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Post by dfries13 on Feb 5, 2023 16:39:03 GMT -5
I would agree about shooting centers except Rob plays yeah but the player who Stevens likely wants is a PF/C. You know Drew has a valid point. RWill needs a 12 to 15 ft jumper or a hook. Seems like the Celtics would have made him work on one the past few years. We can only use one ''lob only'' player on the court at the same time. Noel and Rob together likely won't work well. I don't count Grant for anything except standing around... I'm with Boss he's not worth 12 + mil to us no where close. Last game he never broke stride once just walked up and down the court.
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Post by Cabutan on Feb 5, 2023 18:50:12 GMT -5
Let's get Bey. We need toughness.
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Post by kdp59 on Feb 6, 2023 8:31:10 GMT -5
Nets probably are not done, building a BETTER team with out the flat earth idiot!
Nets to move Spencer Dinwiddie?
Marc Stein: Updating tonight’s NBA blockbuster trade coverage: As the Nets pursue additional deals before Thursday’s 3 PM ET trade buzzer, league sources say they have not ruled out potentially moving Spencer Dinwiddie elsewhere. – via Twitter TheSteinLine my take:
Dinwiddie and J. Harris Could allow them to trade for players like....D. Lillard, Z. Lavine, P. Siakam, D. Russell to name a few
Nets Daily: In addition to getting three picks in the Kyrie Irving trade, Nets also got a $5 million trade exception which they can use as soon as the trade is approved, probably today. (Nets also have $2.5 million exception and two valued at around $1.7 million.) – via Twitter NetsDaily
My take:
more than enough TPE for the Nets to bring in Drummond from Chicago (who they are supposedly trying to move) for one of those second round picks they just got from Dallas.
KD may soon have a BETTER team AND certainly a SANER one...do not sleep on them!
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Post by kdp59 on Feb 6, 2023 8:37:57 GMT -5
see you guys soon!!
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Post by rkarp1 on Feb 6, 2023 9:20:25 GMT -5
-if the Nets are done, and understanding addition by subtraction, but are the Nets now out of consideration in the east? -KD to the suns would assume Ayton and some draft capital? KD, Booker, Paul would be interesting -the team in my opinion that has to make a move is Philly. maybe Miami. I can definitely see Toronto and Charlotte shedding players. -does old friend Gordon have any trade value these days? -maybe the most important voice in the room for the C's at the trade deadline is their doctor? will Gallo play this season? based on limited tape seen, he appears to be moving very well and is getting close to light practice. if he can start to ramp it up in March, does he have enough time?
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Post by Admin on Feb 6, 2023 11:05:58 GMT -5
Nets probably are not done, building a BETTER team with out the flat earth idiot! Nets to move Spencer Dinwiddie? Marc Stein: Updating tonight’s NBA blockbuster trade coverage: As the Nets pursue additional deals before Thursday’s 3 PM ET trade buzzer, league sources say they have not ruled out potentially moving Spencer Dinwiddie elsewhere. – via Twitter TheSteinLine my take: Dinwiddie and J. Harris Could allow them to trade for players like....D. Lillard, Z. Lavine, P. Siakam, D. Russell to name a few Nets Daily: In addition to getting three picks in the Kyrie Irving trade, Nets also got a $5 million trade exception which they can use as soon as the trade is approved, probably today. (Nets also have $2.5 million exception and two valued at around $1.7 million.) – via Twitter NetsDaily My take:
more than enough TPE for the Nets to bring in Drummond from Chicago (who they are supposedly trying to move) for one of those second round picks they just got from Dallas. KD may soon have a BETTER team AND certainly a SANER one...do not sleep on them!
