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Post by hedleylamarr on Dec 28, 2023 11:48:01 GMT -5
The Celtics could more realistically build an offer for someone near the salary level of San Antonio’s Cedi Osman ($6.7 million) or Houston’s Jae’Sean Tate ($6.5 million), but any contract much bigger than that would present serious salary-matching issues. Boston could still decide to trade one of its rotation players for the right acquisition but would need to consider the future as well as the present in any deal. The team’s payroll is set to grow out of control in the coming years even if Stevens holds onto the current core. And the new collective bargaining agreement will punish the most expensive teams. – via Jay King @ The Athletic Trade, Cedi Osman, Jae'Sean Tate, Boston Celtics, Houston Rockets, San Antonio Spurs
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Post by hedleylamarr on Dec 28, 2023 11:56:00 GMT -5
League sources say Boston is among the teams that is monitoring Utah’s Kelly Olynyk in advance of a potential trade pursuit. Olynyk, as covered here before my Showcase trip, is one of a number of Jazz veterans known to be available and the Celtics obviously know him well. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com Top Rumors, Trade, Kelly Olynyk, Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz
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Post by hedleylamarr on Dec 28, 2023 11:58:22 GMT -5
Last season your interactions with the media were sometimes tense. You’re a coach at the core, and if there was an option to stop speaking to us, I bet you’d take it. But you’ve seemed more at ease this year. What shifted? Joe Mazzulla: I think it came down to allowing myself to be emotionally vulnerable to the public. That was the hardest adjustment. It’s funny, I spent the first 17 years of my life being insecure and caring what people thought. Then post-college you spend time re-identifying yourself, being secure, and not being in the public eye, to the point where it’s like, ‘This is who I am. This is Joe Mazzulla. I don’t care what anybody says.’ Then overnight you go to being in the limelight, having to care what people think about you, having to understand how people view you. And that’s really hard, because I spent so much time working on not worrying about that. Last year I wasn’t ready to be emotionally vulnerable and my true self in the public eye. – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics
Joe Mazzulla: And I never want to be a distraction to the players and organization. So I’m learning how to be emotionally open. I’m going to argue with you from time to time. It doesn’t mean I don’t like you or agree with what you’re saying. And, jokingly, I can’t understand why people give two [expletives] about me. I just don’t understand that. But they don’t care about me; they care about the role of the head coach of the Boston Celtics. So once I realized that I was like, ‘OK.’ – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics
Obviously things are good right now, but what’s something about this season that concerns you? Joe Mazzulla: I don’t have any concerns. None? JM: Zero. Is that just how you approach coaching? Or did you have concerns last year and this is different? JM: I had concerns last year. Honestly, the concern was, ‘What if we don’t win this game today? What if we lose three of four?’ I had those concerns, understanding how you’re going to navigate that. But because of what we talked about earlier, the surrender to the result, I don’t have any concerns. Whatever we go through, we have to go through, however long that takes. I would regret more not being tested and going into a playoffs with zero adversity than being battle-tested and having an understanding of what we look like when things don’t go our way. – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics
You’ve seemed to make a point of boosting up Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown in press conferences after relatively quiet statistical games. What is behind that? Joe Mazzulla: It’s a little bit of changing the narrative of what value is and what success looks like. For such a long time in the NBA, value is how many shots did you get and how many points did you score? Very few times do you have guys like Jaylen and Jayson welcome two other superstars [in Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis] and then empower Derrick [White], who should be an All-Star. So what I really want to do is change the lens of what value and success look like. I think they’re way more valuable than they get credit for, because of their ability to be great teammates. And that’s not talked about or clicked on enough. The fact that one of those two guys could take 8-10 shots and keep playing hard on defense, to me that’s just as valuable as giving them the ball every time and scoring 40. – via Boston Globe Joe Mazzulla, Derrick White, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Jrue Holiday, Kristaps Porzingis, Boston Celtics
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Post by kyceltic on Dec 28, 2023 12:20:38 GMT -5
