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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2024 1:08:36 GMT -5
Woj: Hawks “Absolutely Open For Business” Ahead Of Trade Deadline by Luke Adams
The Hawks are “absolutely open for business” on the trade market, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, who said today during a Q&A session on Threads that general manager Landry Fields “seems determined to make changes” to Atlanta’s roster by the February 8 trade deadline.
Given that Wojnarowski’s statement is just a brief response in a Q&A session rather than a full report, he doesn’t offer any additional details on the Hawks’ plans for the deadline.
It seems relatively safe to assume that star guard Trae Young won’t be going anywhere on or before Feb. 8, and the Hawks reportedly aren’t inclined to move breakout forward Jalen Johnson. Additionally, young big man Onyeka Okongwu will be subject to the poison pill provision, making it more challenging – though certainly not impossible – to include him in a deal.
On the other hand, De’Andre Hunter and Clint Capela have frequently been cited as probable trade candidates, and there has been speculation that Atlanta might be open to listening to inquiries on Dejounte Murray. It would presumably require a substantial offer for the Hawks to seriously consider moving Murray, but with the club off to a 13-19 start this season following an underwhelming 41-41 finish in 2022/23, Fields and the front office will likely consider a wide range of possibilities.
In terms of potential trade targets, Raptors forward Pascal Siakam has frequently been linked to the Hawks. Atlanta and Toronto reportedly engaged in serious talks over the summer that ultimately didn’t lead to a deal.
The Hawks were at the center of several trade rumors during the offseason, with Caplea’s and Hunter’s names coming up frequently, but the team’s only major move on the trade market was sending John Collins to Utah in what amounted to a salary dump.
The hope was that, a year after acquiring Murray, the current iteration of the Hawks could make a leap in the same way that the Timberwolves have this season in their second year with Rudy Gobert. That hasn’t been the case in the first half though, so after those rumored offseason trades didn’t come to fruition, Atlanta may be more aggressive in trying to get deals across the finish line in the coming weeks.
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2024 14:56:34 GMT -5
Here's what Brad said recently about adding a player:“What you look at is guys that can play, guys that can add value,” Stevens said. “But, like I said last year, don’t need to play. ... So if we end up adding somebody, I don’t know if it will be a game-changer. “I would like to continue to see how we can find another big wing or so that can help us, and I think that could be from within. I also think that we’ll continue to monitor free agency and trades. But again, the difference in this year and maybe other years is our tools are pretty limited from a dollars standpoint.”
So that said, I looked for big wings that could add either offensive or defensive value that would fit into the TPE ($6.5M) in a trade for picks.
The obvious candidate based on the above post re the Hawks is Saddiq Bey ($4.5M - RFA in 24' @ $6.5M). He'd be under control for this season and possibly next unless another team were to make him a RFA Offer that the C's could not match. He's averaging 12.8pts/gm with 6.6 rebounds. He's 24 yrs old and 6'7" tall w/ a 6'11" wingspan. Essentially, a poor man's Finney-Smith. Using the TPE, the C's would have to give up a FRDP to begin the discussion. Landing Bey would make up for the loss/poor development of Nesmith. Ironically Bey had the better start as a rookie but it's Nesmith now who's caught up offensively and has proven to be the better defender. Nesmith has been extended from $5M/yr to a 3yr $33M contract while Bey has not been extended and may be on the trade block ... now that's a horse of a different color!
I'll keep looking for moar options ...
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Post by cole on Jan 5, 2024 15:00:12 GMT -5
When I listened I kept thinking he was telling us indirectly that it would be Blake Griffin.
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2024 15:38:07 GMT -5
I don't think Griffin wants to come back East. If he joins a team late in the season I'd expect it to be a West coast contender ... JMO.
Unless able to pull off something like Bey, then we will look to Briss, Stevens or possibly Peterson (ME) from within to take a jump with added minutes.
