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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 30, 2023 12:33:31 GMT -5
this just after a few days Hedley said that brogdon was a better pick or player 😬😬 just couldnt pass up an opportunity for a dig, eh? Not a dig. He's just wrong, and has been for three years
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 30, 2023 12:35:08 GMT -5
this just after a few days Hedley said that brogdon was a better pick or player 😬😬 Brogdon is a SUPERIOR player to Nesmith. Career high of 26? One game? Brogdon has a career high of 36, and is averaging 15 for his career.........let me know when Nesmith comes close to that. I personally like Nesmith better. There is an age gap. Brogdon has accomplished more but older. One is 30 the other 24. We should revisit when aaron is 30 by then brogdon will be retired.
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 30, 2023 12:35:47 GMT -5
just couldnt pass up an opportunity for a dig, eh? Not a dig. He's just wrong, and has been for three years sure.
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 30, 2023 12:36:40 GMT -5
Oh brother. Someone woke up salty.
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 30, 2023 12:42:00 GMT -5
Brogdon project lasted a season and some are talking smack as if he got us any further. I said last year, if we dont win, brogdon acquisition was a failure. Who was wrong?
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Post by kyceltic on Oct 30, 2023 13:14:37 GMT -5
I doubt Nesmith would have gotten us Jrue!
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 30, 2023 13:19:30 GMT -5
I wish Nesmith nothing but the best. I loved the pick when it happened. Pud is right, maybe a change of scenery was best for him. However, it wouldn't have been necessary at all had he produced here, and stayed healthy. IMO, he was given many chances to secure a rotation spot, and he did not. Bad luck, bad breaks, but he's not better than Brodgon, let's be fair.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 30, 2023 13:27:47 GMT -5
Brogdon has averaged double figures every year he's been in the league. Even with Nesmith's career game, Brogdon's PPG this year are higher. CAREER:
Nesmith averages 18 mins/.426/.350/.825/6.8 PPG
Brogdon averages 29.5 / .466/.388/.878/15.4 PPG
Again, let's be fair!!
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Post by drewski6 on Oct 30, 2023 13:33:48 GMT -5
I doubt Nesmith would have gotten us Jrue! I mean, this kind of ends any debate of whether the trade was worth it. Not to imply Nesmith isnt becoming a useful player.
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Post by drewski6 on Oct 30, 2023 13:36:32 GMT -5
I havent see Nesmith defend in a couple years, but hopefully for him he is less erratic and more disciplined. I remember him kind of running around out there (in lieu of sticking to his man) and fouling.
His defense will prob determine whether he becomes an established starter or a solid bench player. But hes grown into at least the latter.
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 30, 2023 14:09:22 GMT -5
I doubt Nesmith would have gotten us Jrue! I mean, this kind of ends any debate of whether the trade was worth it. Not to imply Nesmith isnt becoming a useful player. so all of the sudden you guys are on board with Jru just because Jru is better than Brogdon or just because it didn't work out with Brogdon? Kind of suspicious attempt to just push it under the rug. I just think it didnt work and thats it. End of story. Nothing cant hide that only pure pride.
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 30, 2023 14:10:18 GMT -5
I doubt Nesmith would have gotten us Jrue! as if any of brogs followers was thinking Jrue when we had brogdon.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 30, 2023 15:44:59 GMT -5
I mean, this kind of ends any debate of whether the trade was worth it. Not to imply Nesmith isnt becoming a useful player. so all of the sudden you guys are on board with Jru just because Jru is better than Brogdon or just because it didn't work out with Brogdon? Kind of suspicious attempt to just push it under the rug. I just think it didnt work and thats it. End of story. Nothing cant hide that only pure pride. Brogdon is better than Nesmith. That is the argument. And because he is, we were able to trade for Jrue. Jrue is really not relevant to the discussion. The discussion is - who is better, Brogdon or Nesmith. If we had Brogdon instead of Jrue, we'd be good, but not as good. If we had Nesmith instead of Brogdon? We wouldn't have made ECF last year. That's the point here
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Post by puddin on Oct 30, 2023 16:00:51 GMT -5
I mean, this kind of ends any debate of whether the trade was worth it. Not to imply Nesmith isnt becoming a useful player. so all of the sudden you guys are on board with Jru just because Jru is better than Brogdon or just because it didn't work out with Brogdon? Kind of suspicious attempt to just push it under the rug. I just think it didnt work and thats it. End of story. Nothing cant hide that only pure pride. Speaking of being on board... Brog continues to have an NBA top ten pencil thin (ala Don Ameche) 'stache.
Nothing can hide it.... not even pure pride.
But neither Brog nor Jrue can fly!
My unbridled Celtic pride demands Smarticus instead.
Pud
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Post by dfries13 on Oct 30, 2023 16:13:07 GMT -5
I doubt Nesmith would have gotten us Jrue! I mean, this kind of ends any debate of whether the trade was worth it. Not to imply Nesmith isnt becoming a useful player. Are you ok ? Missing some facts here friend.... We didn't trade Brogdon for Jrue straight up. Rwill and a ist rounder was added. Tell ya what i'm implying. Lets tell the whole story The Blazers are rebulding they might well have taken Nesmith no one knows.. Brogdon went there to make the money work not because the Blazers are building around him. The debate is. Is Jrue worth Brogdon Rwill and this years GS ist rounder?
