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Post by elvissurfs on May 12, 2021 21:40:58 GMT -5
What team?...
Brown, Nesmith, and Tacko/Pritchard are the only keepers... I love RWill, but not confident his big body can hang in this league...he is the beast who can make a huge difference...Tatum is gone...he aint going to stick around and deal with Ainge and Coach BS...as in bull shite...
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Post by puddin on May 12, 2021 21:42:26 GMT -5
If the Hornets and Pacers win 2 games and we lose 2 that we will be out of playoffs completely! That would be so fitting ... Why not end the season running the table!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 21:51:20 GMT -5
Just the opposite of Shoot The Moon.. We do it all the time in Virginie..
There are no "sandbags" in Rook (penalties for underbidding your hand), nore "going nil" (making a certain number of points by not taking any points at all). A player may announce his intent to "Shoot the Moon," however, which means he is awarded twice the points if he wins, and loses twice the amount bid if he fails to make the bid.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 21:59:17 GMT -5
So we play the Cavs tonight and they have 8 players out:
Yep and were the ist team to lose to a team with 8 players out.
It's a record not likely to ever be broken.........
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 22:18:48 GMT -5
Looks like Tatum is done with the season. So are the Celts. A little late to jockey for lottery positioning!
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Post by billge on May 12, 2021 22:24:28 GMT -5
Elvis, I agree with your keepers, but see too much potential to let Robert Williams go, and I might try to keep Fournier too.
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2021 22:26:54 GMT -5
B/R believes Cs should have traded for Myles Turnerby Mark Nilon Paul Rutherford-USA TODAY Sports
The Boston Celtics are now losers of three straight and four of their last five as we venture towards the finish line of the 2020-21 regular season.
A year that once started with such promise and high potential now finds itself flatlined and completely depleted, ravaged by injuries and disappointing performances galore.
When looking back, it’s easy to see just how far this mighty Cs team has fallen. Whilst looking back, it’s certainly an entertaining (and partially sad) game to play to see what could have been done to alter this reality in which we currently find ourselves in.
From draft strategy to offseason dealings, there are quite a few different things the team’s front office could have done to at least give Boston a better shot of contending than in comparison to where they are now.
Even at this year’s trade deadline, we at HH are under the impression that a few alterations to their final decisions could have gone a long way for this ball club. Apparently, the folks at Bleacher Report also believe different moves should have been made back in late March, though they are set on one specific transaction: a deal for Myles Turner.
In fact, writer Zach Buckley recently concocted a trade that he believes should have transpired at the deadline and the meat of it reads as follows:
Citing their desperate need for defensive improvements coupled with their ample recourses to execute such a deal, Buckley believes, instead of pursuing the likes of Evan Fournier for scoring purposes, the Boston Celtics should have pursued Turner and his specific skill set instead:
Interestingly enough, the move that Danny Ainge ultimately made actually has worked out better now with the loss of Jaylen Brown for the remainder of the season, for Fournier — though not the talent that Brown is — can slide right into the vacated wing slot and somewhat make up the difference for the star’s offensive contributions.
That said, we’ve been preaching for a Myles Turner to the Boston Celtics trade for quite some time now, so you know we would have loved to have seen this hypothetical scenario finally become a reality.
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Post by elvissurfs on May 12, 2021 22:49:50 GMT -5
Elvis, I agree with your keepers, but see too much potential to let Robert Williams go, and I might try to keep Fournier too. Ok...I like the positivity!...
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Post by elvissurfs on May 12, 2021 22:53:50 GMT -5
B/R believes Cs should have traded for Myles Turnerby Mark Nilon Paul Rutherford-USA TODAY Sports
The Boston Celtics are now losers of three straight and four of their last five as we venture towards the finish line of the 2020-21 regular season.
A year that once started with such promise and high potential now finds itself flatlined and completely depleted, ravaged by injuries and disappointing performances galore.
When looking back, it’s easy to see just how far this mighty Cs team has fallen. Whilst looking back, it’s certainly an entertaining (and partially sad) game to play to see what could have been done to alter this reality in which we currently find ourselves in.
From draft strategy to offseason dealings, there are quite a few different things the team’s front office could have done to at least give Boston a better shot of contending than in comparison to where they are now.
Even at this year’s trade deadline, we at HH are under the impression that a few alterations to their final decisions could have gone a long way for this ball club. Apparently, the folks at Bleacher Report also believe different moves should have been made back in late March, though they are set on one specific transaction: a deal for Myles Turner.
In fact, writer Zach Buckley recently concocted a trade that he believes should have transpired at the deadline and the meat of it reads as follows:
Citing their desperate need for defensive improvements coupled with their ample recourses to execute such a deal, Buckley believes, instead of pursuing the likes of Evan Fournier for scoring purposes, the Boston Celtics should have pursued Turner and his specific skill set instead:
Interestingly enough, the move that Danny Ainge ultimately made actually has worked out better now with the loss of Jaylen Brown for the remainder of the season, for Fournier — though not the talent that Brown is — can slide right into the vacated wing slot and somewhat make up the difference for the star’s offensive contributions.
