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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 11:12:42 GMT -5
The headline haaaaaaaaa 👇
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 11:13:21 GMT -5
No offense but officiating has been one sided for the heat the whole series.
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Post by elvissurfs on May 29, 2023 11:16:04 GMT -5
The headline haaaaaaaaa 👇 Errr...don't jinx us...streaks are made to be broken... Just call it fair guys...let the players play!...
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Post by petey62 on May 29, 2023 11:17:09 GMT -5
The Celtics lose AT HOME against ATL without Murray in a closeout game. The Celtics lose AT HOME in game one against Philly without Embiid. The Celtics lose the first THREE GAMES in the ECF against Miami.
Somehow, some people believe this is the subtle work of the NBA office and their instructions to the refs.
The Celtics made 7 3-point shots on Saturday. Derrick White's put back was the first basket the Celtics made in the final FOUR MINUTES OF THE GAME! What do the referees have to do with that?
We almost choke the game's final FOUR MINUTES away because we stop playing but we point the finger at the referees.
Come on guys. Refs miss calls and make calls. The Celtics almost blew the game cause we've done this all season. That's nothing to do with refs.
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Post by petey62 on May 29, 2023 11:19:54 GMT -5
No offense but officiating has been one sided for the heat the whole series. Cab, what does this mean? Were more personal fouls called against the Celtics in every game? Can you define or explain what you mean by "one-sided for the heat the whole series"?
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Post by elvissurfs on May 29, 2023 11:20:34 GMT -5
You feel strongly enough to keep trying to convince others that you know what's really going on behind the curtain... and you do it so matter-of-fact.
Quite the contrarian.... hell bent on saving the sport from real/imagined malevolent forces I guess.
I don't have a clue about your wrestling and ref credibility comments.... gobbledygook.
Pud
Well, I'm not the only one. Don't think it is so much of a conspiracy, but more like each referee has certain tendencies, being human...and then there is the effect of the home crowd...doesn't seem to help us, but probably effected that call on Horford against Butler at the end of the last game... The Celtics have to get a good enough lead to not let any bad calls effect them...J's can't go 0 for 12...
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 11:32:10 GMT -5
No offense but officiating has been one sided for the heat the whole series. Cab, what does this mean? Were more personal fouls called against the Celtics in every game? Can you define or explain what you mean by "one-sided for the heat the whole series"? I don't think the fouls tell the full story. Every lead we have had has been followed by a blind eye from the refs. Sort of letting them play.
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 11:33:47 GMT -5
The Celtics lose AT HOME against ATL without Murray in a closeout game. The Celtics lose AT HOME in game one against Philly without Embiid. The Celtics lose the first THREE GAMES in the ECF against Miami. Somehow, some people believe this is the subtle work of the NBA office and their instructions to the refs. The Celtics made 7 3-point shots on Saturday. Derrick White's put back was the first basket the Celtics made in the final FOUR MINUTES OF THE GAME! What do the referees have to do with that? We almost choke the game's final FOUR MINUTES away because we stop playing but we point the finger at the referees. Come on guys. Refs miss calls and make calls. The Celtics almost blew the game cause we've done this all season. That's nothing to do with refs. did you watch the game? There were quite a few if not alot of non calls.
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Post by elvissurfs on May 29, 2023 11:45:01 GMT -5
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Post by petey62 on May 29, 2023 11:46:25 GMT -5
The Celtics lose AT HOME against ATL without Murray in a closeout game. The Celtics lose AT HOME in game one against Philly without Embiid. The Celtics lose the first THREE GAMES in the ECF against Miami. Somehow, some people believe this is the subtle work of the NBA office and their instructions to the refs. The Celtics made 7 3-point shots on Saturday. Derrick White's put back was the first basket the Celtics made in the final FOUR MINUTES OF THE GAME! What do the referees have to do with that? We almost choke the game's final FOUR MINUTES away because we stop playing but we point the finger at the referees. Come on guys. Refs miss calls and make calls. The Celtics almost blew the game cause we've done this all season. That's nothing to do with refs. did you watch the game? There were quite a few if not alot of non calls. I've watched it quite a few times. Just looking at the L2M report, it's littered with CNC which stands for "Correct No Call". That's how you let players play. That's just in the L2M report. All game long, there are CNC's. If the refs called fouls on 75% of the CNC plays, games would last 3 hours. The refs do a pretty good job toe'ing that line of making calls and letting them play. The last play of the game was indicative of that. Butler could have gotten a call earlier than he did but once he went up to shoot, Al fouled him and that's when he got the call. Correct CNC early but CC (correct call) once Al fouled him.
