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Post by Cabutan on Nov 14, 2019 14:36:02 GMT -5
Its crystal clear. Kyrie has been exposed. There is an instilled pride on fierce part and i get it. But it is clear. Kyrie is trouble. Is a cancer.
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Post by drewski6 on Nov 14, 2019 14:39:39 GMT -5
It's certainly hard to argue that the rest of the team coincidentally all regressed at the same time (as opposed to being brought down by an outside factor). It's also had to argue that such "outside factor" was not Kyrie.
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Post by puddin on Nov 14, 2019 14:43:28 GMT -5
fiercy cannot bring himself to acknowledge that he was dead wrong about resigning a cancerous KI and then using Kyrie to lure an unhappy AD to Beantown in return to giving up on at least two (and maybe all three) of Smart/Tatum/Brown.
What could go wrong??
chit4brains fiercy has a Trumpian unwillingness to acknowledge his wrongheadedness... so don't hold your breath.
What he follows up with are denial, misdirection, falsehoods and obfuscation of the plainly obvious.
Pud
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Post by fierce on Nov 14, 2019 19:27:26 GMT -5
Fierce give it up in your clusterfucked arguments pro and against kyrie. You were always pro kyrie and now you see the others being the issue, not kyrie. He is a talente ball hog with the worst attitude in the nba as it stands. Like I said, Kyrie was the problem, I never disagreed with that. But last season you kept saying the Celts should never pay a PG lots of money because the PG is just supposed to bring the ball upcourt. You kept saying the PG should not shoot a lot and that the PG should run the offense instead of being the offense. This season Kemba is shooting a lot and he's being paid 34m per year. My question to you is why aren't you complaining the Celts gave a PG who shoots a lot 34m per year? What happened to your principle of the PG should be a facilitator and should not be getting a lot of money?
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Post by fierce on Nov 14, 2019 19:33:55 GMT -5
Its crystal clear. Kyrie has been exposed. There is an instilled pride on fierce part and i get it. But it is clear. Kyrie is trouble. Is a cancer. I agree with you on that. Kyrie is trouble because not everybody can get along with Kyrie. But that's not the issue here. The issue is you kept saying the PG should be a facilitator and should not be getting a lot of money. Kemba is not a facilitator and he's getting 34m per year. Have you changed your stance about what a PG should be?
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Post by cole on Nov 14, 2019 19:42:20 GMT -5
Its crystal clear. Kyrie has been exposed. There is an instilled pride on fierce part and i get it. But it is clear. Kyrie is trouble. Is a cancer. Isn't that also what he's saying?
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Post by puddin on Nov 14, 2019 20:28:24 GMT -5
With Kemba..... "This is the team we expected to see last year"... with Kyrie
Pud
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Post by cole on Nov 14, 2019 20:32:48 GMT -5
How much better would we be with Al? Be glad when people quit over crediting him too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 20:47:59 GMT -5
How much better would we be with Al? Be glad when people quit over crediting him too. Not any better our offense can get down the court faster. Less of those high picks a rolls that teams were catching on to are gone.... He's getting old and starting to show.. Were a much mobile team with him and Morris... Might have lost a little D .....
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Post by fierce on Nov 14, 2019 22:38:38 GMT -5
It was time to move on from Horford.
Yeah, maybe Celts lost a little D, but Ainge can correct that on or before the trade deadline.
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 14, 2019 22:39:40 GMT -5
Midgets got the job done tonight. Kemba with 25 and Carsen with 18. Great stuff! Well lets not jinx it. The real test is by playoffs time. We all here know that comes playoffs, midgets get their lanes closed by taller guys and they becomes useless. We have seen it over and over ever since IT came here. I hope thats not the case with kemba but i am not even sure if he even has playoff experience?? Also, you said in the offseason that we were going to be mediocre if we didnt sign kyrie back. Its a long season. I love this team. Lets see. Stop talking sense...
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 14, 2019 22:41:55 GMT -5
Well lets not jinx it. The real test is by playoffs time. We all here know that comes playoffs, midgets get their lanes closed by taller guys and they becomes useless. We have seen it over and over ever since IT came here. I hope thats not the case with kemba but i am not even sure if he even has playoff experience?? Also, you said in the offseason that we were going to be mediocre if we didnt sign kyrie back. Its a long season. I love this team. Lets see. If some had their way, diva KI would have been resigned and teamed up with an unhappy AD (yearning to be in LA) to give us a one year window to winning #18... and we would have given up great young talent in the process.
