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Post by sfbosfan on Mar 28, 2018 12:34:47 GMT -5
Not exactly but ill meet ya half way Rozier was hotter than a firecracker he deserves the most credit. Remember he was the one you didn't like. Watch those children please. Cali is an accident waiting to happen well I beg to differ...Cali is the leading edge of humanity...and I say that with a all seriousness...California is so ahead of the rest of the United States that it is embarrassing...everything starts here...and everything grows from here...this is truly the only real melting pot in the US...the east is stagnant, nothing changes there...you can talk Sweden or some other progressive country, but California is the leader of the Americas...flat out like a lizard drinking... Again, I apologize for posting on this sports forum about politics. First, I am not a Trump lover and one of the main reasons is his lack of Military service. I had 2 other choices for President and today after a year + I don’t like his tweeting & shooting from the hip that could alienate our allies and enemies even more. I repeat, I like a President who has done Military service and his feeling that his attendance at a Military prep school was the same is pure BS. Like Dubya, who at least was in the Reserves, their political contacts kept them out of active duty. I am not going to go into all the other things I dislike about Trump but the four things I like most are his business acumen, his strong desire to address annihilating ISIS, resolving the illegal alien issues and implementing a health plan that pleases all. But when it came down to 2 choices only, Hillary and Trump, my decision was easy. It is shameful and harmful the extreme polarization in our country today. We are divided over so many things, race, privacy issues, our national security, foreign, economic, social policies and a lot of other things too. Anyway, the comment was made about California and nobody commented on it so I wished or hoped to clear something up about the state’s status but most had negative responses to my, yup, soap box stance indeed. Only Cole made a response and I agree with it. Cole: "Of course the economy is growing...look at the deficits we're running every year and the prime rate practically zero. We've had the choke on since the 90's. The last time the economy was healthy was briefly during the .com boom in the 90's. Currently all of our politicians are sending us off the edge...dems and repubs alike. All this spending is just borrowing more and more from china. Both sides are screwing us.” More about the Golden State: California has more immigrants than any other state & California is home to more than two million undocumented immigrants. Gov. Jerry Brown signed landmark "sanctuary state" legislation Thursday, vastly limiting who state and local law enforcement agencies can hold, question and transfer at the request of federal immigration authorities. We are known as the sanctuary state !!! Gov. Jerry Brown of California is entering his final year in public life riding high in opinion polls and generally praised by government officials.. However, Brown's and the state Democrats’ legacy is crime and homelessness. California has more immigrants than any other state & California is home to more than two million undocumented immigrants. 34% of the nation’s welfare recipients live in California. Yup, an awful lot of voters getting freebies helping to keep it an 80% Democratic state. Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf tipped off immigrants about ICE raid and isn’t sorry she did and is unapologetic. On Tuesday night, just after completing a roundup of more than 150 suspected undocumented immigrants, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said it could have arrested more but for the actions of one person: Mayor Libby Schaaf of Oakland, Calif. And California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom, who’s running for governor, commended Schaaf’s public warning, telling SFGate: “We can and must protect immigrant families from Donald Trump’s mass deportations. I want to thank Mayor Schaaf for her courage and hope more local leaders will follow her lead.” Yup, forget the legal citizens who now face robbery, drugs, assaults, rapes murders etc and all the pleasant things that evil thugs do. In addition to Orange County, which had a homeless population of about 4,792, Los Angeles, San Jose, San Francisco and San Diego had the highest populations of homeless individuals, according to a count taken on a single night in January 2017. San Francisco Is A Literal S***hole, Public Defecation Map Reveals There is an ongoing debate currently going on in the country about what locations can be classified as shitholes. The debate sprung from a report that Donald Trump referred to some third world countries as “shitholes” in a meeting with lawmakers last week. While the debate might rage on as to what constitutes a “shithole” of a country, one thing is not up for debate: the American city of San Francisco is a shithole. Gov. Jerry Brown of California is entering his final year in public life riding high in opinion polls and generally praised by government officials.. Brown and the state Democrats’ legacy is crime and homelessness.
