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Post by dfries13 on Jan 11, 2022 21:17:26 GMT -5
Since Tatum is okay with keeping Brown, that's good enough for me! What Tatum and Brown need to do, is demand the ownership gets them some shooters or scorers! Smart hurts both Brown's and Tatum's games! Horford and Schroder hurts their games! Nesmith runs around like a chicken with his head cut off, he needs to go! Langford the same, he needs to go! The J's and RWill are the only players worth keeping! Indeed.... and to show how serious the Jays are about turning this sorry-azz franchise around... go public with your demands if management hesitates even briefly.
No sense beating around the bush.
Show what real leadership can accomplish!
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You go gurls
Pud Ky Might be rigt.. Tatum Promoted to Lord and protector like Cromwell no peasant revolt in progress. the hyped up media controls the weak minds
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Post by puddin on Jan 12, 2022 5:25:02 GMT -5
Indeed.... and to show how serious the Jays are about turning this sorry-azz franchise around... go public with your demands if management hesitates even briefly.
No sense beating around the bush.
Show what real leadership can accomplish!
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Pud Ky Might be rigt.. Tatum Promoted to Lord and protector like Cromwell no peasant revolt in progress. the hyped up media controls the weak minds How about it KY?
Why not have Mr. Ruffles and Brittle Brown go public with their "demands" for better teammates?
What do our two all-starz have to lose?
Shout it out for goodness sake.
Who knows.... Bat Man/Robin may gain respect from teammates and fans alike for showing spine.
No guts.... no glory!
Pud
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 12, 2022 8:58:03 GMT -5
KY wants a 24 year old punk in charge of the Celtics .What ever Tatum wants
No need for a coach or GM Let Tatum pick the roster and negiocate the contracts.
He's the up and coming replacemant for James
.Well see if he can build a championship team..
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Post by cole on Jan 12, 2022 9:02:06 GMT -5
Maybe a general demand that someday they go ahead and spend some money on a championship team instead of looking for bargains in the discontinued section.
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 12, 2022 9:44:01 GMT -5
Maybe a general demand that someday they go ahead and spend some money on a championship team instead of looking for bargains in the discontinued section. WYC was miss led by Ainge. Stevens contract is till 2026 Millions pissed away for nothing. Notice Pete Drew Boss and myself all agree on Stevens.. Ainge is still here he's just wearing a younger mans clothes.
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Post by cole on Jan 12, 2022 10:10:48 GMT -5
Maybe a general demand that someday they go ahead and spend some money on a championship team instead of looking for bargains in the discontinued section. WYC was miss led by Ainge. Stevens contract is till 2026 Millions pissed away for nothing. Notice Pete Drew Boss and myself all agree on Stevens.. Ainge is still here he's just wearing a younger mans clothes. Technically Brad wears an older man's clothes. And buttons them to the top. But yeah it was obvious when Danny went out after brad he was bringing on a mini-me.
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Post by drewski6 on Jan 12, 2022 10:41:45 GMT -5
RI! Did we discuss this previously? Im on the cranston/prov line No, we never discussed it. I moved in November to Cumberland Ah, I have a friend in Cumberland who is a HUGE celtics fan...We'll have to exchange contact info.
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Post by drewski6 on Jan 12, 2022 10:43:15 GMT -5
KY wants a 24 year old punk in charge of the Celtics .What ever Tatum wants No need for a coach or GM Let Tatum pick the roster and negiocate the contracts. He's the up and coming replacemant for James .Well see if he can build a championship team.. Well his first act would probably to free up cap room to offer Beal a max this offseason so we'll have Beal, Brown, Tatum. And its hard to see a better move.
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Post by drewski6 on Jan 12, 2022 10:56:20 GMT -5
KY wants a 24 year old punk in charge of the Celtics .What ever Tatum wants No need for a coach or GM Let Tatum pick the roster and negiocate the contracts. He's the up and coming replacemant for James .Well see if he can build a championship team.. Well his first act would probably to free up cap room to offer Beal a max this offseason so we'll have Beal, Brown, Tatum. And its hard to see a better move. Max for Beal would be 41.6M. If we flip Horford this year (dont want any portion of his salary counting next year towards the cap), Richardson (cap casualty), Langford, Pritchard, and Nesmith (good riddance to all 3), should flip schroder (but his contracts expiring anyways), Smart (cap casualty) we'll have: Tatum, Brown, RWill, Gwill = 72m next year + Beals 41.6 = 114M. 119m salary cap next year, so cant do it (need 9 or 10 more spots , which have placeholders at just under 1 mil) Which simply means Rwill and Gwill have to go too. Move them also and we are at 99M with just the 3 (Beal, Brown, Tatum). But remember you can go over the cap once you have Beal inked. Free agency will likely be June 30th. Which is good cuz we'll have TT TPE (10m) and fournier tpe (17m) , and maybe even an MLE too so we'll be able to add players there even if over the cap (by moving the picks we'll receive from gutting the whole team minus the jays). Remember: you can break the TPEs into multiple players. You can get a 9m guy and an 8m guy w fourniers TPE (for example) So if we made Tatum pseudo GM (a la Bron), he'd prob go this direction. And I would agree with it.
