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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 1:18:59 GMT -5
Along with Thunder, Warriors, Spurs, Heat and Clippers. The competition is fierce. Warriors and San Antonio probably have better credentials. Thunder are the favorites. But just to make that list is good progress.
Will Boston's ability to sign two max free agents coupled with their ability to keep a stocked roster for a while win out? Can Brad Stevens match up with the Popovich magic? Both, Spurs and Warriors will have to gut their roster and Durant has to be aware that 3-star lineups just don't work out. Look at The Cavs and the Heat. Or is it that they don't work out with LeBron?
Excited at the possibility!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 1:22:56 GMT -5
KD, please get excited about playing with Horford or Howard.
How do we match up with the Warriors and their 3 All-Stars? Just the fear of a gutted roster?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 6:49:07 GMT -5
The Warriors have about 80 mil on the books for next year. The cap is supposed to be about 94 mil with the luxury tax at 113 mil. The salary cap and luxury tax is expected to jump close $110 million and $127 million for the 2017-18 season. Doesn't look like they need to gut the team. Btw James has three rings which i think is more than any player in the league
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 25, 2016 7:34:04 GMT -5
Just STOP IT please!!
Durant is not coming here and neither is any other top free agents. Tell me why they would?
last year we had money too and ended up with Amir.
better brace yourself for the press conference with Ainge smiling next to Turner and Sully with their new $12-15M deals!!
that is if they don't get better offers.
the two euro picks will be toiling in Europe and if Ainge is LUCKY he will be able to trade Jackson and Bentil to teams with spots at the end of their bench, so he can recoup some future second round pick for them.
"in Danny we trust"
LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 7:59:49 GMT -5
They never stop even after the results prove them wrong year after year. 48 wins last year got everone excited but a few who seen thu the smokescreen. We had a losing record against teams 500 and above. Beating the bad teams over and over doesn't get you closer to a ring.
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Post by kal on Jun 25, 2016 8:33:43 GMT -5
I will be surprised if he signs with us. Agree with your reason, also I think salary cap thing is great opportunity for owners to pocket $ as there is no rule to meet cap max. Wyc is going to spend $ on players like Amir J and teach the fan base how good they can be in Celtics system, and that they are keeping cap space if anyone becomes available. They will be a mediocre team for years to come unless they change the management; DA and/or BS. BS is at his worst developing rookies, we got too many draft assets and no one wants to trade with DA - they have management conflict. If the owners want to really win they should get rid of Danny family empire and hire someone like PRiley, aggressive recruiters. Great thing in all of this is we still want Celtics to win, hoping for miracles ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 25, 2016 11:51:45 GMT -5
While it would surprise me if he signs anywhere but OKC, at least he can hear the pitch: 1. You'll be out of the West. 2. Only LeBron will stand between you and the Finals (that is true, btw). 3. Once you are a star in BOS, you are loved forever - look at Ortiz and Brady 4. The money is the same everywhere except OKC. 5. We have a great young coach who is not going anywhere.
That being said, with the addition of Olapido, I'd be SHOCKED if he didn't re-sign with OKC.
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 25, 2016 14:53:36 GMT -5
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Post by croc on Jun 25, 2016 15:43:37 GMT -5
While it would surprise me if he signs anywhere but OKC, at least he can hear the pitch: 1. You'll be out of the West. 2. Only LeBron will stand between you and the Finals (that is true, btw). 3. Once you are a star in BOS, you are loved forever - look at Ortiz and Brady *4. The money is the same everywhere except OKC. 5. We have a great young coach who is not going anywhere. That being said, with the addition of Olapido, I'd be SHOCKED if he didn't re-sign with OKC. * Can't he sign a beyond max deal with OKC and be traded in a "sign & trade"? 6. The C's can sign another max FA. To be in the conversation is great. Maybe that's 'Pot Roast' Knighton or Thomas helping out, or maybe Durant is a student of NBA history. It's still great to be included. We can hope other top FAs include the C's.
