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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 22:36:14 GMT -5
I did not watch the game but previous post says 2 seven footers under the basket but I can't believe Brown or Tatum couldn't drive to the basket and do a layup under their arms or get fouled. Maybe I'm just a Monday QB?
Everyone's waiting for Mazz's presser to ask that very question.
With Tatum & Brown how do you have the ball with 5 ticks going to a short forward vs two giant forwards/center?
Was that the play or was it broken and Grant improvising?
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 18, 2023 22:38:13 GMT -5
I have got twenty bucks that says you are wrong!... An easy thousand if I knew you would pay...serious, straight up...no way this prick returns to the Celtics...our management is not so stupid that they will not trade him... We'll know for sure next year. So stay tuned! Next year?...I am calling it now...You know I have argued Brown over Tatum...but times change...I am thinking now that you have been right all along, Tatum is the guy who will stay and play!...
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 18, 2023 22:44:45 GMT -5
Tatum is our new Pierce...trade Brown for someone who can help him...
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 22:49:51 GMT -5
Per Mazz:
+9 ORs was a major contributor to the Jazz comeback
Getting outshot by 10
Outshot at FT line by 6 also contributed
TOVs the 4th contributor
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 22:53:24 GMT -5
Mazz says the final play was to get the ball to Tatum but that never happened
Tatum was scoreless in 1st, 3rd & 4th periods ... all 15 of his pts came in Q2
JT had no rhythm going to be called upon as the go to guy on the final shot per Eddie House
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 18, 2023 22:56:30 GMT -5
Mazz says the final play was to get the ball to Tatum but that never happened Tatum was scoreless in 1st, 3rd & 4th periods ... all 15 of his pts came in Q2 He had no rhythm going to be the go to guy on the final shot per Eddie House Awesome...and Brown wants out...geez...
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 22:57:09 GMT -5
Why didn't Mazz draw up the play for Brown?
He could have used Tatum as a decoy to set Brown up!
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 18, 2023 22:58:24 GMT -5
Pierce never wanted out, though I wished it for him cuz we sucked...but he smoked a cigar with Red...and never left...
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 22:59:21 GMT -5
I'm beginning to understand why Wyc all of a sudden got cheap about adding new blood at the deadline or the buyout market ... he didn't trust Mazz as much as Brad!
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 18, 2023 23:03:19 GMT -5
I'm beginning to understand why Wyc all of a sudden got cheap about adding new blood at the deadline or the buyout market ... he didn't trust Mazz as much as Brad! Again, and unfortunately, correct!...
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Post by Cabutan on Mar 18, 2023 23:11:01 GMT -5
I turned the tv off by the end of the second. I saw the collapse of this team coming from a mile. So much talent but we have reverted to be a very similar team than when Brad was coaching us. We aren't a purely offensive team. Leave that to Golden State. Our identity should be of a running defending team. What saves us is that the core has been together for a while. While I critize Mazzulla alot, it amazes me that our leaders can't see a correlation from our failed years. One would think that they would either voice it out or adjust accordingly but no.
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Post by Cabutan on Mar 18, 2023 23:12:10 GMT -5
Tatum is our new Pierce...trade Brown for someone who can help him... or the other way around.
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 23:12:13 GMT -5
Grant explains in his presser that when the ball came into him, he got past Markkanen and made a move into the paint and looked up to kick it out and JB was covered to his left and Hauser covered to his right. JT was too far out at the nail for him to pass out there so he wanted to get a shot off before time expired and he wanted to get it off the glass for a potential putback if missed but Utah blocked the shot.
Forsberg agrees that it was impossible for Grant to get the ball to Tatum who was 50' from the rim and was left with no outlet.
He also wants to know where White was in the 4th Qtr with Marcus out. White & Brogs would have been better off with Jaylen & Jason than Grant and Hauser under the circumstances.
The Jazz implemented a zone defense when down 19 and promptly outscored the C's 23-5 with the C's shooting going cold vs the zone. What adjustment did Mazz make?
