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Post by kdp59 on Jun 22, 2022 7:42:13 GMT -5
So we need three additions: 1) PG 2) Wing 3) Big I'll start with the Big. I still want Bamba but it may be easier to work out something with the Knicks who will be looking for cap space if Irving becomes available or for any other addition like Brunson. They won't want players back so the TPE and a 2nd should be all that's needed to add the perfect compliment to Rob in Nerlens Noel. The only way you can do better is to find another big that can make the perimeter shot as a stretch 5 ... only one I can think of is Hartenstein but I can't see LAC letting him walk off a rookie contract. Muscala in OKC works. PF's like Prince or Porter are nice fits but again how can you sign a UFA? For a wing w/o going too far into debt but getting a local with the ability to cover 1-3 and score in bunches both inside and out I'm trying to figure out how to sign Bruce Brown who's a UFA ... can we have another team (OKC?) sign him and flip him to us for a TPE and a pick come Dec? MEM owes us (Bane!) and they may not want to pay Tyus Jones more than MLE. Rubio works but just wait for him to come back rehabbed in Feb. If too inpatient then Holiday is a RFA and may be gettable ... that's Aaron not Justin. I've been on the Noel bandwagon for a while. He and RWill could be almost interchangeable. Not a bad notion given the injury history. I was surprised Noel is only 28. Seems he's been around for ever. Just on a Morris fan. We have a stretch 5 right now. Go for a real wing. Brown would be an amazing get. See if he'll go for the MLE with a wink-wink they'll re-do it to make it financially worth it? How soon can they extend him after signing the MLE? They need improved ball handling. Part of that is within. Brown and Tatum have both grown, that has to be a point of emphasis for them this off season, but they need a bonafide ball handler. Trading White should be on the table. That alone might net one of the needs. Smart would have more trade value right now, IMO than White. They make similar money next year also. Not sure Brad is considering moving off any of the top 8 players after watching his presser yesterday myself. also to me the bigger problem is that Boston went and go upgrades for the PG and bigs depth at last years trade deadline, with White and Theis. now maybe the results were NOT what the team or certainly the fans wanted, but moving off either one this off-season likely means selling short on either player. Which is why in the end I think a scoring wing is probably the type of player they get, plus some upgrades around the edges of the 10-15 man depth spots. and for all the hype about the owners saying they will spend, when I read what was said it was they are willing to go into the tax and spend considerably more then this past season. They spent $135M in salary this past year and have $157M on the books for next. Is $22M "considerably more"? They are already over the tax line with the current contracts=check. I know some think they will have an open checkbook and I hope that is correct. But the words they use may or may NOT say that, just to be clear.
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Post by croc on Jun 22, 2022 9:45:42 GMT -5
I think they were hoping more shooting from White. They could move on from Smart too. But if they did move on from one of them I suspect it would be White given Smart's roots. As is they are both very good defenders with unreliable scoring, and neither is the best ball handler.
If the players they obtain are in the rotation subbing one in for another still gives them the core group...which is less than 8 now.
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 22, 2022 10:13:57 GMT -5
38. Jalen Smith, C, Pacers After barely seeing any action as a rookie in 2020/21, Smith found himself out of the Suns’ plans — they turned down his third-year option for 2022/23 and eventually traded him to Indiana. With the lottery-bound Pacers, Smith began to flash the upside that made him a top-10 pick two years ago, averaging 13.4 PPG, 7.6 RPG, and 1.0 BPG on .531/.373/.760 shooting in a part-time role (24.7 MPG). Considering Smith is still just 22 years old, there will likely be at least one team willing to bet that his end-of-season run was legitimate, rather then the equivalent of garbage-time production. Although the Pacers hold Smith’s Bird rights, they won’t be able to offer him a starting salary higher than $4.67MM, the amount of his declined option. my pick Thats the type of efficiency I salivate at. 5.31/.371, so .371 from 3 means that the .531 overall fg% isnt all dunks.
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 22, 2022 10:17:01 GMT -5
trade Theis for him! well, if Udoka would play him that is. Actually I had touted Green as a trade get at the deadline over Theis. Mostly because Green does some of the same things as Grant and probably better. Actually makes about the same money this next year too. he would be almost as old as Al though. Green i'll take over Grant but we need someone who can run We're much better when we are fast breaking. Running a set offense without a true PG usually fails On Timmy leaving...Next year if we don't improve or fail to make the finals ..His watch will be set in Central Time... Don't think Utah cottons to him and my prediction he wouldn't hang a banner as a NBA coach was spot on Another good one. We use to kill teams winning the turnover battle and punishing them in transition. Would like to see us get back to that.
