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Post by cgreensmashmachine on Jun 10, 2016 8:45:58 GMT -5
YESTERDAY- Was the Kevin Love sweepstakes in Boston.
TODAY- Is all about Kevin Durant sweepstakes.
Gary Tanguay says we should trade the #3 pick for Love. And although we could offer CLE the most value for Love AND although CLE will put Love on the market if GS wins the title, I still don't think CLE likes what we have to offer. They've already made it clear that Lebron doesn't want to trade any starters for draft picks/young players.
Here's how I rank Kevin Love in regards to what we do with pick #3:
Everyone here knows that DA and Wyc prefer to trade pick #3 over keeping it. Below is what I consider the C's priority, in order, and NOT what I'm personally hoping to see happen:
1) Offer pick #3 along with other picks/players to CHI for Butler. CHI will reject the trade- they're not about to begin rebuilding, and as you could see at the lottery show on May 17th, CHI clearly considers Butler as the new face of their franchise. (*Note- WHY take a crack at Jimmy Butler BEFORE making an offer for Cousins, Okafor, or Love??? I think that DA's ideal off-season for the C's begins with a Butler trade, is followed by an Al Horford signing, and is completed with Kevin Durant).
2) Close your eyes, cross your fingers, and call Vlade Divac again. SAC will reject the trade- sure, Divac loves Sacramento native Marquese Chriss, and sure, Cousins had another ugly season in terms of locker room behavior and leadership. But Divac has maintained all along, that if he does trade Cousins, he still wants the whole world for him, and since #3 just isn't good enough (had we wound up with the first or second pick, this may be a different story) Divac will give Cousins at least one more chance with new coach Dave Joerger.
3) Trade pick #3 for Jahlil Okafor. As much as I believe that DA is still very fond of Kevin Love, I think he likes Okafor a little bit better. Unlike CLE, PHI would pounce on this offer. Last year BOS was rumored to have made offers to both PHI and CLE, and rumored to have offered more to PHI for Okafor than they did to CLE for Love (again, because CLE doesn't want draft picks). I think Okafor's value is higher right now, making Okafor a more valuable asset should DA decide to keep him short-term. And of course, matching the money is easy compared to matching the money necessary for a Kevin Love deal.
4) Trade pick #3 for Kevin Love. CHI rejected us, SAC rejected us, and PHI traded Noel for Teague and thus decided to hold on to Okafor. At this point, I'm sure DA would prefer to trade pick #3 for Kevin Love versus drafting anyone in this draft. I think this may require a 3 or 4-team deal, but it seems more likely than DA opting to keep the pick.
*If 1 - 4 fail, at this point I think the C's keep the pick. IMO it's more likely that we'll trade pick #3 instead of keeping it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 8:53:27 GMT -5
If Ainge gets Love im done with the Celtics after 50 plus years. Okafor is ok he 's one of the best in the paint. Hopefully his D and rebounding will get better.
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Post by cgreensmashmachine on Jun 10, 2016 9:40:52 GMT -5
If DA does trade for Love, I think he'll wait until after the draft. I doubt we'll see a draft night deal for Love, only because CLE probably isn't very excited about our 3rd pick. And I also wouldn't expect DA to go strong on Love until he's exhausted every effort to get Kevin Durant- NO WAY is DA going to pay the king's ransom for Love when Durant is still a possibility.
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Post by myurkus on Jun 10, 2016 12:56:03 GMT -5
love sucks. he is weak, he is injury prone, he plays no defense and he makes over 20mil a year. I would hate to have him on our team, I would rather resign Sully. No thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 16:20:14 GMT -5
Durrant will be in OKC again next year is my guess and have no influence on Love. I wish it was the opposite but one more year in OkC makes too much sense.
