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Post by Admin on Sept 13, 2020 16:41:08 GMT -5
Still "Stayin' Alive" forcing LAC to a Game 7 ...
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Post by fierce on Sept 13, 2020 19:15:19 GMT -5
Should Doc be fired if Clips lose Game 7?
Doc lost Game 7 when the Clips were leading 3-1 against the Rockets in 2015.
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Post by sfbosfan on Sept 13, 2020 20:37:21 GMT -5
Should Doc be fired if Clips lose Game 7? Doc lost Game 7 when the Clips were leading 3-1 against the Rockets in 2015. I am not a Doc lover. OK beating a dead horse and opening some wounds. We had a 13 pt lead end of Qtr #3 game 7 2010. Yup, I know we lost Perkins in Game 6 and in the finals they got the egregious difference of 42 foul shots to our 18 and just 21 in critical Qtr #4. We had two 7 footers, Rashid Wallace and Garnett, but they seemed, especially Sheed, more interested in shooting 3s as we were losing the rebound advantage substantially, especially in the 4th Qtr. We had PP & Allen to do that with Rondo driving to the basket. Doc should have told those 2 to stay in the post & get rebs. They killed us with reb advantage 53 to 40 (I mean 13 extra chances) and only shot 38% and we did 42% but the extra chances killed us. Gasol schooled KG out rebounding him 18 to 3. What else was painful was that Kobe(GOD rest him) shoots 6 for 24 or 25% and was MVP. He’d been a goat had they lost. Sorry if any you feel I continue to cry about that game. Again, beating dead horse, it was because of the foul shot difference true but also because we were out rebounded. One of the reasons in many posts I’ve said I like a strong presence in the paint…more rebounds can make up for bad shooting nights. From me I considered that it a "Tainted Tinsel Town “ victory !!! Want revenge against the Lakers and LeBron who has had his way with us for 10 years with Miami & Cleveland. Want banner #19 and do not want them with 17 to tie us. I do realize in the last 10 years since that game that rebounds are less important as most games now are decided by which team shoots more 3s. But still, reb & TO advantages can compensate a bit for poorer shooting %s. |
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Post by fierce on Sept 13, 2020 20:47:03 GMT -5
sfbosfan
This current Celtics team really starting to look like the 2015 GSW champs, huh?
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Post by sfbosfan on Sept 13, 2020 20:57:58 GMT -5
sfbosfan This current Celtics team really starting to look like the 2015 GSW champs, huh? Good observation and analysis !!! California Dreaming but nightmares for the Lakers. |
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Post by drewski6 on Sept 14, 2020 7:56:32 GMT -5
Should Doc be fired if Clips lose Game 7? Doc lost Game 7 when the Clips were leading 3-1 against the Rockets in 2015. I am not a Doc lover. OK beating a dead horse and opening some wounds. We had a 13 pt lead end of Qtr #3 game 7 2010. Yup, I know we lost Perkins in Game 6 and in the finals they got the egregious difference of 42 foul shots to our 18 and just 21 in critical Qtr #4. We had two 7 footers, Rashid Wallace and Garnett, but they seemed, especially Sheed, more interested in shooting 3s as we were losing the rebound advantage substantially, especially in the 4th Qtr. We had PP & Allen to do that with Rondo driving to the basket. Doc should have told those 2 to stay in the post & get rebs. They killed us with reb advantage 53 to 40 (I mean 13 extra chances) and only shot 38% and we did 42% but the extra chances killed us. Gasol schooled KG out rebounding him 18 to 3. What else was painful was that Kobe(GOD rest him) shoots 6 for 24 or 25% and was MVP. He’d been a goat had they lost. Sorry if any you feel I continue to cry about that game. Again, beating dead horse, it was because of the foul shot difference true but also because we were out rebounded. One of the reasons in many posts I’ve said I like a strong presence in the paint…more rebounds can make up for bad shooting nights. From me I considered that it a "Tainted Tinsel Town “ victory !!! Want revenge against the Lakers and LeBron who has had his way with us for 10 years with Miami & Cleveland. Want banner #19 and do not want them with 17 to tie us. I do realize in the last 10 years since that game that rebounds are less important as most games now are decided by which team shoots more 3s. But still, reb & TO advantages can compensate a bit for poorer shooting %s. Good post. One thing I will say, is that I dont think rebounding has gotten less important. However, I think that rebounding has become more of a team thing and less of a Center thing. It use to be your bigs would gobble all the rebounds, but these days, guys are following their own shots more. Also, we've seen an emergence of guys over 6'7 playing wing (and guard) positions who can out-jump the centers - which also cuts down on the reliance of the Center position when it comes to rebounding. Also, teams are good about using switches to draw the opposing center away from underneath the basket. It use to be that the team with the height advantage was the team with the taller center. But these days, if an opposing team has a 7 foot center and we have Theis, but we are longer at all other positions - I would expect us to win the rebounding battle. The emergence of long, athletic wings (and guards) really changed things. |
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Post by drewski6 on Sept 14, 2020 7:59:38 GMT -5
Long guards and wings are so valuable. On that note - I think that every team that passes on Ball in the upcoming draft is going to regret it. He's a better facilitator than his brother Lonzo. LaMelo really should go 1 overall. He's like Ja Morant with 5 more inches.
