tremha
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Post by tremha on May 5, 2016 10:36:38 GMT -5
To me the team is sitting in Switzerland right now.
They have some solid core pieces - Bergeron, Marchand, Krecji, Belesky, Rask
They have some promising youngsters with NHL experience - Spooner, Pasta, Krug, and maybe Vatrano and C. Miller
They have some oldies that are past their prime and being asked to do too much - Chara and Seidenberg
And some serviceable fillers - Connolly, Hayes, Ferraro, McQuaid
I see Louie as good as gone so have to replace his points.
They had 5 picks in the first 52 last year and 2 more firsts this year. A chance to stock the cupboard but generally 2-3 years to see if any make it and can be counted on so no current help.
So - current core isn't good enough to win - need more offense and 1-2 top 4 D which are not easy to get.
what to do?
look to fill with UFA's? Cap issues and competition from other teams.
trades? not sure they have a ton to offer - you hate to trade any of last year or this years picks before you know what you have.
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Post by bigbadbruin on May 5, 2016 11:04:48 GMT -5
The team, for the past 2 years, is exactly where you don't want to be...17th place in a league where 16 teams make the playoffs. Not bad enough to get a high draft pick. Not good enough to make the playoffs.
The good news is, in a cap league, 2 or 3 good decisions can get you back into the mix. I just don't have a lot of confidence that this management team can pull it off.
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spike77
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Post by spike77 on May 5, 2016 13:45:27 GMT -5
Agree past management deals and signings show not much confidence moving forward
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Post by marco0683 on May 5, 2016 14:46:51 GMT -5
once they trsded seg it was downmountain from their.
Why? not try snd gets him bsck!?
trsde Krejci,Chara and Sidenberg bsck for him, see Dsllas still win round withowt him
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Post by kitchener on May 5, 2016 15:14:47 GMT -5
It's going to be tuff to improve the defence enough to be able to compete with the elite teams.THe path going forward really not sure.
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mmbzfan
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Post by mmbzfan on May 5, 2016 18:41:41 GMT -5
Plenty of good veteran defenseman to grab in free agency. Just need a couple of good vets to put around Colin Miller and Jow Morrow.
Chara-Russell
Demers-Morrow
Quincey-Seidenberg
Colin Miller
$24 Million in cap space to work with.
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Post by kitchener on May 5, 2016 20:28:01 GMT -5
Plenty of good veteran defenseman to grab in free agency. Just need a couple of good vets to put around Colin Miller and Jow Morrow. Chara-Russell Demers-Morrow Quincey-Seidenberg Colin Miller $24 Million in cap space to work with. Really don't think Chara can be a top two defence anymore.I hope CMiller and Morrow develop into top Defenceman I definetly think they have the potential. |
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marco1
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Post by marco1 on May 6, 2016 12:06:07 GMT -5
I think as BBB mentioned ...we are in the worse position.. I'm not sure how much confidence I have in this mgmt ....still just the start for DS however I admit I'm already doubting DS.for not evaluating the team adequately.. Im not surprised we didn't make the playoffs ...I was surprised on how well we were playing only to
Be deceived at the end by which I believe our true colors were unravelled......I' m also watching martin jones and he looks good .. why on earth did DS trade him...no idea.. should have hung on to him. I hope he doesn't become another superstar goalie. ..... another thing I'll be pissed at like there's not enough already. ....lol
As far as Chara...out of gas ..yes.... however he's still a top 3-4 dman for us but not top 1-2(we just dont have a top dman)
Given his age and mileage chara can quickly drop from top 3-4 to top 5-6
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Post by drewski6 on May 6, 2016 12:32:12 GMT -5
Plenty of good veteran defenseman to grab in free agency. Just need a couple of good vets to put around Colin Miller and Jow Morrow. Chara-Russell Demers-Morrow Quincey-Seidenberg Colin Miller $24 Million in cap space to work with. Krug, McQuaid, and Trotman are still on this team. For better or for worse, re: the latter two. Krug is an RFA and unless someone signs him to a large offer sheet, I doubt he's going anywhere. Unfortunatley , you have to play McQ somewhere on account of how much he gets paid. Trot isnt good, but I think he can at least be a third pairing guy. I'm thinking this: Chara, Free-agent Krug, Seidenberg Trot, McQ C.Miller I wish we could flip C.Miller w McQ, but McQ makes almost 3M for the next couple of years. Hard to bench that :/ |
