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Post by fierce on Dec 12, 2018 23:58:20 GMT -5
Besides Horford, Celts were also without Hayward and Brown. Those 2 players are also averaging double digits in scoring. Nothing is easy for this Celts team. It was only 7 games ago that the Celts were just a .500 team. Right now the Raptors are 57-41 against GSW. GSW is supposed to be cruising because the Raptors don't have Kawhi. The NBA is not as simple as ABC. That's why the games are played. well gsw are crumbling as of late. So. Thats not surprising. You can also say the Celts were crumbling 7 games ago. The point is Kyrie's heroics gave the Celts the win and you refuse to give credit where credit is due.
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Post by Cabutan on Dec 12, 2018 23:59:30 GMT -5
well gsw are crumbling as of late. So. Thats not surprising. You can also say the Celts were crumbling 7 games ago. The point is Kyrie's heroics gave the Celts the win and you refuse to give credit where credit is due. OMG. You definitely earned the title. Bye dude. You definitely are a retard
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Post by fierce on Dec 13, 2018 0:02:28 GMT -5
You can also say the Celts were crumbling 7 games ago. The point is Kyrie's heroics gave the Celts the win and you refuse to give credit where credit is due. OMG. You definitely earned the title. Bye dude. You definitely are a retard I just gave you an example of how the NBA is not as simple as ABC. What doesn't make sense is the Celts are on the road, missing 3 key players, and you're insisting that the Celts should have been cruising instead of winning via Kyrie heroics. That's as lame as you can get.
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Post by fierce on Dec 13, 2018 0:04:54 GMT -5
re·tard verb /riˈtärd/Submit 1. delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
Who sounds more like a retard, the one saying Kyrie is a superstar or the one saying the Celts are better off trading Kyrie and making Rozier the starting PG of the Celts?
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Post by puddin on Dec 13, 2018 5:24:53 GMT -5
re·tardverb /riˈtärd/Submit 1. delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.Who sounds more like a retard, the one saying Kyrie is a superstar or the one saying the Celts are better off trading Kyrie and making Rozier the starting PG of the Celts? Well it really depends on whom we can get for superstar KI in a trade.
Last season we did just super w/o superstar KI while Rozier filled the void.
Despite KI's heroics tonight.... Marcus Smart doing the dirty work was POG and had the truly monster game.... not Kyrie.
Cs can and have done fine w/o KI.... but not w/o a healthy #36.
Smart playing at a very high level is the real story here.
Pud
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Post by Cabutan on Dec 13, 2018 9:05:09 GMT -5
Smart played every position yesterday. But explaining things to fierce is a lost cause perhaps because of his condition.
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Post by puddin on Dec 13, 2018 9:18:51 GMT -5
NBA Defensive AS Team this season...
Pud
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Post by sfbosfan on Dec 13, 2018 9:38:40 GMT -5
It will be extremely important to see how we play Toronto in the next meeting. They beat GS by 20 in Oakland without Leonard and won against the clippers by 21 in previous game. I didn't research but they beat GS also at home and I think it was a 20 point trashing too. We need beat them and I'd like a 10 + spread to make a statement. We think we are going to meet GS in the finals but Toronto will be a major obstacle.
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Post by fierce on Dec 13, 2018 10:26:34 GMT -5
Smart played every position yesterday. But explaining things to fierce is a lost cause perhaps because of his condition. Smart played one hell of a game. No one here is saying Smart was not relevant last night. But the thing is you said the Celts were supposed to be cruising and the Celts should have not needed Kyrie's heroics. Now you're going to move the goal post by shifting the focus on Marcus Smart? All of Smart's effort last night would've been for naught if Kyrie didn't make those two 3-pointers that won it for the Celts.
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Post by fierce on Dec 13, 2018 10:33:40 GMT -5
It must be so hard enjoying a Celtic game if you don't like Kyrie Irving.