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Post by sfbosfan on Sept 14, 2020 9:54:17 GMT -5
I am not a Doc lover. OK beating a dead horse and opening some wounds. We had a 13 pt lead end of Qtr #3 game 7 2010. Yup, I know we lost Perkins in Game 6 and in the finals they got the egregious difference of 42 foul shots to our 18 and just 21 in critical Qtr #4. We had two 7 footers, Rashid Wallace and Garnett, but they seemed, especially Sheed, more interested in shooting 3s as we were losing the rebound advantage substantially, especially in the 4th Qtr. We had PP & Allen to do that with Rondo driving to the basket. Doc should have told those 2 to stay in the post & get rebs. They killed us with reb advantage 53 to 40 (I mean 13 extra chances) and only shot 38% and we did 42% but the extra chances killed us. Gasol schooled KG out rebounding him 18 to 3. What else was painful was that Kobe(GOD rest him) shoots 6 for 24 or 25% and was MVP. He’d been a goat had they lost. Sorry if any you feel I continue to cry about that game. Again, beating dead horse, it was because of the foul shot difference true but also because we were out rebounded. One of the reasons in many posts I’ve said I like a strong presence in the paint…more rebounds can make up for bad shooting nights. From me I considered that it a "Tainted Tinsel Town “ victory !!! Want revenge against the Lakers and LeBron who has had his way with us for 10 years with Miami & Cleveland. Want banner #19 and do not want them with 17 to tie us. I do realize in the last 10 years since that game that rebounds are less important as most games now are decided by which team shoots more 3s. But still, reb & TO advantages can compensate a bit for poorer shooting %s. Good post. One thing I will say, is that I dont think rebounding has gotten less important. However, I think that rebounding has become more of a team thing and less of a Center thing. It use to be your bigs would gobble all the rebounds, but these days, guys are following their own shots more. Also, we've seen an emergence of guys over 6'7 playing wing (and guard) positions who can out-jump the centers - which also cuts down on the reliance of the Center position when it comes to rebounding. Also, teams are good about using switches to draw the opposing center away from underneath the basket. It use to be that the team with the height advantage was the team with the taller center. But these days, if an opposing team has a 7 foot center and we have Theis, but we are longer at all other positions - I would expect us to win the rebounding battle. The emergence of long, athletic wings (and guards) really changed things. As I am a tennis player I return serve that yours is a good post too. Can’t recall many like him who were not 7 footers who were great Centers and who only played Center but Dave Cowens at 6’9” some 45+ years ago was the Celtics main Center but he did play PF frequently. Theis is similar but Dave was a better scorer. |
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Post by cole on Sept 14, 2020 10:03:48 GMT -5
I am not a Doc lover. OK beating a dead horse and opening some wounds. We had a 13 pt lead end of Qtr #3 game 7 2010. Yup, I know we lost Perkins in Game 6 and in the finals they got the egregious difference of 42 foul shots to our 18 and just 21 in critical Qtr #4. We had two 7 footers, Rashid Wallace and Garnett, but they seemed, especially Sheed, more interested in shooting 3s as we were losing the rebound advantage substantially, especially in the 4th Qtr. We had PP & Allen to do that with Rondo driving to the basket. Doc should have told those 2 to stay in the post & get rebs. They killed us with reb advantage 53 to 40 (I mean 13 extra chances) and only shot 38% and we did 42% but the extra chances killed us. Gasol schooled KG out rebounding him 18 to 3. What else was painful was that Kobe(GOD rest him) shoots 6 for 24 or 25% and was MVP. He’d been a goat had they lost. Sorry if any you feel I continue to cry about that game. Again, beating dead horse, it was because of the foul shot difference true but also because we were out rebounded. One of the reasons in many posts I’ve said I like a strong presence in the paint…more rebounds can make up for bad shooting nights. From me I considered that it a "Tainted Tinsel Town “ victory !!! Want revenge against the Lakers and LeBron who has had his way with us for 10 years with Miami & Cleveland. Want banner #19 and do not want them with 17 to tie us. I do realize in the last 10 years since that game that rebounds are less important as most games now are decided by which team shoots more 3s. But still, reb & TO advantages can compensate a bit for poorer shooting %s. Good post. One thing I will say, is that I dont think rebounding has gotten less important. However, I think that rebounding has become more of a team thing and less of a Center thing. It use to be your bigs would gobble all the rebounds, but these days, guys are following their own shots more. Also, we've seen an emergence of guys over 6'7 playing wing (and guard) positions who can out-jump the centers - which also cuts down on the reliance of the Center position when it comes to rebounding. Also, teams are good about using switches to draw the opposing center away from underneath the basket. It use to be that the team with the height advantage was the team with the taller center. But these days, if an opposing team has a 7 foot center and we have Theis, but we are longer at all other positions - I would expect us to win the rebounding battle. The emergence of long, athletic wings (and guards) really changed things. I call it inverted offense (especially our team). Pull the center out and post the guards. That's why it's so good that we have strong, rebounding guards and wings. |
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