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Post by Cabutan on Nov 15, 2022 12:37:47 GMT -5
Even against OKC our defense still bad. OKC was careless more than our D being a factor.
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 15, 2022 12:43:11 GMT -5
We're gonna be tested our next 4 games. The Hawks, Pels, Bulls, all away, and then the Mavericks come in to Boston. I hope Brogdon is about ready to get back on the court! Rwill is getting closer, but I don't want him rushed back. I'm still hoping fora Poeltl or Bamba trade. I think either one would make us clear favorites to win it all!
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Post by Admin on Nov 15, 2022 13:11:25 GMT -5
Geez Hedley, he is just funning with the board... Anyhow, how the heck did you like Kari Lake's 'concession speech'... Lake, who had spent days stoking doubt in the vote-counting, responded to her defeat in a terse tweet. "Arizonans know BS when they see it," she wrote. Lake's critics seized on the tweet. "As it turns out, yes, yes they did," tweeted former Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. "Totally true, as the vote shows," jabbed Rep. Jared Huffman, D-Calif. "At least 50.4% of Arizonans knew," wrote Bloomberg editor Tim O'Brien. "Perfect concession: self-aware & concise," quipped The New Yorker's Philip Gourevitch. "Self-ownership perfected," added attorney Ari Cohn. She is a nasty person, who, unfortunately, embodies the ideals of her party. Refusing to admit defeat plays right along with the Orange Menace, who started the process. My brother, the sole Rep in the family, says he won't vote for Trump again, or anyone over 70. He wants "fresh" ideas. So, he's voting for DeSantis. I told him he's just Trump lite...........
If the next generation wants to fix the political problem they will demand that candidates are in favor of term limits. That will end the quid pro quo money grab and assure one philosophy doesn't dominate or stop govt from functioning.
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Post by dfries13 on Nov 15, 2022 13:17:31 GMT -5
next generation?
They arn't..
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Post by hedleylamarr on Nov 15, 2022 13:59:32 GMT -5
She is a nasty person, who, unfortunately, embodies the ideals of her party. Refusing to admit defeat plays right along with the Orange Menace, who started the process. My brother, the sole Rep in the family, says he won't vote for Trump again, or anyone over 70. He wants "fresh" ideas. So, he's voting for DeSantis. I told him he's just Trump lite...........
If the next generation wants to fix the political problem they will demand that candidates are in favor of term limits. That will end the quid pro quo money grab and assure one philosophy doesn't dominate or stop govt from functioning.
Well, idealistically speaking, they all have term limits. The government was designed to vote someone out if they are not working in your best interests. However, not always the case, as I'd find it hard to believe the Turtle gives a rats ass about the people of KY. Philosophically speaking, it won't happen because you are asking someone to vote on something that doesn't favor them. Think about it, what Congressman would vote on an issue where they have to relinquish their seat in X number of years? How would one get seniority in that case? Who would be SOH? See? Can't happen unless we re-write a ton of current rules. And, btw, NOT saying I disagree with your premise, just don't see it happening in our lifetime. Hope I'm wrong
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Post by Admin on Nov 15, 2022 14:43:45 GMT -5
If the next generation wants to fix the political problem they will demand that candidates are in favor of term limits. That will end the quid pro quo money grab and assure one philosophy doesn't dominate or stop govt from functioning.
Well, idealistically speaking, they all have term limits. The government was designed to vote someone out if they are not working in your best interests. However, not always the case, as I'd find it hard to believe the Turtle gives a rats ass about the people of KY. Philosophically speaking, it won't happen because you are asking someone to vote on something that doesn't favor them. Think about it, what Congressman would vote on an issue where they have to relinquish their seat in X number of years? How would one get seniority in that case? Who would be SOH? See? Can't happen unless we re-write a ton of current rules. And, btw, NOT saying I disagree with your premise, just don't see it happening in our lifetime. Hope I'm wrong
2-3 terms is plenty (esp in the senate with 6yr terms vs 2yrs in the house) ... votes would be for the citizens represented rather than the donors keeping them in office far too long.
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Post by Admin on Nov 15, 2022 14:48:38 GMT -5
That tech on Tatum has to be the worst tech I've ever seen in my life! Since someone bought up White's +- of +21, one of our guards had a +- of -11 any guesses to who it was???
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Post by cole on Nov 15, 2022 15:05:43 GMT -5
Well, idealistically speaking, they all have term limits. The government was designed to vote someone out if they are not working in your best interests. However, not always the case, as I'd find it hard to believe the Turtle gives a rats ass about the people of KY. Philosophically speaking, it won't happen because you are asking someone to vote on something that doesn't favor them. Think about it, what Congressman would vote on an issue where they have to relinquish their seat in X number of years? How would one get seniority in that case? Who would be SOH? See? Can't happen unless we re-write a ton of current rules. And, btw, NOT saying I disagree with your premise, just don't see it happening in our lifetime. Hope I'm wrong
2-3 terms is plenty (esp in the senate with 6yr terms vs 2yrs in the house) ... votes would be for the citizens represented rather than the donors keeping them in office far too long.