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 22, 2022 10:19:20 GMT -5
Free Agents in 2023 gives C's 1 season under the TPE to negotiate a new contract or in the case of RFA's an extra year at the QO or matching any potential offers rec'd if unable to work out a new contract mutually. Club options in 2023 are a bonus while Player Options risk seeing that player go to another team or locale he prefers. I've only tagged 3 players with PO's in 2023 earning around $13mm each as worthy TPE candidates: Kyle Kuzma Jordan Clarkson Josh Hart These ballers are UFA in 2023 hence giving us one season to integrate and resign them if they are a good fit:
Here are some RFA this summer that can be negotiated with or play under the QO for a season (ala Fournier) before becoming a UFA next season:
Dont like Clarksons efficiency metrics and low assist totals. Makes me thinks hes an inefficient scorer who needs volume and not much of a facilitator. Josh Hart = very intriguing tho
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Post by drewski6 on Jun 22, 2022 10:22:03 GMT -5
Owners say spend, spend and spend some more option: Trade #1 Boston sends D. Theis (8.69M) and a future first to the Clippers for Marcus Morris ( 16.37M). Both players fit into TPE’s on both teams Trade #2 Boston sends two second round picks to Sacramento for Justin Holiday (6.3M) MLE ($6.4M) Boston signs Chris Boucher from Toronto to a 3 years deal with the MLE. Other vet minimum signings: Denzel Valentine- $2.6M Tacko Fall- $2.0M The roster: Bigs Rob Williams - $10.9M A.Horford- $26.5M Marcus Morris- $16.3M Trade Grant Williams- $4.3M Chris Boucher- $6.3M (MLE) Tacko Fall- $2M (Vet minimum) Wings J. Tatum- $30.3M J. Brown- $28.0M Justin Holiday- $6.3M (trade) A. Nesmith- $3.8M D. Valentine- $2.6M (vet min FA) S. Hauser- $1.56M Ball Handlers M. Smart- $17.2M D. White- $16.9M P. Pritchard- $2.2M Total salary $176M Probable tax payments in the $35-40M range open up those wallets moneybags! Too big heavy for my tastes.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jun 22, 2022 12:10:01 GMT -5
This guy is expected to resign at over 20 mil per season anyway. Just read it. He's worth that. His dad is Rick Brunson who was on the 2000 Celtics. I hope Ime and Rick are close! Lol
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Post by cole on Jun 22, 2022 12:11:45 GMT -5
His dad is Rick Brunson who was on the 2000 Celtics. I hope Ime and Rick are close! Lol Well not to us. We can't afford him without major reconstruction. But generally on the market I'm sure he'll bring that
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2022 13:54:03 GMT -5
Celtics expected to show interest in Nicolas Batum in free agency By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.comLAC forward Nicolas Batum (33) dunks past Cleveland Cavaliers forward Evan Mobley (4) Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP
One of the Celtics’ top priorities this offseason will likely be finding some help on the wing to take some of the onus off of Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. One veteran name that will be hitting the free agent market in that mold is Nicolas Batum.
The French wing is declining a $3.3 million player option with the Clippers and is expected to re-sign with the franchise according to Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports. However, the Celtics are one of several teams including the Lakers, Bulls, Suns and Jazz that are expected to make a run at the 14-year veteran per Haynes.
The 33-year-old Batum started 54 games for the Clippers last season, averaging 8.3 points and 4.3 rebounds over 24.8 minutes per game. He shot over 40 percent from 3-point range for the second straight season for a Clippers squad that bowed out of the postseason in the Western Conference play-in tournament. His size at 6-foot-8 and defensive versatility would make him a terrific fit in Ime Udoka’s switch-heavy defensive system.
What can the Celtics offer Batum in free agency?
The Celtics, along with the rest of Batum’s suitors beyond the Clippers will be fighting an uphill battle from a financial standpoint to land him. The Celtics have the ability to offer their full taxpayer mid-level exception for Batum which has a starting salary of $6.3 million and can include five percent annual raises for three years.
The Clippers on the other hand have early Bird Rights on Batum, which gives them the opportunity to offer far more than Boston and other teams limited to using the mid-level exception for free agents. The Clippers can offer up to roughly $10.5 million as a starting salary for multiple years, opening the door for them to outbid most of Batum’s competition on the open market.
The Clippers already have over $165 million committed in salary for next season to 11 players but the deep pockets of team owner Steve Ballmer probably won’t limit the front office from offering Batum what any other suitor is willing to pay.
The one thing the Celtics can try to sell Batum on is a better chance at winning a title than with the Clippers. Batum is in the twilight of his career and his Clippers star teammates have been impacted by injuries for the past two seasons, keeping them from being a true contender along the way. Better health may change that during the 2022-23 season but Boston’s younger star core could be more appealing to Batum with the right pitch. The odds are against Boston on this front when you factor in the financial component but it’s safe to bet Brad Stevens and company will be making a strong push for the veteran wing next week once free agency opens on Thursday.
