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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:25:13 GMT -5
Three chances to score the three but the boys are getting tired ... too bad they dug such a deep hole (27pts?).
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Post by fierce on Jan 16, 2020 22:26:25 GMT -5
This game is comical. It's like watching high kids playing college kids. Ainge must do something because the problem is very obvious. He must add some height and scoring. That’s why they keep jacking up threes. They can’t go to the basket against the trees. Timid. Scared. I agree. Some of the fans here want the players to do things they're not capable of. The solution is to get a big man to do the inside scoring.
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:27:36 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:33:29 GMT -5
Back to 6 but only 1:20 left ... Smart fouls Giannis and takes an elbow to the head.
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:33:56 GMT -5
Kemba's 40th pt gets it back to 6
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:34:33 GMT -5
127-121 ... 50 ticks left
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:34:58 GMT -5
C's ball ...
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:36:20 GMT -5
Plenty of time left ...
Tatum the jam ...4
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:37:41 GMT -5
TO by Giannis ... Theis > Kemba > Smart and the three falls short.
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:38:46 GMT -5
5 secs ... down 5 on the 1-2 FTs by Middleton
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:39:51 GMT -5
Best we can do is make a three and brag that we got to within 2 after being down 27 ... Success for Brad!
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2020 22:41:11 GMT -5
We need a 6'10" PF that's a sniper ...
Looking at Boston’s roster, they seem to be one or two shooters short. Marcus Smart’s three-point percentage has been up and down all year, and hasn’t looked like himself since returning from an eye infection that sidelined him for three weeks.
After nearly setting a record threes missed without a make, Grant Williams has been shooting 39% from three since his first one went through the net. The only issue is he hasn’t been a high volume shooter from there and likely won’t be for at least his first season.
After back to back 1-4 performances from Semi Ojeleye at the end of November, he’s been shooting 41% from three, but also on limited attempts and playing time.
Ojeleye has always been fantasized about with the potential to become an elite 3-and-D player in the NBA. His physique and defensive prowess have stood out since day one, as he’s often been deployed to guard Giannis Antetokounmpo with varying results, but usually yielding encouraging signs.
The perimeter shot and offensive contributions is what’s been in question, and the primary reason he can’t get consistent floor time.
The looks of increased comfort shooting the three is encouraging for Ojeleye and the Celtics, but It’s hard to tell with such a small sample size.
Lastly, Carsen Edwards was drafted to decimate teams with his long-range marksmanship. So far he hasn’t been able to drop anything through the net, shooting a lowly 30.5% from behind the arc.
Most of Boston’s perimeter rotation outside of the four starters either can’t make shots consistently, or doesn’t shoot enough to make a huge impact.
It shouldn’t be surprising they aren’t taking as many catch and shoot threes as in recent years, but there are ways to add that back into the offense.
Boston should look to acquire a stretch big as opposed to a bruiser. The pickings are slim, and it’s hard to tell just who will be available with 14 teams still realistically competing for a playoff spot in the Western Conference, but more sellers should emerge as we get closer to the February trade deadline.
With three first round picks coming their way this summer and a roster already stuffed with guaranteed salary, the Celtics shouldn’t be hesitant to auction off one of these picks to persuade another team into a trade.
Here are a few name the Boston Celtics should take a look at should they decide to add some more shooting to the roster:
Davis Bertans – Washington Wizards
Bertans is having an out of body experience anytime he shoots from behind the three-point line. He’s just short of 44% on a colossal 8.6 attempts per game.
The only other player to sustain that level of shooting for an entire season is Stephen Curry. It was been reported by multiple outlets that Bertans is highly coveted by a multitude of contenders across the league, but Washington has indicated that they aren’t interested in doing business.
Is there validity to this claim? Perhaps. While the Wizards don’t appear to be making the playoffs this year, they still have one of the best shooting guards in the league locked up for the next couple seasons in Bradley Beal.
Former all-star point guard John Wall will continue being shelved the rest of this season as he recovers from a season ending injury he suffered last year.
If Washington does want to avoid a rebuild and be competitive, It would make sense to hold onto what they have till they’ve seen the roster at full strength; plus an additional off-season to make roster improvements.
Still, Bertans appears to be one of the most valuable players the Boston Celtics could realistically acquire at the deadline due to his low contract value of approximately $7 million annually. The upside of adding him to the roster is too good for Boston to pass up.
Jae Crowder – Memphis Grizzlies
This will now be the second consecutive season that Boston’s apparent ‘bluechip asset’ will end up being far lesser than anyone could have predicted.