Last season your interactions with the media were sometimes tense. You’re a coach at the core, and if there was an option to stop speaking to us, I bet you’d take it. But you’ve seemed more at ease this year. What shifted? Joe Mazzulla: I think it came down to allowing myself to be emotionally vulnerable to the public. That was the hardest adjustment. It’s funny, I spent the first 17 years of my life being insecure and caring what people thought. Then post-college you spend time re-identifying yourself, being secure, and not being in the public eye, to the point where it’s like, ‘This is who I am. This is Joe Mazzulla. I don’t care what anybody says.’ Then overnight you go to being in the limelight, having to care what people think about you, having to understand how people view you. And that’s really hard, because I spent so much time working on not worrying about that. Last year I wasn’t ready to be emotionally vulnerable and my true self in the public eye. – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics Joe Mazzulla: And I never want to be a distraction to the players and organization. So I’m learning how to be emotionally open. I’m going to argue with you from time to time. It doesn’t mean I don’t like you or agree with what you’re saying. And, jokingly, I can’t understand why people give two [expletives] about me. I just don’t understand that. But they don’t care about me; they care about the role of the head coach of the Boston Celtics. So once I realized that I was like, ‘OK.’ – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics Obviously things are good right now, but what’s something about this season that concerns you? Joe Mazzulla: I don’t have any concerns. None? JM: Zero. Is that just how you approach coaching? Or did you have concerns last year and this is different? JM: I had concerns last year. Honestly, the concern was, ‘What if we don’t win this game today? What if we lose three of four?’ I had those concerns, understanding how you’re going to navigate that. But because of what we talked about earlier, the surrender to the result, I don’t have any concerns. Whatever we go through, we have to go through, however long that takes. I would regret more not being tested and going into a playoffs with zero adversity than being battle-tested and having an understanding of what we look like when things don’t go our way. – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics You’ve seemed to make a point of boosting up Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown in press conferences after relatively quiet statistical games. What is behind that? Joe Mazzulla: It’s a little bit of changing the narrative of what value is and what success looks like. For such a long time in the NBA, value is how many shots did you get and how many points did you score? Very few times do you have guys like Jaylen and Jayson welcome two other superstars [in Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis] and then empower Derrick [White], who should be an All-Star. So what I really want to do is change the lens of what value and success look like. I think they’re way more valuable than they get credit for, because of their ability to be great teammates. And that’s not talked about or clicked on enough. The fact that one of those two guys could take 8-10 shots and keep playing hard on defense, to me that’s just as valuable as giving them the ball every time and scoring 40. – via Boston Globe Joe Mazzulla, Derrick White, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Jrue Holiday, Kristaps Porzingis, Boston Celtics Good stuff!
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Post by kyceltic on Dec 28, 2023 13:39:27 GMT -5
Wonder what it would take to get Lonnie walker from the Nets? He's on a 1 year contract making 2.3 million this season. I've always liked his game!
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Post by hedleylamarr on Dec 28, 2023 15:04:28 GMT -5
Wonder what it would take to get Lonnie walker from the Nets? He's on a 1 year contract making 2.3 million this season. I've always liked his game! I like anyone the Spurs or OKC drafts. I think they draft the best of anyone in the league. Walker would be a nice fit for us. I agree!
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Post by hedleylamarr on Dec 28, 2023 15:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by hedleylamarr on Dec 28, 2023 15:10:47 GMT -5
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Post by kyceltic on Dec 28, 2023 15:32:11 GMT -5
Wonder what it would take to get Lonnie walker from the Nets? He's on a 1 year contract making 2.3 million this season. I've always liked his game! I like anyone the Spurs or OKC drafts. I think they draft the best of anyone in the league. Walker would be a nice fit for us. I agree! OkC has the Rockets top 4 protected, the Clippers not protected, maybe Utah's and their own draft picks in the 2024 draft, and the 2025 draft looks about the same. If the Celtics don't win it all in the next couple years, it could all be over, because the Thunder could go on a long run!
