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Post by puddin on Mar 8, 2019 10:56:03 GMT -5
Kevin Garnett 3 rebounds, Pierce 5 for 15, Ray Allen 3 for 14, this is why we lost game seven!! Apparently according to conspiracy nuts, we lost Game 7 because the fix was in.
Clearly!!!!
But why did we lose Game 6 in Beantown??
The fix was in once again....
Clearly!!!!
The league and their hatchet men (aka:NBA refs) hated us!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 12:02:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 12:08:49 GMT -5
Can anyone explain why just this week Stevens and Irving finally had a long sit down talk.??
This i expected long ago the season is winding down.
Give me a buzz when Stevens raises a banner. I'll be at Fenway sucking down warm expensive beer with a real coach named Cora.
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Post by cole on Mar 8, 2019 12:12:37 GMT -5
Not until the playoffs at least. I'm not saying the NBA hates us. I'm saying they try to spread the wealth a little, and this year it's not our turn IN THE REGULAR SEASON. Maybe the nba wants us to do better in the playoffs.
And yes I think there's a room of owners sworn to secrecy that do discuss these things cryptically. Remember, the league shares revenue and different owners have different models.
And when did I say all our problems this year are the refs fault?
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Post by Cabutan on Mar 8, 2019 14:08:45 GMT -5
Can anyone explain why just this week Stevens and Irving finally had a long sit down talk.?? Unreal that it took so long. BS probably didnt sleep thinking that he needed to have a man talk .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 14:27:57 GMT -5
So the bias is against a particular style of play... and not against a team that is targeted.
OK... players and teams can make adjustments based on how the game is being called.
I can see that.
If I'm reading him correctly, Cole seems to think that the bias is against a particular team or teams for reasons unclear but profoundly important and effective, done behind a curtain at the league office and enforced thru collusion with the refs.
The notion that "We were robbed" ??
In the 2010 case the "we" were the Celtics who held a 3-2 advantage and a chance to finish off the Lakers in game 6 in Beantown .... and simply failed to show.
Or were we "robbed" in game 6 too... to set up game 7 and another Laker championship?
We didn't deserve to win in 2010 IMHO. To say otherwise and to blame it on the refs suggests that Celtic fans were simply poor losers... and I said so at the time.
To say otherwise makes the entire league a fraud and not worth watching.
Yet those who complain the most about conspiracies continue to watch, perhaps waiting for a crazy call or two to confirm what they already believe.
That the system is rigged against them... and only them.
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I don't disagree with your comments here. Not that the Celts didn't deserve to win. Artest kneeing Ray Allen when he was on fire was a very dirty play. Then Perkins got sandwiched and hurt his knee. The 2nd one I am OK with. We were giving the same treatment to Gasol in 2008 when Bynum was hurt. But the 1st incident made a difference.
Game 7 was not on the refs. Celts were over matched physically and just had to foul. The Lakers played well when needed. Stupid Artest had a game to remember. Too bad, it hurt a lot. But the Lakers won that game and the series.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 14:29:54 GMT -5
Kevin Garnett 3 rebounds, Pierce 5 for 15, Ray Allen 3 for 14, this is why we lost game seven!! Apparently according to conspiracy nuts, we lost Game 7 because the fix was in.
Clearly!!!!
But why did we lose Game 6 in Beantown??
The fix was in once again....
Clearly!!!!
The league and their hatchet men (aka:NBA refs) hated us!!
Pud
Game 6 was in LA. We lost Game 3 at home after returning with the Series tied 1-1.
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Post by puddin on Mar 8, 2019 14:33:00 GMT -5
Not until the playoffs at least. I'm not saying the NBA hates us. I'm saying they try to spread the wealth a little, and this year it's not our turn IN THE REGULAR SEASON. Maybe the nba wants us to do better in the playoffs. And yes I think there's a room of owners sworn to secrecy that do discuss these things cryptically. Remember, the league shares revenue and different owners have different models. And when did I say all our problems this year are the refs fault? Cole:
You keep suggesting that you have special insight about what is going on in secret behind the curtains in the league office and among owners
You are suggesting that everything is rigged to some degree and that the league office picks favorites as it puts it thumb on the scale.
