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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2023 0:19:50 GMT -5
I have tried talking to both of you by PM...no resolution...sort of how it went when Admin and Cole talked to Quaig and I during the Covid Wars (no basketball, bored to tears, arguing politics)...we just went at it in PM, with Admin and Cole...hopeless kooks... They threatened to ban us, we chilled out...better for everyone...would like to see Quaig post more, but I think he is mainly about football...we do not have issues on the Pats board...and I have communicated to him there that we and especially KY would like to see him here more...to which he responded positively...
He was here in last 24 hrs:
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 0:23:37 GMT -5
If you didn't see it and I didn't post it then maybe he's seeing things that aren't there.Calling me a special needs guy is not a personal attack?
That's no defense cuz you could have deleted the post after the fact ... drop that as a defense!
When asked what post of mine was directed at him, he couldn't answer. I'm sure you as a mod and an admin you would have seen it if a deleted a post.
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 0:25:34 GMT -5
I'm about to have a special meeting on this issue and decide the best way to deal with you two. I'm giving you both one final chance to avoid each other or keep it to basketball (sans the innuendos) or one of you and maybe both will regret my decision. I offered that solution. I think it's best if we stay out of each other's way, but according to him he's not going to stay out of anybody's way because that's communism.
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2023 0:43:25 GMT -5
That's no defense cuz you could have deleted the post after the fact ... drop that as a defense!
When asked what post of mine was directed at him, he couldn't answer. I'm sure you as a mod and an admin you would have seen it if a deleted a post.
Indeed ... you have an explanation?
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 0:47:26 GMT -5
When asked what post of mine was directed at him, he couldn't answer. I'm sure you as a mod and an admin you would have seen it if a deleted a post.
Indeed ... you have an explanation?
Yes, I deleted a post about a tweet that was outdated. The tweet was old so I deleted it. But that's not the game thread we're talking about here. It's about game thread 61, against the Sixers, not the Pacers. cole asked Cabutan why bring up the Fultz issue. Cabutan responded by saying I threw two jabs at him. So it's not the same thread because it's the Sixers thread that I'm referring to.
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 0:48:53 GMT -5
This is what Cabutan replied to cole:
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12 hours ago via mobile likePost Options Post by Cabutan on 12 hours ago cole Avatar 13 hours ago cole said: puddin Avatar 14 hours ago puddin said: I got a kick out of cabbie's Fultz comment.... seems harmless enough... and I've been known to needle fiercy too.
Seems to me that being able to handle a bit of teasing is a requisite for participating in the gave/take of on-line sports forum life... and if you can't handle it, if you take yourself too seriously, IMHO you simply don't belong.
No need to sugar coat this.
Pud
Until it goes 3 pages
well just in this thread alone he took two jabs at me. But I have to be the mute? Fair.
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 0:50:38 GMT -5
cole said he didn't see anything directed at Cabutan from me.
I also didn't post anything referring to Cabutan in that thread.
It's easy to check because I only had a handful of posts in that Sixers game thread.
Clearly he's lying.
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Post by cole on Feb 27, 2023 0:53:28 GMT -5
cole said he didn't see anything directed at Cabutan from me. I also didn't post anything referring to Cabutan in that thread. It's easy to check because I only had a handful of posts in that Sixers game thread. Clearly he's lying. Is it possible he may have misinterpreted something you said as being against him? Kind of like the rat thing that we all thought was for cabutan but you say you were just posting a random thing? Anyway its late lets all get some sleep. it's late here anyway
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Post by cole on Feb 27, 2023 0:54:17 GMT -5
cole said he didn't see anything directed at Cabutan from me. I also didn't post anything referring to Cabutan in that thread. It's easy to check because I only had a handful of posts in that Sixers game thread. Clearly he's lying. Is it possible he may have misinterpreted something you said as being against him? Kind of like the rat thing that we all thought was for cabutan but you say you were just posting a random thing? Anyway its late lets all get some sleep. it's late here anyway. Honestly after driving home from wichita and making 12 rackets, I don't much care any more.
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2023 0:54:48 GMT -5
Indeed ... you have an explanation?
Yes, I deleted a post about a tweet that was outdated. The tweet was old so I deleted it. But that's not the game thread we're talking about here. It's about game thread 61, against the Sixers, not the Pacers. cole asked Cabutan why bring up the Fultz issue. Cabutan responded by saying I threw two jabs at him. So it's not the same thread because it's the Sixers thread that I'm referring to.
