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Post by kyceltic on Nov 12, 2018 13:14:37 GMT -5
I proposed a starting lineup of KI, Rozier, Morris, Tatum and Horford.....at least until Hayward gets his sea legs. I'd like to know what his shooting % is in the first quarter of games. I'll bet it's abysmal. Morris, right now, is our most consistent player, and needs the minutes. We need to start games better. Brown needs to come off the bench right now, he is not helping our starting team. Horrible game That is exactly who I would start!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 14:16:44 GMT -5
I proposed a starting lineup of KI, Rozier, Morris, Tatum and Horford.....at least until Hayward gets his sea legs. I'd like to know what his shooting % is in the first quarter of games. I'll bet it's abysmal. Morris, right now, is our most consistent player, and needs the minutes. We need to start games better. Brown needs to come off the bench right now, he is not helping our starting team. Horrible game Yes for now that is the logical choice.. With all the ideas floating around you picked the one that makes the most sense. Trust me however Irving is not a smart player and needs to go before he has another injury which will happen. 100% on that. Just one issue. Stevens and Hayward . The reason we have this problem is we spent 30 plus mil on a friendship. Not that I dislike Hayward he was not what we needed. You all have a nice Thanksgiving and Christmas. You have to be sociably to play the social media game. That i'm not capable of at the moment.
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 12, 2018 14:29:33 GMT -5
I proposed a starting lineup of KI, Rozier, Morris, Tatum and Horford.....at least until Hayward gets his sea legs. I'd like to know what his shooting % is in the first quarter of games. I'll bet it's abysmal. Morris, right now, is our most consistent player, and needs the minutes. We need to start games better. Brown needs to come off the bench right now, he is not helping our starting team. Horrible game Yes for now that is the logical choice.. With all the ideas floating around you picked the one that makes the most sense. Trust me however Irving is not a smart player and needs to go before he has another injury which will happen. 100% on that. Just one issue. Stevens and Hayward . The reason we have this problem is we spent 30 plus mil on a friendship. Not that I dislike Hayward he was not what we needed. You all have a nice Thanksgiving and Christmas. You have to be sociably to play the social media game. That i'm not capable of at the moment. 30 mil on a friendship haaa that was funny. Hayward is good. I think irving is screwing everything up regarding the way this celtics play and suppose to play. I must admit though that we never knew what we had with tatum. Thats why we incurred in the 30mil friendship.
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 12, 2018 16:48:06 GMT -5
Meanwhile, last year at this time, we had just won our 12th game in a row!!
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Post by cole on Nov 12, 2018 18:12:25 GMT -5
Also, it's been a tough stretch to start. I'm not convinced Our Stars led the way this year in terms of coming in Peak condition
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 12, 2018 18:21:14 GMT -5
Yes for now that is the logical choice.. With all the ideas floating around you picked the one that makes the most sense. Trust me however Irving is not a smart player and needs to go before he has another injury which will happen. 100% on that. Just one issue. Stevens and Hayward . The reason we have this problem is we spent 30 plus mil on a friendship. Not that I dislike Hayward he was not what we needed. You all have a nice Thanksgiving and Christmas. You have to be sociably to play the social media game. That i'm not capable of at the moment. 30 mil on a friendship haaa that was funny. Hayward is good. I think irving is screwing everything up regarding the way this celtics play and suppose to play. I must admit though that we never knew what we had with tatum. Thats why we incurred in the 30mil friendship. wow...dee agreeing with Hedley...and chrisjey is right, we did not know what we had in Tatum when we signed Hayward...don't know how it plays out, but there is a logjam there...
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 12, 2018 18:28:46 GMT -5
Well, I don't think any of us are that stoked on posting about this team right now either...
I think Hayward needs to sit his butt down and slowly develop his ankle...we have the luxury to do this, but Brad chooses not to...
Starting to think Irving is not so bright either...
Trade Irving and Smart for Davis...
cant believe you came up with this trade idea. Thought you had Irving pretty high but i love the trade. Tired of KI running around like a 🐔 with head chopped. lol, I believe you meant that you cant believe I actually came around to this idea...it has been floated for a while...yeah, I love Kyrie, but next year he is going to cost a fortune...I love his loose casual style but it sometimes annoys me as well...sorta like Manny not knowing if it was spring training or the world series...
and I am starting to buy into Fierces idea that we have too many good players and not enough superstars...oops, now I am back to keeping Kyrie and trading the kitchen sink for Davis...some combo of Horford, Hayward, Brown, Smart, Rozier...sorry Al...
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Post by petey62 on Nov 12, 2018 19:26:06 GMT -5
I think it's admirable what BS is doing in committing to bringing Hayward along. I disagree in his approach though. There is no doubt that Hayward should be brought along slowly but it should be off the bench. There is no doubt that Morris should be in the starting lineup. He is the most consistent Celtics player right now.
