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Post by fierce on Nov 26, 2018 22:37:42 GMT -5
Look at the box score Celtic fans. Celts have 3 players with 20 or more points. That's what we need. We don't need 9 players averaging 10-14 points per game. Without Jaylen, Smart was in there for defense, leadership, and making plays for others. Look at the result. smart was the PG. No need to trade. Like I said, time to man up. Is Kyrie the problem? |
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Post by fierce on Nov 26, 2018 22:40:18 GMT -5
All that proves is that Smart's a better leader than Kyrie ... If Kyrie is more comfortable at the 2 then leave him there. He can be the silent leader scoring as the SG.
Many here have been clambering for Smart as a starter ... If this success holds then playing Gordon & Jaylen on team 2 along with Rozier, Morris & Theis could be constructive.
Jaylen can go because if he's on the team then he will eat up minutes. Rozier and Jaylen can be packaged for a big man or another scorer. Look at the result tonight. Celts go over 120 points without Jaylen and Celts have 3 players scoring 20 points or more. |
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Post by fierce on Nov 26, 2018 22:41:16 GMT -5
Just look the minutes of all the starters tonight.
That's what we need.
We don't need 9 starters.
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 26, 2018 22:43:08 GMT -5
smart was the PG. No need to trade. Like I said, time to man up. Is Kyrie the problem? no actually, Admin is right. Is BS. But his adjustment was what i have been saying, take the ball away from kyrie. I called Hayward to bring it down which he did on ocassions, not surprised he trusted Smart on that one since he is our best distributor. |
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 26, 2018 22:43:57 GMT -5
Nough said
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Post by fierce on Nov 26, 2018 22:45:49 GMT -5
Like I said, time to man up. Is Kyrie the problem? no actually, Admin is right. Is BS. But his adjustment was what i have been saying, take the ball away from kyrie. I called Hayward to bring it down which he did on ocassions, not surprised he trusted Smart on that one since he is our best distributor. That's where you lose credibility because in another thread you said Kyrie is the problem, that Kyrie is a diva and he'll be the first one to want out of Boston. Now you're going to say Brad Stevens is/was the problem? Your post on that other thread does not lie. |
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Post by puddin on Nov 26, 2018 22:47:38 GMT -5
Nice win tonight gents.
A 70 win season is still possible!
Sure would luv to see AD in Celtic green.
KI and picks for AD.
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 26, 2018 22:49:59 GMT -5
hey guys, we won tonight...settle down...that being said, I am not super stoked on Kyrie being a kook, Smart being a kook, Al being Al (never a kook, lacking in basic vitality), Brown looking lost, Rozier being a whiner, Tatum trying too hard, BS not realizing that his buddy Hayward needs time...there is more I am sure, but we have time to discuss it later...
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 26, 2018 22:50:37 GMT -5
no actually, Admin is right. Is BS. But his adjustment was what i have been saying, take the ball away from kyrie. I called Hayward to bring it down which he did on ocassions, not surprised he trusted Smart on that one since he is our best distributor. That's where you lose credibility because in another thread you said Kyrie is the problem, that Kyrie is a diva and he'll be the first one to want out of Boston. Now you're going to say Brad Stevens is/was the problem? Your post on that other thread does not lie. i will still say it. He is a diva he wants to run the show. Is the truth. |
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Post by Admin on Nov 26, 2018 22:51:32 GMT -5
Hey, a weak ago you (Fierce) were saying we needed T.J.Warren and today Beal ... What would Brad do with either of them on a night like this when our shooters shoot the way they are supposed to and have the last season? Cut his minutes?
Now you'll say forget the shooter, get a big ... sooner or later you'll win the lottery too if you keep playing.
