Pick the later its the most likely in the long run....
Conley and Mitchell both are poor defenders. I could score 20 against either one.
What has cost us the most this year... Signing .Poiner and losing Baynes. Baynes scored 37 the other night.. Poiner hasn't scored 37 total all year......
I Like this team..? Brad is a great coach? Well i fib a whole lot also..? One of these statements is true...
Didn't seem to have much choice last night.
Smart was the only one stepping up.
Anyone considering a cruise ship vacation this year?
Tickets are available.... cheap!
Pud
No cruise ship.. Have a extra donkey if a want to head south.
No he had to shoot last night.. You expect him to be a consistent scorer?
What do i need or expect? Peaches they are budding here in early March a month too soon.. Let me know if GA goes down with VA AGAIN..
Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 7, 2020 12:17:45 GMT -5
I love Smart.......but he really does some dumb things sometimes. Conley was dead in the water..STAY DOWN....no need to foul the guy way out there after he lost his dribble.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives!!
Post by hedleylamarr on Mar 7, 2020 12:20:13 GMT -5
Our starting 5 has still only been together 19 games this year. I really believe that with Smart, Kanter, Wanamaker, and ONE other player (it can vary game to game), we can beat everyone but MIL in the East. Hope I'm right
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives!!
I don't see why Danny can't trade Poirier for a 2nd rd draft pick to another team under the cap. Opens a roster spot for a vet free agent.
He keeps claiming that he can't waive Poirier because of his guaranteed contract:
Vincent Poirier signed a 2 year / $5,125,000 contract with the Boston Celtics, including $5,125,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $2,562,500.
Really ... $2.5MM is a budget buster ... he spent that on 2-way deals that he's cut (Strus)!
If Brad won't use Poirier, what's the point of paying him now or in the future ... cut bait ... find a team that will take him even if we need to give them back a better pick than we get.
If not Poirier, there's Edwards & Green as well that should be easy to move for picks ...
We need a vet scorer ... preferably someone with length than can play the 2/3/4 positions.
I don't see why Danny can't trade Poirier for a 2nd rd draft pick to another team under the cap. Opens a roster spot for a vet free agent.
He keeps claiming that he can't waive Poirier because of his guaranteed contract:
Vincent Poirier signed a 2 year / $5,125,000 contract with the Boston Celtics, including $5,125,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $2,562,500.
Really ... $2.5MM is a budget buster ... he spent that on 2-way deals that he's cut (Strus)!
If Brad won't use Poirier, what's the point of paying him now or in the future ... cut bait ... find a team that will take him even if we need to give them back a better pick than we get.
If not Poirier, there's Edwards & Green as well that should be easy to move for picks ...
We need a vet scorer ... preferably someone with length than can play the 2/3/4 positions.
Danny made a big blunder. I agree cut bait.... No one wants Poirier it seems.. Not even the French...
Our starting 5 has still only been together 19 games this year. I really believe that with Smart, Kanter, Wanamaker, and ONE other player (it can vary game to game), we can beat everyone but MIL in the East. Hope I'm right
I thought about that too but I also have some concerns for when they are eventually all together. I wonder if they can gel together. The starting 5 will have to play to each other's strengths. I can see Hayward doing a lot of deferring to the others and that lessens his offensive production although he can be productive in other ways. But none of the other starting 5 wings are efficient while deferring.
To me, when everyone is healthy, there just aren't enough shots for everyone and the result is guys begin to take bad shots because they are trying to get into their rhythm-make their impact. Unsurprising to me, we seem to play quite well when one guy is out (Kemba, Brown, Hayward) because there is a better distribution offensively. Sometimes 3 very capable offensive weapons on the court are better than 4.
And then things get really complicated when Smart comes in bombs away because that totally gets any starter remaining on the court further out of his game. When members of the second unit get in the game, any starter still on the court (Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward) MUST be the "GO TO" guy that the offense runs through and that's not what happens a lot. You'll see Brown or Hayward standing around watching Smart dribble out front and then launch an ill-advised 3-pointer that bricks.
I don't see why Danny can't trade Poirier for a 2nd rd draft pick to another team under the cap. Opens a roster spot for a vet free agent.