Ok but in that thread you made 6 or more edits. I can see the edit but not what was deleted in the edit. It's possible that you deleted the offensive material and replaced it with everyday discussion.
Do you see now that it's not so cut & dried?
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Post by cole on Feb 27, 2023 0:56:12 GMT -5
I can hear the dragnet song playing in my head. Or maybe that phasered hammer sound in law and order.
Admin should have been an attorney not a finance guy.
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 0:57:02 GMT -5
And here's a link to where Cabutan once again called me an inbred. celticshomecourt.freeforums.net/post/178489/threadHe deleted that post you can check. He must have realized it was a bad idea to call me an inbred. But I already replied to that post by the time he deleted it. That's why even if he deleted it, I still have a copy of it. Calling someone an inbred is very disrespectful, if not discriminatory.
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Post by cole on Feb 27, 2023 0:57:56 GMT -5
And here's a link to where Cabutan once again called me an inbred. celticshomecourt.freeforums.net/post/178489/threadHe deleted that post you can check. He must have realized it was a bad idea to call me an inbred. But I already replied to that post by the time he deleted it. That's why even if he deleted it, I still have a copy of it. Calling someone an inbred is very disrespectful, if not discriminatory. Definitely not appropriate under any circumstance.
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2023 0:58:00 GMT -5
Agreed ... we're not going to resolve this this evening anyway.
We'll see what tomorrow brings but remember, warnings have been issued publicly.
Later ...
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 0:59:35 GMT -5
cole said he didn't see anything directed at Cabutan from me. I also didn't post anything referring to Cabutan in that thread. It's easy to check because I only had a handful of posts in that Sixers game thread. Clearly he's lying. Is it possible he may have misinterpreted something you said as being against him? Kind of like the rat thing that we all thought was for cabutan but you say you were just posting a random thing? Anyway its late lets all get some sleep. it's late here anyway Yeah, I'm also going to get some sleep. I just want to clarify to the Admin that I did no such thing as throwing two jabs at Cabutan in that game thread. The random rat picture was after he accused me of throwing two jabs at him, so it was well beyond the time he told you that I threw two jabs at him.
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Post by cole on Feb 27, 2023 1:00:26 GMT -5
Is it possible he may have misinterpreted something you said as being against him? Kind of like the rat thing that we all thought was for cabutan but you say you were just posting a random thing? Anyway its late lets all get some sleep. it's late here anyway Yeah, I'm also going to get some sleep. I just want to clarify to the Admin that I did no such thing as throwing two jabs at Cabutan in that game thread. The random rat picture was after he accused me of throwing two jabs at him, so it was well beyond the time he told you that I threw two jabs at him. Still, also, not cool
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2023 1:00:34 GMT -5
I deleted a bunch of shit by both of you ... any guest coming here seeing all the BS you two have posted probably isn't coming back.
To spare members and future guests I deleted a bunch tonight.
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 1:04:38 GMT -5
Yes, I deleted a post about a tweet that was outdated. The tweet was old so I deleted it. But that's not the game thread we're talking about here. It's about game thread 61, against the Sixers, not the Pacers. cole asked Cabutan why bring up the Fultz issue. Cabutan responded by saying I threw two jabs at him. So it's not the same thread because it's the Sixers thread that I'm referring to.
Ok but in that thread you made 6 or more edits. I can see the edit but not what was deleted in the edit. It's possible that you deleted the offensive material and replaced it with everyday discussion.
Do you see now that it's not so cut & dried?
Yeah, I agree that it's not so cut and dry. But here's the thing, Cabutan cannot produce any evidence at all! He's counting on you guys believing everything he says is gospel. The difference is when I say he said something bad about me, I have evidence. Like that post he deleted about him calling me an inbred. If you search his posts, you're not going to find that post anymore because he deleted it. But I replied to that post before he could delete it. So I have the proof to backup my claim. When you ask Cabutan what I posted against him, he won't give an answer. There's 3 things to consider. 1. cole said he didn't see anything directed at Cabutan from me. 2. I'm telling you I didn't post anything about Cabutan in that Sixers game thread. 3. Cabutan can't give an answer if asked what are the two jabs that came from me.
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2023 1:06:11 GMT -5
I deleted it!
I saw it when I reviewed the entire discussion after Pud told me he had to lock down the thread.
I probably checked your posts and his back a few days and deleted anything offensive. If Proboards found it before me they could freeze this forum.
