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Post by drewski6 on Jan 13, 2021 21:20:32 GMT -5
Its a head scratcher why they (Rockets) would give up LeVert and a 2nd for Oladipo. But it makes me hesitant to believe they would give him away, even though I understand why they would. Big contract, not young, rebuilding team. Maybe they think they can squeeze another first or 2 from him at the deadline. Id still rather have DeRozan. He's more efficient.
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Post by fierce on Jan 13, 2021 21:28:29 GMT -5
Its a head scratcher why they (Rockets) would give up LeVert and a 2nd for Oladipo. But it makes me hesitant to believe they would give him away, even though I understand why they would. Big contract, not young, rebuilding team. Maybe they think they can squeeze another first or 2 from him at the deadline. Id still rather have DeRozan. He's more efficient. LaVert still has 52.5m left on his contract. Looks like the Rockets don't want to take on a big contract right now. Oladipo gives them cap relief at the end of the season. But they can also flip Dipo for another pick. Regarding DeRozan, I like him too! Celts would have to trade Theis and Carsen to stretch the TPE to around 27m. I don't think the Celts need to rush into anything right now. Celts are #1 in the east right now and they're doing it without Kemba. So Brad should just keep searching for combinations that would make the Celts more prepared for the playoffs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 21:32:02 GMT -5
Its a head scratcher why they (Rockets) would give up LeVert and a 2nd for Oladipo. But it makes me hesitant to believe they would give him away, even though I understand why they would. Big contract, not young, rebuilding team. Maybe they think they can squeeze another first or 2 from him at the deadline. Id still rather have DeRozan. He's more efficient. They don’t own their first this year. So might as well win as much as you can. That makes me think that Oladipo may not be available. But if they fail and they see Oladipo bolting, they may trade him at deadline.
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Post by fierce on Jan 13, 2021 21:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 21:34:04 GMT -5
Its a head scratcher why they (Rockets) would give up LeVert and a 2nd for Oladipo. But it makes me hesitant to believe they would give him away, even though I understand why they would. Big contract, not young, rebuilding team. Maybe they think they can squeeze another first or 2 from him at the deadline. Id still rather have DeRozan. He's more efficient. LaVert still has 52.5m left on his contract. Looks like the Rockets don't want to take on a big contract right now. Oladipo gives them cap relief at the end of the season. But they can also flip Dipo for another pick. Regarding DeRozan, I like him too! Celts would have to trade Theis and Carsen to stretch the TPE to around 27m. I don't think the Celts need to rush into anything right now. Celts are #1 in the east right now and they're doing it without Kemba. So Brad should just keep searching for combinations that would make the Celts more prepared for the playoffs. Interesting. Will Houston tank to get a top-3 pick or will they try to win. Makes more sense to tank.
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Post by fierce on Jan 13, 2021 21:34:16 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jan 13, 2021 21:36:10 GMT -5
Harden traded to Nets, Victor Oladipo to Rockets as part of 4-team NBA blockbuster By Nick O'Malley | (Getty Images)AP James Harden is coming to the Eastern Conference and joining up with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. Meanwhile, Victor Oladipo is heading West. According to The Athletic’s Shams Charania, the Houston Rockets are dealing their disgruntled star to the Brooklyn Nets as part of a four-team trade that includes the Cleveland Cavaliers and Indiana Pacers. ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reports that the Nets are giving up four first-round picks as well as four first-round pick swaps to the Rockets in exchange for Harden. Additionally, the Nets are reportedly sending Jarrett Allen and Taurean Prince to the Cavaliers. ESPN also reports that Caris LeVert, Dante Exum and Rodions Kurucs are heading to Houston. Then there’s the Indiana element, who are dealing away Oladipo in exchange for a package that centers around LeVert.
Here’s how it breaks down, per Charania:
Nets get: James Harden
Pacers get: Caris LeVert, 2nd-round pick
Cavaliers get: Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince
Rockets get: Victor Oladipo, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, four total first-round picks, four 1st-round pick swaps with Brooklyn.
The move has major ramifications for the Boston Celtics and the Eastern Conference. The Nets were already a major power in the East. Now, they add Harden, creating a Big Three along with Irving and Durant. However, it remains to be seen how that trio will fit together in Brooklyn.
Harden has been unhappy with the Rockets organization, with signs pointing to the star wanting out of Houston this season. There has been rampant speculation over Harden’s conditioning and motivation this season. Meanwhile, Irving has been absent from the team for personal reasons and was recently spotted at an indoor birthday party where participants were not wearing masks.
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Post by fierce on Jan 13, 2021 21:36:57 GMT -5
LaVert still has 52.5m left on his contract. Looks like the Rockets don't want to take on a big contract right now. Oladipo gives them cap relief at the end of the season. But they can also flip Dipo for another pick. Regarding DeRozan, I like him too! Celts would have to trade Theis and Carsen to stretch the TPE to around 27m. I don't think the Celts need to rush into anything right now. Celts are #1 in the east right now and they're doing it without Kemba. So Brad should just keep searching for combinations that would make the Celts more prepared for the playoffs. Interesting. Will Houston tank to get a top-3 pick or will they try to win. Makes more sense to tank. Agree. If you saw the last two games of the Rockets, there's just nothing there. The Rockets are just not a playoff team right now.
