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Post by puddin on May 26, 2022 19:17:52 GMT -5
Couldn't give one fricking hoot about who is a 'superstar'...geezuz fricking christ, shut the eff up already...we are in the middle of a historic run, especially considering what a mess we were in the first half of the season...let's be stoked... fiercy is hell bent and determined to make the case that he has the smartest NBA mind in the known universe.
By trying to dominate any/all discussions to the point of running them into the ground, he hopes to hide from us his singular fatal flaw.... remarkably thin skin.
UGH!!!
Pud
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Post by fierce on May 26, 2022 19:19:25 GMT -5
It's a simple formula. Max Contract + 1st team All-NBA = Superstar
I'm not asking everybody to agree with me. The problem started when I was told that I was not allowed to call JT a superstar here. Why am I being censured for calling JT a superstar when there are numerous posters here who say JT is a superstar. < because you deceive and change the challenge when proven wrong or unable to justify your flippant statements.
ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!
WHY WAS SIMMONS GIVEN A MAX CONTRACT WHEN HE NEVER MADE 1ST TEAM IF THATS THE CRITERIA FOR SUPERSTAR?
WHY DOES BOOKER GET A MAX AND SUPERSTAR STATUS WHEN HE HAD'T MADE 1ST TEAM BEFORE THIS YEAR?
WHY DID JORDAN MAKE 1ST TEAM WHEN HE WASN'T A SUPERSTAR AND DIDN'T HAVE A MAX DEAL?
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Post by elvissurfs on May 26, 2022 21:06:21 GMT -5
It's a simple formula. Max Contract + 1st team All-NBA = Superstar
I'm not asking everybody to agree with me. The problem started when I was told that I was not allowed to call JT a superstar here. Why am I being censured for calling JT a superstar when there are numerous posters here who say JT is a superstar. Fierce...all is good...you are an intelligent poster, knowledgeable about basketball, without a doubt...the thing is we dont care about whether Tatum or Brown is better, we are just happy that both are on our team!...Go Celtics!...
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Post by cole on May 26, 2022 21:25:40 GMT -5
It's a simple formula. Max Contract + 1st team All-NBA = Superstar
I'm not asking everybody to agree with me. The problem started when I was told that I was not allowed to call JT a superstar here.Why am I being censured for calling JT a superstar when there are numerous posters here who say JT is a superstar. National TV ads = Superstar Like I said before manute bol was a superstar. Everyone in the world knew and knows him.
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Post by elvissurfs on May 26, 2022 21:35:25 GMT -5
It's a simple formula. Max Contract + 1st team All-NBA = Superstar < Revised from original challenge to suit his needsI'm not asking everybody to agree with me. The problem started when I was told that I was not allowed to call JT a superstar here.
Why am I being censured for calling JT a superstar when there are numerous posters here who say JT is a superstar. National TV ads = Superstar Like I said before manute bol was a superstar. Everyone in the world knew and knows him. Remember his name, do not remember anything he did...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 26, 2022 21:39:01 GMT -5
Oh, and btw, the Warriors are torching Dallas and whoever the heck is their new Euro hero...done deal...
Donka Lukavic?...
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Post by fierce on May 26, 2022 21:43:53 GMT -5
Oh, and btw, the Warriors are torching Dallas and whoever the heck is their new Euro hero...done deal... Donka Lukavic?... Who you got if it's GSW vs. Boston?
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Post by sfbosfan on May 26, 2022 22:23:40 GMT -5
Going to be a classic matchup. California teams...never the Warriors or Clippers, only the Lakers. We are both good defensive teams with no dominating big man like Embiid, Giannis etc. but their Looney reminds me of our Williams so that would be a wash. They are a good 3 pts shooting team & maybe even better than ours. Green(Horford & Theis to put some muscle on him) is an animal I don’t like and hope he fouls out. Naturally Curry and Klay are their Tatum & Brown but Wiggins & Poole are effective scorers too. I think we would be better driving to the basket with Tatum & Brown & getting more foul shots. I think Vegas will pick them. There will be a lot of Green in the stands with many ex-pats living here and many who would fly out to sight see also.
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Post by fierce on May 26, 2022 22:28:21 GMT -5
Celts have size advantage but GSW has championship experience.
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Post by cole on May 26, 2022 22:31:08 GMT -5
Celts have size advantage but GSW has championship experience. They have a weak link defensively in steph.
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Post by fierce on May 26, 2022 22:32:43 GMT -5
Celts have size advantage but GSW has championship experience. They have a weak link defensively in steph. True. If this is GSW's 1st trip to the finals, I would pick Boston in 5.
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Post by Admin on May 26, 2022 23:03:58 GMT -5
It's a simple formula. Max Contract + 1st team All-NBA = Superstar I'm not asking everybody to agree with me. The problem started when I was told that I was not allowed to call JT a superstar here. Why am I being censured for calling JT a superstar when there are numerous posters here who say JT is a superstar. Now I'm pissed!