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 12, 2022 11:36:50 GMT -5
KY wants a 24 year old punk in charge of the Celtics .What ever Tatum wants No need for a coach or GM Let Tatum pick the roster and negiocate the contracts. He's the up and coming replacemant for James .Well see if he can build a championship team.. If you're gonna call someone a punk, at least get their age right! Tatum's 23!!
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 12, 2022 11:45:51 GMT -5
WYC was miss led by Ainge. Stevens contract is till 2026 Millions pissed away for nothing. Notice Pete Drew Boss and myself all agree on Stevens.. Ainge is still here he's just wearing a younger mans clothes. Technically Brad wears an older man's clothes. And buttons them to the top. But yeah it was obvious when Danny went out after brad he was bringing on a mini-me. Actually Ainge did a masterful job of getting Kyrie, Hayward, Horford, Brown and Tatum, on one team! We had the pieces for at least two more titles, if everything went according to plan!
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 12, 2022 12:12:42 GMT -5
Now for a little good news!! Smart is out tonight! carry on!
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Post by puddin on Jan 12, 2022 12:54:24 GMT -5
Technically Brad wears an older man's clothes. And buttons them to the top. But yeah it was obvious when Danny went out after brad he was bringing on a mini-me. Actually Ainge did a masterful job of getting Kyrie, Hayward, Horford, Brown and Tatum, on one team! We had the pieces for at least two more titles, if everything went according to plan! A masterful job of recruiting all that talent onto one team... and best of all, we had Austin as Director of Player Personnel.
Turns out the only one really committed to staying for those multiple titles??? Kyrie Hayward Horford Brown Tatum Austin.
Some plan!
Pud
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 12, 2022 12:58:48 GMT -5
Technically Brad wears an older man's clothes. And buttons them to the top. But yeah it was obvious when Danny went out after brad he was bringing on a mini-me. Actually Ainge did a masterful job of getting Kyrie, Hayward, Horford, Brown and Tatum, on one team! We had the pieces for at least two more titles, if everything went according to plan! and''if'' a frog had wings... .well you know. Smart is out....Schroder and PP gets showcased. .But is any team watching? nah
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 12, 2022 14:17:56 GMT -5
Haters gonna hate!!!
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Post by kivancb on Jan 12, 2022 14:33:00 GMT -5
Well his first act would probably to free up cap room to offer Beal a max this offseason so we'll have Beal, Brown, Tatum. And its hard to see a better move. Max for Beal would be 41.6M. If we flip Horford this year (dont want any portion of his salary counting next year towards the cap), Richardson (cap casualty), Langford, Pritchard, and Nesmith (good riddance to all 3), should flip schroder (but his contracts expiring anyways), Smart (cap casualty) we'll have: Tatum, Brown, RWill, Gwill = 72m next year + Beals 41.6 = 114M. 119m salary cap next year, so cant do it (need 9 or 10 more spots , which have placeholders at just under 1 mil) Which simply means Rwill and Gwill have to go too. Move them also and we are at 99M with just the 3 (Beal, Brown, Tatum). But remember you can go over the cap once you have Beal inked. Free agency will likely be June 30th. Which is good cuz we'll have TT TPE (10m) and fournier tpe (17m) , and maybe even an MLE too so we'll be able to add players there even if over the cap (by moving the picks we'll receive from gutting the whole team minus the jays). Remember: you can break the TPEs into multiple players. You can get a 9m guy and an 8m guy w fourniers TPE (for example) So if we made Tatum pseudo GM (a la Bron), he'd prob go this direction. And I would agree with it. I simply don't want Bradley Beal at max. He's regressing to the mean already - Both Tatum and Brown are better players than him and the gap between Beal and them will only increase in time. Forget the Beal sweepstakes - it just won't and shouldn't happen.
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 12, 2022 14:40:19 GMT -5
Max for Beal would be 41.6M. If we flip Horford this year (dont want any portion of his salary counting next year towards the cap), Richardson (cap casualty), Langford, Pritchard, and Nesmith (good riddance to all 3), should flip schroder (but his contracts expiring anyways), Smart (cap casualty) we'll have: Tatum, Brown, RWill, Gwill = 72m next year + Beals 41.6 = 114M. 119m salary cap next year, so cant do it (need 9 or 10 more spots , which have placeholders at just under 1 mil) Which simply means Rwill and Gwill have to go too. Move them also and we are at 99M with just the 3 (Beal, Brown, Tatum). But remember you can go over the cap once you have Beal inked. Free agency will likely be June 30th. Which is good cuz we'll have TT TPE (10m) and fournier tpe (17m) , and maybe even an MLE too so we'll be able to add players there even if over the cap (by moving the picks we'll receive from gutting the whole team minus the jays). Remember: you can break the TPEs into multiple players. You can get a 9m guy and an 8m guy w fourniers TPE (for example) So if we made Tatum pseudo GM (a la Bron), he'd prob go this direction. And I would agree with it. I simply don't want Bradley Beal at max. He's regressing to the mean already - Both Tatum and Brown are better players than him and the gap between Beal and them will only increase in time. Forget the Beal sweepstakes - it just won't and shouldn't happen. Yeah, I agree!
