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Post by Cabutan on May 28, 2022 12:23:28 GMT -5
As far as the coaching goes, Spo happens to be very good. He's the better, more experienced coach right now. A bunch of players, as I've said repeatedly, with chips on their shoulders is not an ideal matchup for us, and I've been worried this would happen since Game 1. For the Ime haters out there - It's very difficult to coach when they call dumb ass fouls on your big, and basically take him out of the game, then you put in your backup big, and they call bogus dumb ass fouls on him as well. It's difficult to coach when your best player makes a great play, and scores what could have been an and 1, only to have it waved off because your best player committed an offensive foul that both announcers said was a bad call. And Ime, last time I checked, was not out the floor when Strus and Butler hit miracle shots after the team played great D for 22 seconds. That's 5 points on pure luck right there, and we lost by 8. And let's not forget Lowry's ridiculous 30 footer, with time running out. Yep, I blame the coach for all of those bullshit shots. Who was he supposed to be covering on those shots anyway? Good grief! agree but I gotta say, those few mins PP was in, he drags a lot of attention. That might be a good thing for us to look for in the future. Whether he can get his shot off or not, the fact is that he can drive in and kick out like no other. And we needed that yesterday. I am not however blaming this on Ime. We were dumb as always. About the lucky shots, i wouldnt call them lucky when they were making every single three from the beginning.
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Post by kyceltic on May 28, 2022 12:27:23 GMT -5
As far as the coaching goes, Spo happens to be very good. He's the better, more experienced coach right now. A bunch of players, as I've said repeatedly, with chips on their shoulders is not an ideal matchup for us, and I've been worried this would happen since Game 1. For the Ime haters out there - It's very difficult to coach when they call dumb ass fouls on your big, and basically take him out of the game, then you put in your backup big, and they call bogus dumb ass fouls on him as well. It's difficult to coach when your best player makes a great play, and scores what could have been an and 1, only to have it waved off because your best player committed an offensive foul that both announcers said was a bad call. And Ime, last time I checked, was not out the floor when Strus and Butler hit miracle shots after the team played great D for 22 seconds. That's 5 points on pure luck right there, and we lost by 8. And let's not forget Lowry's ridiculous 30 footer, with time running out. Yep, I blame the coach for all of those bullshit shots. Who was he supposed to be covering on those shots anyway? Good grief! and when Tatum was called for the foul, where was our challenge, oh yeah, our coach used it early on a single free throw!!The most important play of the game and we had no challenge!
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 12:40:54 GMT -5
Payton Pritchard could not get his shot off in the first half. Payton Pritchard would not have won the game for us. White covered Butler a lot, it was not just Smart. They even waited for switches so White would be on him. That's a ludicrous observation. And, no, it's not about Draymond Green. It's about Jimmy Butler getting pissed off at something Draymond Green said. I hope in the film session today, Ime comes down on them all, but especially Smart, our "PG", who took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. Pritchard can get his shot off,and has all season, plus his man stays on him and will not double Tatum or Brown off him! Butler scored at will over Smart and White with not the hint if a double team, all on the coach! In four minutes, I saw PP attempt one contested shot. It's on the PG to get him the ball. Since he didn't get anyone the ball, PP could not shoot. If he can't shoot, he's basically useless out there. I'm sure Ime told him to go out and NOT get his shot off against this really good defense. If his man "stayed on him", then how can you say he can get his shot off??? He didn't last night, that's all that matters. With the DPOY on him, why do we need to double team Butler?? (sarcasm) When he hit that dagger, I seem to recall him shooting over two players. Want me to send the link? Spo said last night that Butler had the same looks he had in Game 5, but they went in last night. So, he put Butler in a position for him to be successful. That's his job. Smart took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. If you think that was Ime's strategy, I can't help you...........