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Post by Admin on Dec 28, 2023 16:15:17 GMT -5
Wonder what it would take to get Lonnie walker from the Nets? He's on a 1 year contract making 2.3 million this season. I've always liked his game!
No moar guards ... give me the Nets backup C, Day'Ron Sharpe ($2.2M) to replace Rob and find another wing with size!
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Post by Admin on Dec 28, 2023 16:42:28 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Dec 28, 2023 17:15:49 GMT -5
The Celtics could more realistically build an offer for someone near the salary level of San Antonio’s Cedi Osman ($6.7 million) or Houston’s Jae’Sean Tate ($6.5 million), but any contract much bigger than that would present serious salary-matching issues. Boston could still decide to trade one of its rotation players for the right acquisition but would need to consider the future as well as the present in any deal. The team’s payroll is set to grow out of control in the coming years even if Stevens holds onto the current core. And the new collective bargaining agreement will punish the most expensive teams. – via Jay King @ The Athletic Trade, Cedi Osman, Jae'Sean Tate, Boston Celtics, Houston Rockets, San Antonio Spurs
Celtics trade deadline: How trade exception, luxury tax will impact Brad Stevens’ decisions
By Jay King Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images
Next up on the Boston Celtics’ agenda: a chance to extend the longest losing skid in NBA history. On paper, their meeting with Detroit might rank as the season’s biggest mismatch. The Pistons will walk into TD Garden on Thursday with 27 straight losses. Boston will arrive with an undefeated home record of 14-0.
Even with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown questionable for the game, the Celtics will be heavy favorites. They will try not to look past the matchup, but at The Athletic, that’s part of what we’re paid to do. The Feb. 8 trade deadline is just six weeks away. Here’s an early look at several factors that will help determine Brad Stevens’ course of action.
The TPE landscape
The Grant Williams sign-and-trade this summer left the Celtics with a $6.2 million traded player exception (TPE). It could be a useful trade chip, though just how useful remains to be seen.
At that price or lower, it’s difficult to find a player who would potentially be available and also have a realistic chance of helping the Celtics in a playoff series. Would the Hawks consider moving on from Saddiq Bey? He would fit comfortably into the trade exception and give Boston another playable wing in the postseason. Though Bey has been pretty productive for the Hawks this season, they won’t be able to pay everybody and could explore all of their options before he hits free agency this summer. At 12-18, they could be looking at a substantial roster shake-up soon.
Some other TPE targets would be at least mildly intriguing. Not many first-round picks get moved with one and a half years left on their rookie contracts, but if the dreadful Washington Wizards listen to offers for Corey Kispert, his sharpshooting could help somewhere else. Kris Dunn, a quality perimeter defender on an expiring contract, could be available if the Utah Jazz don’t see him as part of their future. HoopsHype’s Michael Scotto reported John Konchar as a possible Celtics target, though the Grizzlies could be hesitant to move anyone if they start charging up the standings with Ja Morant now available.
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Post by DaCeltics on Dec 28, 2023 18:03:28 GMT -5
Is anyone else worried about our 23 and 6 Celtics vs the 2 and 28 Pistons? I would be if we weren't at home. Someone let the dogs out...on Aaron Gordon Don't trust dogs!
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Post by puddin on Dec 28, 2023 18:07:00 GMT -5
Family dog and family car?
Any idea what kind of ride that is?
Waaaaaay to nice a car for a pooch to be riding in.
Pud
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Post by DaCeltics on Dec 28, 2023 18:34:33 GMT -5
Family dog and family car?
Any idea what kind of ride that is?
Waaaaaay to nice a car for a pooch to be riding in.
Pud
Was the technical term for the attacking dog "bitch"? They say...bitches be crazy!
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Post by puddin on Dec 28, 2023 19:05:19 GMT -5
Family dog and family car?
Any idea what kind of ride that is?
Waaaaaay to nice a car for a pooch to be riding in.