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 26, 2018 22:53:12 GMT -5
no actually, Admin is right. Is BS. But his adjustment was what i have been saying, take the ball away from kyrie. I called Hayward to bring it down which he did on ocassions, not surprised he trusted Smart on that one since he is our best distributor. That's where you lose credibility because in another thread you said Kyrie is the problem, that Kyrie is a diva and he'll be the first one to want out of Boston. Now you're going to say Brad Stevens is/was the problem? Your post on that other thread does not lie. this is my post before the game. Dont remember if it was this AM or last night: "I am a fan of Brad. Have always been. But I agree with this thread. Is all on him. His rotations are off, his way of making players accountable is off, his reactions after loses are off. Brad cant seem to put Hayward, Horford or Irving on the spot. Anyone else pays for it. Thats wrong. I like him. He is not the best out there but we have a good coach that needs to wake up and deal with the situations or go home." |
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Post by fierce on Nov 26, 2018 22:53:19 GMT -5
That's where you lose credibility because in another thread you said Kyrie is the problem, that Kyrie is a diva and he'll be the first one to want out of Boston. Now you're going to say Brad Stevens is/was the problem? Your post on that other thread does not lie. i will still say it. He is a diva he wants to run the show. Is the truth. That's your opinion. So let's agree to disagree on that one. Moving on. The next step is Ainge upgrading the team using Rozier, Brown, and picks as trade bait. |
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Post by fierce on Nov 26, 2018 22:55:15 GMT -5
Hey, a weak ago you (Fierce) were saying we needed T.J.Warren and today Beal ... What would Brad do with either of them on a night like this when our shooters shoot the way they are supposed to and have the last season? Cut his minutes? Now you'll say forget the shooter, get a big ... sooner or later you'll win the lottery too if you keep playing. dee said the math doesn't work if Ainge were to trade for another tier 1 player. I just used the Beal trade idea as an example for dee. If Ainge wants a player worth 25m it can be done. Right now I still prefer giving up Rozier and Brown for Vucevic or TJ Warren. Vucevic and Warren will address some of the Celts needs. |
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 26, 2018 22:56:20 GMT -5
i will still say it. He is a diva he wants to run the show. Is the truth. That's your opinion. So let's agree to disagree on that one. Moving on. The next step is Ainge upgrading the team using Rozier, Brown, and picks as trade bait. moving on but why for a trade? What a luxury to have those guys on the bench? Is not like both are stars as of right now. They could be eventually |
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Post by puddin on Nov 26, 2018 22:56:47 GMT -5
Any time fierce agrees to disagree... he's just thrown in the towel.
Pud
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Post by fierce on Nov 26, 2018 22:57:05 GMT -5
chris
The as long as Kyrie is with the Celts, you'll always be wrong about him being a diva.
Only way you will be right about Kyrie being a diva is if Kyrie is out of Boston.
And that's something that is highly unlikely to happen.
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Post by fierce on Nov 26, 2018 22:58:21 GMT -5
That's your opinion. So let's agree to disagree on that one. Moving on. The next step is Ainge upgrading the team using Rozier, Brown, and picks as trade bait. moving on but why for a trade? What a luxury to have those guys on the bench? Is not like both are stars as of right now. They could be eventually Because Brown will eat up minutes and Rozier is going to leave in the summer. Would Smart have played 40 minutes if Brown was not absent tonight? You don't see it? It's not about Brown's ability, it's about Brown eating up minutes for guys like Hayward and Smart. |
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 26, 2018 22:58:36 GMT -5
chris The as long as Kyrie is with the Celts, you'll always be wrong about him being a diva. Only way you will be right about Kyrie being a diva is if Kyrie is out of Boston. And that's something that is highly unlikely to happen. We will see on that one. You never thought IT would be ousted from Boston. And now you seem to be loving it. And a lot of us here couldnt wait for IT to be out of town |
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 26, 2018 23:02:25 GMT -5
i will still say it. He is a diva he wants to run the show. Is the truth. That's your opinion. So let's agree to disagree on that one. Moving on. The next step is Ainge upgrading the team using Rozier, Brown, and picks as trade bait. well Fierce you are probably right, but you never know what Ainge will do...next thing you know, Kyrie is out...only way to get AD... |
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 26, 2018 23:02:32 GMT -5
Nice win tonight gents.
A 70 win season is still possible!
Sure would luv to see AD in Celtic green.
KI and picks for AD.