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 11:52:53 GMT -5
The last 2 minute report is not what let them into the game. The whole 4th quarter was plagued by missed calls that opened the door for Miami to make a comeback. A slow grinded comeback. As we were chatting here, we called it a few times how refs were slowly letting the heat get back to this. If those calls had happened, there wouldn't have been a last two minute report.
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 11:56:06 GMT -5
To me is whatever, I don't care. I am a firm believer that you leave no excuses and leave no ground for suspicion. But, it was pretty obvious that the non calls were a factor.
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Post by petey62 on May 29, 2023 11:56:26 GMT -5
Cab, what does this mean? Were more personal fouls called against the Celtics in every game? Can you define or explain what you mean by "one-sided for the heat the whole series"? I don't think the fouls tell the full story. Every lead we have had has been followed by a blind eye from the refs. Sort of letting them play. Cab, Tatum did not score a 4th quarter basket until GAME FOUR. What part of the Celtics losing the first three games was played by the refs taking a blind eye? We got BLOWN OUT in game 3 (some thought we quit) but, somehow, you factor in THE OFFICIATING? Our performances over the first SIX games is the sole reason the Celtics are where we are. Nothing else remotely can be attributed to why we're here. Maybe if the Celtics played as aggressively late in the fourth quarter, instead of hoisting up 3-pointers late in the shot clock, maybe we'd get some calls too to seemingly even things out. The refs? Unbelievable.
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Post by petey62 on May 29, 2023 12:00:16 GMT -5
The last 2 minute report is not what let them into the game. The whole 4th quarter was plagued by missed calls that opened the door for Miami to make a comeback. A slow grinded comeback. As we were chatting here, we called it a few times how refs were slowly letting the heat get back to this. If those calls had happened, there wouldn't have been a last two minute report. Miami went on a run and then the Celtic went on one too. Our run was what put us up by 10 (11 had Smart hit his foul shots). We were up by 10 with less than 4 minutes to play. The no-calls in the whole 4th quarter allowed us to make a run and get the lead up to 10. How did the refs let the Heat back in the game when we made our own run? After we got the lead, the Heat played desperately but we just relaxed thinking we could shoot 3's and win.
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 12:02:57 GMT -5
The last 2 minute report is not what let them into the game. The whole 4th quarter was plagued by missed calls that opened the door for Miami to make a comeback. A slow grinded comeback. As we were chatting here, we called it a few times how refs were slowly letting the heat get back to this. If those calls had happened, there wouldn't have been a last two minute report. Miami went on a run and then the Celtic went on one too. Our run was what put us up by 10 (11 had Smart hit his foul shots). We were up by 10 with less than 4 minutes to play. The no-calls in the whole 4th quarter allowed us to make a run and get the lead up to 10. How did the refs let the Heat back in the game when we made our own run? After we got the lead, the Heat played desperately but we just relaxed thinking we could shoot 3's and win. in that desperate play by the heat there was a lot of contact. Saw it. There is no denial from my part that we were not as aggressive but there were alot of missed calls and that's a fact. We will have to deal with Tatum's dissapearance. It is part of his game.
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 12:04:33 GMT -5
I don't know. I was watching with family and even my 10 year old son was "he didn't even touch him" or "Isn't that a foul". I myself kept saying these refs are horrible. Something I barely ever do.
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 12:06:07 GMT -5
If you watch the game with a keen eye to all of our wrongdoing, chances are you will not see how refs played a role in keeping it close. Well, it can be demoralizing when there are no calls. And Jimmy he does have that preferencial status in the league.
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 12:08:51 GMT -5
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Post by petey62 on May 29, 2023 12:09:21 GMT -5
If you watch the game with a keen eye to all of our wrongdoing, chances are you will not see how refs played a role in keeping it close. Well, it can be demoralizing when there are no calls. And Jimmy he does have that preferencial status in the league. What role were the refs playing in the 4th quarter when the Celtics went on a run to take a 10 point lead? Please explain the role they played then?