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2022 13:56:48 GMT -5
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Post by dfries13 on Jun 22, 2022 13:58:06 GMT -5
38. Jalen Smith, C, Pacers After barely seeing any action as a rookie in 2020/21, Smith found himself out of the Suns’ plans — they turned down his third-year option for 2022/23 and eventually traded him to Indiana. With the lottery-bound Pacers, Smith began to flash the upside that made him a top-10 pick two years ago, averaging 13.4 PPG, 7.6 RPG, and 1.0 BPG on .531/.373/.760 shooting in a part-time role (24.7 MPG). Considering Smith is still just 22 years old, there will likely be at least one team willing to bet that his end-of-season run was legitimate, rather then the equivalent of garbage-time production. Although the Pacers hold Smith’s Bird rights, they won’t be able to offer him a starting salary higher than $4.67MM, the amount of his declined option. my pick Thats the type of efficiency I salivate at. 5.31/.371, so .371 from 3 means that the .531 overall fg% isnt all dunks. Me too plays decent D also.. I'll give him 3 or 4 at 8 to 10 per year
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2022 14:04:53 GMT -5
Only way to get him (J Smith) is with the $6.3mm MLE ... nobody will outbid that?
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 22, 2022 15:57:37 GMT -5
anyone see this little piece:
It’s not hard to connect the dots to a Hayward trade, but ESPN’s Brian Windhorst reported on air that the Hornets are willing to attach one of their first-round picks — No. 13 or No. 15 — to whatever team takes on Hayward’s salary (hat tip Real GM).
so there ya go Celtic fans....Hayward AND the #13 pick for White, Theis and Stauskas..thats my FINAL OFFER!
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Post by croc on Jun 22, 2022 16:32:17 GMT -5
anyone see this little piece: It’s not hard to connect the dots to a Hayward trade, but ESPN’s Brian Windhorst reported on air that the Hornets are willing to attach one of their first-round picks — No. 13 or No. 15 — to whatever team takes on Hayward’s salary (hat tip Real GM). so there ya go Celtic fans....Hayward AND the #13 pick for White, Theis and Stauskas..thats my FINAL OFFER! Another returning vet.... Hayward's a solid Wing, when healthy. He knows the system. Plus a decent pick. If Wyc is willing, I'd do it.
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Post by Cabutan on Jun 22, 2022 17:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by dfries13 on Jun 22, 2022 18:32:07 GMT -5
Only way to get him (J Smith) is with the $6.3mm MLE ... nobody will outbid that? Any team will outbid that. You musta studied NBA law at Harvard. I struggle at times..
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Post by dfries13 on Jun 22, 2022 18:38:29 GMT -5
anyone see this little piece: It’s not hard to connect the dots to a Hayward trade, but ESPN’s Brian Windhorst reported on air that the Hornets are willing to attach one of their first-round picks — No. 13 or No. 15 — to whatever team takes on Hayward’s salary (hat tip Real GM). so there ya go Celtic fans....Hayward AND the #13 pick for White, Theis and Stauskas..thats my FINAL OFFER! Most of the team is for sale and i believe coachless. Jordan ain't the brightist but he says no. Me? I offer Grant or Smart if he wants instead of White and Theis and throw in 53 this year and any future 2nds
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Post by DaCeltics on Jun 22, 2022 19:00:09 GMT -5
The draft is an offseason acquisition! Lol
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 23, 2022 6:44:04 GMT -5
anyone see this little piece: It’s not hard to connect the dots to a Hayward trade, but ESPN’s Brian Windhorst reported on air that the Hornets are willing to attach one of their first-round picks — No. 13 or No. 15 — to whatever team takes on Hayward’s salary (hat tip Real GM). so there ya go Celtic fans....Hayward AND the #13 pick for White, Theis and Stauskas..thats my FINAL OFFER! Just to clarify I was joking about Hayward coming back here. I mean IF the guy could stay healthy maybe. BUt to be honest he can't stay on the floor. in the last 5 years he's played 1-G 72 52 44 49 Bill Walton almost played as much! Maybe Ainge will take him in Utah. Maybe Jordan should just sell to LeBron, you really need to be a billionaire if you're gonna have a sports team for a toy anyway.
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Post by kdp59 on Jun 23, 2022 6:45:11 GMT -5
onto the D. Murray and J. Collins trade talk now!
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Post by kivancb on Jun 23, 2022 9:12:23 GMT -5
I like him, he's buddies with Jayson and a tremendous shooter. He's for sure better than Duncan Robinson and also cheaper at that.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jun 23, 2022 10:28:49 GMT -5
Embiid stopper.
Man is a BEAST.
7 footer 285lbs and athletic
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Post by DaCeltics on Jun 23, 2022 10:37:49 GMT -5
I like him, he's buddies with Jayson and a tremendous shooter. He's for sure better than Duncan Robinson and also cheaper at that. Exellent option for TPE
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Post by quagmire on Jun 23, 2022 11:05:55 GMT -5
BSN yesterday had the Celtics odds at 3-1 to acquire Beal (best odds of all the teams “in” on him). One scenario was Smart, Theis, Nesmith and 2 or 3 #1’s. Would you do it?
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Post by DaCeltics on Jun 23, 2022 11:16:52 GMT -5
I am ok with Nic Batum as a free agent target for the right price. Or even sign and trade TPE.
6-9 and adds to our 2 way player versatility
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