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2024 15:44:55 GMT -5
Here's more on the Hawks:The Hawks are certainly open for business, with plenty of long-term deals to be moved. Of late, Atlanta has informed numerous teams the only untouchable players on the Hawks’ roster are Young and rising third-year forward Jalen Johnson, sources said. Just watch Johnson’s behind-the-back dribble and flush in transition against Oklahoma City on Wednesday, or his pacing, passing and shooting ability at his size, and you’ll understand why Hawks figures are so bullish on the 22-year-old’s upside at a broad and bouncy 6-9. Atlanta owes its 2025 first-round selection to San Antonio as part of the haul that landed Murray, so there’s plenty of sense for the Hawks, currently 14-19, to weigh selling some of its veteran contributors, incorporating a lottery pick alongside Young and Johnson, then stepping back toward Atlanta’s bigger goal of competing in the playoffs under head coach Quin Snyder next season. Atlanta has been one of the more active teams on the phones across the league, sources said. And that seller’s path becoming more likely has league personnel no longer considering the Hawks as a prominent potential landing spot for Toronto’s other trade-deadline darling, Pascal Siakam, now that the Raptors ultimately moved on from Anunoby. Atlanta was once considered the most aggressive suitor for Siakam’s services, holding serious conversations with Toronto last offseason, sources said. But the chatter among NBA executives surrounding Siakam’s potential landing spots has now centered on Indiana, Sacramento and Detroit.
Admin Remark: Atl is short on draft picks and still owes S.A. a FRDP and is in need of a few moar for their own cupboard. If Bey is indeed available, the Hawks could open up cap space while adding a FRPD and maybe a 2nd as well not to mention the new TPE created from a trade with the C's ($4.5M).
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 5, 2024 15:47:41 GMT -5
I don't think Griffin wants to come back East. If he joins a team late in the season I'd expect it to be a West coast contender ... JMO. Stevens has passed up on at least a dozen players who could fill the bill. Why? I think Blake will hold out till mid Feb.. . I think there is an agreement already in place. Why would he pass up what seems like the best shot at a ring? Besides that he's familiar with the players and the coach.. I hope i'm wrong i see better players available ..
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Post by Cabutan on Jan 5, 2024 16:28:29 GMT -5
I just read that Bos might actually land Bogdan. Can anyone confirm this?
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 5, 2024 16:51:30 GMT -5
I just read that Bos might actually land Bogdan. Can anyone confirm this? AT 22.5 mil ? Nah
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Post by cole on Jan 5, 2024 17:14:59 GMT -5
I just read that Bos might actually land Bogdan. Can anyone confirm this? AT 22.5 mil ? Nah Maybe they would take Pritchard and Hauser? He would take both of their minutes. Not sure their salaries.
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2024 17:38:34 GMT -5
I don't think Griffin wants to come back East. If he joins a team late in the season I'd expect it to be a West coast contender ... JMO. Stevens has passed up on at least a dozen players who could fill the bill. Why? I think Blake will hold out till mid Feb.. . I think there is an agreement already in place. Why would he pass up what seems like the best shot at a ring? Besides that he's familiar with the players and the coach.. I hope i'm wrong i see better players available ..
Why? MONEY - Every $1 added costs them $5 (exaggerated) not to mention that after the top 8 on our roster there isn't much in the way of contract swaps.
Blake wanted to stay close to family why he passed up coming back ... if he's had his fill sure he might come back for 3-4 months but why not a contender closer to home?
If you and I see better opions, don't ya think Opie does too?
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2024 17:45:33 GMT -5
Continued ...
How the OG Anunoby deal has shaped the NBA trade market By Jake Fischer The Wizards have informed rival teams they’re open to trading veterans in search of future draft assets for Washington’s rebuild, sources said. Early impressions are the Wizards hope to receive multiple first-round picks for Kuzma, with the goal of receiving maximum draft capital for other players down their roster as well.