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 12, 2022 14:44:49 GMT -5
Remember boys, Paul Pierce had to threaten To leave, before they got KG and Ray!! Tatum and Brown have more leverage now than he did then!
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Post by drewski6 on Jan 12, 2022 15:02:58 GMT -5
Max for Beal would be 41.6M. If we flip Horford this year (dont want any portion of his salary counting next year towards the cap), Richardson (cap casualty), Langford, Pritchard, and Nesmith (good riddance to all 3), should flip schroder (but his contracts expiring anyways), Smart (cap casualty) we'll have: Tatum, Brown, RWill, Gwill = 72m next year + Beals 41.6 = 114M. 119m salary cap next year, so cant do it (need 9 or 10 more spots , which have placeholders at just under 1 mil) Which simply means Rwill and Gwill have to go too. Move them also and we are at 99M with just the 3 (Beal, Brown, Tatum). But remember you can go over the cap once you have Beal inked. Free agency will likely be June 30th. Which is good cuz we'll have TT TPE (10m) and fournier tpe (17m) , and maybe even an MLE too so we'll be able to add players there even if over the cap (by moving the picks we'll receive from gutting the whole team minus the jays). Remember: you can break the TPEs into multiple players. You can get a 9m guy and an 8m guy w fourniers TPE (for example) So if we made Tatum pseudo GM (a la Bron), he'd prob go this direction. And I would agree with it. I simply don't want Bradley Beal at max. He's regressing to the mean already - Both Tatum and Brown are better players than him and the gap between Beal and them will only increase in time. Forget the Beal sweepstakes - it just won't and shouldn't happen. He was off too an awful start of the season, but has looked like himself since late Dec or so. Not sure who you would really want instead, as there's not much available this offseason in term of FA and we dont have many tradeable chips to land a star on that front. Im pretty sick of playing musical chairs with the JAGs (just a guy)
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Post by kivancb on Jan 12, 2022 15:10:38 GMT -5
I simply don't want Bradley Beal at max. He's regressing to the mean already - Both Tatum and Brown are better players than him and the gap between Beal and them will only increase in time. Forget the Beal sweepstakes - it just won't and shouldn't happen. He was off too an awful start of the season, but has looked like himself since late Dec or so. Not sure who you would really want instead, as there's not much available this offseason in term of FA and we dont have many tradeable chips to land a star on that front. Im pretty sick of playing musical chairs with the JAGs (just a guy) If he should sign a 4 year 120m contract with us, fine. But a 4 year 170m contract would completely gut our team. I'd better get De'Aaron Fox than Beal, and Fox is also having a not too fine year either, but he fills a need - he's a PG, while Beal is not.
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 12, 2022 15:30:08 GMT -5
we all know ya hate Smart don't be so hard on yourself. need counseling? I can help
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 12, 2022 15:33:23 GMT -5
no no no on Beal.
His career is all downhill and he's not a PG or a good defender
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 12, 2022 16:36:23 GMT -5
we all know ya hate Smart don't be so hard on yourself. need counseling? I can help I don't hate Smart, he's just not any Good! He probably has the most untradable contract on the Celtics! In my long career I've hated two players, Jabber and Laimbeer!!
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Post by dfries13 on Jan 12, 2022 16:47:12 GMT -5
we all know ya hate Smart don't be so hard on yourself. need counseling? I can help I don't hate Smart, he's just not any Good! He probably has the most untradable contract on the Celtics! In my long career I've hated two players, Jabber and Laimbeer!! Laimbeer Mahorn and Thomas for me. 3 days before Smart can be traded i believe.... I can't comment because........ Pud
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 12, 2022 17:05:22 GMT -5
I don't hate Smart, he's just not any Good! He probably has the most untradable contract on the Celtics! In my long career I've hated two players, Jabber and Laimbeer!! Laimbeer Mahorn and Thomas for me. 3 days before Smart can be traded i believe.... I can't comment because........ Pud Mahorn was very close to hate! Bird said in one of his books, that Magic and Ishiah was at his home in French Lick, and Birds mom was all over Thomas making sure he had enough to eat, while Bird and Magic was left to wait on themselves!
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