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Post by elvissurfs on May 28, 2022 12:46:05 GMT -5
Payton Pritchard could not get his shot off in the first half. Payton Pritchard would not have won the game for us.White covered Butler a lot, it was not just Smart. They even waited for switches so White would be on him. That's a ludicrous observation. And, no, it's not about Draymond Green. It's about Jimmy Butler getting pissed off at something Draymond Green said. I hope in the film session today, Ime comes down on them all, but especially Smart, our "PG", who took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. And how in the heck on Gawd's GREEN earth do you know this?...the guy is a shooting machine, so let's just play him for under four minutes...brilliant coaching... yeah, go stick up for the coach like you always do, because you coach high school girls...that makes you an expert... You seriously do not think that he opens up the floor for Tatum and Brown because they have to guard him tight?...have you not seen him sink buckets from all over the place at will?...wth?!?...
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 12:47:44 GMT -5
As far as the coaching goes, Spo happens to be very good. He's the better, more experienced coach right now. A bunch of players, as I've said repeatedly, with chips on their shoulders is not an ideal matchup for us, and I've been worried this would happen since Game 1. For the Ime haters out there - It's very difficult to coach when they call dumb ass fouls on your big, and basically take him out of the game, then you put in your backup big, and they call bogus dumb ass fouls on him as well. It's difficult to coach when your best player makes a great play, and scores what could have been an and 1, only to have it waved off because your best player committed an offensive foul that both announcers said was a bad call. And Ime, last time I checked, was not out the floor when Strus and Butler hit miracle shots after the team played great D for 22 seconds. That's 5 points on pure luck right there, and we lost by 8. And let's not forget Lowry's ridiculous 30 footer, with time running out. Yep, I blame the coach for all of those bullshit shots. Who was he supposed to be covering on those shots anyway? Good grief! and when Tatum was called for the foul, where was our challenge, oh yeah, our coach used it early on a single free throw!!The most important play of the game and we had no challenge! Yes, I agree that was foolish to use it that early. But that did not cost us one basket, one turnover, or one lucky shot from Butler, Strus or Lowry. It's all on the players, it's always on the players. They played better, and played better in the 4th quarter. Smart made bad decisions. He's the major culprit, IMO. You want to disagree, fine.
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 12:51:02 GMT -5
Payton Pritchard could not get his shot off in the first half. Payton Pritchard would not have won the game for us.White covered Butler a lot, it was not just Smart. They even waited for switches so White would be on him. That's a ludicrous observation. And, no, it's not about Draymond Green. It's about Jimmy Butler getting pissed off at something Draymond Green said. I hope in the film session today, Ime comes down on them all, but especially Smart, our "PG", who took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. And how in the heck on Gawd's GREEN earth do you know this?...the guy is a shooting machine, so let's just play him for under four minutes...brilliant coaching... yeah, go stick up for the coach like you always do, because you coach high school girls...that makes you an expert... You seriously do not think that he opens up the floor for Tatum and Brown because they have to guard him tight?...have you not seen him sink buckets from all over the place at will?...wth?!?... Soooooo Butler abused White and Smart. Yeah, let's put Pritchard on the guy so he can get 60. That's real good coaching. And I don't recall insulting you, so if you disagree, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't make it personal. It's a basketball game, and I disagree with your assessment.........thank you for not making it personal any more.....
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Post by elvissurfs on May 28, 2022 12:51:25 GMT -5
Pritchard can get his shot off,and has all season, plus his man stays on him and will not double Tatum or Brown off him! Butler scored at will over Smart and White with not the hint if a double team, all on the coach! In four minutes, I saw PP attempt one contested shot. It's on the PG to get him the ball. Since he didn't get anyone the ball, PP could not shoot. If he can't shoot, he's basically useless out there. I'm sure Ime told him to go out and NOT get his shot off against this really good defense. If his man "stayed on him", then how can you say he can get his shot off??? He didn't last night, that's all that matters. With the DPOY on him, why do we need to double team Butler?? (sarcasm) When he hit that dagger, I seem to recall him shooting over two players. Want me to send the link? Spo said last night that Butler had the same looks he had in Game 5, but they went in last night. So, he put Butler in a position for him to be successful. That's his job. Smart took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. If you think that was Ime's strategy, I can't help you........... The J's took seven shots combined in the second half, what the heck is wrong with those guys?...and our coach for not calling them on this?...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 28, 2022 12:57:54 GMT -5
And when Nesmith gets traded, I hope it is to an eastern conference team so I can remind his doubters and Ime lovers everytime he torches us...