When cornered and asked for specifics about league fraud, you simply talk in riddles and throw out a few anecdotes.
When you have something concrete beyond 4Q Game 7, 2010 to actually prove your points....... let me know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 14:36:42 GMT -5
Not until the playoffs at least. I'm not saying the NBA hates us. I'm saying they try to spread the wealth a little, and this year it's not our turn IN THE REGULAR SEASON. Maybe the nba wants us to do better in the playoffs. And yes I think there's a room of owners sworn to secrecy that do discuss these things cryptically. Remember, the league shares revenue and different owners have different models. And when did I say all our problems this year are the refs fault?No you did not. You are saying that it does not help that the refs are not calling the games fairly.
I don't like some of the things that the refs do. You get contact on the layup. No foul if you hit the layup. Foul if you miss. Helps more physical and less skilled players. We are in the 2nd group.
I agree that Giannis is being build up. LeBron is fading and NBA does not have a new iconic player. He is the most visually attractive candidate. Lets build him up. But it will be very unfair to the freak to not acknowledge that he is special. He may get 5-10% more breaks than others. But he is not great because of the breaks. He gets the breaks because he is so good.
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Post by puddin on Mar 8, 2019 14:41:35 GMT -5
Apparently according to conspiracy nuts, we lost Game 7 because the fix was in.
Clearly!!!!
But why did we lose Game 6 in Beantown??
The fix was in once again....
Clearly!!!!
The league and their hatchet men (aka:NBA refs) hated us!!
Pud
Game 6 was in LA. We lost Game 3 at home after returning with the Series tied 1-1. I stand corrected.... we got blown out in LA in game 6 by a score of 89-67.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 15:02:43 GMT -5
Game 6 was in LA. We lost Game 3 at home after returning with the Series tied 1-1. I stand corrected.... we got blown out in LA in game 6 by a score of 89-67.
Pud
That was the game where Perk blew out his knee. The Celts were not able to adjust dynamically and did not recover. I am seriously bummed about Game 3. As you said, we didn't show up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 16:27:26 GMT -5
Not until the playoffs at least. I'm not saying the NBA hates us. I'm saying they try to spread the wealth a little, and this year it's not our turn IN THE REGULAR SEASON. Maybe the nba wants us to do better in the playoffs. And yes I think there's a room of owners sworn to secrecy that do discuss these things cryptically. Remember, the league shares revenue and different owners have different models. And when did I say all our problems this year are the refs fault? And when did I say all our problems this year are the refs fault? If your refering to my comments. I wasn't thinking about you and i happen to agree with you somewhat at least. You do seem to give Stevens a little too much rope to my liking but thats par on course for half the people here. Was 1% now its about 50% im making more progress than Stevens it seems.
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Post by cole on Mar 8, 2019 16:29:17 GMT -5
Not until the playoffs at least. I'm not saying the NBA hates us. I'm saying they try to spread the wealth a little, and this year it's not our turn IN THE REGULAR SEASON. Maybe the nba wants us to do better in the playoffs. And yes I think there's a room of owners sworn to secrecy that do discuss these things cryptically. Remember, the league shares revenue and different owners have different models. And when did I say all our problems this year are the refs fault? And when did I say all our problems this year are the refs fault? If your refering to my comments. I wasn't thinking about you and i happen to agree with you somewhat at least. You do seem to give Stevens a little too much rope to my liking but thats par on course for half the people here. Was 1% now its about 50% im making more progress than Stevens it seems. No, part of the conversation with pud
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 16:33:22 GMT -5
Can anyone explain why just this week Stevens and Irving finally had a long sit down talk.?? Unreal that it took so long. BS probably didnt sleep thinking that he needed to have a man talk . Well while he was tossing and turning one would think he would have come up with a new plan. I'm about sick of the blindess here regarding Stevens and Ainge Think ill set out for a while like the Doc .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 16:36:08 GMT -5
I thought so Cole. I want no part of this argument because i respect you both and i don't want to turn on the asshole mode anymore which is where i usualy end up.