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Post by kdp59 on Oct 30, 2023 17:38:33 GMT -5
Brogdon is a SUPERIOR player to Nesmith. Career high of 26? One game? Brogdon has a career high of 36, and is averaging 15 for his career.........let me know when Nesmith comes close to that. I personally like Nesmith better. There is an age gap. Brogdon has accomplished more but older. One is 30 the other 24. We should revisit when aaron is 30 by then brogdon will be retired. I agree Nesmith will likely be playing better when he is 30 than Brogdon , when he is 36
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 30, 2023 17:59:54 GMT -5
I personally like Nesmith better. There is an age gap. Brogdon has accomplished more but older. One is 30 the other 24. We should revisit when aaron is 30 by then brogdon will be retired. I agree Nesmith will likely be playing better when he is 30 than Brogdon , when he is 36 lol
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Post by drewski6 on Oct 31, 2023 8:19:44 GMT -5
I mean, this kind of ends any debate of whether the trade was worth it. Not to imply Nesmith isnt becoming a useful player. so all of the sudden you guys are on board with Jru just because Jru is better than Brogdon or just because it didn't work out with Brogdon? Kind of suspicious attempt to just push it under the rug. I just think it didnt work and thats it. End of story. Nothing cant hide that only pure pride. Because Jrue is an excellent player, better than both Brog and Nesmith, whom some of us have wanted here for years. Brogdon gave us a good season, sixth man of the year, then had a terribly timed injury - but then landed us Jrue. Not to imply that we shouldnt hold Brogdons injury against him, as it came w the package (we knew Brog had a high chance of injury when we got him so cant chalk the injury up to pure bad luck)
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Post by drewski6 on Oct 31, 2023 8:22:07 GMT -5
I mean, this kind of ends any debate of whether the trade was worth it. Not to imply Nesmith isnt becoming a useful player. Are you ok ? Missing some facts here friend.... We didn't trade Brogdon for Jrue straight up. Rwill and a ist rounder was added. Tell ya what i'm implying. Lets tell the whole story The Blazers are rebulding they might well have taken Nesmith no one knows.. Brogdon went there to make the money work not because the Blazers are building around him. The debate is. Is Jrue worth Brogdon Rwill and this years GS ist rounder? I dont think RWill and the first alone get you Jrue - I think we got value for Brogdon. But agreed, it wasnt Brogdon for Jrue in a vacuum.
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 31, 2023 9:11:35 GMT -5
I mean, this kind of ends any debate of whether the trade was worth it. Not to imply Nesmith isnt becoming a useful player. Â The Blazers are rebulding they might well have taken Nesmith no one knows.. Â Â this exactly my thought.
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 31, 2023 9:13:58 GMT -5
so all of the sudden you guys are on board with Jru just because Jru is better than Brogdon or just because it didn't work out with Brogdon? Kind of suspicious attempt to just push it under the rug. I just think it didnt work and thats it. End of story. Nothing cant hide that only pure pride. Brogdon is better than Nesmith. That is the argument.  And because he is, we were able to trade for Jrue. Jrue is really not relevant to the discussion. The discussion is - who is better, Brogdon or Nesmith. If we had Brogdon instead of Jrue, we'd be good, but not as good. If we had Nesmith instead of Brogdon? We wouldn't have made ECF last year. That's the point here made the ECF and?? What was the consolation prize?
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Post by hedleylamarr on Oct 31, 2023 17:41:03 GMT -5
Brogdon is better than Nesmith. That is the argument. And because he is, we were able to trade for Jrue. Jrue is really not relevant to the discussion. The discussion is - who is better, Brogdon or Nesmith. If we had Brogdon instead of Jrue, we'd be good, but not as good. If we had Nesmith instead of Brogdon? We wouldn't have made ECF last year. That's the point here made the ECF and?? What was the consolation prize? We wouldn't have been as good, is the point. You can stay on Nesmith Island now, for all I care. Jrue is better than Brogdon, and Brogdon is better than Nesmith (5 points last night). Everyone but you agrees, so I'm kind of done with it
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Post by cole on Oct 31, 2023 17:45:20 GMT -5
Welcome...to Nesmith island
Boss boss...de plane!
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Post by Cabutan on Oct 31, 2023 18:06:59 GMT -5
made the ECF and?? What was the consolation prize? We wouldn't have been as good, is the point. You can stay on Nesmith Island now, for all I care. Jrue is better than Brogdon, and Brogdon is better than Nesmith (5 points last night). Everyone but you agrees, so I'm kind of done with it meh. I dont think Brogdon was that good nor reliable. Just the trade alone gives me the reason. Simple as that. Is not a Nesmith island. You can follow brogdon and let me know how great he is and how is taking portland to the top.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Nov 1, 2023 9:40:32 GMT -5
We wouldn't have been as good, is the point. You can stay on Nesmith Island now, for all I care. Jrue is better than Brogdon, and Brogdon is better than Nesmith (5 points last night). Everyone but you agrees, so I'm kind of done with it meh. I dont think Brogdon was that good nor reliable. Just the trade alone gives me the reason. Simple as that. Is not a Nesmith island. You can follow brogdon and let me know how great he is and how is taking portland to the top. And you can let me know when Nesmith wins 6th man of the year
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