In Boston, rival executives are prepared for the Celtics to explore bench upgrades and depth additions behind arguably the league’s best “top six.” Boston is expected to keep reserve center Luke Kornet, who has many fans among Celtics staffers, past his upcoming guarantee date of Jan. 10, sources said. The other non-guaranteed veteran players on the Celtics all hold the likelihood of remaining in Boston for the foreseeable future as well, if only as a valuable roster spot and tradeable salary for the Celtics to play with, in addition to a $6.25 million trade exception.
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2024 17:54:55 GMT -5
I just read that Bos might actually land Bogdan. Can anyone confirm this?
... the Celtics are the favorite to swing a trade for sweet-shooting guard Bogdan Bogdanovic from the Atlanta Hawks. Their odds to do so are currently at +200.
Rounding out the top five of likely Bogdanovic trade suitors are the Milwaukee Bucks (+400), Denver Nuggets (+500), Los Angeles Clippers (+500) and Sacramento Kings (+700).
The Celtics, indeed, could use more battle-tested depth behind their core six. Payton Pritchard and Sam Hauser are solid role players, but the Celtics may shy away from giving them crucial minutes come postseason time. Meanwhile, Bogdan Bogdanovic is a tough-shot maker, a useful secondary ballhandler whom opposing defenses must not forget about every time he’s on the court due to his incredible marksmanship from deep.
Alas, there’s no way the Celtics can cobble together the salary that’s needed to acquire Bogdanovic from the Hawks. Bogdanovic is making $18.7 million this season; the Celtics will have to include one of their core six players to get a deal done. Given how well they’ve performed this season, there’s no reason for them rock the boat too much.
Moreover, it’s unlikely for the Hawks to deal away Bogdanovic when they’re trying to put together a quality core around Trae Young. Amid all the trade rumors swirling around Dejounte Murray and the team’s reported desire to acquire a star power forward, it’s likely that the Hawks elevate the 31-year old sharpshooter to the starting lineup if Murray departs.
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 5, 2024 18:26:07 GMT -5
Stevens has passed up on at least a dozen players who could fill the bill. Why? I think Blake will hold out till mid Feb.. . I think there is an agreement already in place. Why would he pass up what seems like the best shot at a ring? Besides that he's familiar with the players and the coach.. I hope i'm wrong i see better players available ..
Why? MONEY - Every $1 added costs them $5 (exaggerated) not to mention that after the top 8 on our roster there isn't much in the way of contract swaps.
Blake wanted to stay close to family why he passed up coming back ... if he's had his fill sure he might come back for 3-4 months but why not a contender closer to home?
If you and I see better opions, don't ya think Opie does too?
There have been several vet min players that wouldn't put us over the 2nd level especially if we dropped one of our non guarantees I think we also have 4 non guaranteed contracts that the vet min would cover and not cost a dollar in tax. Blake has the Lakers Warriors and Clippers.. Sac isn't really sur cali it's a long drive from Pacific Palisades where Blake lives I don't see any of those three making it out of the West. I wouldn't be surprised if we stand pat i expected Kornet to be released but i'm pretty sure i was. wrong. How many beers and joints did it take you to see like Opie? I had to chuckle at your last remark..
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Post by cole on Jan 5, 2024 20:05:24 GMT -5
Why? MONEY - Every $1 added costs them $5 (exaggerated) not to mention that after the top 8 on our roster there isn't much in the way of contract swaps.
Blake wanted to stay close to family why he passed up coming back ... if he's had his fill sure he might come back for 3-4 months but why not a contender closer to home?
If you and I see better opions, don't ya think Opie does too?