and they said the Celtics would have the most available for any "Buyout" candidates with their DPE ($3.5MM)
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Post by Admin on Feb 6, 2023 11:10:37 GMT -5
Way back to one of my original wants for a back up center ... he'll do but he won't fit into a TPE and Gallo would have to go along with Jackson or PP. I see PP getting us McDaniel so I'm not giving him up for Noel. We both wanted Noel for years. Stevens don't want anyone who can't shoot threes is a fair statement. Today the 76ers inquired about him . It’s obvious what the theme is for the Philadelphia 76ers as they approach the Feb. 9 trade deadline. They need a reliable backup center behind Joel Embiid and they need to do so quickly in order to fortify the bench unit. There have been a few names that have popped up recently and now, a former Sixer has drawn interest from president Daryl Morey and the rest of the front office: Nerlens Noel of the Detroit Pistons.The Pistons are a rebuilding team who are focused on developing Isaiah Stewart and Jalen Duren at this point and Noel is a veteran who doesn’t get much playing time. He’s averaging 2.5 points and 2.8 rebounds while playing in only 13 games for Detroit.
so getting Noel helps us and hurts Sixers ...
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Post by kdp59 on Feb 6, 2023 11:49:49 GMT -5
I guess to be fair...the Nets TPE would allow them to TRADE for Drummond (if they so desired) not bring him in as a buy-out
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Post by croc on Feb 6, 2023 12:19:50 GMT -5
Nerlens Noel gets interest from Boston ahead of deadline
By Souichi Terada | sterada@masslive.com
One guy the Celtics have inquired on is the Pistons’ Nerlens Noel, according to The Athletic’s James Edwards III. Other teams have also asked about Noel, Edwards reports, including the Heat, Nuggets, Mavericks and more.
Noel, the former sixth overall pick in 2013, has bounced around the league since being drafted by the 76ers. The big man is averaging 2.5 points and 2.8 rebounds while suiting up in 13 games this season. He is also a Boston native. Noel, though, makes a $9.2 million salary, so he’s not exactly the cheapest trade piece if the Celtics were to acquire him.
While Noel hasn’t lived up to the hype after being an early lottery pick out of Kentucky, he is a solid shot blocker and defender still. The Celtics don’t need him to carry much of the offensive load but instead be a solid depth piece on their roster. If the price tag from Detroit is too high, though, it’s unlikely Boston will look to break the bank for Noel.
The Celtics have also been connected to other big men across the league, including the Spurs’ Jakob Poeltl and the Jazz’s Kelly Olynyk. The deadline is just days away and set for Thursday, so there will be some movement on the market soon.
I'm good with Noel.
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Post by Admin on Feb 6, 2023 21:58:41 GMT -5
OG Anunoby proposal ‘swing worth taking’ for Boston Celtics by Andrew Hughes
MassLive’s Brian Robb, in answering a question from a reader who proposed the following trade package in his latest Celtics Mailbag, revealed that shipping off several second-unit contributors to land a potential starter in this arrangement is a ‘swing worth taking’ for the Cs:
Toronto likely to get better OG Anunoby offers than this Boston Celtics proposal
Anunoby could be a final piece for several contenders that have yet to break through in a meaningful way during the postseason. The six-foot-seven forward is a two-way weapon who’d be an ideal third option on many teams.
Two of those team reside in the west and could use a third option. The first is the Dallas Mavericks, who could use more top-tier talent in the Kyrie Irving trade’s aftermath. Dallas could offer Tim Hardaway and/or the expiring deals of Christian Wood and Reggie Bullock (player option) to go along with draft picks. Anunoby would be the perfect defensive-minded option to pair with the offensively-oriented Irving and Luka Doncic.
The Memphis Grizzlies could also stand to use another scorer behind Ja Morant and Desmond Bane. Anunoby has the defensive grit to fit the culture Taylor Jenkins has established and he could be a catch-and-shoot decoy to open up the lanes for the Grizzlies backcourt.
Either team would represent an upgrade over the Raptors, who appear more likely for a teardown then another title at this stage.