Pud
Was the technical term for the attacking dog "bitch"? They say...bitches be crazy! My guess is that the auto is a Rolls.
.... and that pooch rides in it!
Who be crazy?
Pud
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Post by kyceltic on Dec 28, 2023 19:21:57 GMT -5
They're not telling the whole story! Aaron stopped off at the White house!
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Post by elvissurfs on Dec 29, 2023 10:58:04 GMT -5
Last season your interactions with the media were sometimes tense. You’re a coach at the core, and if there was an option to stop speaking to us, I bet you’d take it. But you’ve seemed more at ease this year. What shifted? Joe Mazzulla: I think it came down to allowing myself to be emotionally vulnerable to the public. That was the hardest adjustment. It’s funny, I spent the first 17 years of my life being insecure and caring what people thought. Then post-college you spend time re-identifying yourself, being secure, and not being in the public eye, to the point where it’s like, ‘This is who I am. This is Joe Mazzulla. I don’t care what anybody says.’ Then overnight you go to being in the limelight, having to care what people think about you, having to understand how people view you. And that’s really hard, because I spent so much time working on not worrying about that. Last year I wasn’t ready to be emotionally vulnerable and my true self in the public eye. – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics Joe Mazzulla: And I never want to be a distraction to the players and organization. So I’m learning how to be emotionally open. I’m going to argue with you from time to time. It doesn’t mean I don’t like you or agree with what you’re saying. And, jokingly, I can’t understand why people give two [expletives] about me. I just don’t understand that. But they don’t care about me; they care about the role of the head coach of the Boston Celtics. So once I realized that I was like, ‘OK.’ – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics Obviously things are good right now, but what’s something about this season that concerns you? Joe Mazzulla: I don’t have any concerns. None? JM: Zero. Is that just how you approach coaching? Or did you have concerns last year and this is different? JM: I had concerns last year. Honestly, the concern was, ‘What if we don’t win this game today? What if we lose three of four?’ I had those concerns, understanding how you’re going to navigate that. But because of what we talked about earlier, the surrender to the result, I don’t have any concerns. Whatever we go through, we have to go through, however long that takes. I would regret more not being tested and going into a playoffs with zero adversity than being battle-tested and having an understanding of what we look like when things don’t go our way. – via Boston Globe Coaching, Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics You’ve seemed to make a point of boosting up Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown in press conferences after relatively quiet statistical games. What is behind that? Joe Mazzulla: It’s a little bit of changing the narrative of what value is and what success looks like. For such a long time in the NBA, value is how many shots did you get and how many points did you score? Very few times do you have guys like Jaylen and Jayson welcome two other superstars [in Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis] and then empower Derrick [White], who should be an All-Star. So what I really want to do is change the lens of what value and success look like. I think they’re way more valuable than they get credit for, because of their ability to be great teammates. And that’s not talked about or clicked on enough. The fact that one of those two guys could take 8-10 shots and keep playing hard on defense, to me that’s just as valuable as giving them the ball every time and scoring 40. – via Boston Globe Joe Mazzulla, Derrick White, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Jrue Holiday, Kristaps Porzingis, Boston Celtics yeah, I have to say that Mazzulla speaks well at times...he is starting to grow on me...
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Post by Admin on Jan 1, 2024 17:43:11 GMT -5
League sources say Boston is among the teams that is monitoring Utah’s Kelly Olynyk in advance of a potential trade pursuit. Olynyk, as covered here before my Showcase trip, is one of a number of Jazz veterans known to be available and the Celtics obviously know him well. – via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com Top Rumors, Trade, Kelly Olynyk, Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz
Why was the Boston Celtics-Kelly Olynyk rumor leaked? Marc Stein's report about the Celtics' interest in Olynyk while exciting seems a bit odd, knowing how Brad Stevens has operated since taking over as President of Basketball Operations.
By Matt John
Even though his contract is relatively inexpensive, stringing together a trade for Olynyk is tricky for Boston to do without potentially messing with a formula that's proving itself to be working.
