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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:21:09 GMT -5
Brooklyn pushed all its chips in the center of the table to acquire Harden and form a superstar trio with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. “They better win it in the next two years,” a rival Eastern Conference executive told HoopsHype. “It’ll be interesting to see how all these players and personalities get along together.” – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype
Trade, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Brooklyn Nets
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 11:21:34 GMT -5
I read yesterday Kyrie is pulling a hissy fit because he was not involved in selecting the new coach, and he didn't want Nash............good grief Celtic fans are not surprised with what's happening in Brooklyn. We went through that in 2019. That's why I said it was dumb to proclaim the Nets finals bound 2 games into the season. 13 games into the season and it's different Brooklyn team from what we saw in game 2 of the season. |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:21:52 GMT -5
If you answered “yes” to that question, such a deal likely would have required the Celtics to part ways with rising star Jaylen Brown. Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated said on Wednesday’s Early Edition that was a move Ainge was not interested in making. “Under no circumstances if you’re Boston do you make any kind of offer that includes Jaylen Brown. That was really the Celtics’ mindset for the last couple of months. There was no significant interest in a deal that involved Jaylen Brown. The Celtics are simply operating on a completely different timetable than the Brooklyn Nets. Their stars are Kevin Durant at 32 [years old] and Kyrie Irving at 29. You’ve got the Celtics with [Marcus] Smart, [Jayson] Tatum, Brown, a whole bunch of younger guys they’re trying to develop in their mid to early 20s. – via Justin Leger @ NBC Sports
Top Rumors, Trade, James Harden, Jaylen Brown, Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Boston Celtics, Brooklyn Nets
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 11:25:31 GMT -5
Brooklyn sacrificed defense and depth when they traded for Harden.
In a playoff series, opposing coaches will exploit the weak defense of Harden and Kyrie.
It was extremely difficult to score inside the paint when Jarrett Allen was in there.
I just don't think Brooklyn is a balanced team.
Too much offense and not enough defense.
It will be like facing the Houston and Phoenix teams of D'Antoni.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 14, 2021 11:28:16 GMT -5
Nikola Vucevic and Aaron Gordon for DTheis and Marcus Smart and TPE and
Future picks and pick swaps (6 picks total)
What do you guys think?
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 14, 2021 11:29:13 GMT -5
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:29:33 GMT -5
Nikola Vucevic and Aaron Gordon for DTheis and Marcus Smart and TPE and Future picks and pick swaps (6 picks total) What do you guys think? I think that is highway robbery for us. ORL is in the playoffs right now, so I don't think they'll make any trades |
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Post by hedleylamarr on Jan 14, 2021 11:31:06 GMT -5
Yes, he's a stud, and, of all the people mentioned, he'd be my number ONE choice. However, after the Harden trade, what would ORL want in a trade for him? We need to wait and see how ORL does in the next month or so |
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 14, 2021 11:34:21 GMT -5
Yes, he's a stud, and, of all the people mentioned, he'd be my number ONE choice. However, after the Harden trade, what would ORL want in a trade for him? We need to wait and see how ORL does in the next month or so This is the organization that low ball Shaquille O'Neal. So they can be stupid. So I'm hoping they are looking to rebuild since they've had these guys for a while and things are kind of stale with their fan base I think. |
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 14, 2021 11:35:07 GMT -5
I admit we may need Kemba Walker to make this work.
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 11:36:52 GMT -5
Nikola Vucevic and Aaron Gordon for DTheis and Marcus Smart and TPE and Future picks and pick swaps (6 picks total) What do you guys think? That trade won't work because you can't combine the TPE with another player or players. And Celts don't need another Center right now. I think the best case scenario is the Celts getting Aaron Gordon. There's really a need to upgrade the PF position. Someone better than Semi and GWill will make the Celts better. |
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 14, 2021 11:37:28 GMT -5
If we were able to use the Gordon Hayward TPE on Aaron Gordon that's a difference of 10 million in salary, so does the difference go to waste?
18mil vs 28mil.