As usual when you get a fact that you can't explain you move the goalpost.
This is what you queried the board with: "Give me one name of an NBA player who made 1st team All-NBA who's not a superstar."
Not 1st team on a max contract!
When given Jordan as a Non-Superstar you pull the "Oh but he didn't get a max contract" so now he's excluded because your covering your ass with a superstar has to be 1st team and on a max?
Later you said "NBA teams don't pay players 30m+ per year (referring to Booker) if that player is not a superstar" when I said I was borderline on Booker. So what comes 1st the chicken (1st team) or the egg ($Max)?
When I asked you to explain Simmons your response is "he never made 1st team" as if that had anything to do with why a team would give him a max deal ... your argument is that he's a superstar and hence he got a max deal. How can he be a superstar if he didn't make 1st team then? Talking in circles as usual ...
You are so full of shit that I'll be deleting any and all future posts where you continue with this BS!
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Post by fierce on May 26, 2022 23:25:43 GMT -5
It's a simple formula. Max Contract + 1st team All-NBA = Superstar I'm not asking everybody to agree with me. The problem started when I was told that I was not allowed to call JT a superstar here. Why am I being censured for calling JT a superstar when there are numerous posters here who say JT is a superstar. Now I'm pissed!
As usual when you get a fact that you can't explain you move the goalpost.
This is what you queried the board with: "Give me one name of an NBA player who made 1st team All-NBA who's not a superstar."
Not 1st team on a max contract!
When given Jordan as a Non-Superstar you pull the "Oh but he didn't get a max contract" so now he's excluded because your covering your ass with a superstar has to be 1st team and on a max?
Later you said "NBA teams don't pay players 30m+ per year (referring to Booker) if that player is not a superstar" when I said I was borderline on Booker. So what comes 1st the chicken (1st team) or the egg ($Max)?
When I asked you to explain Simmons your response is "he never made 1st team" as if that had anything to do with why a team would give him a max deal ... your argument is that he's a superstar and hence he got a max deal. How can he be a superstar if he didn't make 1st team then? Talking in circles as usual ...
You are so full of shit that I'll be deleting any and all future posts where you continue with this BS!
DeAndre Jordan was the best Center during that 2016 season. He was a superstar at that time. So what if he was only a superstar for 1 season? Like what some of the posters here said, guys like Harden and Westbrook are former superstars. But the main issue here is has Jayson Tatum reached the level of a superstar. According to the stats, the contract, and the accolades JT got, he's a superstar. If you don't agree with that then that's fine, but you can't censure me for calling JT a superstar when multiple posters here are also saying JT is a superstar.
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Post by Admin on May 26, 2022 23:39:05 GMT -5
I can tell you to stop the repetitive nature of your posts on this subject as it's irritating to the entire forum and I made it clear that I don't appreciate your attempt to either brainwash readers or justify your BBIQ especially when you have a habit of moving the goalposts as you did by adding the Max Contract to 1st Team criteria after the fact.
When I gave you Jordan then you said he didn't have a max contract.
When asked about Simmons who had a max contract and clearly is no superstar you say he never made 1st team. But you said no team gives a max contract to someone who isn't a superstar! Can't be a superstar if not 1st team according to you ... revised criteria max & 1st team. < Moving Goalposts!
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Post by fierce on May 26, 2022 23:43:37 GMT -5
Then what is your definition of a superstar?
cole said he considers an NBA player a superstar if the player appears on TV commercials.
So what's a superstar for you?
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Post by fierce on May 26, 2022 23:46:31 GMT -5
I'm also not trying to brainwash anybody here because there are already numerous posters here calling JT a superstar.
Why are you singling me out?
You should also tell drewski, ky, cole, and the other posters here who calls JT a superstar to stop calling JT a superstar.
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Post by Admin on May 26, 2022 23:59:25 GMT -5
That's fine ... let posters have it their way. Stop trying to force your beliefs on other posters!
Nobody here is censured because they believe JT is already a superstar.
Some (me included) don't think he's done enough to earn that label. Consistency or carrying his team to Conference Titles or even a Championship surely qualifies your top player for that status. But not one great half season and making 1st team by default just because he already has a max contract. All that says to me is his GM/Ownership have lots of faith in his further development and see him as their star guy and want to tie him up long term. Great foresight by them especially if he is instrumental in getting banner 18 ... I could say the same about Rob Williams too but will he be considered a superstar? Not unless he becomes the next Jokic.
So if you're proud to cheer for Tatum, especially after being in favor of Fultz originally, I salute you for recognizing that you were wrong and Ainge was right and jumping on the bandwagon but you don't have to remind us every hour that your new guy is a superstar.
And as I said ... if you ignore my comment I will delete your posts and if it persists as usual I will suspend you. So abide by my request and move on to another subject like winning ECF or potentially facing GSW and what advantages/disadvantages exist in facing them in the Finals.