That notion alone would make anyone ask why something like this was leaked. However, there's more to it than that. Leaking that the Celtics are interested in trading for Kelly Olynyk (again) isn't something that fits Brad Stevens' forte as an executive. Ever since he took over as the Celtics' President of Basketball Operations, Stevens has typically been tight-lipped when it comes to leaking trade rumors.
More often than not, in the Stevens era, nothing gets leaked from the Celtics' end before a move happened. No one thought the Celtics wanted Al Horford back before Stevens agreed to trade Kemba Walker for him. Malcolm Brogdon seemed like a wild fantasy before it was reported that the Celtics got him. It seems like a distant memory now, but nothing had linked the Celtics to Josh Richardson until Stevens plucked him from Dallas. There's clearly a pattern here indicating that Stevens almost always works in the shadows.
Adding to that, usually, when a Celtics trade rumor is leaked, it's right before the deal is made. The day they acquired Porzingis, Shams Charania reported their interest hours before it became official.
Ditto goes for the Jrue Holiday trade. When Adam Himmelsbach gave the lowdown of what was going on the day before the trade was made, that more or less confirmed that the Celtics' interest in Holiday was real since something like that didn't usually make it to the press.
Which brings us back to Olynyk. Again, this is not the first time Olynyk has been linked to the Celtics in recent years. Heavy Sports' Steve Bulpett reported that the Celtics were interested in bringing back last year. While nothing came of that, following Stein's report on Christmas, MassLive's Brian Robb gave the full scoop on how negotiations went between the Celtics and Jazz.
"Multiple league sources told MassLive that Boston had trade talks with the Jazz last season about reuniting with the Utah big man but were unwilling to match Ainge’s asking price."
So, their interest in Olynyk was clearly not a bunch of hot air. The one stark contrast between then and now is that the Celtics had expendable players on salaries they could combine to get Olynyk in early 2023, like Grant Williams, Danilo Gallinari, and Justin Jackson Jr. Now, the equation isn't as simple because the Celtics can't aggregate their end of bench players to match money to acquire Olynyk. Plus, the Celtics would be fools to sacrifice either better players for Olynyk, like Al Horford, or eat into their depth by trading Sam Hauser and/or Payton Pritchard for him.
So Boston can't really acquire Olynyk, and they usually don't let this kind of info hit the news waves. So then, how could this have been leaked? Possible explanations for why Boston Celtics' interest in Kelly Olynyk was leaked again
Let's first see this from the Celtics' perspective. Because the Celtics would have so many hoops to jump through to make an Olynyk trade happen, Boston may have leaked this to show that, in the event that Olynyk gets waived, they would scoop him up the first chance they got. Or better yet, Olynyk's camp is letting the league know that the interest is mutual in a reunion, so if it were to come to that, Olynyk might very well go back to the first NBA team he ever played for.
Next, let's see this from the Jazz's perspective. It's possible that while the Celtics have discussed bringing back their former lottery pick with the Jazz despite the odds against them, Danny Ainge and co. have leaked this to let teams know that they may let Olynyk go to one of the best teams in the league. Doing this would potentially stir up leaguewide interest in the stretch big so as to prevent a "rich get richer" situation. Ainge knows how to extract assets out of his own players, so something like that would be right up his alley.
It's also possible the Celtics are doing the Jazz a solid. Not just because of Ainge's and Stevens' relationship, but since the Celtics stood in the way of the Jazz's offseason plans twice in 2023 when they acquired Porzingis and Holiday, maybe this is their way of making it up to them. When it comes to the NBA, there's no such thing as too many assets.
In the long run, this could very well be a big nothing burger. The Celtics couldn't get Olynyk back when they had the assets to get him last year. His contract is even more tradeable than it was then, but it's even more complicated for the Celtics to get him back via trade now. Nonetheless, this report is something worth harkening back to when Olynyk's trade market inevitably starts to heat up.
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