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 25, 2016 15:49:16 GMT -5
While it would surprise me if he signs anywhere but OKC, at least he can hear the pitch: 1. You'll be out of the West. 2. Only LeBron will stand between you and the Finals (that is true, btw). 3. Once you are a star in BOS, you are loved forever - look at Ortiz and Brady *4. The money is the same everywhere except OKC. 5. We have a great young coach who is not going anywhere. That being said, with the addition of Olapido, I'd be SHOCKED if he didn't re-sign with OKC. * Can't he sign a beyond max deal with OKC and be traded in a "sign & trade"? 6. The C's can sign another max FA. To be in the conversation is great. Maybe that's 'Pot Roast' Knighton or Thomas helping out, or maybe Durant is a student of NBA history. It's still great to be included. We can hope other top FAs include the C's. exactly..you never know...at lease he wants to talk to us and see whats up...you never know he might like stevens he might like ainge? he might like the celtics? we don't know what he is thinking?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 16:11:37 GMT -5
Aaah!
So the Warriors don't have to gut the roster? They have only 14M in cap space and that too after they renounce Barnes and Livingston. After that, they have to get rid of Bogut or Iguodala to make enough room to sign Durant. Then they will be limited to just signing vet min players. That is a gutted roster. Yes, they have 4 All-Stars. But are there enough shots to go around? Which of Curry, Tompson or Durant will switch over to being a defensive stopper?
Does San Antonio continue to have luster? They are an aging team and got run off by OKC in the last meeting.
BTW, Boston has made it to the playoffs the last two years. How many playoff appearance for the Cavs before LeBron joined them? Basically, they added two players: LeBron and Kevin Love. Also Love has been very ineffective. Boston can also add two players. KD gets to East. The supporting cast is ready. There is long term sustainability.
Yes, KD will likely stay in OKC. But only for money reasons. I don't think that he is in love with the OKC idea. I don't think that Boston is at the top of KD's list. But they have a quality pitch. He will be influenced, especially if he signs just a 2-year extension with termination option.
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 25, 2016 16:17:52 GMT -5
Aaah! So the Warriors don't have to gut the roster? They have only 14M in cap space and that too after they renounce Barnes and Livingston. After that, they have to get rid of Bogut or Iguodala to make enough room to sign Durant. Then they will be limited to just signing vet min players. That is a gutted roster. Yes, they have 4 All-Stars. But are there enough shots to go around? Which of Curry, Tompson or Durant will switch over to being a defensive stopper? Does San Antonio continue to have luster? They are an aging team and got run off by OKC in the last meeting. BTW, Boston has made it to the playoffs the last two years. How many playoff appearance for the Cavs before LeBron joined them? Basically, they added two players: LeBron and Kevin Love. Also Love has been very ineffective. Boston can also add two players. KD gets to East. The supporting cast is ready. There is long term sustainability. Yes, KD will likely stay in OKC. But only for money reasons. I don't think that he is in love with the OKC idea. I don't think that Boston is at the top of KD's list. But they have a quality pitch. He will be influenced, especially if he signs just a 2-year extension with termination option. and just think we went to the playoffs 2 seasons with a bunch of roll players...give us 1 or 2 solid players we might take off! don't need to be KD but it would be nice....