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 13, 2021 23:03:09 GMT -5
I think the nets could have been really good with durant minus kyrie. As mentioned before, the depth was there. Now these three, kind of scary what could come out. Is either a disaster or something brilliant. We will see I wouldnt be surprised if they gave him the ole "you need to take care of yourself. We want you to be here, but if you need to be somewhere else, we completely get it" that would be funny but not surprising
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Post by cole on Jan 13, 2021 23:24:49 GMT -5
Houston should have copied the spurs with ice/artis and thd sixers with iverson/motumbo. Go all in on a defensive big. Cover both ends.
Harden and a pg as stars was always stupid
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Post by quagmire on Jan 13, 2021 23:35:08 GMT -5
How about grabbing Boogey from the Rockets? That solves the bench C problem! or are you all to sour on his attitude?
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Post by cole on Jan 14, 2021 0:15:16 GMT -5
How about grabbing Boogey from the Rockets? That solves the bench C problem! or are you all to sour on his attitude? I don't remember hearing his attitude being bad since he's been coming back from injury. I would just have to see how he looked. Coming on at this point kind of reminds me of that guy we got from Portland to double Shack at Center. Forgot that guy's name was it Jamal something? Edit it was Joel
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 0:15:44 GMT -5
How about grabbing Boogey from the Rockets? That solves the bench C problem! or are you all to sour on his attitude? I would take him. Or Gordon or Tucker
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 1:57:24 GMT -5
There's really no need for Cousins.
Celts already have enough bigs.
What the Celts need right now is a better PF than GWill and Semi.
Portis would've been perfect, but because of what he did to Mirotic, Danny will stay away from him.
Ever since that Delonte West-Von Wafer incident, Ainge has stayed away from players who need anger management.
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Post by croc on Jan 14, 2021 4:28:57 GMT -5
I’m all set with oladipo on this team. They don’t need another inefficient scorer I would be excited if we landed him Me too, maybe not as much as Scal..Who said they'd be a favorite. Even with Kemba on the team, (I swear my windshield wipers say Ola deep o) they can use another shooter and ball handler.
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Post by croc on Jan 14, 2021 4:33:42 GMT -5
There's really no need for Cousins. Celts already have enough bigs. What the Celts need right now is a better PF than GWill and Semi. Portis would've been perfect, but because of what he did to Mirotic, Danny will stay away from him. Ever since that Delonte West-Von Wafer incident, Ainge has stayed away from players who need anger management. You mean like a guy biting biting a hand when they're trying to poke them in the eyes?
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 7:46:46 GMT -5
9 mins ago – via Chris Haynes @ Yahoo! Sports
Vincent Goodwill: I talked to someone earlier today, an executive who knows people who are really close to Kyrie. He told me, “Kyrie is acting like he did his last year in Boston. Where he wasn’t he’s not talking to guys.” He’s not necessarily disassociated, but there’s a disconnect between himself and his teammates.
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 7:49:08 GMT -5
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:00:02 GMT -5
I read yesterday Kyrie is pulling a hissy fit because he was not involved in selecting the new coach, and he didn't want Nash............good grief
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Post by cole on Jan 14, 2021 11:14:11 GMT -5
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:18:43 GMT -5
Multiple executives believe the Rockets will eventually trade PJ Tucker by the trade deadline. “I think Houston can move PJ in a separate deal later,” one executive told HoopsHype. “He will have value in the East, especially to combat Giannis and Durant. I can see Miami going after PJ and maybe even Boston.” – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype Top Rumors, Trade, PJ Tucker, Boston Celtics, Houston Rockets, Miami Heat
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:19:08 GMT -5
Multiple Eastern Conference executives believe the writing is on the wall for Drummond’s future in Cleveland after the team gave up a first-round pick to acquire Allen, who is five years younger. Drummond will become an unrestricted free agent after the season. “Drummond is definitely out of Cleveland,” one Eastern Conference executive predicted. “Cleveland wouldn’t give up a first if they didn’t want Allen long-term.” – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype Top Rumors, Free Agency, Trade, Andre Drummond, Cleveland Cavaliers
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:19:43 GMT -5
The Rockets may not be done trading, either. The Athletic’s Kelly Iko reported that multiple teams have inquired about lockdown defender P.J. Tucker. Two league sources tell me Tucker’s value around the league is the range of three second-round picks. – via Kevin O'Connor @ The Ringer Top Rumors, Trade, PJ Tucker, Houston Rockets
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:20:12 GMT -5
The Nets and 76ers were the two teams battling it out for Harden’s services at the end of the race, but Philly felt the Rockets were using them as leverage to extract as many assets from the Nets, Harden’s preferred destination, a league source told HoopsHype. – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype Top Rumors, Trade, James Harden, Brooklyn Nets, Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:20:42 GMT -5
The inclusion of the 24-year-old Simmons did not sway the Houston Rockets away from the offer from the Brooklyn Nets, where Harden ultimately landed. “The Rockets were looking at one other serious suitor: the 76ers,” The Athletic’s Shams Charania reported on NBA TV. “They did put Ben Simmons in their proposal. But at the end of the day, the Nets’ total offer just supplanted that.” – via Clutch Points Trade, Ben Simmons, James Harden, Brooklyn Nets, Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers
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