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Post by cole on Feb 6, 2023 22:12:57 GMT -5
OG Anunoby proposal ‘swing worth taking’ for Boston Celtics by Andrew Hughes
MassLive’s Brian Robb, in answering a question from a reader who proposed the following trade package in his latest Celtics Mailbag, revealed that shipping off several second-unit contributors to land a potential starter in this arrangement is a ‘swing worth taking’ for the Cs:
Toronto likely to get better OG Anunoby offers than this Boston Celtics proposal
Anunoby could be a final piece for several contenders that have yet to break through in a meaningful way during the postseason. The six-foot-seven forward is a two-way weapon who’d be an ideal third option on many teams.
Two of those team reside in the west and could use a third option. The first is the Dallas Mavericks, who could use more top-tier talent in the Kyrie Irving trade’s aftermath. Dallas could offer Tim Hardaway and/or the expiring deals of Christian Wood and Reggie Bullock (player option) to go along with draft picks. Anunoby would be the perfect defensive-minded option to pair with the offensively-oriented Irving and Luka Doncic.
The Memphis Grizzlies could also stand to use another scorer behind Ja Morant and Desmond Bane. Anunoby has the defensive grit to fit the culture Taylor Jenkins has established and he could be a catch-and-shoot decoy to open up the lanes for the Grizzlies backcourt.
Either team would represent an upgrade over the Raptors, who appear more likely for a teardown then another title at this stage.
If we could make that move we would be heavy favs
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Post by drewski6 on Feb 7, 2023 8:26:34 GMT -5
-if the Nets are done, and understanding addition by subtraction, but are the Nets now out of consideration in the east? -KD to the suns would assume Ayton and some draft capital? KD, Booker, Paul would be interesting -the team in my opinion that has to make a move is Philly. maybe Miami. I can definitely see Toronto and Charlotte shedding players. -does old friend Gordon have any trade value these days? -maybe the most important voice in the room for the C's at the trade deadline is their doctor? will Gallo play this season? based on limited tape seen, he appears to be moving very well and is getting close to light practice. if he can start to ramp it up in March, does he have enough time? Depends what you mean by out of consideration Against us - I dont see em taking a series. But that doesnt mean they still cant get to the second round of the playoffs.
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Post by drewski6 on Feb 7, 2023 8:27:41 GMT -5
I cant see Toronto making that move, but hell yeah - Id make it if their GM was drunk or something.
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 7, 2023 10:36:11 GMT -5
-if the Nets are done, and understanding addition by subtraction, but are the Nets now out of consideration in the east? -KD to the suns would assume Ayton and some draft capital? KD, Booker, Paul would be interesting -the team in my opinion that has to make a move is Philly. maybe Miami. I can definitely see Toronto and Charlotte shedding players. -does old friend Gordon have any trade value these days? -maybe the most important voice in the room for the C's at the trade deadline is their doctor? will Gallo play this season? based on limited tape seen, he appears to be moving very well and is getting close to light practice. if he can start to ramp it up in March, does he have enough time? Gordon Hayward probably does not have much trade value, much to HedleyLamar's delight... Gallinari keeps getting mentioned here, but I was under the belief that he is out for the year...which is why the Celtics got an exception for him?...
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Post by kdp59 on Feb 7, 2023 14:39:51 GMT -5
SO I figure we are all reading the same stuff now, that Boston has been calling teams about getting a player that fits into the Schroder $5.89M TPE.for me there are two players that would be good fits that salary's fall into that area. Both players would require Stevens sending out a first round pick I think to get them, since they have additional years under contract. J. Vanderbilt -Utah who has been talked about endlessly here and J. Smith-Ind. here is a comparison of their past two seasons stathead.com/tiny/UBhTYIF Brad can make a deal for one of those players, he could then try to get S. Bey from Detroit with Pritchard and a second round pick. That could solidify the team for not only this season but next year as well and is about the best moves I can see using that limited salary's going out. I don't see a fair trade for Grant at the deadline to be honest, so I think he stays. what are everyone else's thoughts about what Stevens will do, if anything?
