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Post by sfbosfan on Apr 26, 2018 21:35:37 GMT -5
Live by the three, die by the three ... 30.3% (10-33) (36.8% overall 28-76) YUP...for many seasons we have needed a dominate scorer in the post and Horford ain’t it. SOX WON... I’m outta here . LIKE THE BRUINS WE NEED #7 at home.
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Post by Cabutan on Apr 26, 2018 21:35:42 GMT -5
Bah. We need offsense, BS inserts semi. Rozier latest one to do thehero ball crap
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Post by elvissurfs on Apr 26, 2018 21:39:52 GMT -5
Well kids, there are always the B's and the Sox if we cant get out of round one...a bit shocking, except that the league wants the 'creep' to move on...hope like heck we get into the next round, but the way I see it, the league wants the 'creep' to move on and knows we will be there next year...too bad, cuz these guys have overachieved (coach?!?!?!)...
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Post by elvissurfs on Apr 26, 2018 21:51:55 GMT -5
BS must be bumming to be 14-20 in playoff games...can you imagine if he ever had good players?...
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Post by Admin on Apr 26, 2018 22:01:20 GMT -5
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Post by elvissurfs on Apr 26, 2018 22:05:32 GMT -5
friggin pathetic if we don't get out of the first round...totally dictated by the league cuz of the 'geek'...agro boy...
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Post by kyceltic on Apr 26, 2018 22:35:01 GMT -5
Like I been saying! We better not lose at home!!
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Post by elvissurfs on Apr 26, 2018 22:37:35 GMT -5
well KY...lets hope so...want to watch some more basketball...
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Post by cole on Apr 26, 2018 22:40:21 GMT -5
I believe the nba marketing department would love to see the bucks move on. Celtics have plenty to look forward to.
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Post by Cabutan on Apr 26, 2018 22:42:19 GMT -5
i have a problem with this statement. Its almost like "we were ready to settle for a game 7". Yes we have overachieved..but we could have beaten Milw on the road with better execution. Anyways. Ill say, let the best team win game 7.
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Post by hedleylamarr on Apr 26, 2018 23:43:47 GMT -5
Pathetic offensive performance. No one stepped up. I believe I mentioned after the second game of the year that MIL's length would give us trouble. And, it has. As well as Rozier has played, he is NOT, and I repeat, NOT Kyrie Irving. I hope everyone can see that trading Kyrie for anyone at this stage would be foolish. The series would be over and done if he was playing.
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Post by elvissurfs on Apr 27, 2018 9:05:35 GMT -5
I will say it again...Kyrie is so good that he makes it look easy, so people think it is, and therefore do not realize how good he is...he plays so fluid and casual, relaxed...like Ramirez batting in 2004, not caring if it was spring training or the World Series...
With Kyrie, we instantly became an elite team...
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Post by cole on Apr 27, 2018 10:44:44 GMT -5
Still, imagine we can play LeBron next round and make a showing. Then we add back our best 2 players? No wonder we're starting to be referred to as contenders for next year.
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Post by puddin on Apr 27, 2018 11:41:49 GMT -5
I will say it again...Kyrie is so good that he makes it look easy, so people think it is, and therefore do not realize how good he is...he plays so fluid and casual, relaxed...like Ramirez batting in 2004, not caring if it was spring training or the World Series...
With Kyrie, we instantly became an elite team... Unless KI feels a need to play hero ball, and coaches and teammates stand around and let him. At that point, we are a bit better than presently configured... but not elite. Getting every engaged, including KI is the ticket to ride. His current absence, in the long run will pay dividends, forcing others to step up to show what they have. Same same for Hayward. Pud
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Post by sfbosfan on Apr 27, 2018 11:52:36 GMT -5
Pathetic offensive performance. No one stepped up. I believe I mentioned after the second game of the year that MIL's length would give us trouble. And, it has. As well as Rozier has played, he is NOT, and I repeat, NOT Kyrie Irving. I hope everyone can see that trading Kyrie for anyone at this stage would be foolish. The series would be over and done if he was playing. I predicted that after game 5 the Greek Freak would come out with a vengeance and that he did, 31 Pts, 14 rebs and shot 13/23 or 57%. Recall in Game 5 he did shoot 50% but only 5 for 10, 10 Rebs and total 16 pts. I felt to win game 6 Horford would need play as well as he had already & get a triple double & be over 20 pts. Wanted like 20 from Rozier and Brown each and at least 15 from Tatum who only got 8 points. Also, despite -6 on TOs we had +13 extra chances on Rebs 50-37. In game 6 there was not a lot we could do with their shooting 51% (but our 37% was pathetic). But also what hurt was a switch in rebs where we got 39 to their 48 so they had 9 extra chances. We needed the reb advantage with our poor shooting %. TOs were even at 9 a piece. Horford who had been scoring about 20 only got 10 pts. Although I wanted 20 each from Rozier & Brown they did shoot 16 and 14 which was not terrible. And, where I was really happy, Tatum who only got 8 in game 5 got 22 points. To win Game 7 we should be at least 5% more shooting % on our home court. Horford, Rozier, Brown & Tatum to average 20 or 80 pts from those 4. Amazing to go from 50-37 (+13) game 5 to 39-48(-9) game 6 in Rebs. Need to be at least +5 in Rebs and our defense needs to have them be -5 in Turnovers. Greek Freak got 16 and 31 pts in games 5 and 6 respectively…let’s spit the difference and hold him to about 23-24 pts. Bledsoe has been so-so…hope he continues so-so. Middleton is a big threat and a very good player. Can’t just contain Giannis and let Middleton score 30+. Hope I am not asking too much from our boys. Go Bruins …..Go Sox !!!