I think it's a luxury to have as many very good players as we have where, if they play to their potential, we should contend for a championship. Obviously, we could use a superstar but, in lieu of that, having a stable of very good players should be sufficient - if they play well together.
The players we have are not playing well. It's tough to ease guys back into the rotation (KI and GH) without risking losing some chemistry. However, they'll figure it out. If every player consistently played much better, we would be unstoppable.
Bottom line, accept your role and play your best in that role, everybody.
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 19:38:23 GMT -5
Meanwhile, last year at this time, we had just won our 12th game in a row!! That's why I don't believe that this team needs more time. The only difference this season and last season is Hayward. So how come the Celts were very good last season when Hayward was out and they're very bad now with Hayward returning? IMO, this team doesn't have the right mix. I mean come on, Hayward playing 31 minutes and only 7 shot attempts? Same with Brown, against Portland, he played 29 minutes and only 7 shot attempts. Ainge has to choose, Brown or Hayward?
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 12, 2018 19:39:37 GMT -5
Kyrie is hinting that he wants Carmelo. This is getting too shady for me. Lets go back to the basics of basketball. Cant handle that, go to NY.
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 19:46:30 GMT -5
Kyrie is hinting that he wants Carmelo. This is getting too shady for me. Lets go back to the basics of basketball. Cant handle that, go to NY. Actually he didn't specifically mention Carmelo. Jason Terry and Joe Johnson are also available. I don't think the Celts need any of those vets. Ainge just needs to make a trade to open up more minutes and give more shot attempts for players like Hayward. There's nothing wrong with having a bench composed of Smart, Baynes, Theis, and Ojeleye. That's why I want Rozier and Brown for TJ Warren and the Suns 2019 pick, unprotected. Adding a guy like Warren will help the Celts on offense. TJ Warren gets you buckets. And Warren doesn't care if he starts or not.
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 12, 2018 19:59:35 GMT -5
Kyrie is hinting that he wants Carmelo. This is getting too shady for me. Lets go back to the basics of basketball. Cant handle that, go to NY. Actually he didn't specifically mention Carmelo. Jason Terry and Joe Johnson are also available. I don't think the Celts need any of those vets. Ainge just needs to make a trade to open up more minutes and give more shot attempts for players like Hayward. There's nothing wrong with having a bench composed of Smart, Baynes, Theis, and Ojeleye. That's why I want Rozier and Brown for TJ Warren and the Suns 2019 pick, unprotected. Adding a guy like Warren will help the Celts on offense. TJ Warren gets you buckets. And Warren doesn't care if he starts or not. ok fierce. Really? You think he was talking terry who has like 30 years in the league or johnson who is done? Man you really do it on purpose
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Post by petey62 on Nov 12, 2018 20:01:50 GMT -5
I'd send Rozier to Cleveland for the Cavs #1 pick.
Fierce, does TJ Warren play any defense? That sounds like a decent trade idea but would be reluctant to trade two young, developing offensive talents and very solid defenders for a guy who makes buckets for PHX.
TJ Warren seems like a fine player but he's getting buckets for PHX and that is my concern.
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 20:39:29 GMT -5
Actually he didn't specifically mention Carmelo. Jason Terry and Joe Johnson are also available. I don't think the Celts need any of those vets. Ainge just needs to make a trade to open up more minutes and give more shot attempts for players like Hayward. There's nothing wrong with having a bench composed of Smart, Baynes, Theis, and Ojeleye. That's why I want Rozier and Brown for TJ Warren and the Suns 2019 pick, unprotected. Adding a guy like Warren will help the Celts on offense. TJ Warren gets you buckets. And Warren doesn't care if he starts or not. ok fierce. Really? You think he was talking terry who has like 30 years in the league or johnson who is done? Man you really do it on purpose Here's the report. bleacherreport.com/articles/2805627-kyrie-irving-says-celtics-need-an-nba-veteran-amid-carmelo-anthony-rumorsThe Celtics have 15 players with guaranteed contracts on their roster, so odds are they won't add a veteran. If they do, however, names like Jason Terry, Joe Johnson or perhaps even Carmelo Anthony could surface.
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 20:44:15 GMT -5
I'd send Rozier to Cleveland for the Cavs #1 pick. Fierce, does TJ Warren play any defense? That sounds like a decent trade idea but would be reluctant to trade two young, developing offensive talents and very solid defenders for a guy who makes buckets for PHX. TJ Warren seems like a fine player but he's getting buckets for PHX and that is my concern. Warren is known for offense. But I don't really think it matters if he's good defensively or not because right now what the Celts need is offense. Besides, I don't think Warren will be on the court in crunch time. Celts have Morris and Smart for that. If Warren plays decent defense then that's good enough. The catch is really the 2019 Suns pick. If the Celts can get that then they'll be in the hunt for RJ Barrett or Cam Reddish.