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 7, 2023 16:21:12 GMT -5
SO I figure we are all reading the same stuff now, that Boston has been calling teams about getting a player that fits into the Schroder $5.89M TPE.for me there are two players that would be good fits that salary's fall into that area. Both players would require Stevens sending out a first round pick I think to get them, since they have additional years under contract. J. Vanderbilt -Utah who has been talked about endlessly here and J. Smith-Ind. here is a comparison of their past two seasons stathead.com/tiny/UBhTYIF Brad can make a deal for one of those players, he could then try to get S. Bey from Detroit with Pritchard and a second round pick. That could solidify the team for not only this season but next year as well and is about the best moves I can see using that limited salary's going out. I don't see a fair trade for Grant at the deadline to be honest, so I think he stays. what are everyone else's thoughts about what Stevens will do, if anything? Smith is playing less minutes than last year Indy isn't all that high on him. Ainge overvalues players and i don't think the greedy bastard will give Stevens a break. He'll want more than just a late ist probably 2 picks. The more i think about it the less i want Noel Smith makes half what Noel does PP should be traded he wants out him a a second for Bey would be a blessing. As much as i want Grant gone it's probably next year on a sign and trade. Meanwhile park his slow fat ass on the Pines. His only value is to give Horford much needed rest. The best option trade Grant for Smith or Vandy straight up but i don't see that happening because Grant wants double what he's worth.
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Post by Admin on Feb 7, 2023 18:17:07 GMT -5
SO I figure we are all reading the same stuff now, that Boston has been calling teams about getting a player that fits into the Schroder $5.89M TPE.for me there are two players that would be good fits that salary's fall into that area. Both players would require Stevens sending out a first round pick I think to get them, since they have additional years under contract. J. Vanderbilt -Utah who has been talked about endlessly here and J. Smith-Ind. here is a comparison of their past two seasons stathead.com/tiny/UBhTYIF Brad can make a deal for one of those players, he could then try to get S. Bey from Detroit with Pritchard and a second round pick. That could solidify the team for not only this season but next year as well and is about the best moves I can see using that limited salary's going out. I don't see a fair trade for Grant at the deadline to be honest, so I think he stays. what are everyone else's thoughts about what Stevens will do, if anything? Smith is playing less minutes than last year Indy isn't all that high on him. Ainge overvalues players and i don't think the greedy bastard will give Stevens a break. He'll want more than just a late ist probably 2 picks. The more i think about it the less i want Noel Smith makes half what Noel does PP should be traded he wants out him a a second for Bey would be a blessing. As much as i want Grant gone it's probably next year on a sign and trade. Meanwhile park his slow fat ass on the Pines. His only value is to give Horford much needed rest. The best option trade Grant for Smith or Vandy straight up but i don't see that happening because Grant wants double what he's worth.
We probably get something like this as I'm reading that Brad is aggressively searching for a way to use the $5.9MM TPE ... aside from Korkmaz who's demanding a trade out of Philly (he'd fit but why would Sixers provide depth to us) :
I think Noel will be fine and he has another yr on his contract but I would prefer Zach Collins if Pop is willing:
Other options for a big: Plumlee whose stats are uniquely similar to Poeltl but more affordable (-$1MM) though both are FAs after this season. And there's Mo Bamba who is the only one of the three with a 3-pt shot in the 30%+ range. He's a FA next season as well and makes more than Poeltl (+$1MM) and he's facing a 4 game suspension for coming off the bench to fight with Rivers who initiated it.
Mo got an extra day's suspension for a 2nd attack of Rivers in the hallway ... At least Mo has some fight in him!
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Post by Admin on Feb 7, 2023 19:39:30 GMT -5
16 realistic Celtics trade options for Dennis Schroder TPE By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.com
The Celtics still have a number of trade exceptions in hand but their biggest one of value expires on Thursday at the trade deadline. Boston was granted a TPE worth just shy of $6 million after dealing Dennis Schroder away last February and the window to acquire a player in that spot will disappear later this week.
Boston created an open roster spot for a potential acquisition last month when they traded away Noah Vonleh to the Spurs so Brad Stevens and company will be aggressive in pursuing an addition in this slot in the coming hours. While the Celtics could certainly pivot to a bigger deal involving substantial salaries (Danilo Gallinari) or young talent (Payton Pritchard), a simple addition would involve moving draft capital for a player that fits into the TPE salary slot.