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mmbzfan
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Post by mmbzfan on May 6, 2016 12:54:04 GMT -5
Plenty of good veteran defenseman to grab in free agency. Just need a couple of good vets to put around Colin Miller and Jow Morrow. Chara-Russell Demers-Morrow Quincey-Seidenberg Colin Miller $24 Million in cap space to work with. Really don't think Chara can be a top two defence anymore.I hope CMiller and Morrow develop into top Defenceman I definetly think they have the potential. Chara can be a top-2 defenseman still but he just can't be relied onto to carry a linemate that isn't top 4. In 2017 Chara's cap hit drops to $4M. Chara will be underpaid at that point. |
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mmbzfan
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Post by mmbzfan on May 6, 2016 12:57:57 GMT -5
Plenty of good veteran defenseman to grab in free agency. Just need a couple of good vets to put around Colin Miller and Jow Morrow. Chara-Russell Demers-Morrow Quincey-Seidenberg Colin Miller $24 Million in cap space to work with. Krug, McQuaid, and Trotman are still on this team. For better or for worse, re: the latter two. Krug is an RFA and unless someone signs him to a large offer sheet, I doubt he's going anywhere. Unfortunatley , you have to play McQ somewhere on account of how much he gets paid. Trot isnt good, but I think he can at least be a third pairing guy. I'm thinking this: Chara, Free-agent Krug, Seidenberg Trot, McQ C.Miller I wish we could flip C.Miller w McQ, but McQ makes almost 3M for the next couple of years. Hard to bench that :/ Seidenberg will used as a 5-6 Dman and play a ton of PK minutes but never anymore 20 minute plus games. I don't think McQuaid makes the cut and he surely cannot play over 20 minutes anymore. I think Sweeney signs two of Hamhius, Demers, Lovejoy, Russell or Quincey. |
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marco1
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Post by marco1 on May 6, 2016 12:59:34 GMT -5
I like C.Miller not so much Morrow..I saw Morrow being just awful too often and his offensive "abilities" imo don't outweigh his defensive deficiencies..... I just don't see much value to him
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Post by marc0 on May 9, 2016 7:52:55 GMT -5
doesnt amtter who they pickthey willl just trade him away anyways
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Post by marco1 on May 9, 2016 8:23:29 GMT -5
Mod ..we had to endure these oieces of shits at bdc but enough. ....you noticed he vhsnged the O so he can use my name.... pls ban this guy and may I suggest to eventually allow only registered members....in other words ultimately removing the Guest option...
P.s. maybe I can be some type of ass mod so I can look at their IP address and have a good idea on who this guy(s)is .......
If its a Mass ip.. poster called ...bhab , kelvana)
Florida Ip.....Nas
Maritimes IP. ( new Brunswick , nova scotia, ....poster called GNIB)
Thsnjs
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Post by drewski6 on May 10, 2016 8:09:14 GMT -5
I agree that C.Miller moved up our prospect rankings, while Morrow moved down. Dont want to give up on Morrow, as he is still young - but dont think we can rely on him next year. I wish we could use McQ as our seventh D man, but we pay him too much money. He needs to get ice team because he makes money. I do agree that his talent level is just so/so. He is tough, but he is a weak skater with no offense who turns the puck over. I was livid when I saw the contract he received. I understand that we traded Lucic and we wanted to replace the toughness, but get a guy who makes 900K to do that. Like S.Thornton was. I was nervous when Cam, Sweeney and C. Jacobs were talking about the importance of establishing an identity. Signing guys like McQ to too much money is exactly what I was afraid of. Toughness is important , but you cant overpay for it.
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Post by marco on May 10, 2016 10:08:02 GMT -5
McQ is a 7thdman and not on every nhl team. DS vastly overpaid him ......this may have been a way to say the fans "you see we're serious we want ti be a team to be tough to pay against" wrong and not a smart move.