As of now the Memphis Grizzlies are tied with the San Antonio Spurs for eighth in the Western Conference. The Grizzlies pick that was top six protected looks like it will convey to Boston this year, and not have nearly as much value like the Kings pick in the 2019 NBA Draft.
There’s no guarantee they make the postseason, but their current position does complicate trying to trade for any of their players.
Giving up a player like Crowder when you’re rebuilding makes sense to accumulate more assets and acquire a ton of young talent. However, when you’re in the midst of a postseason run, having 3 & D specialists is kind of important.
Crowder has never been an elite three point marksman aside from a career year during his first Boston Celtics tenure, but his current 30% clip seems like something that should improve as we progress through the season.
His ability to play guard multiple positions would allow him to fit seamlessly in Boston’s switch heavy scheme. Making him a positive addition on both ends.
While it appears unlikely, Danny Ainge should keep tabs on Crowders’ availability to see if he can bring an old friend back to town.
No hard feelings right, Jae?
Nemanja Bjelica – Sacramento Kings
After having a career night that saw him post 34 points against Orlando on Monday, Bjelica’s value has never been higher. On the year he’s putting up 12 points per game, and just like Bertans is on near 44% shooting from behind the arc.
This may be the most realistic and desirable trade of the three. Sacramento is currently is the scrum of teams vying for the last playoff spot in the conference, but appear to be on the outside looking in at this point.
When the Kings were at their best last season they were playing fast through De’Aaron Fox whether after a make or miss. Bjelica was a perfect compliment to Fox’s devastating drive and kick game in the half court or trailing for threes on the break.
They’re currently three games behind Memphis and haven’t been dealt the best hand. Injuries, coaching changes, and bad luck have all gone against them so far.
All of these factors have compounded into an underwhelming season in what was supposed to be a leap year for an up and coming team.
A package of Ojeleye, and Vincent Poirior would make the numbers work on paper. Adding a first round pick to that could make for an enticing offer, or at least start a conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 22:45:15 GMT -5
I have to post a nice remark or the LA cheerleader bashes me.
Theis had his first double double'' i think'' in only 23 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 22:57:31 GMT -5
Ya know Memphis is in the 8 slot playing really well
I'm sure Crowder ain't avaliable for trinkets or beads..
Oh almost forgot.. It ain't no lottery pick anymore.
Morant is showing why he was the 2 pik....
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 16, 2020 23:16:12 GMT -5
Tatum was terrible! Hayward is a waste, softest player in the league by a mile!! Look at their bench, and than look at our bench, Ainge should be fired for this alone!! Kemba was great, Smart was good, and Theis was good! Bench scoring or we're going nowhere!!
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Post by petey62 on Jan 17, 2020 8:04:31 GMT -5
At some point, Brad and Danny are going to have to admit that the Gordon Hayward pick up was a bust through no fault of his own. That nasty foot injury apparently has zapped just about any explosion he had. Hayward can't get to spots without using his off arm or shoulder to push defenders off to create space. His shot is more inconsistent than it has ever been.
He will always be a player who can pass and make good decisions with the ball but, based solely on his performance, Hayward should not be in the starting lineup. His elite playing days are far over and likely won't be returning.
I would easily sacrifice what he brings in a trade to acquire a capable big or an elite shooter. This team needs shooters, not scorers. We need to make a two Celtics outgoing for one incoming player trade because we need, really need, to open a roster spot to call Jamal Crawford. Put him on the court with Smart, Theis, Brown and Semi, all defensive-minded players and they can probably mask his defensive liabilities.
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Post by petey62 on Jan 17, 2020 8:17:43 GMT -5
If Danny stands pat at the trade deadline, that would be an indication that he is losing it. We've become too wing-reliant trying to copy the GSW model. The main problem is that you cannot just pick up wings and think they'll get the same results as did GSW.
Kemba IS NO Steph Brown IS NO Klay Tatum IS NO Durant Hayward IS NO Draymond Theis IS NO <whoever plays center> Smart IS NO Iguodala WE HAVE NO SHAUN LIVINGSTON who can take any guard on the block and successfully post up
And most important, Brad IS NO Kerr.
THE CELTICS CANNOT MODEL GSW AND EXPECT SIMILAR RESULTS so we need to abandon that approach and get better players and more of a motion offense with less reliance on 3-point shooting.