That said, we’ve been preaching for a Myles Turner to the Boston Celtics trade for quite some time now, so you know we would have loved to have seen this hypothetical scenario finally become a reality.
So basically we would have got Myles Turner and we would have given up nothing?...
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 23:28:33 GMT -5
Its no so Bad .. We have Tatum and Brown locked up for years
We need to unload Walker if we have to pay part of his contract up draft picks or give or PP or Nesmith..
We heed to get any center who can run and play defense and hopefully THU a trade of TT..
One 6'4'' or taller Pg who can play some damn d and pass the damn ball...
While staying under the cap because next year holds but two bright spots Tatum and Brown will respond better to a new coach .....
Did i say it wasn't so bad.? I Misspoke i recon...
Oh A real PF full time bruiser who can spread the floor...
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Post by Cabutan on May 13, 2021 8:27:24 GMT -5
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Post by kyceltic on May 13, 2021 9:31:35 GMT -5
If I owned the Celtics and looked out on the floor and down the bench, at the team that was playing last night, I would immediately call Danny Ainge and fire him! And if I were Ainge, I would resign in embarrassment!!
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Post by kyceltic on May 13, 2021 9:36:43 GMT -5
Looking back, we should have known how our season was gonna turn out!! It all started to go downhill, when Ainge didn't pull the trigger on the trade for Turner and McDermott!!
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Post by Cabutan on May 13, 2021 9:43:24 GMT -5
Looking back, we should have known how our season was gonna turn out!! It all started to go downhill, when Ainge didn't pull the trigger on the trade for Turner and McDermott!! we dont know what they could have brought. I say more likely when Hayward decided to leave.
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Post by Cabutan on May 13, 2021 9:46:27 GMT -5
We have enough to be a nuisance. What a joke pathetic coach. We couldnt be a nuisance to the Cavs.
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Post by solly on May 13, 2021 10:17:09 GMT -5
We have enough to be a nuisance. What a joke pathetic coach. We couldnt be a nuisance to the Cavs. The coach doesn’t play, your anger is misguided
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Post by petey62 on May 13, 2021 10:20:43 GMT -5
We have enough to be a nuisance. What a joke pathetic coach. We couldnt be a nuisance to the Cavs. Yeah, I read that too. So, our goal in the playoffs is to be a "nuisance"? Pathetic. It's time for him to go.
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Post by petey62 on May 13, 2021 10:36:55 GMT -5
We have enough to be a nuisance. What a joke pathetic coach. We couldnt be a nuisance to the Cavs. The coach doesn’t play, your anger is misguided Solly, do you believe that the GM and coach bear little to no responsibility for the product on the court? Do you blame the players MOST for the product on the court? Or can you place MOST of the blame on the GM for selecting the groceries and the coach for cooking the meal? If I go out and buy a 3rd rate prime rib piece of meat wholesale and you, the chef, fail to properly season and prepare that prime rib, you and I are to blame when the product placed on a customer's table is substandard.On the other hand, if I go out and buy a 3rd rate prime rib piece of mean wholesale and you, the chef, hook that meat up with amazing seasoning and preparation, customers are gonna compliment the chef for delivering an amazing product to the table. The groceries are substandard on the Celtics and there is little to no oversight to improve the product. DA has failed in his assembling of a cohesive team and BS has failed in how he prepares and directs the performance of that team (best game plan, best rotations, best use of players, in-game adjustments, consistency in all of those areas so players know their roles). It really appears that the players have their own agenda and they are not listening to BS. It just seems, to me, that he has lost these guys.
