starts.
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 2, 2021 10:14:41 GMT -5
Well, for those strong enough to watch, we play the Clippers tonight...televised nationwide on TNT, 7:30 eastern...be there or be square...
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Post by puddin on Mar 2, 2021 10:17:32 GMT -5
Bad is not rhe word i would use. He is not great lets face it. Is he the guy that will take us to that chip? Doubt it. Thats what it boils down to. The chip. Cabby.. Just having a winning record is fine with a lot of folks here.. The Fierce attitude is gaining traction.. '' A championship is a plus not a goal.. Somehow ya get rewarded for coming in second third or fourth. Just lower your bar or expectations . Consider my expectations lowered.... limbo low.
In that case, we are lucky to have Brad as coach!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 10:20:50 GMT -5
Fierce's mind is one huge View Attachment Your consistant .. Stevens is average i believe .. Been saying for 8 years he will never bring a champoinship.. Maybe i'll be proven wrong one day.. I'm leaning Sox now were going no where this year that we both seem to agree on.. Haha, I wish the Sox forum was more alive, maybe once the year starts. I'll post some this week.. Now to be clear.. It's not Pumpsie's sister forum the one here.. I was waiting on the dust to settle looks like a lot of new faces this year.. I love Cora like Hedley loves Stevens.. I'll say this.. Baseball managers can change the game more than NBA coaches..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 10:26:03 GMT -5
Cabby.. Just having a winning record is fine with a lot of folks here.. The Fierce attitude is gaining traction.. '' A championship is a plus not a goal.. Somehow ya get rewarded for coming in second third or fourth. Just lower your bar or expectations . Consider my expectations lowered.... limbo low.
In that case, we are lucky to have Brad as coach!
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I remember trying that when i was young.. Dad even did one night while sippin on a 5th. Cheap Bourbon of course.. Didn't spill a drop..
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Post by kyceltic on Mar 2, 2021 10:31:27 GMT -5
Did you notice what happened to the Lakers when AD got hurt?? They lost 4 in a row! Brad has been dealing with that all season, plus the loss of Hayward! Actually we're doing pretty good to be where we are!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 10:37:31 GMT -5
Did you notice what happened to the Lakers when AD got hurt?? They lost 4 in a row! Brad has been dealing with that all season, plus the loss of Hayward! Actually we're doing pretty good to be where we are! .. .500 is good huh? Just made my lower expectation argument for me.. Thanks. Who have we lost to an injury that compares to AD? Bill Russell? Kevin Mac? Parrish? Only Smart who you hate..
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Post by puddin on Mar 2, 2021 10:43:42 GMT -5
Haha, I wish the Sox forum was more alive, maybe once the year starts. I'll post some this week.. Now to be clear.. It's not Pumpsie's sister forum the one here.. I was waiting on the dust to settle looks like a lot of new faces this year.. I love Cora like Hedley loves Stevens.. I'll say this.. Baseball managers can change the game more than NBA coaches.. Particularly this baseball coach.
I hear that Cora is going to install some state of the art (no trashcan banging this time, please) intelligence gathering strategies modeled on his undercover work in Texas.
Stay tuned. Should be fun...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 10:49:16 GMT -5
I'll post some this week.. Now to be clear.. It's not Pumpsie's sister forum the one here.. I was waiting on the dust to settle looks like a lot of new faces this year.. I love Cora like Hedley loves Stevens.. I'll say this.. Baseball managers can change the game more than NBA coaches.. Particularly this baseball coach.
I hear that Cora is going to install some state of the art (no trashcan banging this time, please) intelligence gathering strategies modeled on his undercover work in Texas.
Stay tuned. Should be fun...
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We gave you Betts and a chanpionship last year and banished Cora.. Don't expect as much help this year..
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Post by kyceltic on Mar 2, 2021 10:50:23 GMT -5
Did you notice what happened to the Lakers when AD got hurt?? They lost 4 in a row! Brad has been dealing with that all season, plus the loss of Hayward! Actually we're doing pretty good to be where we are! .. .500 is good huh? Just made my lower expectation argument for me.. Thanks. Who have we lost to an injury that compares to AD? Bill Russell? Kevin Mac? Parrish? Only Smart who you hate.. How many games did Tatum miss with covid? Brown has missed games with his knee! Kemba didn't even play til February! Smarts been out Theis has missed games, TT missed some early games! You need to come over to the good side!!
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Post by kyceltic on Mar 2, 2021 10:58:03 GMT -5
Here's a little trivia for you! In the 1964 Draft, with the 7th pick the Celtics selected Mel Counts!! Some guy named Willis Reed went 8th to the Knicks!! The same draft, we took Rom Bonham, when Jerry Sloan was still available!! Not even Red was perfect!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 11:03:31 GMT -5
.. .500 is good huh? Just made my lower expectation argument for me.. Thanks. Who have we lost to an injury that compares to AD? Bill Russell? Kevin Mac? Parrish? Only Smart who you hate.. How many games did Tatum miss with covid? Brown has missed games with his knee! Kemba didn't even play til February! Smarts been out Theis has missed games, TT missed some early games! You need to come over to the good side!! All teams have lost key players i not going to even post them all. It would take 6 pages.. The good side has enough dummies adding me isn't necessary.. Noticed ya havn't mentioned Smart sense Pud came back.. Can't take the heat?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 11:06:25 GMT -5
Here's a little trivia for you! In the 1964 Draft, with the 7th pick the Celtics selected Mel Counts!! Some guy named Willis Reed went 8th to the Knicks!! The same draft, we took Rom Bonham, when Jerry Sloan was still available!! Not even Red was perfect!! Little more trivia.. Red won 7 titles. Ainge has 1.. Kinda ends this converstion..
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