Let’s take a closer look at some names that could fit into Boston’s biggest TPE and could realistically be attainable for Boston’s trade assets.
Cam Reddish, SF, Knicks ($5.9 million, expiring): Hoopshype reported last month that the Knicks are looking for just a pair of second-round picks for the 6-foot-8 wing who has fallen out of the Knicks rotation one year after they gave up a first-round pick for him. He’s probably only worth one and his lack of shooting makes this an iffy fit at best.
PJ Washington, PF, Hornets ($5.8 million, expiring): There probably isn’t a better fit on this for what the Celtics could use off the bench (a versatile big who can shoot) but the price tag will likely be high on Washington if he’s made available and there will be plenty of other teams lining up for his services. Given that he’s due a big contract this offseason in restricted free agency, it’s doubtful he fetches a first round pick for his services. However, several second round picks and a young player could be the potential cost.
Hamidou Diallo, SG, Pistons ($5.2 million, expiring): A useful player but making too much at a position the Celtics don’t need help at.
Cory Joseph, PG, Pistons ($5.1 million, expiring): See Diallo. A name to watch on the buyout market though especially if the Celtics end up moving some depth (Payton Pritchard) in a separate deal.
Torrey Craig, SF, Suns ($5.1 million, expiring): Phoenix is suddenly hovering around the .500 mark which makes their trade deadline fascinating on a number of levels. Craig has played a big role as of late, starting a bunch of games thanks to injuries but the Suns have a new owner coming in and may be looking to make a splash elsewhere, making Craig available at the right price.
Jalen Smith, PF, Pacers ($4.6 million, 3 years): The Celtics were rumored to have interest in him at the trade deadline last season. The Pacers have stumbled in recent weeks, almost falling out of the playoff picture entirely but they won’t give Smith away as he’s on a team-friendly deal for the next few years.
Jarred Vanderbilt, C, Jazz ($4.3 million, 2 years): The most intriguing big on this list given his youth and cheap price tag. Danny Ainge will surely make him available for the right offer but at least one first-round pick certainly be the ask. That’s a lot for a guy who may not crack the rotation in the playoffs but he would be a nice insurance option for the big man depth. If the price comes down, the Celtics should be in play but the bet is he goes somewhere thanks to the emergence of Walker Kessler.
Derrick Jones Jr, SF, Bulls ($3.2 million, expiring): Only real helps on the defensive end but would provide a more athletic alternative to Sam Hauser for wing options off the bench.
Mike Muscala, C, Thunder ($3.5 million, 2 years): Reliable big shooter, maybe worth one second-round pick
Amir Coffey, SG, Clippers ($3.3 million, 3 years): Not enough room for him to play with the Clippers amid a down season. An intriguing buy-low candidate for a 25-year-old and has some decent size (6-foot-7) for a guard.
Andre Drummond, C, Bulls ($3 million, 1 year): A big man insurance policy but his defensive limitations may keep Boston away after he flirted with signing with Boston two years ago.
Saddiq Bey, SF, Pistons ($3 million, 2 years): The price tag will be high for the Pistons given that Bey is 23 and on a team-friendly deal through next season. Bey’s numbers have been on the decline recently as well and he’s popped up in enough trade rumors that it’s fair to assume the Pistons will be listening to the offers. A first-round pick won’t be enough to land him is the assumption here but the Pistons will be sellers.
Willy Hernangomez, C, Pelicans ($2.4 million, 2 years): He’s been getting more playing time lately but there’s a logjam of bigs in New Orleans so he could certainly be had at the right price.
Daniel Gafford, C, Wizards ($1.9 million, 4 years): Signed a massive extension that kicks in next year that will scare Boston and a lot of other teams off from dealing for him. The Celtics don’t want to have his long-term deal stuck on their books just to back up Rob Williams.