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Post by Cabutan on May 13, 2021 10:38:42 GMT -5
We have enough to be a nuisance. What a joke pathetic coach. We couldnt be a nuisance to the Cavs. Yeah, I read that too. So, our goal in the playoffs is to be a "nuisance"? Pathetic. It's time for him to go. Thats what he always strives for. .500 mentality
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Post by solly on May 13, 2021 10:49:43 GMT -5
The coach doesn’t play, your anger is misguided Solly, do you believe that the GM and coach bear little to no responsibility for the product on the court? Do you blame the players MOST for the product on the court? Or can you place MOST of the blame on the GM for selecting the groceries and the coach for cooking the meal? If I go out and buy a 3rd rate prime rib piece of meat wholesale and you, the chef, fail to properly season and prepare that prime rib, you and I are to blame when the product placed on a customer's table is substandard.On the other hand, if I go out and buy a 3rd rate prime rib piece of mean wholesale and you, the chef, hook that meat up with amazing seasoning and preparation, customers are gonna compliment the chef for delivering an amazing product to the table. The groceries are substandard on the Celtics and there is little to no oversight to improve the product. DA has failed in his assembling of a cohesive team and BS has failed in how he prepares and directs the performance of that team (best game plan, best rotations, best use of players, in-game adjustments, consistency in all of those areas so players know their roles). It really appears that the players have their own agenda and they are not listening to BS. It just seems, to me, that he has lost these guys. I’d say they bear little responsibility, Ainge more than Stevens for sure. I agree there are some moves that ainge has failed to make or decided not to make that I think help the team. When it comes down to it, the team is pretty good roster wise, with some holes. It’s incredibly hard to build in the NBA, just because you have picks doesn’t mean they work. The truly great player in the NBA is so rare that simply having bulk opportunities doesn’t mean you’ll hit. The coaching aspect, is completely overrated as I’m sure we know my opinion. To think that Brad, or any coach is actually controlling the game from the sidelines is naive imo. The players and their talent control the game. Could rotations be better? Sure. They had enough talent to make a deep run in the playoffs if the players weren’t selfish, immature, iso hungry who don’t give effort. We have seen Brad coached teams play hard, execute on offense, move the ball, and run out of talent in the playoffs...the difference between those years and now is the roster. The players have 100% tuned him out. Is that the coaches fault? These guys are grown men, they are paid lots of money to play a game. If they choose to not listen and not try...that’s on them. JVG agreed as he stated that this week. I have also said I don’t care, move the coach...get Chauncey. I think the same issues will arise. At the end of the day, the players in this league way more than most, are responsible for the outcome of games
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Post by petey62 on May 13, 2021 10:58:37 GMT -5
Solly, very good points. But I believe a coach can "get to" players so they perform and execute and play harder.
The Knicks have had the same players but Tom Thibodeau turned something on in them. The Hawks were the same team but Nate McMillan is doing "something" that has this team focused and playing a lot differently than they were for their previous coach.
For me, the coach has the responsibility to get to his players and BS has lost that ability.
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Post by solly on May 13, 2021 11:09:45 GMT -5
Solly, very good points. But I believe a coach can "get to" players so they perform and execute and play harder. The Knicks have had the same players but Tom Thibodeau turned something on in them. The Hawks were the same team but Nate McMillan is doing "something" that has this team focused and playing a lot differently than they were for their previous coach. For me, the coach has the responsibility to get to his players and BS has lost that ability. And both teams will accomplish nothing in the playoffs. Those teams lack elite talent, they play hard to win...just like the 2016 Celtics. The Celtics now have better talent, but the inflated self worth of the players has impeded their ability to perform as a team. Like I said they may be forced to move from Brad. I move Brad over any talented player, regardless of any issues...but to blame this teams performance on the coach is just misplacing anger and blame imo The Celtics went from overachievers to pathetic underachievers as the roster changed. The coach always was the same person
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Post by Cabutan on May 13, 2021 11:20:42 GMT -5
Conditioned minds will never get to see the big picture. They made us believe Stevens was all that and we fell for it. Not a bad coach, thats not whats happening in here. He is just not great. Cant motivate, cant reach and perhaps cant relate to the players to make them feel special and capable of competing. We dont have a perfect roster but we dont have a 500 roster. We are better than that. But enough. I cant come here and diagram it for you with clay and construction paper.
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Post by Admin on May 13, 2021 12:31:00 GMT -5
Solly, very good points. But I believe a coach can "get to" players so they perform and execute and play harder. The Knicks have had the same players but Tom Thibodeau turned something on in them. The Hawks were the same team but Nate McMillan is doing "something" that has this team focused and playing a lot differently than they were for their previous coach. For me, the coach has the responsibility to get to his players and BS has lost that ability. And both teams will accomplish nothing in the playoffs. Those teams lack elite talent, they play hard to win...just like the 2016 Celtics. The Celtics now have better talent, but the inflated self worth of the players has impeded their ability to perform as a team. Like I said they may be forced to move from Brad. I move Brad over any talented player, regardless of any issues...but to blame this teams performance on the coach is just misplacing anger and blame imo The Celtics went from overachievers to pathetic underachievers as the roster changed. The coach always was the same person
The Sixers will now that Doc has gotten that roster to "pay attention."
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Post by Cabutan on May 13, 2021 12:50:20 GMT -5
And both teams will accomplish nothing in the playoffs. Those teams lack elite talent, they play hard to win...just like the 2016 Celtics. The Celtics now have better talent, but the inflated self worth of the players has impeded their ability to perform as a team. Like I said they may be forced to move from Brad. I move Brad over any talented player, regardless of any issues...but to blame this teams performance on the coach is just misplacing anger and blame imo The Celtics went from overachievers to pathetic underachievers as the roster changed. The coach always was the same person
The Sixers will now that Doc has gotten that roster to "pay attention."
i mentioned gary clark here, as soon as JB went down, the sixers signed gary clark. Chess move?? I believe so. If Ainge really wanted to try this tournament, he would have quickly picked someone up.
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