The counter-argument is that newbies don't understand the system yet, and rely on their staffers. Term limits mean that about the time a rep gets their bearings, they move on. This gives more power to the "permanent" washington staffers/establishment. Not saying I agree, but that's the argument.
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Post by cole on Nov 15, 2022 15:06:35 GMT -5
That tech on Tatum has to be the worst tech I've ever seen in my life! Since someone bought up White's +- of +21, one of our guards had a +- of -11 any guesses to who it was???
I think the nba refs have singled us out now as whiners, and we'll all get treated like Theis.
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 15, 2022 15:25:36 GMT -5
I think the nba refs have singled us out now as whiners, and we'll all get treated like Theis. well, I have to admit, Tatum and Grant can whine with the best of them!
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Post by drewski6 on Nov 15, 2022 16:34:46 GMT -5
I think the nba refs have singled us out now as whiners, and we'll all get treated like Theis. I texted a few friends this am: "need to quit the whining, its working against us"
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 15, 2022 16:38:39 GMT -5
We're gonna be tested our next 4 games. The Hawks, Pels, Bulls, all away, and then the Mavericks come in to Boston. I hope Brogdon is about ready to get back on the court! Rwill is getting closer, but I don't want him rushed back. I'm still hoping fora Poeltl or Bamba trade. I think either one would make us clear favorites to win it all! I'd add Miles Turner to my list too! Gallo, a 1st and throw ins should do it!
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Post by Admin on Nov 15, 2022 16:50:06 GMT -5
2-3 terms is plenty (esp in the senate with 6yr terms vs 2yrs in the house) ... votes would be for the citizens represented rather than the donors keeping them in office far too long.
The counter-argument is that newbies don't understand the system yet, and rely on their staffers. Term limits mean that about the time a rep gets their bearings, they move on. This gives more power to the "permanent" washington staffers/establishment. Not saying I agree, but that's the argument.
2 terms for a senator is plenty - 12 F'n yrs
3-4 terms for house members - 6-8 yrs also plenty given the intent when set up was that every American would rotate and all a chance to serve. With elections in the house every 2 yrs there's plenty room for rotation but we don't get it because of the 10's of millions spent on re-election.
We'd all be better off if Joe Blow rep'd for 2 yrs and voted in the interest of his constituents then left so another could serve.
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Post by cole on Nov 15, 2022 17:47:55 GMT -5
The counter-argument is that newbies don't understand the system yet, and rely on their staffers. Term limits mean that about the time a rep gets their bearings, they move on. This gives more power to the "permanent" washington staffers/establishment. Not saying I agree, but that's the argument.
2 terms for a senator is plenty - 12 F'n yrs
3-4 terms for house members - 6-8 yrs also plenty given the intent when set up was that every American would rotate and all a chance to serve. With elections in the house every 2 yrs there's plenty room for rotation but we don't get it because of the 10's of millions spent on re-election.
We'd all be better off if Joe Blow rep'd for 2 yrs and voted in the interest of his constituents then left so another could serve.
I agree
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Post by fierce on Nov 15, 2022 17:55:10 GMT -5
We're gonna be tested our next 4 games. The Hawks, Pels, Bulls, all away, and then the Mavericks come in to Boston. I hope Brogdon is about ready to get back on the court! Rwill is getting closer, but I don't want him rushed back. I'm still hoping fora Poeltl or Bamba trade. I think either one would make us clear favorites to win it all! I'd add Miles Turner to my list too! Gallo, a 1st and throw ins should do it! Myles Turner is not possible if the trade does not include Derrick White. Turner's salary is 18m. Gallo's contract is just 6.5m.
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 15, 2022 18:37:33 GMT -5
I'd add Miles Turner to my list too! Gallo, a 1st and throw ins should do it! Myles Turner is not possible if the trade does not include Derrick White. Turner's salary is 18m. Gallo's contract is just 6.5m. I said and throw ins!
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Post by hedleylamarr on Nov 15, 2022 19:50:00 GMT -5
So, as a casual fan, I just tried this trade:
Gallo and "fillers" Grant Williams and Payton Pritchard, plus two unprotected first round picks, for Myles Turner.
Didn't work.
I then adjusted the trade to include Luke. So, with the "fillers" it will work. Two questions, though. 1. How much would that hurt our bench for the rest of the year.........for Myles Turner? And, #2, is Myles Turner really worth it?
So much for "throw ins?"
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Post by cole on Nov 15, 2022 21:02:10 GMT -5
Maybe we can take the Celtics reluctance as a sign they believe Rob can still play
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Post by kyceltic on Nov 15, 2022 21:38:36 GMT -5
Maybe we can take the Celtics reluctance as a sign they believe Rob can still play He can definitely still play, but for how long, until he is injured again??
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Post by Admin on Nov 15, 2022 22:43:29 GMT -5
I'd add Miles Turner to my list too! Gallo, a 1st and throw ins should do it! Myles Turner is not possible if the trade does not include Derrick White. Turner's salary is 18m. Gallo's contract is just 6.5m.