McQ 's contract was criticized from the getgo
And definitely understandbly so
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Post by drewski6 on May 10, 2016 11:19:37 GMT -5
Agreed, Marco. I can only guess, but I think the contract was due to Sweeney / Neely trying to replace the toughness that they lost by trading Lucic. It's a terrible contract.
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mmbzfan
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Post by mmbzfan on May 12, 2016 20:41:24 GMT -5
$2.75M a year is a great contract for a 5-6 Dman. The problem was that Julien tried to use McQuaid above his pay grade. There would be plenty of suitiors for AM if Sweeney put him on the market.
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spike77
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Post by spike77 on May 12, 2016 23:51:24 GMT -5
Hmm see joe having another great year. Man this team has made a lot of dud trades
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Post by kitchener on May 13, 2016 7:25:44 GMT -5
$2.75M a year is a great contract for a 5-6 Dman. The problem was that Julien tried to use McQuaid above his pay grade. There would be plenty of suitiors for AM if Sweeney put him on the market. I just find him so inconsistent down the stretch he was terrible by far there worst Defenceman. |
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Post by bigbadbruin on May 13, 2016 10:36:42 GMT -5
$2.75M a year is a great contract for a 5-6 Dman. The problem was that Julien tried to use McQuaid above his pay grade. There would be plenty of suitiors for AM if Sweeney put him on the market. Depends on an individual team's situation. If a team has a superstar type d-man such as , Doughty, Weber, Suter, Keith, etc. that end up playing 1/2 the game, then they are looking for cheap 1M or less contracts to fill out the #5/6 positions. Even the Bruins were trying to go with a couple of 800,000 contracts at 5/6 with the Millers, but were forced into moving them into the top 4 at various times. I think teams would rather pay the #3/4 guys in the 3M-4M range. The League seems to be heading for 6-7 guys on each team making big money, and everybody else on entry level contracts, or cheap veterans making less than 1.5M. |
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Post by marco on May 13, 2016 10:49:29 GMT -5
AMQ ...well brings nothing to the bruins aside from a few fights per year...he is a 7 th dman on a team with a serious blueline(having said that draw your own conclusions)...2.75 m per yr
Would not have given him more then half that and if some other team (Theres always Tor) wants to give him more. ....be gone
Kevin Miller imo has more value then AMQ
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Post by kitchener on May 13, 2016 11:13:17 GMT -5
AMQ ...well brings nothing to the bruins aside from a few fights per year...he is a 7 th dman on a team with a serious blueline(having said that draw your own conclusions)...2.75 m per yr Would not have given him more then half that and if some other team (Theres always Tor) wants to give him more. ....be gone Kevin Miller imo has more value then AMQ Miller really sucked at times during the season but he was pretty dam good the later part of the season. |
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Post by mmbzfan on May 14, 2016 11:14:32 GMT -5
$2.75M a year is a great contract for a 5-6 Dman. The problem was that Julien tried to use McQuaid above his pay grade. There would be plenty of suitiors for AM if Sweeney put him on the market. I just find him so inconsistent down the stretch he was terrible by far there worst Defenceman. Becuase Julien had no choice but to play Adam above his pay grade. Having said that, I would not be shocked if McQuaid were moved. And it would be easy to move Adam McQuaid. |
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Post by mmbzfan on May 14, 2016 11:19:00 GMT -5
$2.75M a year is a great contract for a 5-6 Dman. The problem was that Julien tried to use McQuaid above his pay grade. There would be plenty of suitiors for AM if Sweeney put him on the market. I think teams would rather pay the #3/4 guys in the 3M-4M range.The League seems to be heading for 6-7 guys on each team making big money, and everybody else on entry level contracts, or cheap veterans making less than 1.5M. Of course teams want to pay those price ranges but that doesn't always last, especially when their contracts. Boychuk is a prime example of, playing above a pay grade, but he is not a 1-2 Dman and never will be. Cheap veterans playing well for less $1.5M is a pipe dream, that is very rarley seen. |
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