There have been several vet min players that wouldn't put us over the 2nd level especially if we dropped one of our non guarantees I think we also have 4 non guaranteed contracts that the vet min would cover and not cost a dollar in tax. Blake has the Lakers Warriors and Clippers.. Sac isn't really sur cali it's a long drive from Pacific Palisades where Blake lives I don't see any of those three making it out of the West. I wouldn't be surprised if we stand pat i expected Kornet to be released but i'm pretty sure i was. wrong. How many beers and joints did it take you to see like Opie? I had to chuckle at your last remark.. If you're doing a study on that I might know some volunteers
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 5, 2024 20:48:40 GMT -5
There have been several vet min players that wouldn't put us over the 2nd level especially if we dropped one of our non guarantees I think we also have 4 non guaranteed contracts that the vet min would cover and not cost a dollar in tax. Blake has the Lakers Warriors and Clippers.. Sac isn't really sur cali it's a long drive from Pacific Palisades where Blake lives I don't see any of those three making it out of the West. I wouldn't be surprised if we stand pat i expected Kornet to be released but i'm pretty sure i was. wrong. How many beers and joints did it take you to see like Opie? I had to chuckle at your last remark.. If you're doing a study on that I might know some volunteers It would be more entertaining than watching this slaughter tonight. The Jazz are experiencing near death mode. WTF is Ainge doing with this team?. Prayers are in order and these need to be dug back up in upstate NY . Near Manchester is the only clue
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Post by cole on Jan 5, 2024 20:56:24 GMT -5
If you're doing a study on that I might know some volunteers It would be more entertaining than watching this slaughter tonight. The Jazz are experiencing near death mode. WTF is Ainge doing with this team?. Prayers are in order and these need to be dug back up in upstate NY . Near Manchester is the only clue View AttachmentSeems like okc success has brought tanking back into fashion. Case in point Toronto
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 5, 2024 21:21:12 GMT -5
It would be more entertaining than watching this slaughter tonight. The Jazz are experiencing near death mode. WTF is Ainge doing with this team?. Prayers are in order and these need to be dug back up in upstate NY . Near Manchester is the only clue View AttachmentSeems like okc success has brought tanking back into fashion. Case in point Toronto I think you nailed it. We arn't ramming it down their throat as to speak. Just taking 3s. Look like over 50 Ainge shied away with the Celtics. He even came out and said....... I don't tank. Wonder what brought the change?
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Post by cole on Jan 5, 2024 21:34:33 GMT -5
Seems like okc success has brought tanking back into fashion. Case in point Toronto I think you nailed it. We arn't ramming it down their throat as to speak. Just taking 3s. Look like over 50 Ainge shied away with the Celtics. He even came out and said....... I don't tank. Wonder what brought the change? Different realities in Utah
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 5, 2024 21:44:31 GMT -5
I think you nailed it. We arn't ramming it down their throat as to speak. Just taking 3s. Look like over 50 Ainge shied away with the Celtics. He even came out and said....... I don't tank. Wonder what brought the change? Different realities in Utah Yeah half the fans arn't drunk brawlers from the south side who might get a bit physical.. Just found out the real reason. Not good for OKC sorry.. 2024 Utah’s own first-round pick (protected 1-10, if the pick falls outside of the top 10, Oklahoma City gets the pick instead) If the draft was today it would be 11 and go to OKC. I'm sure we'll see more tanking from the Jazz the rest of the season..
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Post by cole on Jan 5, 2024 21:57:46 GMT -5
well, i can promise you they will be in the top 10 worst
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 5, 2024 22:25:44 GMT -5
well, i can promise you they will be in the top 10 worst I see about 5 teams who looked locked in. Ainge should be able to get a 7 to 10 slot with ease. IDC But i've got one foot in SA mostly because of POP. I'm hoping they get a top 3 hopefully the ist. The bad for Utah Ainge only drafts well with top 3 picks.. They can tank two years SLC won't lose it.
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Post by rkarp1 on Jan 6, 2024 7:38:50 GMT -5
Kuminga is interesting. money works I also like Bogdon but agree the $$$ do not match. Not a fan of the Hawks. as long as Trae is on the team, they will never win. building around Trae is a huge mistake. they would be MUCH better off building around Johnson, keeping Murray who had been a defensive all league player (2nd team) for the Spurs. Capella and Hunter also play D and rebound first. Bogdon rounds out the team. trade Trae if you can find any takers
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 6, 2024 10:54:23 GMT -5
Kuminga is interesting. money works I also like Bogdon but agree the $$$ do not match. Not a fan of the Hawks. as long as Trae is on the team, they will never win. building around Trae is a huge mistake. they would be MUCH better off building around Johnson, keeping Murray who had been a defensive all league player (2nd team) for the Spurs. Capella and Hunter also play D and rebound first. Bogdon rounds out the team. trade Trae if you can find any takers 1 Kuminga plays 22.5 minutes a game and is complaining about not getting more playing time. 2 Kuminga has a team option for next year a 7 mil and GS will want more than we have to give in return. 3 Stevens doesn't want a complainer and unless Horford goes down we just need someone for 10 to 15 minutes a game.