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Post by jgallag1 on Jun 11, 2016 5:57:33 GMT -5
I still wouldn't hate to have Love in the fold. He's not a great defensive player, but he can be serviceable, and can be helped by his teammates. His offensive game is exactly what the Celtics could use. He's not one of those guys with ice in his veins it seems, but you don't need everyone on your team to be the clutch guy. I wouldn't sell the farm for him, but I'd be interested to see how motivated the Cavs are going to be to blame the whole series on him and ship him out of town. That's why I see the move happening sooner rather than later. DA will take advantage of it if it's a good deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 6:04:25 GMT -5
I still wouldn't hate to have Love in the fold. He's not a great defensive player, but he can be serviceable, and can be helped by his teammates. His offensive game is exactly what the Celtics could use. He's not one of those guys with ice in his veins it seems, but you don't need everyone on your team to be the clutch guy. I wouldn't sell the farm for him, but I'd be interested to see how motivated the Cavs are going to be to blame the whole series on him and ship him out of town. That's why I see the move happening sooner rather than later. DA will take advantage of it if it's a good deal. You think he's worth almost 100 mil in the next four years? That's alot for someone who's just"" serviceable"". We also lose picks and or players. Your farm better be a big one this takes out a large chunk of it. |
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 11, 2016 8:29:27 GMT -5
Loves current trade value= a bag of chips!
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Post by jgallag1 on Jun 11, 2016 19:01:36 GMT -5
I still wouldn't hate to have Love in the fold. He's not a great defensive player, but he can be serviceable, and can be helped by his teammates. His offensive game is exactly what the Celtics could use. He's not one of those guys with ice in his veins it seems, but you don't need everyone on your team to be the clutch guy. I wouldn't sell the farm for him, but I'd be interested to see how motivated the Cavs are going to be to blame the whole series on him and ship him out of town. That's why I see the move happening sooner rather than later. DA will take advantage of it if it's a good deal. You think he's worth almost 100 mil in the next four years? That's alot for someone who's just"" serviceable"". We also lose picks and or players. Your farm better be a big one this takes out a large chunk of it. That is a lot, and he's definitely overpaid, but with the amount of young contracts, I think it could be worth it. The serviceable label was for his defense. On offense and on the boards, I think you'd see a guy more like the Minny version of Love than the Cleveland version, which would be a huge upgrade. That said, this ideally wouldn't be the biggest move of the offseason in that scenario, and is only one option of many. That's why I'd only do it for the right price. With the way Cleveland has misused him, and the fact he happened to be on the bench for their one win, he's going to be the scapegoat of this failed run. DA might be able to take advantage of that and get him at a low cost of picks and players. THAT's what makes him a good target. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 19:40:52 GMT -5
His salary alone is too high for me. I can't see many teams interested in him. We can do better we still have two years at least .Don't throw it away on a just a little better thn average player.
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Post by myurkus on Jun 11, 2016 19:50:06 GMT -5
He sucks. Overated player who can put up great numbers on a garbage team. Exactly the opposite type of player this team is building to, especially with his price tag. This guy is not a winner, never has been, we dont want him. Let him go to LA or something. Pass!!!!
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Post by jgallag1 on Jun 11, 2016 20:57:20 GMT -5
His salary alone is too high for me. I can't see many teams interested in him. We can do better we still have two years at least .Don't throw it away on a just a little better thn average player. I can definitely understand not wanting that salary, but in a couple of years he's not going to look too expensive with the cap going up and up. I also wouldn't trade too much for him. I wouldn't look to get him with any Nets picks...but what you said about not many teams being interested is just more leverage for DA. I think he could be had at a steal between that and fan pressure in Cleveland. In that case, nothing would be thrown away at all. I do completely understand your side though, and wouldn't be happy if that was the only move made this offseason, or if they threw a ton of assets at Cleveland for him. |
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Post by billge on Jun 11, 2016 21:11:52 GMT -5
2 much money , 2 little love
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Post by billge on Jun 11, 2016 21:13:10 GMT -5
and don't call me junior !
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Post by myurkus on Jun 11, 2016 22:31:31 GMT -5
what you get him for is not the issue. the issue is that he is under contract for 21 per. even with the cap going up that is a kick in the pants.
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Post by Admin on Jun 21, 2016 17:31:46 GMT -5
$ aside bill, this is what is being said about trade value; ... the team is still expected to listen to any trade inquiries it receives on Kevin Love, according to ESPN’s Brian Windhorst. Appearing on Zach Lowe’s podcast (hat tip to RealGM.com), Windhorst identified the Celtics as the ideal trade partner for Love, suggesting that the Cavaliers “really like” Avery Bradley and could also ask for Marcus Smart and a draft pick (not the No. 3) if Boston shows interest in making a deal. www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/06/central-rumors-cavaliers-love-bucks-pistons.html |
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