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Post by mellymel6 on Jun 25, 2016 16:30:38 GMT -5
I will be surprised if he signs with us. Agree with your reason, also I think salary cap thing is great opportunity for owners to pocket $ as there is no rule to meet cap max. Wyc is going to spend $ on players like Amir J and teach the fan base how good they can be in Celtics system, and that they are keeping cap space if anyone becomes available. They will be a mediocre team for years to come unless they change the management; DA and/or BS. BS is at his worst developing rookies, we got too many draft assets and no one wants to trade with DA - they have management conflict. If the owners want to really win they should get rid of Danny family empire and hire someone like PRiley, aggressive recruiters.Great thing in all of this is we still want Celtics to win, hoping for miracles THIS+++++++++
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 26, 2016 2:17:22 GMT -5
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Post by raider3524 on Jun 26, 2016 3:02:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 8:36:33 GMT -5
Aaah! So the Warriors don't have to gut the roster? They have only 14M in cap space and that too after they renounce Barnes and Livingston. After that, they have to get rid of Bogut or Iguodala to make enough room to sign Durant. Then they will be limited to just signing vet min players. That is a gutted roster. Yes, they have 4 All-Stars. But are there enough shots to go around? Which of Curry, Tompson or Durant will switch over to being a defensive stopper? Does San Antonio continue to have luster? They are an aging team and got run off by OKC in the last meeting. BTW, Boston has made it to the playoffs the last two years. How many playoff appearance for the Cavs before LeBron joined them? Basically, they added two players: LeBron and Kevin Love. Also Love has been very ineffective. Boston can also add two players. KD gets to East. The supporting cast is ready. There is long term sustainability. Yes, KD will likely stay in OKC. But only for money reasons. I don't think that he is in love with the OKC idea. I don't think that Boston is at the top of KD's list. But they have a quality pitch. He will be influenced, especially if he signs just a 2-year extension with termination option. Bogut in all reports will not be signed. Iguodala will walk if Durrant is signed. Durrant reportably said he had some interest in Goldon State. iF he picks GS they will find the money. Regardlees he'll likely resign another year at OKC it's almost 100% he won't be in Boston next year so why even bring it up. Move on to something more realistic like us getting knocked out in the ist round again next year. That's our most likely outcome for next year.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 26, 2016 9:44:14 GMT -5
Nice article. Danny knows the fans are unhappy with his inability to make a trade. So, he needs to go hard core after this years free agents. We'll know better in a couple of weeks. Unhappy to read, though, that they are looking at more than two of our picks going overseas!!
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Post by croc on Jun 26, 2016 14:00:09 GMT -5
98.5 interviewed an OKC writer. While the writer thinks Durant will re-sign with OKC, he at least consideres the C's a darkhourse contender. The writer said Durant will probably sign a 1 year deal with an option, then opt out and cash in again in 2017. That's 2 shots.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jun 26, 2016 14:28:32 GMT -5
98.5 interviewed an OKC writer. While the writer thinks Durant will re-sign with OKC, he at least consideres the C's a darkhourse contender. The writer said Durant will probably sign a 1 year deal with an option, then opt out and cash in again in 2017. That's 2 shots. Yes, it is. We need to sell him on getting out of the West!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 15:21:09 GMT -5
Aaah! So the Warriors don't have to gut the roster? They have only 14M in cap space and that too after they renounce Barnes and Livingston. After that, they have to get rid of Bogut or Iguodala to make enough room to sign Durant. Then they will be limited to just signing vet min players. That is a gutted roster. Yes, they have 4 All-Stars. But are there enough shots to go around? Which of Curry, Tompson or Durant will switch over to being a defensive stopper? Does San Antonio continue to have luster? They are an aging team and got run off by OKC in the last meeting. BTW, Boston has made it to the playoffs the last two years. How many playoff appearance for the Cavs before LeBron joined them? Basically, they added two players: LeBron and Kevin Love. Also Love has been very ineffective. Boston can also add two players. KD gets to East. The supporting cast is ready. There is long term sustainability. Yes, KD will likely stay in OKC. But only for money reasons. I don't think that he is in love with the OKC idea. I don't think that Boston is at the top of KD's list. But they have a quality pitch. He will be influenced, especially if he signs just a 2-year extension with termination option. Bogut in all reports will not be signed. Iguodala will walk if Durrant is signed. Durrant reportably said he had some interest in Goldon State. iF he picks GS they will find the money. Regardlees he'll likely resign another year at OKC it's almost 100% he won't be in Boston next year so why even bring it up. Move on to something more realistic like us getting knocked out in the ist round again next year. That's our most likely outcome for next year. Sometimes I wonder with whom are you having these conversations. Sometimes I wonder with whom are you having these conversations?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 15:44:36 GMT -5
Bogut in all reports will not be signed. Iguodala will walk if Durrant is signed. Durrant reportably said he had some interest in Goldon State. iF he picks GS they will find the money. Regardlees he'll likely resign another year at OKC it's almost 100% he won't be in Boston next year so why even bring it up. Move on to something more realistic like us getting knocked out in the ist round again next year. That's our most likely outcome for next year. Sometimes I wonder with whom are you having these conversations. Sometimes I wonder with whom are you having these conversations? Me to. My guess is it's with folks who want to escape reality. Carry on don't let me dash your dreams.
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Post by croc on Jun 26, 2016 16:31:02 GMT -5
Escape reality...That's pretty funny from the guy with the Timothy Leary avatar.