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 13:00:25 GMT -5
In four minutes, I saw PP attempt one contested shot. It's on the PG to get him the ball. Since he didn't get anyone the ball, PP could not shoot. If he can't shoot, he's basically useless out there. I'm sure Ime told him to go out and NOT get his shot off against this really good defense. If his man "stayed on him", then how can you say he can get his shot off??? He didn't last night, that's all that matters. With the DPOY on him, why do we need to double team Butler?? (sarcasm) When he hit that dagger, I seem to recall him shooting over two players. Want me to send the link? Spo said last night that Butler had the same looks he had in Game 5, but they went in last night. So, he put Butler in a position for him to be successful. That's his job. Smart took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. If you think that was Ime's strategy, I can't help you........... The J's took seven shots combined in the second half, what the heck is wrong with those guys?...and our coach for not calling them on this?... How do you know he didn't? Sucks to be called out, doesn't it?
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Post by Cabutan on May 28, 2022 13:00:35 GMT -5
And when Nesmith gets traded, I hope it is to an eastern conference team so I can remind his doubters and Ime lovers everytime he torches us... I hope that doesn't happen
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 13:01:03 GMT -5
And when Nesmith gets traded, I hope it is to an eastern conference team so I can remind his doubters and Ime lovers everytime he torches us... I hope we keep him and he can stay healthy and in the rotation.
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Post by Cabutan on May 28, 2022 13:02:01 GMT -5
We play better on the road. But this is game 7 we are talking about.
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Post by elvissurfs on May 28, 2022 13:28:29 GMT -5
The J's took seven shots combined in the second half, what the heck is wrong with those guys?...and our coach for not calling them on this?... How do you know he didn't? Sucks to be called out, doesn't it? Well, if he did, they sure were not listening...not good either way...
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Post by kyceltic on May 28, 2022 14:55:00 GMT -5
Pritchard can get his shot off,and has all season, plus his man stays on him and will not double Tatum or Brown off him! Butler scored at will over Smart and White with not the hint if a double team, all on the coach! In four minutes, I saw PP attempt one contested shot. It's on the PG to get him the ball. Since he didn't get anyone the ball, PP could not shoot. If he can't shoot, he's basically useless out there. I'm sure Ime told him to go out and NOT get his shot off against this really good defense. If his man "stayed on him", then how can you say he can get his shot off??? He didn't last night, that's all that matters. With the DPOY on him, why do we need to double team Butler?? (sarcasm) When he hit that dagger, I seem to recall him shooting over two players. Want me to send the link? Spo said last night that Butler had the same looks he had in Game 5, but they went in last night. So, he put Butler in a position for him to be successful. That's his job. Smart took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. If you think that was Ime's strategy, I can't help you........... Useless is 1 for 9 from 3, yet the coach leaves you out there 40 minutes! Every shot wide open because his man is doubling Tatum or Brown! It doesn't matter if Pritchard shoots or not he's a threat and his man will not leave him, so he's far from useless!