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Post by Cabutan on Dec 13, 2018 10:34:07 GMT -5
Smart played every position yesterday. But explaining things to fierce is a lost cause perhaps because of his condition. Smart played one hell of a game. No one here is saying Smart was not relevant last night. But the thing is you said the Celts were supposed to be cruising and the Celts should have not needed Kyrie's heroics. Now you're going to move the goal post by shifting the focus on Marcus Smart? All of Smart's effort last night would've been for naught if Kyrie didn't make those two 3-pointers that won it for the Celts. and i will say it again. We should have cruised
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Post by Cabutan on Dec 13, 2018 10:36:31 GMT -5
It must be so hard enjoying a Celtic game if you don't like Kyrie Irving. haaaa you cann scroll back to my threads and in no post i say i dislike kyrie. Once again, putting words on peoples mouths. Thats your signature. Thats where the signs of retardation show. Then you said you would trade half of the bench for vucevic. Now you come here and gloat because a guy hit winning shots when we should have swiftly won?? Thats hilarious. I am gonna call you Special Needs. That should be your nick
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Post by cole on Dec 13, 2018 10:49:41 GMT -5
We won. Milwaukee lost.
Toronto popped the struggling (by their standards) warriors though.
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Post by sfbosfan on Dec 13, 2018 11:12:25 GMT -5
Many compare Irving to Curry. I’d rather have Irving as more versatile. Curry mostly known as a 3pt shooter Although he does drive to the basket on occasion. But last night the superstar’s performance was one of the reasons Toronto dominated. He was 3 for 12 and 2 for 8 3pt for only 10 pts. Durant’s great performance not enough to carry them. I like balanced scoring with 2 players over 20 pts and 4-5 in double figures.
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Post by cole on Dec 13, 2018 11:31:47 GMT -5
Irving at least CAN play some D if he has to in short bursts. If the refs allow the opposing team to bang steph around he becomes a defensive liability close to what IT was. Personally I think steph is a little overrated. I'd take Klay over him in a new york minute.
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Post by puddin on Dec 13, 2018 11:32:58 GMT -5
Smart played every position yesterday. But explaining things to fierce is a lost cause perhaps because of his condition. Smart played one hell of a game. No one here is saying Smart was not relevant last night. But the thing is you said the Celts were supposed to be cruising and the Celts should have not needed Kyrie's heroics. Now you're going to move the goal post by shifting the focus on Marcus Smart?All of Smart's effort last night would've been for naught if Kyrie didn't make those two 3-pointers that won it for the Celts. I brought up Smart... not Christey.
And Christey simply agreed.
Cs should have cruised. They didn't.... and needed the late heroics from KI.
Pud
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Post by puddin on Dec 13, 2018 11:41:15 GMT -5
The most compelling reason to keep Kyrie may be that he helps lure Anthony Davis to Beantown.
Pud
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Post by cole on Dec 13, 2018 11:53:25 GMT -5
For me it's as simple as, the nba marketing department would love Uncle Drew 2 to come out featuring the nba champion. That means gasol and bynum won't be allowed to jump over our backs to sell a couple million more tshirts.
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Post by drewski6 on Dec 13, 2018 12:35:52 GMT -5
Ive agreed with Fierce and Ive disagreed with him as well. But I still like Fierce. Ive agreed with Chris and disagreed with Chris, but I still like Chris.
This is a place where opinionated Celtics fans come to discuss/debate. When it devolves into bickering, it kind of takes away from the subject/content of the debate.
As Admin points out, Chris isnt the only one thinking that Kyrie might be in the way of this team reaching its true potential. I dont agree at all, and happen to think that without Kyrie, this team would be a 4-6 team in the East. Despite our record, I think with Kyrie, we are a top 2 team in the East. But Chris isnt alone in his thoughts, so Im not going to pretend like his opinion has no credibility, when there are others saying what he is saying as well.
I still think that this is a league dominated by stars, and Kyrie is every bit a superstar. We'd miss him if he left. I dont think its fair to assume that just because we got to ECF without Kyrie, we could do it again. Guys played above their heads last year, and lets face it. Even if we got to the finals, we werent standing a chance against GS last year without Kyrie.
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Post by drewski6 on Dec 13, 2018 12:38:52 GMT -5
Ive always thought that this team, as currently constructed, can win a championship this year. Even before our recent winning streak. And I think for a championship to happen, its going to take contributions from: Kyrie, Hayward, Horford, Tatum, Brown, Morris, Smart.