Jazz just exploited our lack of defense in the paint and feasted at the low post and on the boards.
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 23:13:23 GMT -5
Hard to be upset with Grant who had 23pts on 7-12 from 3
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 23:15:43 GMT -5
Here's some good news: Rob may play on Tues according to Mazz
Mazzulla said he thinks there’s a chance the big man could play in the Celtics’ game against the Kings on Tuesday in Sacramento.
“He was on the court today working,” Mazzulla said of Williams. “I spoke to him yesterday and he seemed like he was in a good space. He seemed like he was getting closer.”
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Post by Cabutan on Mar 18, 2023 23:18:43 GMT -5
Here's some good news: Rob may play on Tues according to Mazz well that's nice. But when I look at Rob, he can't have an impact as much as last year. Not because of his injuries but also because our focus has become offense. I feel for him. He isn't healthy plus he has to scramble and find a niche in this team somehow.
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Post by Cabutan on Mar 18, 2023 23:26:01 GMT -5
When we were up 19 Fierce said this game was a waste as Jazz are only a lottery team ... then he's grateful that we have a close game and are tested for a close win ... and finally upon losing it to the Lottery Team all we get from Fierce is LOL. not only the narrative was changed for this game but for the whole season as well. Then the averaged stats become so insignificant that he doesn't pull them out.
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 23:30:13 GMT -5
W/o looking any further, Fierce blamed the loss on Grant and the team being stupid.
Me, I'm with Dee ... I blame Timmy & Mazz!
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Post by Cabutan on Mar 18, 2023 23:33:47 GMT -5
W/o looking any further, Fierce blamed the loss on Grant and the team being stupid. Me, I'm with Dee ... I blame Timmy & Mazz! Brad. Brad put Mazulla there. Ainge knew who was the better coach, Hardy.
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2023 23:41:36 GMT -5
Yeah, Hardy double teamed Tatum the entire game and when we kept hitting threes went to zone D and got right back into the game.
How is it that Mazz has no game plan when Tatum is taken out of a game. If he can't compensate everyone will do the same thing in the POs. We don't adjust to an inside game at all unless the opponent has no interior defense. As if JT is afraid to attack a team like this with 2-3 bigs in the frontcourt.
I'm pissed ... I wanted Markkanen and those that doubted me should now understand what he could have done for the Celtics.
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Post by kdp59 on Mar 19, 2023 9:07:51 GMT -5
playoff?.....you guys really WANT playoffs? ?
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 19, 2023 9:32:12 GMT -5
STUPID STUPID STUPID TEAM.
Not one good decision in the final minutes of the game. We suck!!
Flagrant foul.........forced shot by Tatum........and why, for the love of God, do we try to take it in on their bigs in the final five seconds with a guy who can't jump?
BLOCKED!!! Stupid play, stupid design. If OR's were our trouble, WWB?? Where was Blake? This game was so freaking annoying. We made Horton-Tucker look like Andrew Toney..... ZERO defense played on Markkanen. He did the same move every time. Can't we cut that off? What the hell is wrong with them?
This is also on the coach, again, for not adapting, losing another big lead, and allowing the players to be STUPID as hell!!
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Post by elvissurfs on Mar 19, 2023 9:47:09 GMT -5
STUPID STUPID STUPID TEAM. Not one good decision in the final minutes of the game. We suck!! Flagrant foul.........forced shot by Tatum........and why, for the love of God, do we try to take it in on their bigs in the final five seconds with a guy who can't jump? BLOCKED!!! Stupid play, stupid design. If OR's were our trouble, WWB?? Where was Blake? This game was so freaking annoying. We made Horton-Tucker look like Andrew Toney..... ZERO defense played on Markkanen. He did the same move every time. Can't we cut that off? What the hell is wrong with them? This is also on the coach, again, for not adapting, losing another big lead, and allowing the players to be STUPID as hell!! Well, that sums it up pretty dang good...very very hard to watch this team ever since the early season run...wasted opportunity after wasted opportunity...Blake and White sitting on the bench, etc, etc...