Short sighted pursuit of a ring that likely would have imploded.... leaving this franchise in a deep, deep hole, facing yet another rebuild.
Pud
And again...stop talking sense...(btw, that is a name of a song from back in the day, for the yutes in the crowd..)
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 14, 2019 23:00:28 GMT -5
What is crazy is that the Celts have won nine in a row and they dont even register in the national media...
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 15, 2019 8:07:48 GMT -5
How much better would we be with Al? Be glad when people quit over crediting him too. yes. Dont miss him one bit.
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Post by puddin on Nov 15, 2019 8:53:24 GMT -5
What is crazy is that the Celts have won nine in a row and they dont even register in the national media... Good deal.... this team needs to fly right under the radar.
Who knows... they may get swell heads when reading they are the next big thing.
Stay humble, amigos!
Pud
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Post by puddin on Nov 15, 2019 8:56:09 GMT -5
How much better would we be with Al? Be glad when people quit over crediting him too. yes. Dont miss him one bit. Big Al would be a great 6th man coming off the bench in a year or three.
Pud
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 15, 2019 8:59:10 GMT -5
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Post by elvissurfs on Nov 15, 2019 9:16:05 GMT -5
Wow, if I was pushed like that I might have just dropped Kyrie on the spot...
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Post by fierce on Nov 15, 2019 9:23:46 GMT -5
Wow, if I was pushed like that I might have just dropped Kyrie on the spot... Like I what I keep saying, last season's problem was not because of ball movement or whatever basketball related. The problem was Kyrie. His teammates simply don't like him. It was more personal than basketball related. This season, Kemba's shooting a lot, just like Kyrie. But teammates and fans are not complaining. And reason for that is Kemba's a very likable guy.
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 15, 2019 9:30:56 GMT -5
🤦♂️
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 15, 2019 9:31:49 GMT -5
De ni al
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 15, 2019 9:34:27 GMT -5
No fierce. The problem is not the other guys not liking kyrie. The problem is kyrie, period. Kemba does not shoot as much as kyrie, does not hold the ball like kyrie. Listen, easy, ill let a pro explain it to you.
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Post by fierce on Nov 15, 2019 9:35:35 GMT -5
How come it's denial when I already agreed with you that the problem was Kyrie? Look at the stats of Kemba now. Kemba's attempting 18 shots per game, similar to Kyrie's 18.5 FGAs last season. The shooting percentage is even lower for Kemba, 42%, compared to Kyrie's 48.7% last season. And the assists, Kemba's only averaging 4.6 assists per game, Kyrie was 6.9 assists per game last season. Clearly Kyrie was more efficient. But the problem was Kyrie didn't have chemistry with his Celtics teammates.
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Post by fierce on Nov 15, 2019 9:38:49 GMT -5
No fierce. The problem is not the other guys not liking kyrie. The problem is kyrie, period. Kemba does not shoot as much as kyrie, does not hold the ball like kyrie. Listen, easy, ill let a pro explain it to you. Fine! The problem is Kyrie, period! Now, my question to you is what happened to your theory of the PG should be the facilitator and should not be paid lots of money? We're done with Kyrie, he's not a Celtic anymore. But last season you said what the Celts need was a PG that could run the offense and not be the offense. This season the Celts are better even with a shoot first PG like Kemba. It's true Kyrie was ball-dominant, he wanted to control the offense. But the shooting numbers don't lie. Kyrie was attempting 18.5 shot attempts per game last season.This season, Kemba's attempting 18 shots per game.The difference is the Celts are winning this season.
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Post by Cabutan on Nov 15, 2019 9:46:18 GMT -5
No fierce. The problem is not the other guys not liking kyrie. The problem is kyrie, period. Kemba does not shoot as much as kyrie, does not hold the ball like kyrie. Listen, easy, ill let a pro explain it to you. Fine! The problem is Kyrie, period! Now, my question to you is what happened to your theory of the PG should be the facilitator and should not be paid lots of money? We're done with Kyrie, he's not a Celtic anymore. But last season you said what the Celts need was a PG that could run the offense and not be the offense. This season the Celts are better even with a shoot first PG like Kemba. It's true Kyrie was ball-dominant, he wanted to control the offense. But the shooting numbers don't lie. Kyrie was attempting 18.5 shot attempts per game last season.This season, Kemba's attempting 18 shots per game.The difference is the Celts are winning this season. still stand by it and its out of my control. I rather pay a forward big bucks than a PG. However that does not mean i am unhappy with kemba since we are winning. Still max money to a PG to me does not make sense
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