Jalen McDaniels, SF, Hornets ($1.9 million, expiring): Any team on a tight budget will be intrigued by the athletic forward who has shined for the Hornets this year in additional opportunities. He will be due a big raise this offseason though so that will likely limit what the Celtics are willing to offer.
Naz Reid, C, Wolves ($1.9 million, expiring): He’s having the best year of his career and the Wolves are desperate to make the postseason so it feels like they will need to be bowled over to make him available. He probably is going to walk this offseason though due to their center situation so he could be had.
Bonus names to watch
Kenyon Martin Jr, SF, Rockets: A good contract and under control through next season. Houston is probably asking for a real asset for him but worth inquiring.
Keita Bates-Diop/Isaiah Roby, Spurs: A couple of forwards that probably aren’t part of the long-term plan in San Antonio and could offer marginal upgrades for the end of the bench.
Comment: B Robb got Diallo, Joseph & Bey off the Piston roster but he left out Kevin Knox, Jalen Duren, Isaiah Stewart & Killian Hayes
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 7, 2023 21:20:56 GMT -5
Smith is playing less minutes than last year Indy isn't all that high on him. Ainge overvalues players and i don't think the greedy bastard will give Stevens a break. He'll want more than just a late ist probably 2 picks. The more i think about it the less i want Noel Smith makes half what Noel does PP should be traded he wants out him a a second for Bey would be a blessing. As much as i want Grant gone it's probably next year on a sign and trade. Meanwhile park his slow fat ass on the Pines. His only value is to give Horford much needed rest. The best option trade Grant for Smith or Vandy straight up but i don't see that happening because Grant wants double what he's worth.
We probably get something like this as I'm reading that Brad is aggressively searching for a way to use the $5.9MM TPE ... aside from Korkmaz who's demanding a trade out of Philly (he'd fit but why would Sixers provide depth to us) :
I think Noel will be fine and he has another yr on his contract but I would prefer Zach Collins if Pop is willing:
Other options for a big: Plumlee whose stats are uniquely similar to Poeltl but more affordable (-$1MM) though both are FAs after this season. And there's Mo Bamba who is the only one of the three with a 3-pt shot in the 30%+ range. He's a FA next season as well and makes more than Poeltl (+$1MM) and he's facing a 4 game suspension for coming off the bench to fight with Rivers who initiated it.
Mo got an extra day's suspension for a 2nd attack of Rivers in the hallway ... At least Mo has some fight in him!
I'll take your trade for Collins in a minute. I'll even throw a pick in. Still leaves us with no replacement for Rwill however Mo is fine probably better than Noel. Noel can replace RWill on defense better than any other option. At 9 mil a year with no offense that's a little high to pay for insurance. We need a PF and a Center finding one man that fits that mold is damn hard. Stevens is a a sort of a pickel . Two positions to fill Horford is tired and Rwill has serious health issues. I seen this oversite coming sure you did also.. Theis or Kelly0? I'm confused like Stevens
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Post by elvissurfs on Feb 7, 2023 21:50:19 GMT -5
We probably get something like this as I'm reading that Brad is aggressively searching for a way to use the $5.9MM TPE ... aside from Korkmaz who's demanding a trade out of Philly (he'd fit but why would Sixers provide depth to us) :
I think Noel will be fine and he has another yr on his contract but I would prefer Zach Collins if Pop is willing:
Other options for a big: Plumlee whose stats are uniquely similar to Poeltl but more affordable (-$1MM) though both are FAs after this season. And there's Mo Bamba who is the only one of the three with a 3-pt shot in the 30%+ range. He's a FA next season as well and makes more than Poeltl (+$1MM) and he's facing a 4 game suspension for coming off the bench to fight with Rivers who initiated it.
Mo got an extra day's suspension for a 2nd attack of Rivers in the hallway ... At least Mo has some fight in him!