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Post by fierce on May 27, 2022 0:02:13 GMT -5
That's fine ... let posters have it their way. Stop trying to force your beliefs on other posters! Nobody here is censured because they believe JT is already a superstar. Some (me included) don't think he's done enough to earn that label. Consistency or carrying his team to Conference Titles or even a Championship surely qualifies your top player for that status. But not one great half season and making 1st team by default just because he already has a max contract. All that says to me is his GM/Ownership have lots of faith in his further development and see him as their star guy and want to tie him up long term. Great foresight by them especially if he is instrumental in getting banner 18 ... I could say the same about Rob Williams too but will he be considered a superstar? Not unless he becomes the next Jokic. So if you're proud to cheer for Tatum, especially after being in favor of Fultz originally, I salute you for recognizing that you were wrong and Ainge was right and jumping on the bandwagon but you don't have to remind us every hour that your new guy is a superstar. And as I said ... if you ignore my comment I will delete your posts and if it persists as usual I will suspend you. So abide by my request and move on to another subject like winning ECF or potentially facing GSW and what advantages/disadvantages exist in facing them in the Finals. Really??? I'm not surprised considering you suspended me for calling you out for wanting to trade the #3 pick, in 2017, for Jonathan Isaac and Donovan Mitchell.
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Post by fierce on May 27, 2022 0:02:45 GMT -5
If you don't think JT is a superstar, what is your definition of a superstar?
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Post by fierce on May 27, 2022 0:04:52 GMT -5
Also, regarding Fultz, here's the real story.
It's true I wanted Fultz when the Celts had the #1 pick.
But when Ainge traded the #1 pick for the #3 pick, I wanted Tatum and you wanted Josh Jackson.
I would've been wrong if Ainge used the #1 pick on Tatum.
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Post by Admin on May 27, 2022 0:05:19 GMT -5
If you don't think JT is a superstar, what is your definition of a superstar?
Clearly you didn't read my post above!
This act of yours is tiring ... I won't engage you over past quarrels or your need to challenge my authority here as Admin.
Last Warning!
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Post by fierce on May 27, 2022 0:06:37 GMT -5
If you don't think JT is a superstar, what is your definition of a superstar?
Clearly you didn't read my post above!
This act of yours is tiring ... I won't engage you over past quarrels or your need to challenge my authority here as Admin.
Last Warning!
I'm simply asking a question. What's wrong with that? I will have a better understanding of what you're thinking if you give your standard of what a superstar should be.
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Post by Admin on May 27, 2022 0:08:30 GMT -5
That's fine ... let posters have it their way. Stop trying to force your beliefs on other posters! Nobody here is censured because they believe JT is already a superstar. Some (me included) don't think he's done enough to earn that label. Consistency or carrying his team to Conference Titles or even a Championship surely qualifies your top player for that status. But not one great half season and making 1st team by default just because he already has a max contract. All that says to me is his GM/Ownership have lots of faith in his further development and see him as their star guy and want to tie him up long term. Great foresight by them especially if he is instrumental in getting banner 18 ... I could say the same about Rob Williams too but will he be considered a superstar? Not unless he becomes the next Jokic. So if you're proud to cheer for Tatum, especially after being in favor of Fultz originally, I salute you for recognizing that you were wrong and Ainge was right and jumping on the bandwagon but you don't have to remind us every hour that your new guy is a superstar. And as I said ... if you ignore my comment I will delete your posts and if it persists as usual I will suspend you. So abide by my request and move on to another subject like winning ECF or potentially facing GSW and what advantages/disadvantages exist in facing them in the Finals. Really??? I'm not surprised considering you suspended me for calling you out for wanting to trade the #3 pick, in 2017, for Jonathan Isaac and Donovan Mitchell.
Those 2 players have proven to be much better than Fultz. If you're trying to embarrass me for not wanting Tatum then you need to go to a Sixer and/or Laker forum and yank their chains as their GM's must be more embarrassed than I would ever be.
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Post by Admin on May 27, 2022 0:11:54 GMT -5
Also, regarding Fultz, here's the real story. It's true I wanted Fultz when the Celts had the #1 pick. But when Ainge traded the #1 pick for the #3 pick, I wanted Tatum and you wanted Josh Jackson. I would've been wrong if Ainge used the #1 pick on Tatum.
Ainge wanted Jackson! That's what guys like you forget. Ainge couldn't get Jackson to come to Boston for a workout and was told not to draft him. Tatum was Danny's 2nd option. I was pissed that Jackson wouldn't consider the C's and hence my idea of trading down to get two top picks.
So again you're spinning tails that aren't true ... WHY?
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Post by Admin on May 27, 2022 0:14:18 GMT -5
Now I'm done with you and out for the night.
If I find anymore BS on here in the morning you won't be invited back ...
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