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Post by Admin on Mar 28, 2018 16:30:23 GMT -5
I can't speak on the state of CA though it's my understanding that Gov Brown has kept it from bankruptcy since Gov Arnold left it in financial distress.
On #45 ... A long time ago I witnessed/experienced the Donald's formula for success. I owned stock in his NJ casino that couldn't seem to make a profit (hmmm) and was forced to file for Chpt7 when Donald refused to work with the banks & bondholders controlling what was left of the equity. Seems Donald decided to screw all the bankers, bondholders as well as us second class stockholders in favor of putting the casino into bankruptcy and public auction where he succeeded in outbidding others since he held the majority of bonds.
It's speculated that this loss has been responsible for his "zero tax status for 20yrs" while enabling him to rebuild and/or sell said casino as the biz climate improved. This is the main reason he goes abroad for financing as little or no American bankers will now do business with him knowing how he dealt with that potential "reorganization."
His tactics also include non-payment for services rendered forcing the lossee to file claims for breach of contract but again he drags the small to medium contractor out as long as possible until he is unable to keep up with legal costs and goes away or settles for pennies on the $ ... as he proudly says, paraphrased, "I have no problem taking advantage of our tax laws to my advantage." Those are the techniques you refer to as a successful businessman?
I'm not one that completely buys into the "free market" when it comes to establishing competition and good/affordable products. So I do agree to some extent that jobs have left our shores for more profitable real estate, wherever in the world that might be. But to blame other countries for our lower standard or living/unemployment is a fallacy. Nobody forced U.S. corporations to pursue the cheapest labor and move their factories and trade secrets to those counties ... they did so in the pursuit of profits at the cost of patriotism. Their treason is the direct result of the loss of high paying jobs and the added burden of safety nets (once a benefit of the jobs lost) thrust upon the federal and state governments ... not Obama or any POTUS preceding him. Blame the mega corps of the S&P 500 for leaving and our Congress for not penalizing them for doing so ... they even want to allow them to repatriate their foreign profits at lower or no tax rate at all. Why wouldn't they go?
This govt has been subsidizing U.S. Corps who've abandoned their responsibility to their employees and customers for decades now accounting for the massive increase in food stamps, unemployment, housing, etc. We wouldn't have a need for these programs to the extent we do had we taxed our own corps for imports rather than other countries' companies exporting here. Sure POTUS is right, we got and gave bad deals on behalf of the American public but the reps responsible were on the take from lobbyists representing our own companies or foreign interests. Follow the $ !!!
When all is said and done, I won't be surprised to find that Donald and family have been no better than the scourge in the DC swamp that he vowed to clean up with all the benefits they may have gotten from foreign/domestic interests putting themselves ahead of the American citizenry ... call it treason, obstruction of justice, perjury, money laundering or whatever you like but for me his stripes have not changed. He's still the same unethical crook he was back in the 70/80's and nothing's changed.
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Post by billge on Jun 5, 2018 21:44:41 GMT -5
Dude, I never thought we could become friends so quickly. Hand over heart, he should be squatting to cover his painful heals. Kids in cages, what a pig. H0ow did Hitler rise ? By having people with no values adopt his. Will be interesting to see if any gutless right wingers stand up. America is as falible and stupid as Venezuela.
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Post by billge on Jun 5, 2018 21:48:12 GMT -5
Sessions may not be as stupid as he sounds, but he dines at the same trough as the PIG
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Post by puddin on Jun 5, 2018 22:32:39 GMT -5
Last time we tried to mix politics and sports (PeeWee's idea)... the results were not pretty at all. There needs to be a special section for such discussions.... away from Celtic basketball discussions.
You are playing with nitroglycerin, fellas.... and it likely will not end well.