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Post by kdp59 on Jan 7, 2024 11:36:24 GMT -5
my predictions' are:
1) the Grant TPE goes unused
2) Blake is signed or Neeeemas is added to the full roster
3) IF the team falters come the playoffs, my crystal ball sees Brown wearing a Hawk uniform next year with Murrray, Hunter and Griffin wearing green. Also Jrue is no where to be found, so I guess they low ball him and he moves on.
*** if team wins it all item #3 is null and void!
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Post by Admin on Jan 8, 2024 11:52:25 GMT -5
If a few of the recent guaranteed contracts are bundled with a pick then Drummond as a rental makes sense here ... Luke or Queta can't be depended upon in the POs! If spots open from a move like that then using the TPE and picks for players like Kessler or Fonteccio make sense as well. Other roster spot additions that could fit using the TPE are: Day'Ron Sharpe Saddiq Bey Mason Plumlee Daniel Theis (available 2/18)
... the team has elected to let four contracts become fully guaranteed for the season. Boston could have waived any of Dalano Banton, Luke Kornet, Svi Mykhailiuk or Lamar Stevens before Sunday evening if they wanted to avoid fully guaranteeing any of their contracts for the season before Tuesday’s NBA season guarantee deadline. However, Brad Stevens and Boston’s front office elected to retain the quartet of players for now, a decision he hinted at last week in a press conference.
“I’ve been really pleased with all those guys,” Stevens said Thursday in response to a question from MassLive. “I don’t want to say what we do or don’t do. I don’t ever want to speak in absolutes but I’ve been really impressed with all those guys. They’ve all come in and done well for us.”
Kornet will see his contract guarantee for $2.4 million while Mykhailiuk, Stevens and Banton will all earn just over $2 million for the season. All those players have been reliable contributors for Boston so far with teammates and coaches speaking highly of all of them. Amid a busy January schedule, they all provide solid depth as well when injuries hit. Boston currently has an open roster on the 15-man roster along with three two-way players under contract. Those deals have become guaranteed as well for Neemias Queta, JD Davison and Drew Peterson.
Boston’s decision to retain all their talent past the guarantee talent stands in contrast to last year. Last January, Boston dealt away Noah Vonleh along with cash to the San Antonio Spurs for a protected second-round pick. The move opened up a roster spot and produced millions in savings for luxury tax penalties by getting Vonleh’s deal off the books.
Boston’s willingness to retain all of these non-guaranteed deals this year is a strong sign that team ownership is willing to add onto their luxury tax bill in the coming weeks as the trade deadline approaches. While some names that were guaranteed are no-brainers (Kornet is a rotation contributor, Banton is under team control for next season), Stevens and Mykhailiuk have been depth players who have been sporadically used when the Celtics are healthy.
The fact their contracts are guaranteed now does not mean they will finish their seasons in Boston though a source tells MassLive. The Celtics could still elect to package several minimum salaries and another player(s) to make a deal for a player who would not fit into the $6.2 million Grant Williams trade exception. Stevens and Mykhailiuk’s salaries could be valuable tools on that front whereas waiving them this weekend would have made salary matching in that type of deal even tougher for Stevens.
Ultimately, multiple league sources have indicated to MassLive that the Celtics are strongly expected to make some kind of move ahead of the trade deadline. Keeping the team’s roster fully intact now past the guarantee deadline keeps more potential opportunities open for getting a deal done to bolster the back end of the roster.
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