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Post by Admin on Apr 27, 2018 12:38:03 GMT -5
Brad Stevens on stagnant Boston offense: “we gotta get it popping”Move. The. Ball.By wjsy Jeff Hanisch-USA TODAY SportsWe’re at Game 7 and there are no more adjustments to be made. Turnovers were the story when the series opened up in Boston. That’s been cleaned up by both teams. Milwaukee replaced Tony Snell with Malcolm Brogdon and eventually inserted Thon Maker into the starting lineup. Boston countered by going small with Semi Ojeleye and Stevens has played his wildcard with the return of Marcus Smart. And now we’re here after a Game 6 loss Thursday night. The overreaction will be to point to the wide margin in fast break points. The stats don’t necessarily lie: One of the biggest reasons to fear the deer is their murderous transition game with the Greek Freak filling the lane like Slenderman in a nightmare. Because of their size, the Bucks are going to get their easy buckets, but if Boston has any chance in Game 7, they have mitigate those easy points on the break. Like Stevens alluded to, fourteen of those points came off of Boston’s nine total turnovers, but they also missed 26 three-pointers that lead to long rebounds and leak outs. In other words, their defense might be a better offense at home. Thankfully, they’ve shot better at TD Garden than at The Bradley Center from behind the arc (38.6% vs. 31.5%), but the growing trend of shooting more and more threes as the series has progressed is a little troubling. Since Game 2, 3FGA’s have consistently increased from 24 to 29 to 31 to 36 while the percentages have conversely plummeted from 33.3% to 34.5% to 32.3% to 27.8%. Some of this is a reaction to the Bucks stifling the Celtics in the paint in Games 3 and 4 with 26 blocks, but the Bucks have also just defended better. They’ve been tightening the screws ever since Game 2 and Milwaukee played its best defense in Game 6. The Celtics can’t just rely on “making more shots at home.” There’s a confidence with some of the players that that will happen. Marcus Morris remarked: Jayson Tatum echoed that “sometimes the ball just doesn’t go in. I feel like we made the right plays on a number of different occasions. Great looks. They didn’t go down today, but hopefully they do Saturday.” Surely, there’s magic on the parquet and they’ll get some help from Red and the leprechauns somehow, but they’ll also need to move the ball better and be more aggressive. Stevens couldn’t be any clearer Thursday night: Boston’s offensive sets are built so that when a player receives the ball, he’s either getting it in space, in motion, or coming off a screen. The read has to be quick, the reaction even quicker. streamable.com/v21v5In all those scores, the cuts are deliberate and every dribble has purpose. Guys aren’t dancing with the ball and trying to break down defenders with a crossover. When Jayson Tatum finds Al Horford on the kick out, Horford makes the instantaneous jump pass to Jaylen Brown for the three. After Tatum finds Horford in the post, he zips back door for an and-1. When Tatum drives, Brown immediately fills a lane behind him. With Shane Larkin threatening to drive on the pick-and-pop, he finds Marcus Morris and Mook doesn’t hestitate to attack on the slower Jabari Parker. Quick, quick, quick. That’s what Boston will have to be in Game 7. Energy won’t be a problem on Saturday night. Here’s Horford on the expected atmosphere at the Garden in Game 7: t.co/V9qWYp3Jgo“As a basketball player/fan, one of the places you want to enjoy and be at is The Garden for a Game 7.” Tip off is at 5 pm EST. www.celticsblog.com/2018/4/27/17288698/brad-stevens-on-stagnant-boston-offense-we-gotta-get-in-popping
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Post by Admin on Apr 27, 2018 12:46:29 GMT -5