I'll take your trade for Collins in a minute. I'll even throw a pick in. Still leaves us with no replacement for Rwill however Mo is fine probably better than Noel. Noel can replace RWill on defense better than any other option. At 9 mil a year with no offense that's a little high to pay for insurance. We need a PF and a Center finding one man that fits that mold is damn hard. Stevens is a a sort of a pickel . Two positions to fill Horford is tired and Rwill has serious health issues. I seen this oversite coming sure you did also.. Theis or Kelly0? I'm confused like Stevens Olynyk!...
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Post by Admin on Feb 7, 2023 22:36:42 GMT -5
Here's another option I like and you may also since the big can play both PF and Center though he's perfect to replace GWill, I think he's small to play center but he does: This post has 3 center recommendations yet the 1st one includes a wing that I want badly:
3 centers the Boston Celtics should pursue at the trade deadline by Seth Quinn
While Al Horford and Rob Williams are both great options at the center position for the Boston Celtics, Horford is currently 36, and Rob makes fans nervous every time he hits the floor. It’s safe to say that more center depth wouldn’t hurt.
With that being said, the Celtics shouldn’t give too much up to get a third string center.
All they need is a guy who can step on the floor of a playoff game and potentially play a few solid minutes, or a decent number of minutes if Horford or Rob gets injured. The Celtics don’t need much from him, so they shouldn’t give up a premium price.
With all that being said, here are three centers that would be sensible trade options in terms of potential role, skillset, and trade price.
Boston Celtics center trade target No. 1: P.J. WashingtonThis first deal would require a call to Michael Jordan. P.J. Washington would be an interesting trade target that would likely require Danilo Gallinari, Payton Pritchard, and a second rounder to get done. However, given his age and original draft capital, the tanking Hornets may want more than that for their 24-year-old versatile big man. While Washington is undersized, listed as only six-foot-seven, he is also listed as 230 pounds, giving him the strength to play the center position. I guess you could say he’s like a taller Grant Williams. The pull to Washington for the Celtics would be the fact he’s a solid all-around player, with the ability to shoot from three, score inside, rebound, and play solid defense. He isn’t really anything special, but he’d make for a good third center option that shouldn’t get played off the floor in the playoffs. He’s also only 24, meaning he could be kept around long term. I think the ideal trade for the Celtics with the Hornets would be Gallinari, Pritchard, and either multiple seconds or a heavily protected first for Washington and fellow youngster Jalen McDaniels. This trade would bring in solid depth both on the wing and in the frontcourt, and if the players perform well, could be kept long term and get even better. The downside to a trade like this is it might require even more than I proposed, which would be a lot to give up for end of bench options. Also, each player is on the last year of their deal, meaning along with Grant Williams, the Celtics would have three bench options to resign that could ask for more than they are worth based on spurts of success and age. While a trade involving P.J. Washington could be risky for the Boston Celtics, it could also easily be well worth it both in the short term and the long term. This next center option is an even younger option in the opposite conference.
Boston Celtics center trade target No. 2: Naz Reid
Keeping with the theme of young stretch bigs, Naz Reid is another interesting trade target for the Boston Celtics.
Despite being stuck behind Rudy Gobert and Karl-Anthony Towns in Minnesota, Reid has had a solid season for the Minnesota Timberwolves. He is six-foot-nine, 260 pounds, meaning he has ideal size for a modern center. Similar to P.J., Naz is a solid all-around player who can do a bit of everything that the modern center is tasked with doing. He’s a capable three-point shooter, rebounder, defender, and inside scorer. To top it off, he’s only 23.
Given the Timberwolves center is under contract for only 1.9 million, a trade wouldn’t require much in terms of salary matching. A trade for the young big would likely be similar to what would be required for PJ and Jalen McDaniels, but without Gallinari, unless the Timberwolves were willing to do something like a Kyle Anderson for Gallinari swap.
Essentially, the same downsides to trading for P.J. Washington apply to Naz Reid, but a bit more extreme. The 23-year-old is having a better season than Washington., and is a fully unrestricted free agent, while the Celtics could at least offer Washington a qualifying offer to make him a restricted free agent. Reid could ask for way more than the Celtics are willing to pay him, but at the same time, if he provides good production as the third center, trading for him could be well worth it. Another high-risk, high-reward option for the Celtics to potentially trade for.