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Post by Cabutan on May 28, 2022 15:11:55 GMT -5
In four minutes, I saw PP attempt one contested shot. It's on the PG to get him the ball. Since he didn't get anyone the ball, PP could not shoot. If he can't shoot, he's basically useless out there. I'm sure Ime told him to go out and NOT get his shot off against this really good defense. If his man "stayed on him", then how can you say he can get his shot off??? He didn't last night, that's all that matters. With the DPOY on him, why do we need to double team Butler?? (sarcasm) When he hit that dagger, I seem to recall him shooting over two players. Want me to send the link? Spo said last night that Butler had the same looks he had in Game 5, but they went in last night. So, he put Butler in a position for him to be successful. That's his job. Smart took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. If you think that was Ime's strategy, I can't help you........... Useless is 1 for 9 from 3, yet the coach leaves you out there 40 minutes! Every shot wide open because his man is doubling Tatum or Brown! It doesn't matter if Pritchard shoots or not he's a threat and his man will not leave him, so he's far from useless! not only that. Anyone is welcome to go back to the previous games and see that PP has been able to get under Butler skin. He is actually a better defender than what he gets credit for. He is short but tenacious. I think no one cant measure any player by 3 minutes. But, in those three he did some good things including a kick out leading to a basket. We always bring up our inability to make baskets in stretches. But. Once again, i believe we have the players that can shoot, just not active. This includes PP. Hopefully next year we will see a more confident group from day 1 which should allow Ime to play other players. This should keep our starters healthy and help the other ones develop. If there is no patience for that then our team should follow a different approach other than develop talent.
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 15:13:47 GMT -5
In four minutes, I saw PP attempt one contested shot. It's on the PG to get him the ball. Since he didn't get anyone the ball, PP could not shoot. If he can't shoot, he's basically useless out there. I'm sure Ime told him to go out and NOT get his shot off against this really good defense. If his man "stayed on him", then how can you say he can get his shot off??? He didn't last night, that's all that matters. With the DPOY on him, why do we need to double team Butler?? (sarcasm) When he hit that dagger, I seem to recall him shooting over two players. Want me to send the link? Spo said last night that Butler had the same looks he had in Game 5, but they went in last night. So, he put Butler in a position for him to be successful. That's his job. Smart took more shots in the second half than Brown and Tatum combined. If you think that was Ime's strategy, I can't help you........... Useless is 1 for 9 from 3, yet the coach leaves you out there 40 minutes! Every shot wide open because his man is doubling Tatum or Brown! It doesn't matter if Pritchard shoots or not he's a threat and his man will not leave him, so he's far from useless! OMG - he can't cover anyone. That is, of course, what I meant. And, if he can't cover anyone, and can't get his shot off, then he shouldn't be out there even one minute, because he's basically useless.
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Post by Cabutan on May 28, 2022 15:15:38 GMT -5
Makes you wonder if the Heat was anywhere near healthy if it would been over games ago. The dumb fucks who think Grant and PP are great bench players need to stop commenting .No Thiss WTF? Smart did not play PG again he's either way on or way off . I like both grant and PP. If it wasnt for grant, we wouldnt be playing Miami today. He is obviously not effective against Miami but he worked on his game and it has shown. Theis has not been played much but the one time he got the time, he got torched. I think is a matchup thing to be honest.
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Post by Cabutan on May 28, 2022 15:17:27 GMT -5
Useless is 1 for 9 from 3, yet the coach leaves you out there 40 minutes! Every shot wide open because his man is doubling Tatum or Brown! It doesn't matter if Pritchard shoots or not he's a threat and his man will not leave him, so he's far from useless! OMG - he can't cover anyone. That is, of course, what I meant. And, if he can't cover anyone, and can't get his shot off, then he shouldn't be out there even one minute, because he's basically useless. replay those games and watch closely. He even boxes out better than alot of our bigger guys
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 15:18:18 GMT -5
Useless is 1 for 9 from 3, yet the coach leaves you out there 40 minutes! Every shot wide open because his man is doubling Tatum or Brown! It doesn't matter if Pritchard shoots or not he's a threat and his man will not leave him, so he's far from useless! not only that. Anyone is welcome to go back to the previous games and see that PP has been able to get under Butler skin. He is actually a better defender than what he gets credit for. He is short but tenacious. I think no one cant measure any player by 3 minutes. But, in those three he did some good things including a kick out leading to a basket. We always bring up our inability to make baskets in stretches. But. Once again, i believe we have the players that can shoot, just not active. This includes PP. Hopefully next year we will see a more confident group from day 1 which should allow Ime to play other players. This should keep our starters healthy and help the other ones develop. If there is no patience for that then our team should follow a different approach other than develop talent. Let's start the kid in Game 7, and tell him to guard Butler. He'll have 50 in the first half, and PP will have 4 fouls. He's an average NBA defender. Derrick White is 14th in the league in defensive rating, and he got abused by Butler. I love PP, but he is too small to guard Butler. They will just run pick and roll action until PP is on Butler, then it's over. I hope in Game 7 he hits his first shot and gives us 10-12 points off the bench. Then, in crunch time, when we need stops, he can go back and sit down, and let the grown ups play D.