Clippers have interest: Clippers Reportedly Have Interest In Myles Turner November 15th 2022 by Arthur Hill
After months of rumors about the Lakers‘ pursuit of Myles Turner, it may be the Clippers who make a strong play for the Pacers center, according to Eric Pincus of Bleacher Report.
Multiple sources tell Pincus that the Clippers have discussed targeting Turner. The team is in need of another center after losing Isaiah Hartenstein to the Knicks in free agency, and Turner appears to be the best option on the market, provided that Indiana is willing to move him.
Nicolas Batum is currently serving as the primary backup to starting center Ivica Zubac, Pincus notes, with Marcus Morris and Robert Covington also spending time in that role. Turner would provide a legitimate option at the five and would ease the burden on Zubac.
Turner is in the final year of his contract, but Pincus hears that wouldn’t be a factor for the Clippers, as owner Steve Ballmer is willing to accept a high luxury tax in order to build a contender. Pincus’ sources say that L.A. prefers to move some of its wing depth in the deal, rather than a lead guard such as Reggie Jackson or John Wall.
Turner has an $18MM salary this season, so the Clippers would have to send out at least $14.3MM in any trade. Assuming the team keeps Zubac, Pincus states that Norman Powell, Luke Kennard, Jackson, Morris or Covington would have to be included to get a deal done soon. L.A.’s options will expand on December 15 when Wall becomes trade-eligible and again on January 15 when Amir Coffey and Batum can both be dealt.
The Clippers are limited to offering either their first-round pick in 2028 or 2029 because the team’s other first-rounders are covered by obligations to the Thunder from the Paul George trade. Pincus points out that L.A. has plenty of second-rounders to offer, apart from 2027, along with young prospects such as Brandon Boston, Jason Preston and Moussa Diabate.
Turner is off to a strong start, averaging career highs of 17.9 points and 8.7 rebounds in seven games. He’s also blocking 3.1 shots per game after leading the league twice in that category and would be a valuable rim protector for the Clippers.
Pincus cautions that the Pacers may not be in a hurry to make a move. The trade deadline isn’t until February 10, so there’s plenty of time for Indiana’s front office to gauge its offers. One source tells Pincus that the Pacers have become skeptical that a deal with the Lakers will work out.
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Post by Admin on Nov 16, 2022 0:29:53 GMT -5
I'd add Miles Turner to my list too! Gallo, a 1st and throw ins should do it! Myles Turner is not possible if the trade does not include Derrick White. Turner's salary is 18m. Gallo's contract is just 6.5m.
Exec Says Boston’s Not Trading Gallinari
The contract Gallinari signed with Boston over the summer will become trade eligible on December 15. However, an Eastern Conference executive explained why the Celtics are not trading him.
The exec added why it would be hard to trade him even if they wanted to.
“It would be tough anyway because he has an option for next year.”
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Post by kdp59 on Nov 16, 2022 8:01:44 GMT -5
We're gonna be tested our next 4 games. The Hawks, Pels, Bulls, all away, and then the Mavericks come in to Boston. I hope Brogdon is about ready to get back on the court! Rwill is getting closer, but I don't want him rushed back. I'm still hoping fora Poeltl or Bamba trade. I think either one would make us clear favorites to win it all! I'd add Miles Turner to my list too! Gallo, a 1st and throw ins should do it! at this point I really do NOT see any trade involving a rotational piece happening. And most everyone knows I LOVE trade scenarios! I think they've gotten to the point in the season where they will see how Rob plays on his imminent return and move from there. IF he is hampered OR another injury pops up then a move may happen. But frankly Kornet, Vonleh and Blake have held up OK as back ups when needed so far. ( to my surprise) In fact IF Rob comes back fully healthy I could see another WING being brought in ( replacing the never used Jackson), instead of a another big man. even then I figure it would be a on the street free agent type OR a vet who gets a buy out somewhere and not any trades. we can all discuss/ worry about re-signing AL and Grant after this season ( I think they both will be back). And they will always have the MLE next season for another big. Besides Al and Grant (RFA) only Blake, Vonleh and Jackson are Free agents next season.
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Post by fierce on Nov 16, 2022 8:44:01 GMT -5
Celts will use the TPEs if they're not trading Gallo.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Nov 16, 2022 8:50:15 GMT -5
I'd add Miles Turner to my list too! Gallo, a 1st and throw ins should do it! at this point I really do NOT see any trade involving a rotational piece happening. And most everyone knows I LOVE trade scenarios! I think they've gotten to the point in the season where they will see how Rob plays on his imminent return and move from there. IF he is hampered OR another injury pops up then a move may happen. But frankly Kornet, Vonleh and Blake have held up OK as back ups when needed so far. ( to my surprise) In fact IF Rob comes back fully healthy I could see another WING being brought in ( replacing the never used Jackson), instead of a another big man. even then I figure it would be a on the street free agent type OR a vet who gets a buy out somewhere and not any trades. we can all discuss/ worry about re-signing AL and Grant after this season ( I think they both will be back). And they will always have the MLE next season for another big. Besides Al and Grant (RFA) only Blake, Vonleh and Jackson are Free agents next season. 100% agree. I've been saying they'll wait for Rob. No need to make any trades right now. Let's see how he feels/plays
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