Marcus Morris missed the intent of Brad Stevens' "moving the ball"By Tom Lane Winslow Townson/APBrad Stevens' loud and frequent battle cry to his team has been "move the ball". It has not been heeded, especially by Marcus Morris. Mook's definition of moving the ball is "dribble as much as possible while dismissing any thoughts of a pass and hoist a fall-away under pressure". Granted, the ball is moving up-and-down on the dribbles, towards the basket on his back-ins and through the air on his shots. But I honestly don't think that meshes with Brad's idea of ball-movement. Side-to-side passes leading to reasonably-open shots is what Stevens is looking for. Other Celtics players are guilty of the same offense, but not to the extent of Morris. He is averaging exactly 1.0 assist per game in the series. He had been averaging 0.5 APG, but his two assists last night raised that. Brad has been critical of his team doing too much dribbling without a purpose. Why do I feel that Stevens' comments (move the ball - cut down worthless dribbling - take good shots) are often directed at Mook. Morris is averaging 13.8 points in this series, and the Celtics need that. He is also grabbing five boards per game, and the team also needs that. They don't need his 38% field goal percentage and 1.0 APG in the Bucks series. He is hitting 45% of his shots beyond the arc in the Milwaukee series, and maybe he needs to stick to those. In my earlier article from this morning on the Celtics bad road habits, two of our regular readers, CelticsNextGeneration and JBDA, had commented on Marcus Morris' performance last night. This is what they had to say:
He had 14 points in Game Six last night, but he was 5-of-14 from the field and 1-of-4 on three-pointers. And only one rebound. With a depleted squad, Boston needs his scoring and rebounding, but redefining what moving the ball means might bode well for a victory in Game Seven tomorrow night. www.celticslife.com/2018/04/marcus-morris-missed-intent-of-brad.html
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Post by petey62 on Apr 27, 2018 12:58:29 GMT -5
I will say it again...Kyrie is so good that he makes it look easy, so people think it is, and therefore do not realize how good he is...he plays so fluid and casual, relaxed...like Ramirez batting in 2004, not caring if it was spring training or the World Series...
With Kyrie, we instantly became an elite team... Unless KI feels a need to play hero ball, and coaches and teammates stand around and let him. At that point, we are a bit better than presently configured... but not elite. Getting every engaged, including KI is the ticket to ride. His current absence, in the long run will pay dividends, forcing others to step up to show what they have. Same same for Hayward. Pud Pud KI plays hero ball because nobody else on this team is capable of taking this team on it's shoulders in crunch time on a consistent basis and SUCCESSFULLY closing that door. KI has earned that right. And also, when you play it so much, sometimes hero ball is unsuccessful. But there are a special few who can do it and, more often than not, be successful during the most crucial of times. KI is one of those few. All this series, that fact has been proven. We see Rozier playing hero ball shakin' and bakin' (comically always from sideline to sideline) and eventually throwing up an air ball from 10 feet. We see Jayson Tatum trying a behind the dribble move but the ball bounces off of his leg right to a Bucks player and he's going the other way. Then you have Jaylen Brown trying a weak ass Eurostep through 3 players that results in a jump ball. With Brown, the sad part is that he did not learn his lesson because later in the game, he was alone on the break and the Milwaukee transition defense fell asleep and he slipped right through for a layup. Nice play but I don't want a guy taking on 3 and 4 players by himself. Again, that doesn't happen frequently enough for a player like Brown (see game 5). When Rozier did his thing and then Tatum dribbles off the back of his foot and then Smart's horrible pass that got stolen by Giannis and Horford down low with Brogdan on him passing all the way out to Tatum who could not hit a shot until the 4th quarter............ these guys, right now, aren't built for that. Tatum, Brown and Rozier may develop into that player at some point, but it aint now! And please don't let me start on Marcus Morris and his hero tendencies as well as Marcus Smart trying to post up a guy who is 6'7". We are half the team we're capable of being whenever the ball stops and we don't move it around. KI is our hero ball guy. Every team has one. At certain times in the game, THAT GUY takes over and brings us home. Until one on this team develops, I'll put my money on KI (we have some fine future hero ball candidates too). But honestly, don't know why I typed all that, it'll all be moot next year because we "should" be at full strength and KI won't need to be the hero ALL THE TIME. Whew!