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Post by cole on Mar 8, 2019 16:39:39 GMT -5
I'm not trying to convince anyone. He wants to know my position and I'm trying to explain why I feel as I do. Others don't have to agree with me.
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Post by puddin on Mar 8, 2019 16:54:53 GMT -5
Unreal that it took so long. BS probably didnt sleep thinking that he needed to have a man talk . Well while he was tossing and turning one would think he would have come up with a new plan. I'm about sick of the blindess here regarding Stevens and Ainge Think ill set out for a while like the Doc . Peewee.... when the Cs are losing, the rest of us may look "blind".
However, when the Cs are winning, you're the one who looks "blind".
That's life in a sports forum.
Accept it.
Things will come out in the wash.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 17:00:52 GMT -5
Yea i know that's fine.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 17:07:34 GMT -5
Well while he was tossing and turning one would think he would have come up with a new plan. I'm about sick of the blindess here regarding Stevens and Ainge Think ill set out for a while like the Doc . Peewee.... when the Cs are losing, the rest of us may look "blind".
However, when the Cs are winning, you're the one who looks "blind".
That's life in a sports forum.
Accept it.
Things will come out in the wash.
Pud
Not exactly Pud. 8 games ago i predicted we would be 6 and 6 at best the next 12 games. We are 3 and 5 through 8 and have a real shot at going 6 and 6 maybe. This is documented . The wash? Ok ill take one send her over please.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 17:09:24 GMT -5
Two just in case you have a bad eye.
You do know this old flick?
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Post by puddin on Mar 8, 2019 17:47:09 GMT -5
Peewee.... when the Cs are losing, the rest of us may look "blind".
However, when the Cs are winning, you're the one who looks "blind".
That's life in a sports forum.
Accept it.
Things will come out in the wash.
Pud
Not exactly Pud. 8 games ago i predicted we would be 6 and 6 at best the next 12 games. We are 3 and 5 through 8 and have a real shot at going 6 and 6 maybe. This is documented . The wash? Ok ill take one send her over please. Not exactly but close enough. You get the picture.
No one seems more satisfied than you when the Cs hit a bad patch.
Conversely, no one is quieter than you when the Cs are playing well.
You've staked your position quite clearly... and we'll see how things wash out for you.
I allow myself a bit more wiggling room in most things than you.
That's because the older I get, the better my judgment and the less sure I am that I actually know what I am talking about.
To paraphrase Twain, good judgment comes from experience....
...while experience results from.....
Who knew?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:21:52 GMT -5
I expected this . Why have i been quiet?
1 Two games i didn't watch way past my bedtime.
2 Packing and preparing for all out war in Nicalandia.
3 I comment consisantly even in wins i always have something negative to say you know that.
Yea well judgement Ok.
The real problem here are people like you go up and down game to game. Small sample size and with real reluctance to look and the long term trend. I've been consistent finally what i have stated for 2 years s becoming to be evident to others and not just me.
Some folks here remind me of Mexican Jumping Beans . No doubt old age has made you wiser its also made you cautious. I'm not.
Key lesson here. Small sample sizes are like small wennies. No one wants them.
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Post by puddin on Mar 8, 2019 19:44:48 GMT -5
I expected this . Why have i been quiet? 1 Two games i didn't watch way past my bedtime. 2 Packing and preparing for all out war in Nicalandia. 3 I comment consisantly even in wins i always have something negative to say you know that. Yea well judgement Ok. The real problem here are people like you go up and down game to game. Small sample size and with real reluctance to look and the long term trend. I've been consistent finally what i have stated for 2 years s becoming to be evident to others and not just me. Some folks here remind me of Mexican Jumping Beans . No doubt old age has made you wiser its also made you cautious. I'm not. Key lesson here. Small sample sizes are like small wennies. No one wants them.
A roaring lion and a quiet church mouse.
Same fan.... different moods.
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 8, 2019 21:18:37 GMT -5
Two just in case you have a bad eye. You do know this old flick? Cool Hand Luke...
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Post by cole on Mar 8, 2019 22:32:24 GMT -5
Two just in case you have a bad eye. You do know this old flick? Cool Hand Luke... Seen it 3 or 4 times, don't remember that. Was thinking Kill Bill 1
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