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Post by Cabutan on Feb 15, 2023 18:01:44 GMT -5
Out of wikipedia In baseball, a closing pitcher, more frequently referred to as a closer, is a relief pitcher who specializes in getting the final outs in a close game when his team is leading. The role is often assigned to a team's best reliever. Go find me the dictionary word or the handbook word for closer in basketball? And official one Like you said, it's adapted. And when it's adapted it's universally recognized, right? There's nothing official about the NBA. You're talking as if basketball is the same as the NBA. Yes, the NBA is about the game of basketball, but it's professional sports. It's also sports entertainment. They're similar animals but not the same animal. what??? There is an official handbook at every level. |
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Post by fierce on Feb 15, 2023 18:04:06 GMT -5
I have no problem with the loss. The Celts were expected to lose that game. What I'm pointing out is the ball would not have gone to Grant if JT or JB was playing. I said the ball would not have gone in the wrong hands if the Celts had their go to guy. If you don't believe in Mazz then how about KC Jones. I became a Celtic fan because of Larry Bird. And I watched hundreds of Larry Bird games and KC Jones would 100% give the ball to Larry 100% of the time in clutch situations. You're trying to reinvent the wheel here. The term "closer" and "clutch" is universally recognized in the NBA. it is not fierce. Accept that. It is not a basketball word period. There is no such thing Here's the thing, it's univerally recognized. Every NBA person uses that word. I get that you want to be different, but just because you want to be different, it doesn't mean the NBA universe will adjust to your standards. If you don't agree with me then let's agree to disagree. But none of us here would stop using the word "closer" or "clutch" to describe an elite basketball player. |
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Post by Cabutan on Feb 15, 2023 18:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by Cabutan on Feb 15, 2023 18:06:17 GMT -5
it is not fierce. Accept that. It is not a basketball word period. There is no such thing Here's the thing, it's univerally recognized. Every NBA person uses that word. I get that you want to be different, but just because you want to be different, it doesn't mean the NBA universe will adjust to your standards. If you don't agree with me then let's agree to disagree. But none of us here would stop using the word "closer" or "clutch" to describe an elite basketball player. I understand what you are trying to say without a doubt. Is just that the word closer is generic. In baseball it is actually part of the game. In a transport I want to call closers to those members that play in the last minutes seconds of the fourth quarter. For you is a clutch guy |
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Post by kyceltic on Feb 15, 2023 18:08:06 GMT -5
Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Larry Bird, Paul Pierce, Jason Tatum all closers!! Moot point Not one of these ''closer'' guys was on the floor last night. Right?...... Right Mazz should have called a time out and set up a play end of story... You can move the goal posts better than anyone I've ever seen! |
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Post by fierce on Feb 15, 2023 18:08:20 GMT -5
Like you said, it's adapted. And when it's adapted it's universally recognized, right? There's nothing official about the NBA. You're talking as if basketball is the same as the NBA. Yes, the NBA is about the game of basketball, but it's professional sports. It's also sports entertainment. They're similar animals but not the same animal. what??? There is an official handbook at every level. Yes, there is an official handbook. But the handbook is about the game. The handbook views all players as equals because the handbook is neutral. In reality the players are not equals because some are better than others. I already gave you proof that the term "closer" and "clutch" are universally recognized. It's just a case of you having a different standard than the rest of the NBA world. |
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Post by fierce on Feb 15, 2023 18:11:32 GMT -5
The word "rulebook" is self-explanatory. It's about the rules! Of course there would be no "closer" or "clutch" there because it doesn't talk about the players. The rulebook is about what the players can and can't do! |
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Post by fierce on Feb 15, 2023 18:17:05 GMT -5
Here's a more in depth look at how the NBA game is really different from ordinary basketball. fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-nba-teams-change-their-game-in-clutch-time/Though coaching orthodoxy has long maintained that 2 points at any moment in a given game are equivalent, the choices of many NBA coaches at the end of close games this season would beg to differ. Perhaps LeBron James was right when he said “2 points ain’t 2 points.”
Across the league, many NBA offenses change in clutch time (which the NBA defines as any game time when there are five or fewer minutes remaining in the game and the scoring margin is within 5 points). |
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Post by fierce on Feb 15, 2023 18:17:53 GMT -5
Here's the definition of clutch.
clutch time (which the NBA defines as any game time when there are five or fewer minutes remaining in the game and the scoring margin is within 5 points).
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Post by fierce on Feb 15, 2023 18:20:02 GMT -5
It's true that in ordinary basketball there's no such thing as "clutch time".
But the NBA is a different animal.
They have their own standards.
And they have their own terminology.
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Post by drewski6 on Feb 15, 2023 18:47:13 GMT -5
Ive definitely heard the term closer be used multiple times to describe basketball players. Al Durhams nickname for the Friars last year was the closer. Just one example. Theres a free throw make % associated w it as well, because the "closer" is usually a 90% free throw shooter, and those end of close games, you can lose it by missing free throws when they draw out the last 90 seconds of the game with multiple intentional fouls.
But the component to which Fierce speaks to (big shot ability) is also a necessary component to get someone dubbed "the closer"
But its for sure a real term.
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 15, 2023 23:58:20 GMT -5
Lol, Fierce PM'ed me about the dispute between Cab and him, and I had to admit that it was probably Cab who complained to Proboards...pretty weak...In the meantime, the board has bean pretty much these two same guys arguing minutia...give it a break, please...
Edit:
Private Messaging means just that... private.
Keep this stuff off the board!
Thank you.
Pud
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