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Post by Admin on Apr 27, 2018 12:59:30 GMT -5
This is irrelevant to this series now but posted since referenced in prior post ... Bad road habits result in Celtics loss to Bucks and a Game 7 in Boston By Tom Lane Stuart Cahill/Boston Herald
NBA TV's Sam Mitchell said it best. The Boston Celtics have exhibited bad habits on the road against the Milwaukee Bucks. How many times has coach Brad Stevens told his troops to move the ball. They do at times, but not so at other points in the game, resulting in another bad habit - namely taking bad shots. In his broadcast this morning, Mitchell stressed that the Celtics are also not setting screens and not playing maximum defense. The bad habits resulted in a Bucks 97-86 victory last night. Boston has generally been outrebounding Milwaukee in the series, but not in this one. The Celtics managed only 39 boards to Milwaukee's 48. How about the bad shots? Boston was 37.0% on field goals compared to the Bucks' 50.7%. One statistic that is glaring would be the percentage of fast-break points by each team. Only 4.7% of Boston's points came from fast breaks compared to Milwaukee's 25.8%. That is a major difference. TNT analyst Kevin McHale mentioned during play the need for Boston to get some easy buckets to develop some rhythm. They had few easy ones. But part of that was the stifling defense by the Bucks. Percentage of points off turnovers? Milwaukee had double the percentage of Boston - 14.4%-to-7.0%. When the Bucks force a turnover and run, they are close to unstoppable. So what what is the remedy? TD Garden is the cure. Most of the bad habits get squelched in Boston. Sam Mitchell stated that he feels Al Horford needs to get aggressive in Game Seven and set the tone for the younger guys. He also stressed that Marcus Smart needs to come out with maximum energy (doesn't he always?) and ignite his teammates. If Al provides the stability and aggressiveness to lessen the bad habits seen on the road, and Smart ignites his teammates (and starts hitting his shots), the Garden crowd should provide enough energy to generate a Celtics win. www.celticslife.com/2018/04/bad-road-habits-result-in-celtics-loss.html
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Post by petey62 on Apr 27, 2018 13:22:25 GMT -5
Those are some BIG IFS (Horford getting aggressive and Smart hitting his shots).
Honestly, I think Al should get more aggressive. He can muscle any play on the Bucks and get off his shot. It's just unfortunate that he chooses not to do that on a more frequent basis. When you get "and-1" against Parker and then Giannis down low, that should tell you to keep at it until they stop you. That would eventually open the perimeter.
I'll take a repeat scoring barrage like in game 1. Honestly, I believe Marcus Morris is due for a huge game.
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Post by cole on Apr 27, 2018 13:51:58 GMT -5
On the road the bucks are being allowed to slap so much that we just get mobbed in the paint. They do block shots and in Milwaukee theyve slapped away with impunity. Even when Al has had position or Jaylen penetrates we don't score. I think that's why you saw us taking our chances with a lot of threes.
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Post by puddin on Apr 27, 2018 18:54:49 GMT -5
Unless KI feels a need to play hero ball, and coaches and teammates stand around and let him. At that point, we are a bit better than presently configured... but not elite. Getting every engaged, including KI is the ticket to ride. His current absence, in the long run will pay dividends, forcing others to step up to show what they have. Same same for Hayward. Pud Pud KI plays hero ball because nobody else on this team is capable of taking this team on it's shoulders in crunch time on a consistent basis and SUCCESSFULLY closing that door. KI has earned that right. And also, when you play it so much, sometimes hero ball is unsuccessful. But there are a special few who can do it and, more often than not, be successful during the most crucial of times. KI is one of those few. All this series, that fact has been proven. We see Rozier playing hero ball shakin' and bakin' (comically always from sideline to sideline) and eventually throwing up an air ball from 10 feet. We see Jayson Tatum trying a behind the dribble move but the ball bounces off of his leg right to a Bucks player and he's going the other way. Then you have Jaylen Brown trying a weak ass Eurostep through 3 players that results in a jump ball. With Brown, the sad part is that he did not learn his lesson because later in the game, he was alone on the break and the Milwaukee transition defense fell asleep and he slipped right through for a layup. Nice play but I don't want a guy taking on 3 and 4 players by himself. Again, that doesn't happen frequently enough for a player like Brown (see game 5). When Rozier did his thing and then Tatum dribbles off the back of his foot and then Smart's horrible pass that got stolen by Giannis and Horford down low with Brogdan on him passing all the way out to Tatum who could not hit a shot until the 4th quarter............ these guys, right now, aren't built for that. Tatum, Brown and Rozier may develop into that player at some point, but it aint now! And please don't let me start on Marcus Morris and his hero tendencies as well as Marcus Smart trying to post up a guy who is 6'7". We are half the team we're capable of being whenever the ball stops and we don't move it around. KI is our hero ball guy. Every team has one. At certain times in the game, THAT GUY takes over and brings us home. Until one on this team develops, I'll put my money on KI (we have some fine future hero ball candidates too). But honestly, don't know why I typed all that, it'll all be moot next year because we "should" be at full strength and KI won't need to be the hero ALL THE TIME. Whew! KI plays hero ball for the very same reason that IT played hero ball. Lots of fun to watch... and we do win some games that we likely shouldn't have won.... but neither playing hero ball makes us elite.... just fun to watch. Pud
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Post by elvissurfs on Apr 27, 2018 21:39:59 GMT -5
I will say it again...Kyrie is so good that he makes it look easy, so people think it is, and therefore do not realize how good he is...he plays so fluid and casual, relaxed...like Ramirez batting in 2004, not caring if it was spring training or the World Series...