So I won't hesitate to suspend both of you if it comes to that to protect the other members and the forum.
And let me remind you - it was your response to Cabby's post that initiated the response from Proboards.
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 1:10:33 GMT -5
I deleted a bunch of shit by both of you ... any guest coming here seeing all the BS you two have posted probably isn't coming back. To spare members and future guests I deleted a bunch tonight. Totally agree with you on that. Look, I'm all for having a debate about basketball and everybody having different opinions. But I just think it's crossing a line if you mix skin color or where you're from in a basketball debate. Reason why I don't appreciate the Philippines comment is not all Asians are brown skinned. Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans are light skinned. Philippines, Malaysia, Thailand, and Indonesia are brown skinned. I'm light skinned. So it's offensive to me if I keep being accused of having brown skin. That's just mocking me. The only member on this board that I really didn't have an issue with is cole. Guys like dfries, elvis, and even kyceltic were also in a back and forth with me at some point. But it didn't escalate because it was not personal, it was basketball related. Cabutan on the other hand resorts to making it personal when he can't win a basketball debate.
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 1:16:14 GMT -5
I deleted it!
I saw it when I reviewed the entire discussion after Pud told me he had to lock down the thread.
I probably checked your posts and his back a few days and deleted anything offensive. If Proboards found it before me they could freeze this forum.
So I won't hesitate to suspend both of you if it comes to that to protect the other members and the forum.
Absolutely! Totally the correct move, to delete any derogatory posts. But here's the thing, didn't you already warn him about those things and he should be more respectful? It's really looking like he's a repeat offender. He was already told not to say things like that and yet he still does it! It's the same thing over and over again. I'm offering to stand down and very willing to stay out of his way as long as he stays out of my way. The problem is he's saying it's communism if he agrees to stay out of my way. Communism? Really? It's very hard not to respond if he keeps mocking my posts when I'm talking to another poster here or I post something that he doesn't like.
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 1:19:11 GMT -5
I deleted it!
I saw it when I reviewed the entire discussion after Pud told me he had to lock down the thread.
I probably checked your posts and his back a few days and deleted anything offensive. If Proboards found it before me they could freeze this forum.
So I won't hesitate to suspend both of you if it comes to that to protect the other members and the forum.
And let me remind you - it was your response to Cabby's post that initiated the response from Proboards.
Yeah, I know. Reason for that is he baited me then suddenly my response showed up at proboards. Very suspicious that the counter punch was the one that got reported and not the first punch thrown by Cabutan. Like I said, in this thread he openly admitted that he wants me out of here because he thinks I don't belong here. He has an agenda. First he went to you asking you to ban me. Then when that didn't work, proboards suddenly appeared.
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2023 1:25:28 GMT -5
Do you really think anyone here thinks about skin color of one country vs another? I doubt it. And didn't Cabby say he was a foreigner living in Canada? He may have dark skin ... who knows. You may be presuming his intent. He's probably teasing you cuz Dfries or some others tried to get you to open up on your whereabouts and he thinks that needles you. Going forward I suggest you do one of two things: 1) Put him on block and only respond to basketball issues when another poster responds to him and you can see it. Any offensive comments will be deleted and the offender suspended. 2) Avoid any discussion with him whatsoever and of course he will have the same options as you and face the same outcome for violating the truce.
If this can't be worked out, a meeting tomorrow with the Moderation Board will make a decision that serves the forum & other members first.
You can read into what that means as their options will be limited if you two don't accept these terms.
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2023 1:31:32 GMT -5
I'm out of here now ...
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Post by fierce on Feb 27, 2023 1:33:42 GMT -5
Do you really think anyone here thinks about skin color of one country vs another? I doubt it. And didn't Cabby say he was a foreigner living in Canada? He may have dark skin ... who knows. You may be presuming his intent. He's probably teasing you cuz Dfries or some others tried to get you to open up on your whereabouts and he thinks that needles you. Going forward I suggest you do one of two things: 1) Put him on block and only respond to basketball issues when another poster responds to him and you can see it. Any offensive comments will be deleted and the offender suspended. 2) Avoid any discussion with him whatsoever and of course he will have the same options as you and face the same outcome for violating the truce.
If this can't be worked out, a meeting tomorrow with the Moderation Board will make a decision that serves the forum & other members first.
You can read into what that means as their options will be limited if you two don't accept these terms.
I accept those terms.
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