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Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 19, 2023 9:58:50 GMT -5
“I was talked into bringing it back and giving it some more love by a couple of Senior Council members on the team,” Hardy said. “So we decided to bring it back and work on it some more. We worked on it the last couple days of practice and thought it’d be a fun opportunity to try to bring it out.” The Jazz used a varied version of a 1-3-1 zone with a ton of switching and some double-teaming to help keep the Celtics from finding a good rhythm. Part of the goal was to keep Jayson Tatum out of the game as much as possible — close him off, deny him, put pressure on him. Tatum ended up going 4 of 12 on the night, and the fact that he only took 12 shots, when he averages 21.4 attempts per game, was proof enough for Hardy that the Jazz’s zone was working. – via Sarah Todd @ deseret.com Coaching, Will Hardy, Jayson Tatum, Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz
So Ainge had a significant history with Mazzulla even before considering him for the Jazz head coaching position over the offseason. Though Utah eventually picked Hardy instead, Ainge considered Mazzulla a legitimate candidate during the interview process and remains a big believer in Mazzulla as a coach afterward. “I just always liked Joe’s work ethic, his focus, his intelligence,” Ainge said. “I feel like Joe is one of those guys — one way that I’ve always measured greatness is how much a person can learn from mistakes they make. Joe’s going to learn from his mistakes, just like Will Hardy learns from his mistakes quickly. … The coaches that learn and move on, they become the legendary coaches. And I think both Joe and Will have a chance to be those.” – via Jay King @ The Athletic Coaching, Danny Ainge, Joe Mazzulla, Will Hardy, Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz
The Celtics haven’t played great basketball lately under Mazzulla, but Ainge has faith. “I think Joe’s done an outstanding job and I think he’s going to be a great basketball coach,” Ainge said. “The next year he’s going to be a lot better and the year after that he’s going to be a lot better but it seems like he has a really good group of people around him and stafff around him. And he’s got Brad there, he’s got amazing experience. I think the team’s going to be right there in the hunt and have an opportunity to fulfill their dreams when the playoffs start if they can stay healthy.” – via Jay King @ The Athletic Coaching, Danny Ainge, Joe Mazzulla, Will Hardy, Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz
The Celtics haven’t played great basketball lately under Mazzulla, but Ainge has faith. “I think Joe’s done an outstanding job and I think he’s going to be a great basketball coach,” Ainge said. “The next year he’s going to be a lot better and the year after that he’s going to be a lot better but it seems like he has a really good group of people around him and stafff around him. And he’s got Brad there, he’s got amazing experience. I think the team’s going to be right there in the hunt and have an opportunity to fulfill their dreams when the playoffs start if they can stay healthy.” – via Jay King @ The Athletic Coaching, Danny Ainge, Joe Mazzulla, Will Hardy, Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz
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Post by puddin on Mar 19, 2023 10:08:28 GMT -5
STUPID STUPID STUPID TEAM. Not one good decision in the final minutes of the game. We suck!! Flagrant foul.........forced shot by Tatum........and why, for the love of God, do we try to take it in on their bigs in the final five seconds with a guy who can't jump? BLOCKED!!! Stupid play, stupid design. If OR's were our trouble, WWB?? Where was Blake? This game was so freaking annoying. We made Horton-Tucker look like Andrew Toney..... ZERO defense played on Markkanen. He did the same move every time. Can't we cut that off? What the hell is wrong with them? This is also on the coach, again, for not adapting, losing another big lead, and allowing the players to be STUPID as hell!! Well, that sums it up pretty dang good...very very hard to watch this team ever since the early season run...wasted opportunity after wasted opportunity...Blake and White sitting on the bench, etc, etc... On the semi-positive side, the Cs certainly spread the PT and scoring around using a 9 player rotation with each scoring 6 or more points.
Hard to blame Smarticus (DNP) for this particular dumb-azz loss.... but certainly not impossible.
Anybody seen the latest NBA Power Rankings?
Hint.... don't you dare look in the rear view mirror!
Pud
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