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Post by Cabutan on Dec 13, 2018 12:48:51 GMT -5
Ive agreed with Fierce and Ive disagreed with him as well. But I still like Fierce. Ive agreed with Chris and disagreed with Chris, but I still like Chris. This is a place where opinionated Celtics fans come to discuss/debate. When it devolves into bickering, it kind of takes away from the subject/content of the debate. As Admin points out, Chris isnt the only one thinking that Kyrie might be in the way of this team reaching its true potential. I dont agree at all, and happen to think that without Kyrie, this team would be a 4-6 team in the East. Despite our record, I think with Kyrie, we are a top 2 team in the East. But Chris isnt alone in his thoughts, so Im not going to pretend like his opinion has no credibility, when there are others saying what he is saying as well. I still think that this is a league dominated by stars, and Kyrie is every bit a superstar. We'd miss him if he left. I dont think its fair to assume that just because we got to ECF without Kyrie, we could do it again. Guys played above their heads last year, and lets face it. Even if we got to the finals, we werent standing a chance against GS last year without Kyrie. you got that and thanks. But also maybe i have not explained myself well enough. I like Kyrie, our run was in part because of lineup changes and the PG task was distributed to others such as Smart, Hayward. I am not against Kyrie, I would trade him the same way I would trade Rozier. I just never thought PGs as necessary when all they need to do is bring the ball down. On our successful run, Kyrie has assumed the role of playing SG, thats fine with me. It works better with this team. Last game he went back into his yoyo state and shoot first. Thats where i have a problem. Same with me having an issue with Rozier shooting 3s without moving the ball which he did yesterday. Why wouldnt i pay Kyrie to stay, simple, GH could give us the scoring KI gets us and we could use that money elsewhere. I agree with Pud in that Kyrie might be the piece to lure Davis. Now, if you ask me, would Kyrie hand in the torch to Davis?? I doubt it. Anyways. Its nothing against Kyries skills, is his approach to the game specially coming to Boston. He assumed the leader role when i initially thought (before he was traded in) that that role was for GH. Needless to say, the leader still is Smart, and to my point, his contract is more than acceptable.
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Post by Cabutan on Dec 13, 2018 12:52:21 GMT -5
Irving at least CAN play some D if he has to in short bursts. If the refs allow the opposing team to bang steph around he becomes a defensive liability close to what IT was. Personally I think steph is a little overrated. I'd take Klay over him in a new york minute. i was going to say the same thing about Curry and Klay. Perhaps because i am a fan of Klays game more of Curry (another PG body playing SG). But i always said, take Klay away and you will find GS struggling. Thats just my take.
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Post by fierce on Dec 13, 2018 12:55:12 GMT -5
Really, chris?
You said multiple times that you would trade Kyrie and keep Rozier.
Now that some of the posters here are saying Kyrie is a superstar and the Celts are not better off without him, you flip-flop!
If Kyrie is the "Ultimate Closer", you're the ULTIMATE FLIP-FLOPPER!
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Post by fierce on Dec 13, 2018 12:57:00 GMT -5
Why wouldnt i pay Kyrie to stay, simple, GH could give us the scoring KI gets us and we could use that money elsewhere. I agree with Pud in that Kyrie might be the piece to lure Davis.
That's just ridiculous!
pud is on my ignore list for more than a year now because he says things like that.
The point of getting Anthony Davis is to pair him with Kyrie.
What a stupid move it would be if you just swap superstars.
Just look at the Pels, the Pels are going nowhere because Anthony Davis is the only special player on that team!
And you really think the Pels are retarded enough to trade for Kyrie knowing that Kyrie won't re-sign with them?
Stop the hate on Kyrie because it's clouding your judgement!
Also, you wouldn't pay Kyrie? That's funny because you're not the owner of the Boston Celtics.
Kyrie Irving is not going anywhere. Celtic ownership and Danny Ainge are not stupid.
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Post by Cabutan on Dec 13, 2018 13:04:47 GMT -5
Is it me or Special needs doesnt understand?
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