He keeps claiming that he can't waive Poirier because of his guaranteed contract:
Vincent Poirier signed a 2 year / $5,125,000 contract with the Boston Celtics, including $5,125,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $2,562,500.
Really ... $2.5MM is a budget buster ... he spent that on 2-way deals that he's cut (Strus)!
If Brad won't use Poirier, what's the point of paying him now or in the future ... cut bait ... find a team that will take him even if we need to give them back a better pick than we get.
If not Poirier, there's Edwards & Green as well that should be easy to move for picks ...
We need a vet scorer ... preferably someone with length than can play the 2/3/4 positions.
Not agreeing or disagreeing, just a question. Isn't it too late for this?
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives!!
Our starting 5 has still only been together 19 games this year. I really believe that with Smart, Kanter, Wanamaker, and ONE other player (it can vary game to game), we can beat everyone but MIL in the East. Hope I'm right
I thought about that too but I also have some concerns for when they are eventually all together. I wonder if they can gel together. The starting 5 will have to play to each other's strengths. I can see Hayward doing a lot of deferring to the others and that lessens his offensive production although he can be productive in other ways. But none of the other starting 5 wings are efficient while deferring.
To me, when everyone is healthy, there just aren't enough shots for everyone and the result is guys begin to take bad shots because they are trying to get into their rhythm-make their impact. Unsurprising to me, we seem to play quite well when one guy is out (Kemba, Brown, Hayward) because there is a better distribution offensively. Sometimes 3 very capable offensive weapons on the court are better than 4.
And then things get really complicated when Smart comes in bombs away because that totally gets any starter remaining on the court further out of his game. When members of the second unit get in the game, any starter still on the court (Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward) MUST be the "GO TO" guy that the offense runs through and that's not what happens a lot. You'll see Brown or Hayward standing around watching Smart dribble out front and then launch an ill-advised 3-pointer that bricks.
good to see someone else has been watching!! At times you don't even know Brown is on the floor!
I don't see why Danny can't trade Poirier for a 2nd rd draft pick to another team under the cap. Opens a roster spot for a vet free agent.
He keeps claiming that he can't waive Poirier because of his guaranteed contract:
Really ... $2.5MM is a budget buster ... he spent that on 2-way deals that he's cut (Strus)!
If Brad won't use Poirier, what's the point of paying him now or in the future ... cut bait ... find a team that will take him even if we need to give them back a better pick than we get.
If not Poirier, there's Edwards & Green as well that should be easy to move for picks ...
We need a vet scorer ... preferably someone with length than can play the 2/3/4 positions.
Not agreeing or disagreeing, just a question. Isn't it too late for this?
I thought about that too but I also have some concerns for when they are eventually all together. I wonder if they can gel together. The starting 5 will have to play to each other's strengths. I can see Hayward doing a lot of deferring to the others and that lessens his offensive production although he can be productive in other ways. But none of the other starting 5 wings are efficient while deferring.
To me, when everyone is healthy, there just aren't enough shots for everyone and the result is guys begin to take bad shots because they are trying to get into their rhythm-make their impact. Unsurprising to me, we seem to play quite well when one guy is out (Kemba, Brown, Hayward) because there is a better distribution offensively. Sometimes 3 very capable offensive weapons on the court are better than 4.
And then things get really complicated when Smart comes in bombs away because that totally gets any starter remaining on the court further out of his game. When members of the second unit get in the game, any starter still on the court (Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward) MUST be the "GO TO" guy that the offense runs through and that's not what happens a lot. You'll see Brown or Hayward standing around watching Smart dribble out front and then launch an ill-advised 3-pointer that bricks.
good to see someone else has been watching!! At times you don't even know Brown is on the floor!