There are a ton of FA possibilities. DA will have to overspend max money and sell the place. Maybe Whiteside gets his payday.
The C's should have drawn a better pair than Atl and gone into the second round. A guy like Whiteside might get them the into conference championship round.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 17:01:16 GMT -5
I thought it was not sure many on here would have even connected the two. Yea the FA market is wide open and Ainge will have tp pull a deal or two Whiteside and another big decent PF might get us to the finals against Cleveland. Crowder Smart and Thomas will have to shoot over 30% unlike they did in last years playoffs. We wern't getting out of the first round regardless of who we played. We had a losing record against teams over 500 last year. Teams pick up the pace during the playoffs we played as hard as we could all year. Unfortunately for us winning in the regular season hardly prepared us for the playoffs. Stevens was out coached and we died trying to hit desperate threes with poor shooters. Thomas playing the two guard at 5/8'' was a joke. Turner had to come in and play the point and Stevens looked shell shocked on the bench. On the brightside we now have one potential star in Brown which is one more than we had last year.
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2016 17:26:13 GMT -5
The Celtics might not necessarily be the sort of obvious title contender that teams like the Warriors, Spurs, and Thunder are at the moment, but adding Durant would definitely move Boston neck-and-neck with the champion Cleveland Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference. Boston's sales pitch to Durant could include: • Up-and-coming team: With 39-year-old Brad Stevens and his new long-term deal at the controls, these Celtics won 48 games and competed for a top spot in the East last season. Isaiah Thomas elevated to All-Star status, and Boston thrived behind an affordable and intriguing young core that includes the likes of Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, and Marcus Smart. Players like Thomas remain adamant that Boston is just one player away from being a legitimate contender. • Cap space: The Celtics have a nine-man core signed to less than $34 million in guaranteed salary for next season. Thanks to draft-and-stash possibilities, Boston is unlikely to dent too much salary despite making six picks in Thursday's draft, and that leaves Boston with enough cap space to pursue two max-contract free agents this summer. The biggest part of Boston's pitch would be: Pick a friend to join you here. If Durant wants to play with fellow free agent Al Horford, the Celtics can sign both (and still have enough cash left to fill out their roster with the sort of capable role players that every title contender needs). If Durant prefers a star already on another roster, the Celtics have the assets to try to pry that player free. • Sustainability: Some of the surefire title contenders might be able to create enough room to add Durant this summer, but their ability to continue adding talent -- or simply keep their stars -- further down the road would be compromised by their salary bloat. The Celtics have positioned themselves for long-term flexibility. And that's further aided by Boston's ridiculous draft-pick treasure chest. The Celtics can pitch Durant that, not only would Boston be an immediate title contender with him, but that they might also have the No. 1 pick in each of the next two drafts (if the Brooklyn Nets are slow to rebuild). There will be a steady influx of talent -- or at least tradable assets -- to ensure Boston remains competitive throughout the length of Durant's next contract. • The tradition: Durant already gushed about the Celtics' tradition when the Thunder played here in March. Bringing banner No. 18 to Boston would cement his legacy as a player and make him a legend in these parts. If the Celtics were smart, they'd get other area sports stars like Tom Brady and David Ortiz to relay what it's like to have this city in the palm of your hand. If nothing else, he's got all those free crab legs promised by Legal Sea Foods. Is that enough to compete with the likes of the Spurs or Warriors? That depends on what makes Durant tick. But Thomas, who has raved about playing in Boston, is adamant that the Celtics have a real chance to land Durant. "We definitely have a shot [at recruiting Durant]. I know that for sure," Thomas said earlier this week on Sirius XM NBA radio. "And I’m just trying to reach out when I can and stay in his ear a little bit here and there. I know it’s a tough time for him because everybody’s probably trying to reach out and get him to go where they want him to go. But my relationship with him is real genuine, and hopefully I can get him to come to Boston and we can bring banner 18 here." Truth be told, just getting a meeting with Durant would be a win for the Celtics. That would be the surest sign yet that star players are taking notice of what's happening in Boston. And even if Durant ultimately elects to stay in Oklahoma City or pursue a different challenge elsewhere, then other star players might think, "If Kevin Durant is considering Boston, maybe I should, too."
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