Pud this is the trade. This is it |
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 26, 2018 23:07:02 GMT -5
If I was Ainge I would bring Pierce and KD in to kick these kooks butts up and down the court...great idea by Dee...did not even ever think of it before...heck lets add in McHale...
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Post by Admin on Nov 26, 2018 23:09:10 GMT -5
Hey, a weak ago you (Fierce) were saying we needed T.J.Warren and today Beal ... What would Brad do with either of them on a night like this when our shooters shoot the way they are supposed to and have the last season? Cut his minutes? Now you'll say forget the shooter, get a big ... sooner or later you'll win the lottery too if you keep playing. dee said the math doesn't work if Ainge were to trade for another tier 1 player. I just used the Beal trade idea as an example for dee. If Ainge wants a player worth 25m it can be done. Right now I still prefer giving up Rozier and Brown for Vucevic or TJ Warren. Vucevic and Warren will address some of the Celts needs.
So it goes to show you that trading for a $25MM player is off limits unless you part with Horford to get a Davis or Rozier, Morris & Yabu for Vucevic.
I'm trading Rozier asap as long as Smart stays in the starting lineup with Jabari Bird (he'll be waived) for Bridges & Melton if Vucevic isn't doable.
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 26, 2018 23:21:07 GMT -5
Rozier is nobody, and why the heck would you want Smart (defense) in an offensive league? Love his hustle, but he will go down to an injury soon...
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Post by Admin on Nov 26, 2018 23:34:31 GMT -5
Smart doesn't need to score a lot with the other offensive weapons we have. He just needs to be a real threat to shoot the three and he's been much better lately. He can score inside & out as well as create for himself and others and then defend at the other end. Sooner or later he may become a good (not great) shooter ... we are starting to see signs.
Irving at the SG would be somewhat small like Avery Bradley but so good one-on-one and from the perimeter that it may not matter. Especially with Brown still in tow.
The problem I see, is Brad, when quarried about the starting rotation had his reasoning for tonight (Smart & Baynes bring needed toughness) but also said "we won't be settled on a starting lineup till forever." So this lineup may have been a one and done for now.
Secondly, Danny will prefer wings over bigs so Vucevic is a pipe dream until it happens. Only positive there is with an expiring contract DA won't be stuck with his cap hold unless he likes him more than Greg Monroe and wants to resign him.
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Post by Admin on Nov 26, 2018 23:55:01 GMT -5
Green Envy: What Pelicans fans said, 11/26
By Connor Casey
The Boston Celtics got a much needed road win 124-107 over the New Orleans Pelicans. The win snapped the Pelicans' 5-game home winning streak, and for the first time in a long time the C's put together a complete, 48-minute effort. The offense was humming, and the defense made things difficult, including racking up 14 steals. New Orleans fans were not very pleased with their team's play, so let's take a look at what they had to say!
PREGAMEAD has to play perfect if we want to have any chance at winning this game. Pels give up lots of stuff in the paint. Celtics are bad at getting to the paint. Let’s see who wins stoppable force vs movable object This feels like an important game. Closing out the first 1/4th of the season where, in my opinion, we've underperformed but shown we can beat the best teams and lose to the worst. Trying to snap a losing streak against some very ass teams. I wouldn't say I'm a Pelicans fan. I'm just here to root against the Celtics. Hope that's ok.  (Unnecessary and frankly, unwelcome)
FIRST HALF
Trade for John Wall (Welp, that was quick)
We turn the ball over half the time when we try to cherry pick with AD
God damn this starting in a hole thing every game is really getting annoying
Somebody go ahead and tell me one more time that Jrue Holiday is good at running the offense because “AsSisTs!” There is totally no flow to it. If one of your guys isn’t forcing a bucket then we aren’t scoring. There are no easy buckets with Jrue running the offense. Always been that way.
These dudes even practice? Like wtf is the issue?
Fast pace is good but not when you’re out of control and careless for the sake of going fast...
Why do we get shit on every single 1st quarter?