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 12:12:51 GMT -5
If you watch the game with a keen eye to all of our wrongdoing, chances are you will not see how refs played a role in keeping it close. Well, it can be demoralizing when there are no calls. And Jimmy he does have that preferencial status in the league. What role were the refs playing in the 4th quarter when the Celtics went on a run to take a 10 point lead? Please explain the role they played then? we deserved the win. Why? Perhaps we earned it! Same as the that 10 point lead. I would have cared less if we lost and we had not played better but fk. We played better than them all around and we were on pace to win it clean. Refs kept it close. Wrote it here as the game progressed. Lack of calls.
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Post by DaCeltics on May 29, 2023 12:30:08 GMT -5
I don't think the fouls tell the full story. Every lead we have had has been followed by a blind eye from the refs. Sort of letting them play. Cab, Tatum did not score a 4th quarter basket until GAME FOUR. What part of the Celtics losing the first three games was played by the refs taking a blind eye? We got BLOWN OUT in game 3 (some thought we quit) but, somehow, you factor in THE OFFICIATING? Our performances over the first SIX games is the sole reason the Celtics are where we are. Nothing else remotely can be attributed to why we're here. Maybe if the Celtics played as aggressively late in the fourth quarter, instead of hoisting up 3-pointers late in the shot clock, maybe we'd get some calls too to seemingly even things out. The refs? Unbelievable. Are you really Eric Lewis? Lol. Just kidding
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Post by petey62 on May 29, 2023 12:34:40 GMT -5
What role were the refs playing in the 4th quarter when the Celtics went on a run to take a 10 point lead? Please explain the role they played then? we deserved the win. Why? Perhaps we earned it! Same as the that 10 point lead. I would have cared less if we lost and we had not played better but fk. We played better than them all around and we were on pace to win it clean. Refs kept it close. Wrote it here as the game progressed. Lack of calls. The refs didn't keep it close. Had the Celtics continued to play the way we got the 10 point lead, and stopped letting the shot clock wind down only to shoot a bad 3-pointer, maybe we would have kept a 10 point lead. The Celtics play let MIA back into the game. But Cab, this has happened with this team all year long. We have consistently failed to hold late 4th quarter leads. Why now, it the reason blamed on officiating?
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Post by DaCeltics on May 29, 2023 12:42:15 GMT -5
Scott Foster was on the crew that called everything for the Lakers in game 7 2010.
Maybe he has been trying to clear his conscience ever since.
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Post by Cabutan on May 29, 2023 13:05:08 GMT -5
we deserved the win. Why? Perhaps we earned it! Same as the that 10 point lead. I would have cared less if we lost and we had not played better but fk. We played better than them all around and we were on pace to win it clean. Refs kept it close. Wrote it here as the game progressed. Lack of calls. The refs didn't keep it close. Had the Celtics continued to play the way we got the 10 point lead, and stopped letting the shot clock wind down only to shoot a bad 3-pointer, maybe we would have kept a 10 point lead. The Celtics play let MIA back into the game. But Cab, this has happened with this team all year long.  We have consistently failed to hold late 4th quarter leads. Why now, it the reason blamed on officiating? hey I have been beyond critical of these Celtics team all year. However, we had a great first half, great enough to have been at least (I remember counting it) 18 up. We ended up that half up by 13 (if I remember correctly). The difference, once again were to my discretion, part of bad officiating. Other than Tatum dissapearance in the second half, the other guys were playing really great ball. The continued to play great ball. Tatums offensive dissapearance was noticeable, he still gave us rebounds and defensive presence. The lead was not for lack of effort. We drove in. There were some missed calls and some calls that went their way. That's how I saw the game. Just like that, the game was tied. It was not all on us. That's just how I saw it. It would be hard for me to sit and watch and give you with precision the bad calls. Or the missed calls. My head is on game 7. But I stand by what I saw and what what I recalled calling at the moment. I was in outraged.
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Post by Admin on May 29, 2023 13:20:17 GMT -5
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