The good, bad and ugly: Takeaways from Celtics/Jazz Boston dropped their third game in a row in TD Garden on Friday By Keith P Smith
Photo by Omar Rawlings/Getty Images
We’re going to do something a little different with this version of the Takeaways. Boston’s loss to Utah was their third consecutive home defeat. There was some good in there, but there was also a lot of bad. And there was a whole lot of ugly. With that, here’s the good, the bad and the ugly from Celtics/Jazz. The Good
· Daniel Theis was Boston’s best player on Friday night. He’s massively undersized against Rudy Gobert, but used his quickness and leverage to limit Gobert’s impact. This play shows Theis’ defense and then his ability to get down the floor. He blocks the shot at the rim and as soon as Boston has possession, Theis sprints the floor for the dunk:
· Grant Williams was part of a miserable night from Boston’s reserves (more on that in Bad section), but he was among the least miserable of the bunch. He does a nice job defending scorers off the bounce. Williams is usually able to keep them in front and then contest a shot, as he does here against Bojan Bogdanovic:
· Jayson Tatum’s shooting could be in the Ugly section, as he was just 7-of-19 on the night. After such a hot month in February, you knew Tatum would level off some. But even on a tough night, Tatum is Boston’s best bet to make something happen in late-clock situations:
· For most of the game, the Jazz shot well over 50%. A cold end to the game dropped Utah down to 45% for the night. That’s both bad and ugly. But Boston was able to hang around because the defense had active hands. The Celtics forced 18 turnovers, which helped lead to 18 fastbreak points.
The Bad
· Enes Kanter’s pick and roll defense was as bad as it has been all season long. Boston generally asks him to keep it simple and to play drop coverage. Against Utah, Kanter ended up just sort of hanging out in no-man’s land. Kanter doesn’t do anything remotely helpful on this play and actually gets in the way of his teammates from rotating:
On this play he neither drops, nor helps against Mike Conley:
Brad Stevens pulled the plug really quick, as Kanter only played 4:39. Unfortunately, the damage was done, as Boston was -13 in that short stint.
· For the fifth straight game, the Celtics allowed one player to explode offensively. It was Donovan Mitchell when the team met a week prior in Utah. Then Russell Westbrook and Caris LeVert in back-to-back home losses. Then Collin Sexton joined LeVert in going for a career-high in points in the game at Cleveland. And this loss featured Mike Conley, who has struggled all season, putting up a big night.
It’s hard to put those big nights on any one Boston defender. Because of the way the Celtics switch, no one functions as a primary defender on any one opponent. But that could be part of the problem. Marcus Smart is an All-Defense guy. Maybe use him as a stopper when a single opponent is destroying the defense?
· The bench…sigh. After a big night in Cleveland, Boston’s bench was back to being a disaster. Semi Ojeleye started and was solid, if unspectacular. The rest? Ugh. The Jazz reserves outscored their Celtics counterparts by a 39-13 margin. None of the Boston backups made a positive impact, and most were downright bad.
Following the game, the fans readied the pitchforks and torches to go after Brad Wanamaker. It’s hard to disagree, as he was particularly bad. And that was before two horrible misses as Boston was clinging to life late in the fourth quarter. Many want to see a return to green for Isaiah Thomas. Thomas has made it clear on social media that he’s ready. He’s playoff eligible, since he was waived prior to March 1st. Maybe it’s time to call on IT to give the bench a scoring boost?
The Ugly
· Things stated to go downhill for Boston the minute the reserves hit the floor. The end to the first quarter was awful. The Celtics went up 27-16 with 3:38 to play in the first. Over that final three-and-a-half minutes, Utah outscored Boston 14-2. The Celtics would tie the game early in the second quarter, but the Jazz were rolling by that point. Utah immediately took the lead back and never surrendered it again.
· Boston’s good start was on the back of starting 5-of-6 from behind the arc. Tatum, Smart and Ojeleye all knocked down three-pointers in the first five minutes of the game. Over the next 43 minutes, the Celtics shot 5-for-30 from downtown. And many of those were wide-open looks. Cold shooting nights happen, but this one was particularly frigid.
· Ugliest of all? The Celtics offense without Gordon Hayward, and to a lesser degree Jaylen Brown. Brown has become a terrific scorer, but Hayward is the engine that makes the Boston offense go. He’s the best player at hitting the paint, drawing the defense, causing rotations and getting the ball moving.
With Hayward out, it’s a lot more of straight pick and roll and isolation for the Celtics. Boston has talented players like Jayson Tatum and Kemba Walker who can score in those situations (both rank near the top of the NBA in scoring on such plays), but the team is best when the ball moves.
· Pull up the box score and take a look at the +/- of the bench players for both Utah and Boston. That’s as ugly as it gets.
Actually, don’t pull up the box score. Enjoy your day and move on to Sunday’s game against Oklahoma City. You can thank me later.