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 15:19:25 GMT -5
OMG - he can't cover anyone. That is, of course, what I meant. And, if he can't cover anyone, and can't get his shot off, then he shouldn't be out there even one minute, because he's basically useless. replay those games and watch closely. He even boxes out better than alot of our bigger guys I don't have to replay the games. I remember VERY clearly last night that he DIDN'T box out, got called for a push, and we lost a hoop becuase of it.
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Post by Cabutan on May 28, 2022 15:19:32 GMT -5
not only that. Anyone is welcome to go back to the previous games and see that PP has been able to get under Butler skin. He is actually a better defender than what he gets credit for. He is short but tenacious. I think no one cant measure any player by 3 minutes. But, in those three he did some good things including a kick out leading to a basket. We always bring up our inability to make baskets in stretches. But. Once again, i believe we have the players that can shoot, just not active. This includes PP. Hopefully next year we will see a more confident group from day 1 which should allow Ime to play other players. This should keep our starters healthy and help the other ones develop. If there is no patience for that then our team should follow a different approach other than develop talent. Let's start the kid in Game 7, and tell him to guard Butler. He'll have 50 in the first half, and PP will have 4 fouls. He's an average NBA defender. Derrick White is 14th in the league in defensive rating, and he got abused by Butler. I love PP, but he is too small to guard Butler. They will just run pick and roll action until PP is on Butler, then it's over. I hope in Game 7 he hits his first shot and gives us 10-12 points off the bench. Then, in crunch time, when we need stops, he can go back and sit down, and let the grown ups play D. you are being unreasonable under the system boston plays. We dont play man to man. We switch. We solely switch. So. No one gets to play butler full time. Thats a fact.
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 15:21:16 GMT -5
Let's start the kid in Game 7, and tell him to guard Butler. He'll have 50 in the first half, and PP will have 4 fouls. He's an average NBA defender. Derrick White is 14th in the league in defensive rating, and he got abused by Butler. I love PP, but he is too small to guard Butler. They will just run pick and roll action until PP is on Butler, then it's over. I hope in Game 7 he hits his first shot and gives us 10-12 points off the bench. Then, in crunch time, when we need stops, he can go back and sit down, and let the grown ups play D. you are being unreasonable under the system boston plays. We dont play man to man. We switch. We solely switch. So. No one gets to play butler full time. Thats a fact. Right, and if White, Smart, Tatum and Brown can't stop him, what makes you think PP can......?
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Post by Cabutan on May 28, 2022 15:21:20 GMT -5
replay those games and watch closely. He even boxes out better than alot of our bigger guys I don't have to replay the games. I remember VERY clearly last night that he DIDN'T box out, got called for a push, and we lost a hoop becuase of it. because he played 3 miserable minutes. Thats 7 shot clocks?? That is approx 7 runs dup and down the court.
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 15:21:57 GMT -5
Switching IS man to man, for the record. In a zone you dont' switch.
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Post by hedleylamarr on May 28, 2022 15:22:51 GMT -5
I don't have to replay the games. I remember VERY clearly last night that he DIDN'T box out, got called for a push, and we lost a hoop becuase of it. because he played 3 miserable minutes. Thats 7 shot clocks?? That is approx 7 runs dup and down the court. And he didn't perform in the time he was given. That was a terrible foul, and it costs his team a basket.
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