Pud
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Post by elvissurfs on Jun 5, 2018 22:33:30 GMT -5
Thank you, billge......tired of acting like wee wees in a vacuum...not that we are going to change much here, or anywhere for that matter...but some folks I do believe are just simply unaware because their source of information is just from fox/faux news...it is unbelievable...
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Post by puddin on Jun 6, 2018 8:58:04 GMT -5
Thank you, billge...now I will probably be banned...better to act like wee wees in a vacuum... eff off pudWell played, Big E!
Dunno if my heart can stand effing...
..at my age.
Pud (AKA Limp Noodle)
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Post by elvissurfs on Jun 6, 2018 9:17:17 GMT -5
Well played, Big E!
Dunno if my heart can stand effing...
..at my age.
Pud (AKA Limp Noodle)
so how does a post I edited 24 minutes ago get quoted by you 17 minutes ago?
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Post by puddin on Jun 6, 2018 11:29:31 GMT -5
Well played, Big E!
Dunno if my heart can stand effing...
..at my age.
Pud (AKA Limp Noodle)
so how does a post I edited 24 minutes ago get quoted by you 17 minutes ago? I took my time responding, amigo.
I was trying my darndest to figure out how to "eff" myself.
At my age, everything takes time.
Pud
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 12:08:47 GMT -5
Yeah, we are all supposed to ignore that this is going on (gawd forbid politics appear here), and just shoot the bull over the Celts forthcoming season, numerous months from now... So the vast majority of the Philadelphia Eagles football team, despite not one single player ever taking a knee (a sign of respect and concern, not disrespect) during the entire football season decide not to accept the invite to the White House...and instead of the ass living there take notice, he blabs some dishonest rhetoric to his minions...unfrickinbelievable...coming from our country, our White House, our Presidency!Meanwhile we have an orangutan, thrice divorced and thrice bankrupt, and a bonafide draftdodger talking about patriotism...are you kidding me? In a basketball related vein, both Curry and LeBron have stated that they would not attend a White House ceremony... This individual (I cannot call him a man) has called all Mexicans rapists and murderers, supported the KKK, has mocked the handicapped and LBGT's, the handicapped, John McCain for Christ's sake...yeah let's talk next season's trades...whatever... Wow you really show your ignorance and hateful attitude with this post. Your comments are so slanted and so far from the truth they border on delusional. Your comments show you to be more biased and hateful than the man you are slandering! P.S. I am NOT a Trump supporter either.
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Post by billge on Jun 6, 2018 13:33:57 GMT -5
Ignorant, hateful, biased and slandering, pretty much describes Donald Trump. Any man who would have his henchman separate small children from their families, deflect blame and let it all continue is an abhorrent PIG.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 6:58:27 GMT -5
Ignorant, hateful, biased and slandering, pretty much describes Donald Trump. Any man who would have his henchman separate small children from their families, deflect blame and let it all continue is an abhorrent PIG. Yeah again you should probably get your facts straight. The pics of kids in cages, separated from their parents.....taken while Obama was President. Again I am not a Trump guy at all but the constant barrage of slander and misinformation, from all sides, is what is tearing the Country apart. I come here to escape the mainstream media and talk Celtics not be subjected to more of the bullshit.
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Post by billge on Jun 11, 2018 13:09:37 GMT -5
Trump already planning skip out of his meeting with the other PIG early which is always a sign of him chickening out, just like Canada. Probably will profess that an urgent Kardashian meeting came up as an excuse.
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Post by billge on Jun 11, 2018 13:19:15 GMT -5
Rumor has it he wants to trade Washington/Oregon or even California to North Korea for their nuclear disarmament. He wanted to give them British Columbia but his advisors had to tell him that it didn't belong to him.