Tatum is good, but he doesn't seem any better than last year. Looks like he's stagnating. (YOU"RE STAGNATING)
They just keep throwing it away. Not even in the general area of a player. Unless you consider the court the general area.
7 turnovers in 6 minutes... On pace for 56 turnovers
I've seen this game before!
This is complete crap once again. We look like garbage. I have season tickets to a G-League team that plays cleaner than this. There's a lot of game left, so let's hope this first isn't a sign of what's to come.
I'm starting to get to a Joel Meyers level of frustration
This team disgusts me right now. If they don't turn it around by the end of Q1 I'm going to go read a book. Hope they're proud of themselves!
Lmao Jrue setting league records tonight baby.
Jrue is spoon feeding possessions to the celtics....
Every year it’s the same thing. If the fast pace isn’t naturally forming then we just jack up contested three and try to throw the ball 80 feet on full court passes to inflate those numbers.
This wouldn’t be a problem is the half court was more developed. Since Gentry came in it’s been a huge problem. We can’t slow the game down without just going into a Jrue-AD pick and roll or an iso.
Randle always brings it
Undisciplined offense. They fall apart without someone competent at the point Lmao. At least run something different or take Jrue off the ball. Or hell, maybe try that three big lineup more?
Why does Gentry leave AD in for the whole quarter when he’s not playing well. Rather take him out a bit earlier and rest up and play a bigger part of the 2nd.
This is what happens when you play a team that actually tries defensively
I love Jrue but I wouldnt mind trading him for someone more reliable.
Anyone got any positive notes?
Against a team like Boston, who has a lot of problems but none of them are due to effort or fundamentals, our flaws stand out so violently. This is hard to watch
Shots won’t always fall for us. That’s fine. But where is our friggin' defense?!
You know it’s bad when the energy play of the game for the pels broadcast is an opposition play
I swear Miller only makes contested 3s and misses every wide open one
How is it this close honestly. If we pull this out of our ass somehow I’ll be shocked
Effort and fundamentals as another poster said. This team has always lacked it and hiring Gentry was foolish.
I’m not from Nola, but I’m done watching this team. You local fans should voice your displeasure. This is unacceptable.
No offensive penetration, not much defense
Randle would be an all star if we were in the eastern conference.
SECOND HALFWe wanna show off our 20% 3pt shooting. No time for defense. Do you have time to talk about our Lord and Savior Nikola Mirotic? Serious question, do you think Gentry is the problem? Where would we be without Mirotic man...he needs appreciation Is that Solomon Hill or Allen Iverson? (Good lord) Win or lose this game, something needs to change. Well we got it to 9 so Im staying awake for the 2nd half, ready to be disappointed once again I really wish ownership didn’t have a win now mentality and gave management a real shot at building a team around AD. So much young talent in the league helping their teams win games. We have none of that. Over passing. Celtics see it. They’re jumping everything. AD needs to force the issue himself inside That’s it I’m done. (Aww come on, it was just starting to get fun!) Pels are trying to win only on talent against one of the most talented teams in the league. This is just stupid. Haha Joel is throwing some serious praise at Brad Stevens, and I can only hear the not-so-subtle shade being thrown at Gentry...maybe it's just me.. Im out boys, another pathetic performance Its not gonna be long until the only team in the west below us is the suns Now I have to watch this shit on mute because I refuse to listen to the Celtics announcers and my Pels stream died Why is Solomon Hill playing Tatum boomed E'twuan There is no way AD is here after the trade deadline. Smart for both sides to trade him now before he refuses the supermax and yall miss the playoffs. Gentry has always been trash. Didnt know how to draw plays for Boogie and AD and everyone thinks hes been phenominal ever since the playoffs. Where was he before that? Why is AD giving the ball up to Tim Frazier when he’s got his guy 1 on 1 Listen, I never want to lose a game. I truly don't. But this team needs a wakeup call and if we somehow pull this one out then when will this shit stop??? Does this team know that points and possessions are equally as important in the first quarter as the 4th quarter? www.celticslife.com/2018/11/green-envy-what-pelicans-fans-said-1126.html |
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