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Post by drewski6 on Jan 17, 2020 9:27:50 GMT -5
As Maine continues to roll, and our bench continues to struggle to score - I am left wondering : when are we going to give Edwards and Waters another look? Certainly Waters deserves a look, as he has a lot of skills that could benefit us. He gets to his spots, facilitates, is always moving, plays with energy, can shoot. Carsen...I just cant get over how well he shot at Purdue and how well he shot in the preseason. Shooting ability doesnt just vanish, so there must be some potential there. Not saying these guys are the answer, jsut saying the deadline is fast approaching and we should probably start to play them to see where they are and by extension what moves we need to make.
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Post by fierce on Jan 17, 2020 9:51:28 GMT -5
If Danny stands pat at the trade deadline, that would be an indication that he is losing it. We've become too wing-reliant trying to copy the GSW model. The main problem is that you cannot just pick up wings and think they'll get the same results as did GSW. Kemba IS NO Steph Brown IS NO Klay Tatum IS NO Durant Hayward IS NO Draymond Theis IS NO <whoever plays center> Smart IS NO Iguodala WE HAVE NO SHAUN LIVINGSTON who can take any guard on the block and successfully post up And most important, Brad IS NO Kerr. THE CELTICS CANNOT MODEL GSW AND EXPECT SIMILAR RESULTS so we need to abandon that approach and get better players and more of a motion offense with less reliance on 3-point shooting. Totally agree with you on this one, pete.
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Post by fierce on Jan 17, 2020 9:58:34 GMT -5
Besides protecting the rim and grabbing rebounds, getting a big man like Drummond will force opposing teams to play defense inside the paint.
Having a big who is a threat to score inside will relieve some of the pressure on the wing players.
Opposing bigs will also get in foul trouble, unlike what's happening now with Theis and the rest of the Celtic bigs.
Theis gets his points from jumper.
The Celtic bigs are just not a threat inside because they're too small.
If the Celts continue this path of solely relying on wing players to win games, Celts will once again exit the playoffs in the 2nd round.
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Post by petey62 on Jan 17, 2020 10:25:49 GMT -5
Fierce, you're so right. That's one of the reasons Kanter is so effective. Aint nobody double-teaming a Cetics center. They are letting him go one on one and he's been able to take advantage of that. If we had more of an inside presence, there is no doubt teams would have to gameplan for that and leave some perimeter shooters open.
My only concern with that is, the perimeter shooters still have to make shots. We oftentmes shoot horriby from the 3-point line NOT because we have a hand in our face or it is defended well. We simply miss open shots and we just cannot consistently miss open 3's.
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Post by drewski6 on Jan 17, 2020 10:36:24 GMT -5
I have confidence in Tatum, Brown, Kemba,and even Hayward's ability to hit the open 3. Of course, the entire bench cant shoot a lick from the outside.
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Post by fierce on Jan 17, 2020 10:36:36 GMT -5
Fierce, you're so right. That's one of the reasons Kanter is so effective. Aint nobody double-teaming a Cetics center. They are letting him go one on one and he's been able to take advantage of that. If we had more of an inside presence, there is no doubt teams would have to gameplan for that and leave some perimeter shooters open. My only concern with that is, the perimeter shooters still have to make shots. We oftentmes shoot horriby from the 3-point line NOT because we have a hand in our face or it is defended well. We simply miss open shots and we just cannot consistently miss open 3's.Those who usually miss are Smart, GWill, Theis, and Ojeleye. Teams are leaving those guys open for a reason. An inside-outside game will open up the outside for the Celtic shooters. Right now, without an inside-outside game, the opposing team will just focus on guarding the Celts from the outside. They know the Celtic bigs are not a threat to score inside because they're small. Kanter can't stay on the court because of his poor defense. Celts need a Center like Kanter on offense, but someon like Theis on defense.
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 17, 2020 10:36:49 GMT -5
As Maine continues to roll, and our bench continues to struggle to score - I am left wondering : when are we going to give Edwards and Waters another look? Certainly Waters deserves a look, as he has a lot of skills that could benefit us. He gets to his spots, facilitates, is always moving, plays with energy, can shoot. Carsen...I just cant get over how well he shot at Purdue and how well he shot in the preseason. Shooting ability doesnt just vanish, so there must be some potential there. Not saying these guys are the answer, jsut saying the deadline is fast approaching and we should probably start to play them to see where they are and by extension what moves we need to make. Edwards needs the ball at the top of the key, not be over standing in a corner! He's not a catch and shoot type player
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