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Post by billge on Jun 11, 2018 14:52:50 GMT -5
Going to leave Singapore early too. Closer a meeting gets, more chicken he gets. Wants to run home and hide in his bed in White House, or golf course at Mar A Lago. Also tears up all paperd he has to read or attempt to read so his aides can crawl around on the floor, pick up the pieces, and tape them together. Nice way to treat your people What a PIG !
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Post by billge on Jun 11, 2018 15:09:11 GMT -5
Said he might stay for several days of negotiations, and now it will be a very expensive photo op and then both Kim and Dumpy will create their own narratives to cover their own humongous asses.
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Post by croc on Jun 11, 2018 15:09:59 GMT -5
Politics and a moron poster with an axe to grind have ruined the Patriots board. We don't need politics here.
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Post by billge on Jun 11, 2018 15:14:01 GMT -5
Well if you are the moron, just stop posting . Problem solved !
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Post by croc on Jun 11, 2018 15:45:10 GMT -5
Moron posters don't stop.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 8:50:49 GMT -5
Now that the Singapore summit was a historic success, I'll bet the two hateful, fake news spreading posters above feel like total uneducated MORONS! LOL
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Post by puddin on Jun 12, 2018 9:17:31 GMT -5
Ignorant, hateful, biased and slandering, pretty much describes Donald Trump. Any man who would have his henchman separate small children from their families, deflect blame and let it all continue is an abhorrent PIG. Yeah again you should probably get your facts straight. The pics of kids in cages, separated from their parents.....taken while Obama was President. Again I am not a Trump guy at all but the constant barrage of slander and misinformation, from all sides, is what is tearing the Country apart. I come here to escape the mainstream media and talk Celtics not be subjected to more of the bullshit.Agreed!!
So stop with the politics already, amigo.
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 12, 2018 10:02:11 GMT -5
When one comes in to defend Trump, that person can no longer take the "high horse" approach of "this isnt the forum for politics." If you hate this subject being here, and do not wish for any political discussion on this forum - then you probably shouldnt engage in a political debate. Otherwise it comes across as one trying to get the last word in, and then immediately end the conversation.
Nobody is going to change anyone's opinion here. But I disagree that this thread will ruin the forum. If you do not wish to engage in politics, there are plenty of other threads to participate in. You can simply ignore it.
Some people look for companionship/friendship/bonding here. And if I felt myself bonding with another poster, I would want to inquire about their political position before continuing down that road. It's a very effective screen to see if two people share values. I have no qualms with this being here and would even go as far as to say that it actually helps the forum.
After all, this is a place for opinionated people to debate.
All that being said, in Admin I trust. THis is a wonderfully run forum.
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Post by puddin on Jun 12, 2018 15:43:10 GMT -5
When one comes in to defend Trump, that person can no longer take the "high horse" approach of "this isnt the forum for politics." If you hate this subject being here, and do not wish for any political discussion on this forum - then you probably shouldnt engage in a political debate. Otherwise it comes across as one trying to get the last word in, and then immediately end the conversation. Nobody is going to change anyone's opinion here. But I disagree that this thread will ruin the forum. If you do not wish to engage in politics, there are plenty of other threads to participate in. You can simply ignore it. Some people look for companionship/friendship/bonding here. And if I felt myself bonding with another poster, I would want to inquire about their political position before continuing down that road. It's a very effective screen to see if two people share values. I have no qualms with this being here and would even go as far as to say that it actually helps the forum. After all, this is a place for opinionated people to debate. All that being said, in Admin I trust. THis is a wonderfully run forum. No political debate so far.
These exchanges serve little more than a pretext to sh!t on one another.
That doesn't qualify as debate.
If you desire to know another poster's political views before becoming best buds.... by all means, try PM.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 8:59:59 GMT -5
Sometimes its difficult to turn a blind eye to obvious erroneous statements no matter what side of the aisle your on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 13:30:25 GMT -5
We should just delete this thread. It does not belong on the Celtics basketball forum.
Perhaps the participants should petition admin to create a politics sub forum.
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