With Kyrie, we instantly became an elite team... Unless KI feels a need to play hero ball, and coaches and teammates stand around and let him. At that point, we are a bit better than presently configured... but not elite. Getting every engaged, including KI is the ticket to ride. His current absence, in the long run will pay dividends, forcing others to step up to show what they have. Same same for Hayward. Pud "Hero Ball"...how about Zero Ball?...as in there was zero around Kyrie...so what else could he do?...count on the rookies?...Big low key Al?...good grief...
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Post by elvissurfs on Apr 27, 2018 21:52:16 GMT -5
Unless KI feels a need to play hero ball, and coaches and teammates stand around and let him. At that point, we are a bit better than presently configured... but not elite. Getting every engaged, including KI is the ticket to ride. His current absence, in the long run will pay dividends, forcing others to step up to show what they have. Same same for Hayward. Pud Pud KI plays hero ball because nobody else on this team is capable of taking this team on it's shoulders in crunch time on a consistent basis and SUCCESSFULLY closing that door. KI has earned that right. And also, when you play it so much, sometimes hero ball is unsuccessful. But there are a special few who can do it and, more often than not, be successful during the most crucial of times. KI is one of those few. All this series, that fact has been proven. We see Rozier playing hero ball shakin' and bakin' (comically always from sideline to sideline) and eventually throwing up an air ball from 10 feet. We see Jayson Tatum trying a behind the dribble move but the ball bounces off of his leg right to a Bucks player and he's going the other way. Then you have Jaylen Brown trying a weak ass Eurostep through 3 players that results in a jump ball. With Brown, the sad part is that he did not learn his lesson because later in the game, he was alone on the break and the Milwaukee transition defense fell asleep and he slipped right through for a layup. Nice play but I don't want a guy taking on 3 and 4 players by himself. Again, that doesn't happen frequently enough for a player like Brown (see game 5). When Rozier did his thing and then Tatum dribbles off the back of his foot and then Smart's horrible pass that got stolen by Giannis and Horford down low with Brogdan on him passing all the way out to Tatum who could not hit a shot until the 4th quarter............ these guys, right now, aren't built for that. Tatum, Brown and Rozier may develop into that player at some point, but it aint now! And please don't let me start on Marcus Morris and his hero tendencies as well as Marcus Smart trying to post up a guy who is 6'7". We are half the team we're capable of being whenever the ball stops and we don't move it around. KI is our hero ball guy. Every team has one. At certain times in the game, THAT GUY takes over and brings us home. Until one on this team develops, I'll put my money on KI (we have some fine future hero ball candidates too). But honestly, don't know why I typed all that, it'll all be moot next year because we "should" be at full strength and KI won't need to be the hero ALL THE TIME. Whew! Well, yeah...I guess Petey the Truth said it better...
Can we lay this subject to rest?...it is not even worthy of discussion...good grief...
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Post by puddin on Apr 27, 2018 22:54:24 GMT -5
Unless KI feels a need to play hero ball, and coaches and teammates stand around and let him. At that point, we are a bit better than presently configured... but not elite. Getting every engaged, including KI is the ticket to ride. His current absence, in the long run will pay dividends, forcing others to step up to show what they have. Same same for Hayward. Pud "Hero Ball"...how about Zero Ball?...as in there was zero around Kyrie...so what else could he do?...count on the rookies?...Big low key Al?...good grief... By my rough count, we were 14-8 with KI either inactive or not with the team during this regular season. Cs are not a one man team by any stretch. Pud
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