The third and final trade option the Boston Celtics should pursue is a Massachusetts native that’s way less risky based on potential price.
Boston Celtics center trade target No. 3: Nerlens Noel
Nerlens Noel would make a lot of sense for the Boston Celtics.
While he doesn’t have the shooting ability of the previous two options, he has a friendly contract (1 year, 9 million with a 9 million team option next season) and at 28, has experience on his side.
In terms of skillset, Noel has always been a good rim protector, making him an interesting direct backup to Rob Williams. He’s not known for much beyond his shot-blocking ability, but he is a decent offensive player and rebounder as a more traditional center. Standing at six-foot-10 and 220 lbs., he’s not the biggest center, but he’s big enough for a third string center.
The cherry on top is Noel is from Malden, Massachusetts, meaning he’d probably happy to play for his hometown team — especially since he’d being from worst to first in the eastern conference.
In terms of price, all Noel would likely require is Gallinari to match salary and a second rounder or two. If the Pistons would be willing to do that, which I don’t see why not, Noel could end up being a low-risk, medium reward trade option.
Each of those three options have their pros and cons as trade targets for the Boston Celtics. What do you think? Should the Celtics trade for one of these guys? Should they trade for someone else? Should they make any trades? Sitting pretty at the top of the league, it may seem like they shouldn’t mess with things, but personally, I think any team should try to get better and can if they put in the effort to.
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 8, 2023 0:22:30 GMT -5
All well and fine but factor this in Grant goes now or later?
Clutch Points @keith Smith.
Chatter regarding a potential trade involving Williams is starting to pick up. Smith even discussed Williams’ future with an anonymous league source.
“Grant wants a lot of money,” the source said. “We heard he thinks he’s got $18 to $20 million waiting for him in free agency. And he wants to play more, probably start. Not sure either one of those happen with Boston.”
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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2023 0:55:25 GMT -5
All well and fine but factor this in Grant goes now or later? Clutch Points @keith Smith. Chatter regarding a potential trade involving Williams is starting to pick up. Smith even discussed Williams’ future with an anonymous league source. “Grant wants a lot of money,” the source said. “We heard he thinks he’s got $18 to $20 million waiting for him in free agency. And he wants to play more, probably start. Not sure either one of those happen with Boston.”
I'm fine with trading him now as long as we get back a player that can replace his offense and play bigger as a PF. An Olynyk, Washington, Z Collins, Vanderbilt or going all in for OG Anunoby works for me.
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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2023 1:15:33 GMT -5
Check out this comparison between Poeltl and Plumlee ... they are practically the same player!
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Post by dfries13 on Feb 8, 2023 2:04:18 GMT -5
Check out this comparison between Poeltl and Plumlee ... they are practically the same player!
Both are free agents. Plumlee is 32 he might resign foe 2/25. He can also be had cheaper than Poeltl. Poeltl wants 4/100 to 5 /140 or there abouts is my guess. Easy answer Plumlee.. Too many veterans on the team no way to keep the payroll below the luxury tax for years. Stevens playes for the moment we need to keep a pick and make it a good one to even out the payroll. WYC said all in this year....... he didn't say years to come. I hindsite we should have extended Grant for 4/40 before his head swelled. He's will be a free agent brings his trade value down not up. Grant making only 4 mil brings little matching money is another problem being overlooked No sense kidding ourselves we won't get all we need just a token gap filler. . Two more years for Horford at 10 mil was a mistake he don't have two years left in his tank.. Many little petty mistakes make for big headaches when you live for the moment and worry about tomorrow too late.. On top of that. Mazz is not really the coach just a standin puppet Not to worry however the East is weaker than the YMCA team down the street. oh almost forgot signing Poeltl means RWILL is traded.. that's not going to set well with the fans. No way in hell we play Poeltl and Rwill on the court at the same time.
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