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 20:48:45 GMT -5
Time is running out guys.
Celts can't have that "see you in April" mentality because it will cost the Celts home court advantage.
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 12, 2018 20:58:28 GMT -5
Meanwhile, last year at this time, we had just won our 12th game in a row!! That's why I don't believe that this team needs more time. The only difference this season and last season is Hayward. So how come the Celts were very good last season when Hayward was out and they're very bad now with Hayward returning? IMO, this team doesn't have the right mix. I mean come on, Hayward playing 31 minutes and only 7 shot attempts? Same with Brown, against Portland, he played 29 minutes and only 7 shot attempts. Ainge has to choose, Brown or Hayward? maybe we should start the guys who started during that streak!! Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Horford, and Baynes!!
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 21:08:25 GMT -5
That's why I don't believe that this team needs more time. The only difference this season and last season is Hayward. So how come the Celts were very good last season when Hayward was out and they're very bad now with Hayward returning? IMO, this team doesn't have the right mix. I mean come on, Hayward playing 31 minutes and only 7 shot attempts? Same with Brown, against Portland, he played 29 minutes and only 7 shot attempts. Ainge has to choose, Brown or Hayward? maybe we should start the guys who started during that streak!! Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Horford, and Baynes!! That will temporarily fix the problem, but in the end a choice has to be made, it's Hayward or Brown. And we all know Hayward is Brad's boy and the Celts just gave him 32m per year. What the Celts need now is a solution that not only puts the Celts on the winning track, but also closer to GSW. Being a team like the Toronto Raptors is a waste of time. Always a great regular season but always ends up disappointing in the playoffs. Celts need to be better than that.
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 21:11:10 GMT -5
The bar must be set high.
If it's just lineup changes than that's equal to rearranging the chairs.
Celts need to make a move that will upgrade the roster.
Just like what Toronto did when they swapped DeRozan for Kawhi and Philly for getting Jimmy Butler.
Right now the Celts are just 3rd in the Atlantic. We're not even talking eastern conference here.
Right now Celts have a long way to go.
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 12, 2018 21:11:48 GMT -5
fierce common. You know jason terry nor joe johnson have anything to look for in the NBA. They are done. You could mention crawford or carmelo but to really believe any of the other two is a very innocent thought.
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 12, 2018 21:12:58 GMT -5
maybe we should start the guys who started during that streak!! Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Horford, and Baynes!! That will temporarily fix the problem, but in the end a choice has to be made, it's Hayward or Brown. And we all know Hayward is Brad's boy and the Celts just gave him 32m per year. What the Celts need now is a solution that not only puts the Celts on the winning track, but also closer to GSW. Being a team like the Toronto Raptors is a waste of time. Always a great regular season but always ends up disappointing in the playoffs. Celts need to be better than that. what happens if you trade Brown, and Hayward never gets back to where he was before the injury?
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 12, 2018 21:14:00 GMT -5
The bar must be set high. If it's just lineup changes than that's equal to rearranging the chairs. Celts need to make a move that will upgrade the roster. Just like what Toronto did when they swapped DeRozan for Kawhi and Philly for getting Jimmy Butler. Right now the Celts are just 3rd in the Atlantic. We're not even talking eastern conference here. Right now Celts have a long way to go. i am beginning to think you are just trolling around this board. You solve everything with a trade all the time. Then celtics do well without trades and poof you disappear. You do share a very suspicious behavior from that part
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 21:34:52 GMT -5
The bar must be set high. If it's just lineup changes than that's equal to rearranging the chairs. Celts need to make a move that will upgrade the roster. Just like what Toronto did when they swapped DeRozan for Kawhi and Philly for getting Jimmy Butler. Right now the Celts are just 3rd in the Atlantic. We're not even talking eastern conference here. Right now Celts have a long way to go. i am beginning to think you are just trolling around this board. You solve everything with a trade all the time. Then celtics do well without trades and poof you disappear. You do share a very suspicious behavior from that part Celts accumulated assets over the years. Time to cash in. If you can't see that then you're in denial. You should see the Celtic games. League Pass is a bit expensive, I know. But don't look at the stats or the Celtic record, look at how they're playing this season. Did you hear me make trade proposal last season when Hayward was out? Celts were doing fine last year. What changed this year? Answer: Hayward It's not like this team was built this summer. This is basically the same team from last season.
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 21:45:42 GMT -5
I'm making trade proposals to solve a problem. That's not trolling.
It's another story if the Celts are doing fine, #1 or #2 in the east, and I'm making trade proposals. That's trolling!
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Post by fierce on Nov 12, 2018 21:56:49 GMT -5
Here's one more trade proposal that will be an upgrade.
Vucevic and Orlando 2019 pick for Rozier, Brown, and Yabu.
Vucevic will give the Celts a presence inside. That's something the Celts lack right now. Horford's just not getting it done anymore.
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