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 14, 2021 11:39:03 GMT -5
Nikola Vucevic and Aaron Gordon for DTheis and Marcus Smart and TPE and Future picks and pick swaps (6 picks total) What do you guys think? That trade won't work because you can't combine the TPE with another player or players. And Celts don't need another Center right now. I think the best case scenario is the Celts getting Aaron Gordon. There's really a need to upgrade the PF position. Someone better than Semi and GWill will make the Celts better. TPE was for Vooch. Players and picks were for Gordon. 2 seperate trades |
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 11:39:41 GMT -5
I admit we may need Kemba Walker to make this work. Kemba's not the problem. If we're getting the Kemba Walker of the 1st round against Philly, the Celts will be up there with the top teams of the east. Kemba averaged 24.3 ppg against the Sixers in the 1st round. |
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 14, 2021 11:40:38 GMT -5
I admit we may need Kemba Walker to make this work. Kemba's not the problem. If we're getting the Kemba Walker of the 1st round against Philly, the Celts will be up there with the top teams of the east. Kemba averaged 24.3 ppg against the Sixers in the 1st round. Not suggesting he is a problem. He is our most valuable asset that in my opinion is expendable. |
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Post by solly on Jan 14, 2021 11:40:54 GMT -5
Brooklyn sacrificed defense and depth when they traded for Harden. In a playoff series, opposing coaches will exploit the weak defense of Harden and Kyrie. It was extremely difficult to score inside the paint when Jarrett Allen was in there. I just don't think Brooklyn is a balanced team. Too much offense and not enough defense. It will be like facing the Houston and Phoenix teams of D'Antoni. Only Fierce would say the Celtics team isnt complete yet, but basically insinuate BKN is. We can talk about the rosters going into the playoffs |
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 11:41:06 GMT -5
If we were able to use the Gordon Hayward TPE on Aaron Gordon that's a difference of 10 million in salary, so does the difference go to waste? 18mil vs 28mil. Right now the Celts can only use 21m out of the 28.5m. Reason for that is the Celts are hard capped. If the Celts will only use 18m then the 10m can still be used on another player. The difference does not go to waste. |
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 11:41:48 GMT -5
That trade won't work because you can't combine the TPE with another player or players. And Celts don't need another Center right now. I think the best case scenario is the Celts getting Aaron Gordon. There's really a need to upgrade the PF position. Someone better than Semi and GWill will make the Celts better. TPE was for Vooch. Players and picks were for Gordon. 2 seperate trades Right now Celts can only use 21m out of the 28.5m. |
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Post by DaCeltics on Jan 14, 2021 11:42:30 GMT -5
If we were able to use the Gordon Hayward TPE on Aaron Gordon that's a difference of 10 million in salary, so does the difference go to waste? 18mil vs 28mil. Right now the Celts can only use 21m out of the 28.5m. Reason for that is the Celts are hard capped. If the Celts will only use 18m then the 10m can still be used on another player. The difference does not go to waste. I appreciate you dude! |
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 11:43:12 GMT -5
Kemba's not the problem. If we're getting the Kemba Walker of the 1st round against Philly, the Celts will be up there with the top teams of the east. Kemba averaged 24.3 ppg against the Sixers in the 1st round. Not suggesting he is a problem. He is our most valuable asset that in my opinion is expendable. Kemba is not expendable. It was a choice between Hayward and Kemba. If Hayward was still in Boston then Kemba would be expendable. But Celts can't lose both Kemba and Hayward. It's true that Kemba's scoring is very important for the Cs. |
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Post by cole on Jan 14, 2021 11:43:22 GMT -5
The Nets and 76ers were the two teams battling it out for Harden’s services at the end of the race, but Philly felt the Rockets were using them as leverage to extract as many assets from the Nets, Harden’s preferred destination, a league source told HoopsHype. – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype Top Rumors, Trade, James Harden, Brooklyn Nets, Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers If you're phili you want the nets fleeced, so you probably would go along as long as possible...maybe even make up some sh... |
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Post by fierce on Jan 14, 2021 11:46:55 GMT -5
The Nets and 76ers were the two teams battling it out for Harden’s services at the end of the race, but Philly felt the Rockets were using them as leverage to extract as many assets from the Nets, Harden’s preferred destination, a league source told HoopsHype. – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype Top Rumors, Trade, James Harden, Brooklyn Nets, Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers If you're phili you want the nets fleeced, so you probably would go along as long as possible...maybe even make up some sh... Philly succeeded IMO. Right now Philly would beat the Nets in a 7-game series. Doc Rivers would exploit Brooklyn's lack of size and defense in a 7-game series. The Nets' best 5 would be KD, Harden, Kyrie, Joe Harris, and DeAndre. Sixers would dominate the Nets in the half-court. |
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Post by solly on Jan 14, 2021 11:50:07 GMT -5
If you're phili you want the nets fleeced, so you probably would go along as long as possible...maybe even make up some sh... Philly succeeded IMO. Right now Philly would beat the Nets in a 7-game series. Doc Rivers would exploit Brooklyn's lack of size and defense in a 7-game series. The Nets' best 5 would be KD, Harden, Kyrie, Joe Harris, and DeAndre. Sixers would dominate the Nets in the half-court. Disagree, the Sixers playing a half court game eliminates their second best player on the offensive end. THey dont have nearly enough scoring to match the Nets. The nets should be dominant in the half court offensively |
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Post by kyceltic on Jan 14, 2021 11:56:10 GMT -5
Nikola Vucevic and Aaron Gordon for DTheis and Marcus Smart and TPE and Future picks and pick swaps (6 picks total) What do you guys think? In a minute! |
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Post by croc on Jan 14, 2021 11:57:24 GMT -5
Re the TPE clubs will want value coming back. Right now the least expensive talent with upside is Pritchard. I'm thinking he'd be in the asking price somewhere.
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